Genesis Chapter 1 Discussion Page 14

Dear Glenn

The reference about Jacob and Esau are a refer nice to God's omniscience, that God knew before creation all that would ever happen, all that anyone would think, say, and do.

It is it talking about Jacob and Esau existing prior to conception.

In speaking by about Jeremiah, Gid is speaks my about what He had pre-ordained not about Jeremiah existing prior to conception.

Again, since these verses do not prove a spiritual pre-existence of humans, I am open for you to supply Scripture that clearly teaches this.

Jeremiah,.. " I knew the before you were even born ",.. Jacob I loved esop I hated,.. again before they were born,.. if you read 2nd peter chapter 3 , it explains , all 3 of the earth ages ,.. not 3 different earths , not 3 different Heavens ,.. it's 3 ages ,.. the word in the Greek is eons ,.. meaning ages ,..

Peace

Hi , I certainly never said that !!! I said , we all were alive an well in spiritual body's ,. An after Lucifer's pride , then we were all made to go through this flesh life ,.. to decide weather we love god or satin ( Lucifer) he has many names ,.. of course, We know some chose to not do as God asked ,.. as we read in Jude ,.. Adam an eve , were the farmers God needed ,. Blood line for god himself to come threw , he would never ask us to do anything he would not do himself,.. For as we read in the last few paragraphs of chapter 1 genesis , he made the races, which were fishermen an hunters ,.. an he looked an it was good

My Dear Sweet Friends the Holy Bible was written for Me, to Me, and by Me.

Glenn If you are saying Adam and Eve only had spiritual bodies can you explain Genesis 2:7 formed dust of the ground

and of breath life I.E. lungs breathing air to support oxygenation in blood.

I have never read in Scripture where it states this. I'd appreciate where you read this other than the Genesis passage (as it does not teach that).

Hi Drcletusharrison7777777, Me-oh-my I could not have said it any better. The bible is soo sweet. It is thee Authority in our lives. Like you said, sweeter than honey and the honey comb that ran down Aaron's beard. What words of wisdom you have given us. Can I second it? Thank you for the encouragement, and stay strong knowing that there are others who are experiencing it like you. Be blessed now!

Thank you,.. an God bless you as well

Peace

Hi Gigi ,.. yes , i am saying that. An of course I mean no disrespect to anyone as of there views on learning, or extent of knowledge,.. but yes , we were all alive an well in spiritual body's ,.. until Lucifer ego an eventual downfall,.. an that left our Father in a difficult situation

Peace

Dr. Lee Given that the main subject matter of the bible from Genesis 3:15 to revelation 22:21 is all about

the history of what God had to do to make sure our Saviour was going to be born and accomplish His ministry so

He God could have what He desired originally with Adam and Eve eventually a Family He God being a Father

so to make the statement the old testament laws don't count is at best questionable. The law was given to

educate and protect Gods adopted children from the pagan practices they were surrounded by. Also God all

along was looking for everything to be perfectly right according to all of His creation so that our enemy could

be defeated. So yes the law was temporary Gods purpose, Abraham called Gods purpose, look at the grace in

giving us the comfort of psalms and the instruction of proverbs and everything dealing with Israel. Doesn't

this fit into 2 Timothy 3:16+17 so all scripture is profitable! Also there is still one commandment that fits always

Mathew 22:37-40 on these hang all the law and the prophets its where Adam and Eve started!

I will comment of versus 1-5, the first day of creation, God created a single heaven known as the second heaven where the sun, moon and stars would dwell on the fourth day. The first heaven was created on the second day of creation, the boundaries of the first heaven is from the clouds down to the earth, therefore the second heaven begins from the ending of the first heaven to the beginning of the third heaven. Seeing the earth is a sphere, and the first heaven is also a sphere, we could conclude that the second and third heaven are also spheres, only each encircles the other. The earth was without form, meaning it was under water until the third day of creation, moving like molten lava, without any form at all. Secondly it was void, much like a baby in the womb during the first trimester, knowing eventually the babies legs, feet and toes will grow along with the arms, hands a fingers, but at this stage it is void of those parts. Just as the earth was void of trees, plant life, vegetation and such like. When God created the light, the Apostle Paul taught that light was all that the Lord Jesus preached about during his earthly ministry. 11 Cor. 4:6 The four categories that the Lord Jesus and the Apostle Paul taught are as follows, the gospel, the New testament, the gospel of the kingdom and the new covenant, all of which make up the light God created on the first day of creation. Then God separated the light from the darkness, let us acknowledge, God did not create the darkness, it was there already, but he divided it from the light. Now if the light is known as knowledge according to what the apostle Paul wrote in 2 Cor. 4:6 then darkness is also knowledge using metaphors for both light and darkness. The big question that remains is what could God use to separate bad knowledge from good knowledge? The answer is a world, it appears that God created a world for darkness to dwell in, as we study 2 Cor. 4:4 Satan is the god of the world darkness.

The bible is so sweet and beautiful. sweeter than honey and the honey comb and any food that mankind can offer. the bible is the best and the only authentic eternal book with infallible authority.

the bible is the wisdom of god written down in a book.

i love the bible.

the bible is the word of god!!!

apostle dr. cletus harrison

Are you saying that all humans existed prior to conception as a spiritual being with God? If so, that view is not supported by Scripture nor the teaching of the church through the centuries. Mormons teach this view. To me, it is heresy.

firmament means sky , the heavens or the sky, especially when regarded as a tangible thing

Replying to Mr. Glenn comment, I don't know if you meant to say it is the Spirit never get old or older, and the Spirit never ages. The body do get old, and it does changes, the body houses the spirit, it is the body that changes on the outside, were the Spirit remain the same, Just like Our Creator, He never changes He always remain the same, and I pray to be just like Him on earth until He transition me home with Him, Amen. GOD Bless you. GOD IS LOVE.

Gerald Veira Paul heart was convinced to go to jerusalem to witness to his fellow jews under the law

but that was not what the spirit was saying because he almost lost His life there. Look at Acts 21:4 and Pauls

still headed there and again Agabus who was point blank then Paul says he's ready to die at Jerusalem sounds

good but not the will of God that's why the believers around stopped in verse 14 saying do the will of the lord

the will of the lord was NOT TO GOD TO JERUSALEM. He had to escape with the help of other believers to save

his life. A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still.

People's Bible Notes for Acts 20:22

Commentary

"I go bound in the spirit. Urged by a sense of duty, yet knowing from the premonitions of the Holy Spirit that bonds and afflictions awaited him at Jerusalem."

Acts 21:12-14

12 And when we heard these things, both we, and they of that place, besought him not to go up to Jerusalem.

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Then Paul answered, What mean ye to weep and to break mine heart? for I am ready not to be bound only, but also to die at Jerusalem for the name of the Lord Jesus.

14 And when he would not be persuaded, we ceased, saying, The will of the Lord be done.

28 Crying out, Men of Israel, help: This is the man [Paul] that teacheth all men every where against the people, and the law, and this place: and further brought Greeks also into the temple, and hath polluted this holy place.

Verse 30: Paul is kicked out of Church and later beaten by the Jews.

Acts 21:22 Jesus sends Paul to the Gentiles.

Acts 26:17 Paul's Ministry to the Gentiles

In Acts 20:16 we read, "For Paul had determined to sail by Ephesus, because he would not spend the time in Asia: for he hasted, if it were possible for him, to be at Jerusalem the day of Pentecost." He wanted to be there for Pentecost (Hebrew: Shavuot - or Feast of Weeks). Paul determined to go, nothing stopping him, even despite the warning of the prophet Agabus ( Acts 21:10-14). Paul wanted to meet with the Jerusalem brethren & no doubt to use that celebration time to be a witness for Christ - but knowing that this might well be his last journey & his undoing.

Why did paul go to jerusalem acts ch 20-22???

I just wanted to write you how much I have enjoyed your website here, & that I plan to get many more years of enjoyment out of it.

It was referring to all of us , an himself too !!! In our original spiritual body, try to remember what you looked like between 28 - 32 ,.. an that is pretty much what you look like in that spiritual body,.. an that body of course never gets old, never gets sick ,.. so when he created this age , for us all to go through one time , to decide weather we love God ,.. or Lucifer, it's just that simple !!!

Peace

When the the statement let us make man in our own image is made. Who is the us that's implied?

Some would say the Father the Son and the Holy spirit because it's easy to do. I'm searching for true understanding to have proof and evidence because I don't want to run away from these questions when contending with people while witnessing in the future.

Same word here as in verse 22, "fill the waters and the seas". I think here also; "fill the earth".

Prior to this the "earth" is described as "without form and void", (tohu va bohu), a shapeless mass of confusion and emptiness. Then came the "word of God" who spoke "light". The entrance of Your words gives light ... ( Psalm 119:130)

An expanse, something spread out, as in the visible arch of the sky

when God made Adam and. Eve he said to them be fruitful and multiple on the earth

God said let there be a firmament in the mist of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

The heaven of the sky, when regarded as tangible of thing

Winter pettitt Look very carefully at Gen. 1:6-8 especially what the firmament or expanse is called.

what does firmament mean?

It just says you have to do god's work