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Thank you for the question. The bible does teach that every single person who has ever been born into this world will one day stand before God to be judged. There will be a judgment for all believers which is known as the Bema Seat judgment of Christ, and then there will be another judgment called the Great White Throne judgment which comes after the thousand-year reign of Christ, and this judgment will be for all those who have rejected Christ.
I think what throws a lot of people off is the word "all," and it is assumed that everyone (both the wicked and the just) will all stand before God together at the same time. But this is not true. If we examine Revelation Chapter 20 closely, especially Revelation 20:13-14, we can see that these are the wicked who are judged and cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 20:13 says that death and Hades both delivered up the dead that were in them. Right now, there are no believers in Hades. They were released with the Lord's message to them. After Jesus died on the cross for them, He descended into the lower parts of the earth, and all the believers that were in that part of Hades (Abraham's Bosom), they were taken with Christ.
But the non-believers were left there. The only ones in Hades right now are the ones who rejected Christ. And that's where all non-believers go today, until the end of the thousand-year reign of Christ.
So, to answer your question, do I believe Paul was talking to believers only in 2 Corinthians 5:10 when he said all? My answer to that is yes. If you begin at Verse 1 of 2 Corinthians Chapter 5, and read all the way through in context, this can only be referring to believers.
But yes, we will all be judged, either at the Bema Seat judgement of Christ to determine our reward as believers, or later on at the Great White Throne Judgment, only to be judged and cast into the lake of fire, which is literally Hell.
Again, thanks for the question and blessings to you also!
Thank you for asking, this subject is very sensitive to some, and I think you have been on this site long enough to know my understanding, I do not believe in that doctrine. I love everyone on this site, and I do not want to offend anyone. This is for our conscience's sake, that you must study for your understanding. Sorry if this is not the answer you were looking for.
In love you must study with no preconceived ideas and pray the Holy Spirit show you the truth.
God bless,
RLW
As far as this posting goes why do you say: "That is the Bema seat. But please know that this judgement (Bema Seat of Christ) is for believers only. It's not the judgment of heaven and hell. We (those who belong to Christ) are already assured of heaven in Christ. But we will be judged, and that judgment is described for us in 1 Corinthians Chapter 3."
Since in 2 Corinthians 5:10 and Romans 14:10 it says "all" and "everyone" do you believe Paul was just talking about believers because he was talking to the Corinth and Roman churches?
God Bless :)
Yes, I believe that can be a great discussion.
I have so busy this week.
It would do well to get an concordance and see how Nakedness is often used in the Bible, in declares a sense of vulnerability.
Clothing often has spiritual significance as well.
In many places in the Bible clothing has symbolized the need to cover our sin and shame.
Nakedness and to be clothed is often used symbolically in scripture.
I will continue in a day or two.
God bless
May I ask what do you believe about the Trinity? God Bless :)
The post you placed on Nakedness and the difference between Adam and Christ. Was this to someone, you said more to come. I know you are busy, but this could be a good discussion for all to learn.
God bless,
RLW
In the parable it is implied that the reward that the vineyard laborers received is the salvation of their souls. Nomatter when one believes in Christ, as a kid (the first hour) or as an old man (the twelveth hour) the reward is still the same, the Kingdom of God. If one believes in an early age then they have time to do a lot of work for God. If one believes as an old man, sometimes there is no time nor the abilitiy and energy to do anything. Remember the thief who was crucified next to Jesus? He wasn't able to do nothing for God, he was dying in a few hours time. But he was still saved.
Next, we must kow that the reward we will receive is not a result of our work. It is not a debt of God to us for our work for Him but it is a gift from Him. No matter how hard or for how long we work for God, it still is a gift from Him. There is no amount of work that we can do for God and offer to Him that can buy our salvation. Nomatter how much we work for Him and how much we try to be good men, we are still sinners and we deserve punishment, hell. And because God knows that, He offers us an escape door, which is our faith to Jesus. Which means that Jesus as a representative of all mankind was punished with death in our position, instead of us, although He wasn't a sinner Himself. So now everybody who accepts His sacrifice is free of punishment.
Couldn't God just forgive somebody without punishing him? No. He can forgive but still people had to be punished. God can not accept sinners in Heaven. We have to be holy. And how do clean ourselves and become holy? With Jesus blood, sacrifice. Example, if one goes to a court of justice because he stole something the judge may forgive him for doing so, because he understands the reasons he stole, but he also has to follow the law and imprison him. In our case Jesus was imprisoned instead of us. So we are now FREE.
I hope I haven't confused you, maybe others can make it clearer. GBU
Have you talked with your doctor about these symptoms. It seems like they may indicate depression, so perhaps the doctor can help with treatments for that if it is so.
I will continue to pray for you.
"And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them." God sent the word before the worlds began and it is in the hour of crisis takes shape as pillars. These are witness whom the prophets have invoked. "Give ear, O ye heavens, and I will speak; and hear, O earth, the words of my mouth."(De.32:1) They are two worlds framed by the word of God. So like the Spiritual Rock that followed the Israelites denote the presence of God.
These have their work as well to distinguish what was holy and what was not. "And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to these: so that the one came not near the other all the night." (v.20) On what basis they did it. The everlasting covenant spells out the division of light from darkness. "And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness./And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night."(Ge.1:4-5). "So that the one came not the other all the night," is according to the covenant.
Later when God refused to go with them,"And I will send an angel before thee; and I will drive out the Canaanite, the Amorite, and the Hittite, and the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite:/Unto a land flowing with milk and honey: for I will not go up in the midst of thee."He nevertheless would send his angel, " I sware unto Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, saying, Unto thy seed will I give it,"(Ex.33:1-3). This angel signifies the advent of his Son. "And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth."( Luke 1:26) Thus when Gabriel visits Mary we know that God was true to his word. " Their wandering in the wilderness is a dry run and a kangaroo event for the end times.
Thank you, you and I and others on this site tell our understanding in love for each other as brothers and sisters whether we agree or not. There is no fear, for the things I have seen and have faced I left fear behind me years ago. We have a Savior greater than anything in this world that we may encounter, 1 John 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world. I can testify we can trust this verse; Jesus is greater than Satan, fallen angels, demons, or any evil we may face.
Like James wrote, "For what is your life? It is even a vapour, that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away." But after this life is over, regardless of the amount of time, to us it will only be a blink in time until we will be resurrected, and we know who we will be with.
God bless,
RLW
Hear, O Israel: The LORD, our God, is one LORD ( Deut 6:4). In whom dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily ( Col 2:9). His name (Jesus) shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The Mighty God, The Everlasting Father, and The Prince of Peace ( Isaiah 9:6). We are made in God's image ( Gen 1:27), and Paul's prayer is that our whole spirit, soul, and body be preserved blameless until the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ ( 1 Thess 5:23).
"And I will make of thee a great nation."
Over the golden calf incident God holds out this promise to him. God did not make this in jest neither did he pronounce his decision over the nation of Israel,"Therefore now go, lead the people unto the place of which I have spoken unto thee: behold, mine Angel shall go before thee: nevertheless in the day when I visit I will visit their sin upon them."(Ex.32:34) God did visit them when God let them all perish in the wilderness save the two. " Doubtless ye shall not come into the land, concerning which I sware to make you dwell therein, save Caleb the son of Jephunneh, and Joshua the son of Nun."(Nu.14:30) Another change in their relationship between God and Israel was that his Angel or the presence, typified by the pillar of fire and of cloud would take over. "for I will not go up in the midst of thee; for thou art a stiffnecked people: lest I consume thee in the way.:(Ex.33:3)
God promised Moses the pre-eminence and he submitted himself as the Intercessor which he refused. "Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written."(Ex.32-32). God had already established the everlasting covenant where Jesus Christ the Word become flesh was the slain Lamb before the worlds began and Moses could be only 'After our likeness.'. It is thus Moses is set down as the double for his Son. When God declares that he was sanctified over the Meribah incident it only meant the nation. His only begotten Son represents the whole world. This difference is brought out in the Tabernacle of the congregation. (Ex.33:7) "And called it the Tabernacle of the congregation. And it came to pass, that every one which sought the Lord went out unto the tabernacle of the congregation, which was without the camp." Without the camp ties up with He.13:12-13) Volume of a believer opens to it and they serve as witness to what we are really. Ps.40:9
Pray , every day give thanks and ASK , God wants us to ask Him for help . When we do this we are acknowledging Him , His love , power and mercy .
I thank Him daily for : sustaining and supporting me , physically , mentally , emotionally and spiritually , and I ask Him to please continue to do so . I confess that I can do nothing without Him and I thank Him for everything that He does for me every day . Do this regularly , from the heart . He is waiting for you to talk to Him .
The answers to all your questions are there , in the Bible but , you have to be willing to learn and this takes time and effort . I hope you will make both because , there is nothing better than to draw a bit closer to you Heavenly Father and His Son . Make the effort , if you consider yourself to be a Christian you are supposed to understand what it is you believe in in case someone asks you , then you might have the opportunity to help someone else draw closer to our Creator . May God bless your efforts .
Moses, God and the Rock form the triad for man. "Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel."(Ex.17:6) The word of God is what in the first place set the rock feed the people. God would bless them water. "The Rock was Christ . Action of Moses mattered: the chastisement of our peace was laid on Jesus Christ."((Is.53:5). Similarly his action at Meribah, "Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink."( Nu. 20:8)
"This is the water of Meribah; because the children of Israel strove with theLord, and he was sanctified in them." (20:13). How was God sanctified among the Israelites on the second occasion? Chastisement of their peace was laid on Moses. "And theLordspake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them."(v.12) The Spirit sets a double knot on those who stand as the double for Jesus Christ. Their life and actions hold as individuals as well as in relation to the Son.
He made him ride on the high places of the earth, that he might eat the increase of the fields; and he made him to suck honey out of the rock, and oil out of the flinty rock;/Butter of kine, and milk of sheep, with fat of lambs, and rams of the breed of Bashan, and goats, with the fat of kidneys of wheat; and thou didst drink the pure blood of the grape."
Christ is the Rock. St Paul qualifies him as the Spiritual Rock.(32:4;1 Co.10:4). Moses is referring to a nation for which Jacob is but a name.Whether one or a nation God considers man for His blessing in his Son, So his body formed out of dust from the ground is adequate; in his Son we have God make him ride high places. He is like the tree planted by the waters. He makes him eat the increase of the field and drink 'the pure blood of the grape.' This what fills up the volume of man. The blessings God has promised to man is from the fulness of God so honey and oil denote several gradations of his blessing. These are to be spiritually understood and explained so spiritually we compare these hold true whether it is applied to one or a nation.
Christ as the Rock presents the doctrine of God emblem of which forms the backdrop for his beatitudes.What he presents as the Word become flesh is "My doctrine shall drop as the rain" (32:2). The Spirit presents Moses as a double for his Son. He also lays down a rule how we interpret passages in the Bible. We shall consider his actions. "And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ." Moses God and the Rock form the triad for man. "Behold, I will stand before thee there upon the rock in Horeb; and thou shalt smite the rock, and there shall come water out of it, that the people may drink. And Moses did so in the sight of the elders of Israel."(Ex.17:6) The word of God is what set the rock fed the people. "The chastisement of our peace was laid on Jesus Christ."
(15) Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good?
(16) So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen.
Jesus wasn't treated fairly on earth either. I don't fully understand why He had to be tortured and die to atone for sins-can't God forgive without death or blood required? I don't know the origin of this rule or why it must be this way.
I would say that God is very fair, for He is a righteous and just God. It is the world that is not fair. It is humanity itself that's not fair.
Ezekiel 18:25, "Yet you say, "The way of the Lord is not fair." Hear now, O house of Israel, is it not my way which is fair, and your ways which are not fair?"
There were those in the house of Israel who were questioning the fairness of God. God's response was that His ways are completely fair, and that they were the ones who were unfair.
Leviticus 19:15 would show how God values fairness. It says, "Do not pervert justice; do not show favoritism to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly."
The very nature of God is that He is fair and just. There are several places in the bible that show how fair God is. Here are just a few places in scripture that show the fairness of God: Matthew 20:16, Romans 2:11, 1 Peter 1:17.
Would you be able to share why you feel God does not put much value on fairness? Also, what is your take on the parable of the talents?
Blessings!
As mentioned earlier, that 'Trinity' can indeed be misinterpreted as 'three gods', but with explanation, that difficulty should be sorted out, though still beyond our full comprehension. I always wonder about those who reject God sending forth His Son from within Himself (God's Word made flesh), don't seem to have a problem (at least from what I have gathered) about God sending out His Spirit to move among men & to indwell every true believer. If I had a problem about accepting Christ's Deity, then I certainly would have a problem with the Spirit's Omnipresence, with God in Heaven becoming deficient or non-existent as a result of these departures from His Person.
But people will generally use their own intellect & understanding of the Scriptures to form their beliefs, and so it becomes a case of just presenting your understanding with supporting Scriptures & just leave it there. Only the Lord can sort us out in these things in us, when human limits are reached. Blessings.
Luke 11:38 - And when the Pharisee saw it, he marvelled that he had not first washed before dinner.
This is another place in scripture where our English text doesn't give us the true meaning. This word washed is not like telling our kids to go in and wash your hands before dinner because you've been playing outside and you are all dirty.
This word washed is the word BAPTIDZO. This is a religious ceremony. He didn't go through the "ritual" of baptizing His hands before He sat down to eat so he could be ceremonially clean.
Luke 11:42 - But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
Again, the word woe, OUAI in Greek, literally means destruction.
Luke 12:9 - But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God.
I share this because I've heard this twisted before and some will say that if you don't confess Christ publicly that you are denying Him. That is not what it says!
This is important to understand. The word "deny," ARNEOMAI means to reject. The early church believers were put in a position where they either had to confess that Jesus is Lord or that Caesar is lord.
And by doing that, they would be denying that Jesus is Lord. So, in order for this to be true, one of two things has to happen. You have to confess Jesus or you have to deny Him, reject Him!
Luke 12:11 - And when they bring you unto the synagogues, and unto magistrates, and powers, take ye no thought how or what thing ye shall answer, or what ye shall say:
In the phrase, "take no thought," the word "thought" is the word MERIMNA. That is Satan's only weapon against a believer. MERIMNA has to do with the occupation of the attention of the mind. Not the occupation of the mind, but the occupation of the attention of the mind.
Luke 11:14 - And he was casting out a devil, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the devil was gone out, the dumb spake; and the people wondered.
And he was casting out a demon, (The word devil is the word demon) in the Greek text.
Luke 11:15 - But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils.
Now, for this word Beelzebub. English translations use the term Beelzebub, the emphasis being on the last three letters "bub." The Greek texts use the word Beelzebul, "bul." It does make a difference.
Why does the English text use Beelzebub? It is because in the Old Testament, he was called Beelzebub, and in the New Testament he is called Beelzebul. So, the name changed and there are two different meanings.
Beelzebub means "lord of the fly." That is Beelzebub. Beelzebul is even worse. It means "the lord of the manure pile." These were the Phoenician gods and they had a god, small "g" for everything, even flies.
There was lord of the flies, and there was a god overseeing the manure pile, and the Jews used to call the Philistines' god the lord of the fly, the lord of the manure pile in a demeaning way.
So, when they approached Jesus, they said He cast out demons through Beelzebub who is the head of the demons. Not just any demon, but they said that He is the chief of the devils.
And so that's what Beelzebub and Beelzebul mean. In our English text, it has to do with lord of the flies, but the Greek word is lord of the manure pile.
Luke 11:33 - No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.
Every time in the King James text, when you see the word "candle" and "candlestick," it is literally lamp and lamp stand.
Literal translation: No man, when he hath lighted a lamp, puts it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a lamp stand, so that they can see when they come in the house.
Luke 10:41 - And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
Careful is the word for anxiety. It is the word MERIMNA which I have mentioned before. It means to have the attention of your mind occupied with something. It's the word for worry and anxiety.
It is Satan's only weapon against a believer in Christ. Once you are saved, you belong to Christ. The second part of Christianity, after salvation, is the renewing of the mind, and growing in the grace and knowledge of Jesus Christ. Satan can't take your soul, so he gets you distracted and occupied to take you away from the word, so that the Lord can't heal and mend from the damage of sin.
And then troubled (TURBADZO) means turmoil, and it represents an outward expression of an inward thought. It is great how the Greek gives us a better picture of what's taking place in this verse.
Luke 11:3 - Give us day by day our daily bread.
The Greek word for "daily" is the word "necessary." The emphasis is that I am praying for my needs today. Not tomorrow or the next day.
The daily bread, which is necessary for today, whatever my sustenance is, today I pray that God will provide for that. I have to trust that whatever His provision is, that is His will for my life. I might not get to eat at In and Out Burger for lunch today like I would like to. It might not work out that way, but I'm trusting in the Lord to provide for my needs.
Luke 11:8 - I say unto you, Though he will not rise and give him, because he is his friend, yet because of his importunity he will rise and give him as many as he needeth.
This word importunity in the Greek means shameless persistence. You may have only heard the word persistence in these teachings, but this is shameless persistence. No shame in this man and he is going to keep pounding on that door until he rises and gives him as many as he needs.
Luke 10:39 - And she had a sister called Mary, which also sat at Jesus' feet, and heard his word.
The word sat and hearing in the Greek denotes that it was a continuous habit of her to do. It is kind of interesting to see the characteristics of people? She loved to sit at the feet of Jesus and hear His word.
Luke 10:40 - But Martha was cumbered about much serving, and came to him, and said, Lord, dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone? bid her therefore that she help me.
This is great. I love to study about Martha. The word "cumbered" is one of three important words in this text.
First word (Cumbered), it is a fishing term that means having the net pulled up around you as if you were a fish in the sea and you are caught in the net. You are caught in the net and the net is being pulled up around you.
Now, about "much serving," because Jesus is in her house and He is teaching, and she's the only one in the kitchen serving. So, you can see her dilemma here.
And she came to Him, and in the Greek text it means this; and I think this is great, poor Martha! At least we don't have her last name so we can't slander her too much.
Reading it from the Greek text, it says she burst into the room and stood over Him. And she says, Lord, do you not care that my sister has left me alone to serve?
Now, apparently the Lord nodded yes because she says, well then bid her to help me "if you care." Obviously, all this time she's been in the kitchen "stewing!" So, tell her to help me!
Luke 10:4 - Carry neither purse, nor scrip, nor shoes: and salute no man by the way.
This word "purse" is not we understand a purse to be today. Back in those days, this was a small pouch that they carried money in. It was a money bag.
Luke 10:5 - And into whatsoever house ye enter, first say, Peace be to this house.
That is a Hebraism that means when you come into a house or into a city, you're asking for SHALOM, is there a son of peace here? Meaning, are you receptive to Messiah?
If they are rejecting the message they have about Jesus Christ as Messiah, then they are told, may your peace return to you, and you leave that house. It has to be a house that is going to be at peace with Christ, and at peace with them, for them to stay.
Luke 10:18 - And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
And Jesus said unto them, notice the literal translation, I was beholding Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
The verb "beheld" is where we get our English word theater from, THEAOMAI. And it's in the Imperfect Tense which means continuous action in the past.
He says I was continuously viewing Satan as lightening falling from heaven. The Lord is basically saying I have started viewing the beginning of the fall Satan.
Luke 10:21 - In that hour Jesus rejoiced in spirit, and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
These are the NAPIOS, the little babies. These are newborn babes. Even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight.
Luke 10:33 - But a certain Samaritan, as he journeyed, came where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him,
So, he says a Samarian comes down where he was: and when he saw him, he had compassion on him. This is the SPLUNKNOSE that I had mentioned before, the down deep compassion for people.
We read about this in 2 Corinthians 5:10. What you are referring to is the Bema Seat of Christ. It is called the judgment seat of Christ in this verse, and the Greek word is BEMATOS, or BEMA.
2 Corinthians 5:10 says that we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ. That is what is called the Bema seat. This is not the Great White Throne Judgment where non-believers will be judged.
We are also told in 1 Corinthians Chapter 3, as well as Romans 14:10 "Why do you judge your brother, or why do you set at nought your brother? For we shall all stand before the judgment seat (the Bema seat) of Christ."
The Bema seat was the platform that some of the Roman officials would sit on as they were meting out judgment. But it's more known for the stand in which you come to at the Olympic games after you run your race to get your prize.
We see in the Olympics, the first, second, and third place athletes, they get up on this stand and they give them a medal. And they stand up there and play the anthem of the person that came in first place.
That is the Bema seat. But please know that this judgement (Bema Seat of Christ) is for believers only. It's not the judgment of heaven and hell. We (those who belong to Christ) are already assured of heaven in Christ. But we will be judged, and that judgment is described for us in 1 Corinthians Chapter 3.
There will be a type of fire that we will pass through and that which is not of Christ will burn, and whatever is left is the reward. Again, what emphasis do you put on the human? Only the things of Christ will last!
I hope this helps, God Bless!!!
I'm having questions about fairness. Fairness is a virtue of the world, but not of God? Talents parable shows we should not compare and be satisfied with what we are given (Not focus on inequity). Does anyone here understand why God does not put much value on fairness?
Yes I am still here, I feel many here as family.
God bless,
RLW