John Chapter 12 Discussion Page 2

Ephesians 4:29 Let no corrupt communication proceed out of your mouth, but that which is good to the use of edifying, that it may minister grace unto the hearers. Jesus was not ready for the Gentile world, Jesus had to finish the work on the cross. St. JOHN 12:20-24. The Word is so real ..

Amen.

Jesus knew the heart. Therefore, he must have enlisted Judas as his betrayer. Was Judas more evil then the next guy. All have sinned in this world and sin goes unabated. But every good story needs an antagonist and a hero. Seldom does the hero die, but all must die in real life. Jesus states that if we love this mortal life we will be deprived of our eternity. He is forever transcendent.

" ...: but Lazarus was one of them that sat at the table with Him." Notice the colon before the word 'but'. A colon always denotes something important. To sit at the 'table' with Jesus - is to 'eat' (absorb) His word as we gather together, Heb. 10:25. And, no, they weren't just having an ordinary meal, just a 'social'; not with Jesus present.

Lk. 22:30; 1 Cor. 10:21 - the Lord's table.

Irene: They were just having a meal, they were eating supper, meat potatoes milk wine water whatever. It wasn't church it wasn't communion just supper,they were hungry.

Vs. 1-2; are another prophesy of Acts 2:38; "... raised from the dead ..."; "... sat at table with Him." To sit at table with Jesus is to join together ( Heb. 10:25) and 'eat' of God's Word.

Jer. 5:21; Matt. 3:16; Isa. 6:9; Tit. 1:2

Jn. 12:49 - Jesus was speaking of the Spirit (God) in Him (flesh), just as we are flesh with His spirit in us. Matt. 10:9. God, the spirit, dwelt in Jesus the flesh just as God the spirit dwells in us - yet we are 'one', not three. The only difference is - Jesus was God; we are not God, but we do have His power to use, we are sinful flesh; Jesus had no sin.

"This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein." Does anyone really think that God doesn't know exactly what all's in our hearts with everything we do and say? Whatever kind of show we put forth to make people think about us other than what we are, not even when we eventually deceive ourselves is God ever tricked by a show!

"Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?" Try to picture this scene without screaming in anger and disgust! Here is a sweet humble little family that has just received a mighty miracle of their brother being RAISED FROM THE DEAD! and some small evil disgusting "swamp creature" can only find something ugly to throw on the most wonderful person in the house!

to Donna - nicely said

John 3:14-21 teaches of the salvation message for all mankind. John 12:27-33 speaks of Jesus' bearing of all sin judgement for all mankind and all creation. His soul was not troubled in John 3:14-21, but at the point of knowing the horrible burden He alone had to bear for us was about to manifest, He said "My soul is troubled" in John 12:27. Thank you Lord Jesus that You said, "Nevertheless, not My will but Your will be done." All I can say is what a Profound Savior, Who saves us to utmost!!!!!!! To HIM and HIM alone is all praise due!!!!!!! HIS PRECIOUS BLOOD was sufficient to ALMIGHTY GOD our ABBA. to pay the price of sin's judgement bill...!!!!!!!

VS 20-21, THOSE Greek seek to see Jesus, all true followers of GOD should seek Jesus always, when there is a crusade, members always think it is 4 the sinners and invitees, the truth is seek JESUS afresh.vs 35 walk while ye have LIGHT...vs 35 do u believe Jesus 4 all he has done 4 u and others or u prefer d praise of menvs 43. woe is he that put his trust on man, it will only last for a moment but the favour of God no matter what u are passing thru is forever

reply to trinitarian alert: verse 28, note that Jesus first says that Father glorify thy name,..he required of his father our God to glorify his name,whom Paul says in 1 Thessalonians 1 v 1, 2 corinthians 1 v 3, paul refers to God as the father of our Lord Jesus Christ ...yes the trinity is real it exist

Jesus my Savior, Redeemer, the one that died and was resurrected so that I may obtain everlasting life! Those that are lost in their sins need their stony hearts removed and given a fleshly heart. A stony or Hardened heart Gods Spirit can not enter but a Fleshly heart is soft and can be moved so that the spirit can enter in. Those that are blinded to the truth are that way because of the trickery of Satan and evil doers and false teaching. Darkness represents Death and Light Life, pertaining to Our walk with the truth of the Gospel! God is our only hope in these last days. Open your hearts and eyes that you may see and feel the spirit of God is real and Good!

JESUS EVER "THE MASTER TEACHER SAVIOR " TELLS US IN HIS OWN WORDS.THAT "ALL MEN "PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE MUST LOOK TOO "CALVARY ".FOR THAT 'S THE PLACE WHERE "HE "BLED AND DIED.NEITHER IS THERE "SALVATION " IN ANY OTHER:FOR THERE IS NONE OTHER NAME UNDER "HEAVEN GIVEN AMONG MEN, WHEREBY WE MUST BE "SAVED ". "PERIOD "

It is not everyone that comes to your celebration are there for good. Until you are rejected, you can not be known.

The original text does not have "men " in it. Jesus is talking about the kind of death he is going to die crucifixtion "He said this to show the kind of death he was going to die. John 12:33 " and "draw all to myself ". The word 960 945 957 964 945 962 all might mean 1 individually 2 each, every, any, all, the whole, everyone, all things, everything 3 collectively 4 some of all types. I personally think he is talking about sin judgement - he is drawing all sin judgement onto him, so that his role as sacrificial Lamb is fulfilled.

If I,lited up from the earth,will draw all men to Myself. ...God is telling us that,as we do His will,he will sanctify us and keep us to His Glory. Amen!

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This verse brings out if the wrong kind of glory were too close to our hearts, it could prevent us from appreciating and seeking the enduring glory that Jehovah God is willing to bestow.

Jesus is telling us in vs.25 that our world is filled with sin, and unless we come into the saving knowledge of Christ we cannot have life everlasting.

I like verse 44.

....just like a business man that invest his seed capital to generate more but if he doesn 't, his seed capital just remain the same figure that cannot sustain him.

I am trying to understand the verse. I love the blessing the Lord gives me every day. But hate the ways of the world, and how we treat each other.

The verse speaks of the role of death in the scheme of life.

To ber,s rev. Dollar is a great minister and though I do not speak Greek I believe he is correct. However I believe that translation is holy inspired of all. That add emphasis to the scripture because the bible interpts the bible. All men is what Jesus died for all sinners past, present, and future. The sheep that Jesus spoke of as not being of that flock that he referred to. From those who dies in the great flood of Noah,s time, those in Jesus time, those in our time through the paradise of the millennium end. All men is very powerful meaning all men.

JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD reveals himself as THE LIGHT ,and those past present and future that follow this LIGHT ..will never walk in darkness .. Many tongues and nations all over the world ..worship a GOD ??or call them there GOD?? But THE TRUE GOD HATH GIVEN HIM JESUS A NAME THAT IS ABOVE ALL NAMES THAT AT THE NAME OF JESUS EVERY KNEE SHALL BOW AND TONGUE CONFESS TO THE GLORY OF THE FATHER ..... SO UNLESS YOU HAVE RECEIVED JESUS AS THE SON OF GOD IN WORSHIP YOU HAVE NO RELATIONSHIP WITH THE FATHER ?? FOR HE THAT HATH NOT THE SON HATH NOT THE FATHER?? Many many ONENESS PENTECOSTALS CALL THE FATHER THE SON IN THE FLESH THUS THEY DENY THE DEITY OF THE SON ?? The devil loves to tear down the deity preincarnate CHRIST JESUS!!!

1 Christ is the solution to the every problem in the world, sickness,disease, money, ect! 2 The saviour of our soul, 3 In him we live and move, and have our Bering! 4 without him we can do nothing. 5 He is for the now, and the world to come. I have everlasting life. Therefore I will tell of him to my world.