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Part 4.
If we say you don't know why or how God chooses his elect, how can you say "you do believe that our election is not because God looked forward in history to see that we would choose to believe these things on our own or not?
Was not he using foreknowledge to choose you before the foundation of the world?
He knew you would sin right? yes!
When did he find that out?
When did he decide to send you a savior?
We know that God operates by his foreknowledge just by examining "When" Christ was ordained to be the substitute Lamb of God! BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD! 1 Peter 1:19-20.
Also, when were we chosen? Before the foundation of the world! Ephesians 1:4.
There was a plan of redemption set forth before the curse was pronounce on the Earth and before the World began!
Apparently God knew Adam would sin.
You mentioned "Paul speaks clearly in Romans that no one is righteous or seeks God or can please God, being dead in sin and blind to the gospel of grace.
Gigi Paul is referencing the Un generated man as he stands without the Holy Spirit and him refusing the Life and light of the new birth which reveals the things of God.
This speaks of how he stands today as well as back then.
Paul is not making reference to the condition of man determining on when and how God made his Choice.
This is reward and Judgment which means there's conditions needed met and man couldn't meet those requirements!
Man had to believe and receive Christ.
The whosoever is an invitation to the world!
This is how it reads.
FOR GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
See Part 5
Pt. 2
The only way any of us can enter into a relationship with God is because of His grace toward us. Beginning in Eden when Adam and Eve sinned God restored them to fellowship with Him by His free grace. He could have killed the first humans right then for their disobedience. But rather than destroy them, He chose to make a way for them to be right with Him.
God is the instigator of grace, and it is from Him that all other aspects of grace flows.
God extends grace to those He elected while we all were His enemies ( Romans 5:10) by regeneration wrought by the Spirit.
He gives us forgiveness ( Hebrews 8:12; Ephesians 1:7), reconciliation ( Colossians 1:19-20), abundant life ( John 10:10), eternal treasure ( Luke 12:33), His Holy Spirit ( Luke 11:13), and a place in heaven with Him some day ( John 3:16-18) when we are called by the gospel and its offer and place our faith in Jesus and His work on our behalf.
Grace is God giving the greatest treasure to the least deserving-which is every one of us whom He has brought to faith and placed us in Christ. This redemption is forever and the greatest treasure is Christ Himself.
"Let us then with confidence draw near to the throne of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need." ( Hebrews 4:16)
"But He gives more grace. Therefore He says: "God resists the proud, But gives grace to the humble." ( James 4:6)
We find the term "grace" throughout the Bible as a gift and action of God. But what is God's grace, and how does it relate to us?
We experience God's grace because God is gracious. In Exodus 34:6, when God shows himself to Moses, we read, "The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness." Gracious is used here as an adjective describing God. It is one of His attributes, describing who He is.
2 Corinthians 1:17 - When I therefore was thus minded, did I use lightness? or the things that I purpose, do I purpose according to the flesh, that with me there should be yea yea, and nay nay?
When I therefore was thus minded, or intentions, did I use lightness? It literally means to waffle. Did I kind of say "Yea, I might do that, or I might not, kind of waffling between decisions."
2 Corinthians 1:18 - But as God is true, our word toward you was not yea and nay.
But as God is true, and that's the word faithful in the Greek, our word toward you was not yes and no.
2 Corinthians 1:22 - Who hath also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts.
Who hath also sealed us (the protective element around our spirit), and has given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts. The word earnest means guarantee. In fact, the word guarantee, ARRABON in Greek, the word now in modern Greek means engagement ring, a pledge so to speak. So, what God has done is He has sealed us, and He has given us His Spirit as a guarantee or pledge in our hearts that we belong to Him, and that He's coming for us.
He made similar remarks in Ephesians 1:13-14. He said in whom you also trusted (meaning Christ), after that you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, in whom also after that you believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, which is the earnest, and again that's ARRABON, of the guarantee of our inheritance, until the redemption of the purchased possession unto the praise of His glory.
He has purchased us. He just hasn't come to pick us up yet. But the giving of His Spirit to us is the guarantee that He is coming for us. And we find that as we continue to go through the scriptures, it is the guarantee of God that we belong to Him. So, Paul says this is our confession, God is the one. He establishes us. He anoints us for what He wants us to do. He seals us. And He gives us His Holy Spirit.
Ephesians 1:3-5 "Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,"
2 Peter 3:3-13 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation. For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water: Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men. But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up. Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness,Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth"
The Bible teaches that in the beginning man was created in the image and likeness of God. God immediately placed man in a beautiful garden and told him that he was free to eat the fruit of every tree in the garden saving for the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. God warned him that in the day he ate of the fruit of that tree, he would surely die. ( Genesis 2:15-17)
Man failed the test and became spiritually dead, and was driven from the presence of God. ( Genesis 3:24) That condition continues right to the present day. Mankind is by nature in rebellion against his creator and unless God himself intervenes to save him, he will die in his sins. Sin is the trangression of the law, and the wages of sin is death. The Bible is God's lawbook.
The only antidote, the only remedy, is if God himself provides a substitute, a stand-in, someone who is without sin and qualified to bear the penalty for sin in place of man and fully satisfy the demands of God's law. That someone is the Lord Jesus Christ, God Himself, who gave his life in order that God's elect might have the gift of eternal life.
There is absolutely nothing that natural man can do to contribute to or guarantee his salvation. Salvation is 100% the work of God according to God's foreordained elective program and according to God's own timetable. The churches regardless of denomination have set up a Do-It-Yourself salvation plan by which they teach that man can make some contribution to his salvation. The Bible insists that salvation is 100% the work of God and that God sovereignly chose those whom he would save before the foundation of the world. Man can not contribute one iota to or effect his salvation in any way. He is entirely at the mercy of God. Only God can save him. No church, no pastor, no evangelist, no priest, can guarantee anyone's salvation.
Ephesians 1:1-5
More in part 4
The true gospel has to do with the primary problem facing mankind, the wages of sin, which is death, and the penalty demanded by the law of God, which is the second death, eternal damnation, eternal destruction. God sent his only begotten Son, Jesus Christ, into the world to save sinners. Christ, who is eternal God in every sense of the word, and who was without sin, was laden with the sins of all the elect who were given to him by the Father before the foundation of the world, which had nothing to do with their works. Christ paid the FULL PENALTY demanded by the LAW OF GOD on behalf of the elect, and ONLY the elect, who are just a remnant, a tiny part of the whole.
Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
Ephesians 1:3-11 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
Continued in Part 3
John 6:65 And he said, Therefore said I unto you, that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father.
Ephesians 1:3-12
Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ: According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence; Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him: In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will: That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Your post has attracted a lot of comments.
Do not be confused.
Trust YAH/GOD [ Proverbs 3:5-6] and go to HIS Word and let it lead you and guide you.
HE and HE alone IS the Great Physician [ Isaiah 53:5 & Psalm 103:3] although HE has HIS representatives on the earth, they are in the vast minority because as it is written satan has deceived the "whole" world [ Revelation 12:9]
Pharmakeia [pharmaceuticals] by its very definition in the Greek means witchcraft. [ pharmakea, far-mak-i'-ah; from G5332; medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):-sorcery, witchcraft.]
So be very discerning and ALWAYS ask the HOLY SPIRIT OF YAH for Wisdom [ James 1:5] that you may understand HIS Word to sift out truth from fiction or truth from half truths, that HE may guide your feet to [ Psalm 119:105] where HE may want you to go and to whom, if any, that HE may want you to go to.
Also that most of all, HE would teach you about the power and authority that HE has placed in you, even from the foundation of the world [ Ephesians 1:4-6]; and which HE reinforced in the forming of the template [Adam] of material man [ Genesis 1:26 ] when HE [ELOHIM- I.E. THE PLURALITY OF HIMSELF] said Let US make man in our own image and likeness; and again when YESHUA/JESUS said that you can do all that HE does and even more [ John 14:12]
May YAH continue to Keep you. In YESHUA MIGHTY NAME.AMEN.
Loretta, I am sorry for the confusion but I initially placed part B in the wrong place.
HERE IT IS NOW:
PART B
You may have noticed that something happens before his demons abuse you. There is either a scent / smell/ noise, sound, a sudden odd taste in your mouth, a flutter against your skin etc. They do this to announce themselves and also to get permission from you. When you say nothing because you do not know they do not care. They see your silence as permission.
So the second you hear or smell or taste or feel; speak out loud; THE LORD YESHUA REBUKES you with fire. Then immediately begin to read the bible verses that you wrote. Do this in your mind. Keep it up for a good 30 minutes. I promise you the neighbor is going to run out of his house. But you don't stop.
You need weaponry. Remind yourself what the full armor is [ Ephesians 6:10-18]
So go to Youtube and play this [Prayers that Route Demons] 24/7 . Find the one with the written prayers and say it along with the video. [Buy the book if you can] Do this every day. Do not stop. People who are committed to evil do not stop. They are dedicated.
Choose the time to play it aloud. Midnight is a great time as this is the time when wicked people start their nonsense. But at sundown or sunrise is good also as these are time of change and new beginnings. I am suggesting these times because these are 3 of the 7 original prayer watches of the Hebrews.[ Mark 13:35]
In the meantime. Go through your house and remove every occult item from your house including crosses, virgin marys [ Exodus 20:4] masks; things that you may have picked up on holidays made in heathen nations and dedicated to heathen gods etc . Confess for having these items in your home.
Dedicate your space to YAH/GOD. How does that look? Imagine HIM to be there , as HE actually is there with you [ Ephesians 1:22]. Do not do, or say anything in your space that would displease HIM. Crazy music, sexually explicit, violence , wicked movies etc
You may have noticed that something happens before his demons abuse you. There is either a scent / smell/ noise, sound, a sudden odd taste in your mouth, a flutter against your skin etc. They do this to announce themselves and also to get permission from you. When you say nothing because you do not know they do not care. They see your silence as permission.
So the second you hear or smell or taste or feel; speak out loud; THE LORD YESHUA REBUKES you with fire. Then immediately begin to read the bible verses that you wrote. Do this in your mind. Keep it up for a good 30 minutes. I promise you the neighbor is going to run out of his house. But you don't stop.
You need weaponry. Remind yourself what the full armor is [ Ephesians 6:10-18]
So go to Youtube and play this [Prayers that Route Demons] 24/7 . Find the one with the written prayers and say it along with the video. [Buy the book if you can] Do this every day. Do not stop. People who are committed to evil do not stop. They are dedicated.
Choose the time to play it aloud. Midnight is a great time as this is the time when wicked people start their nonsense. But at sundown or sunrise is good also as these are time of change and new beginnings. I am suggesting these times because these are 3 of the 7 original prayer watches of the Hebrews.[ Mark 13:35]
In the meantime. Go through your house and remove every occult item from your house including crosses, virgin marys [ Exodus 20:4] masks; things that you may have picked up on holidays made in heathen nations and dedicated to heathen gods etc . Confess for having these items in your home.
Dedicate your space to YAH/GOD. How does that look? Imagine HIM to be there , as HE actually is there with you [ Ephesians 1:22]. Do not do, or say anything in your space that would displease HIM. Crazy music, sexually explicit, violence , wicked movies etc change your environment...
PART A:
Loretta, As challenging as it is YAH/GOD is well able [ Daniel 3:17]. Also you were born for a time like this [ Esther 4:14 ]so the ability to conquer this in YESHUA/ JESUS Name has been placed in you from even before the foundation of the world [ Ephesians 1:4].
You are at war. The first thing you need to do is:- develop a warrior's mindset. A warrior in YESHUA knows that YAH said HE would fight for you and you will hold your peace. [ Exodus 14:14].that the battle is HIS [ 2 Chronicles 20:17] that HE is a man of war [ Exodus 15:3] That HE has given you the power to trample on snakes and scorpions and all the power of the enemy and nothing in no way can hurt you [ Luke 10:19] That the battle has already been won [ Colossians 2:15] When you speak HIS Word you are only reinforcing the victory.
Be obedient as disobedience is witchcraft [ 1 Samuel 15:23]. It gives the devil legal rights. So if YAH/GOD has told you to do something, do it. At least 50 % of your problems would cease because YAH/GOD /would back you up when you are obedient to HIS Will.
The neighbor has studied you and tried you to see who you are and what he can get away with. As he studied you and has a 'file' on you; you now need to study him and create a file on him. And regarding the things you discover, take every thing you find out about him to YAH in prayer. Always ask YAH/GOD to "Uproot the confidence of the wicked []
Stop the demon neighbor's actions with prayers. For example he knows when you are going to bathe and he abuses you. Prepare for him. He expects you to do the normal and he expects to get away with it. So find several right bible verses. Write them out in a book.
Brother, what you do is appreciated, you inspire study. I hope you do not mind this is my understanding, you say Jesus is not sitting on the right of God on His throne, that is an idiom, this means it is saying this is the person that has authority and power, and I agree but was given authority and power, but not with we will not see Jesus, Revelation 21:22. If we also read Ephesians 1:17-23 along with Acts 5:31 it says God exalted Jesus, exalted, the Greek word hupsoo means to lift or raise up, to exalt, raise high.
Ephesians 1:20-21, God raised Jesus and set Him; the Greek word kathizo means make to sit; I set, appoint a physical position of the power of the throne, that is God's divine power and authority over all of creation. After Jesus was raised from the dead, Psalm 8:6 Philippians 2:9-10. This will be until all enemies are under His feet, 1 Corinthians 15:24-28. The throne can also mean sharing in honor and glory by overcoming as we see in Revelation 3:21.
Jesus has been given this position, we know God placed Jesus above all in heaven and earth and under the earth Ephesians 1:19-21. Jesus was raised in a glorified body, and we will be raised in a body as His, Philippians 3:21. Jesus ascended and is in heaven in that glorified body, Acts 1:10 and when He returns it will be in that same glorified body, Revelation 19.
The other words that throw light on this are Matthew 28:18 and John 13:3, given the Greek word didomi which means to give, to give something to someone, to bestow a gift, to appoint to an office, to supply, furnish necessary things. Something given to you that you did not have before it was given like salvation and eternal life is given, godliness, 2 Peter 1:3-8.
We also have Matthew 11:27 "All things are delivered unto me of my Father" delivered the Greek word paradidomi a close word to didomi properly to give, hand over, to deliver over with a sense of close personal involvement.
Thank you and God bless,
RLW
Part 1
Revelation 12:1-5 A wonder in heaven a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet. Genesis 37:9-10 With Joseph is the 12 stars, the Sun, the moon, Jacob, and the mother represent Israel, the same woman all through this chapter to verse 17.
This is before the birth of the man-child, we see this woman represents Israel and the righteousness of the ancient fathers and prophets who labored through the years, and persecutions, as they groaned and longed for the promised Messiah, the promised seed of Abraham. The righteous physical Israel longing in pain for their coming Messiah represents the Woman in birth pain, Isaiah 26:17-19 Micah 4:9-10.
Another wonder in heaven is the red dragon/Satan who cast a third of the stars/angels to the earth this will happen in the future. The dragon stood before the woman to devour the child. Satan through Herod and the Roman empire tried to kill Jesus as soon as He was born, Matthew 2:13-16. Israel birthed the Messiah/Jesus through the tribe of Judah who will rule the nations with a rod of iron Revelation 2:27 Revelation 19:15.
After Jesus's resurrection, He was caught up to God and his throne, Ephesians 1:20-21. Verse 6 is what the woman will do after Satan and his angels are cast down to this earth, for 1260 days we see the same event in verse 14 a time and times and half a time, this is 3.5 years to be in the future. God will preserve a remnant and give a place of special divine protection for His people during these 3.5 years,
See part 2
From then until today around 6000 years have passed, and the world of the Devil we are seeing turned to a gigantic and complex, and satanic structure in every sense as we can see, dominating the minds of the inhabitants of the Earth as a whole as he dominated he mind of Cain, very terrible, the ONLY exception are the chosen ones of GOD, they have believed in JESUS- John 17:1-12, and according to the Ephesians 1:3-8, among many biblical references.
But our Lord JESUS assured: Matthew 5:5- Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. This assertion of our Lord JESUS, combined with Revelation 11:15-18 and Revelation 12 as a whole, give us what will happen now, from now on, even now in the turn from the sixth to the seventh Day, seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day, or seventh and last millennium.
GOD BLESS
Get ready
Then, face to the environment extremely favorable,the pseudo messiah will make a deal with the Pope to build an universal Empire, a religious Empire,atually an anti-JESUS Empire or AntiChrist's Empire,and according Scriptures who will be the FIRST to rule this satanic Empire for 42 months is the Pope,as it is prophesied in Revelation 13:v.5.
Then will be given unto the Pope a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies;and also will be given power unto him to continue with his blasphemy for forty and two months(Rev.13:5)and he will open his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name-JESUS-,and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heavenly places in Christ( Ephesians 1:3-8).
And will be given unto the Pope to make WAR with the saints-( Revelation 13:7-9 combined with Dan.7:22&25-27),and to overcome them: power will be given him over all kindreds,and tongues,and nations,all that dwell upon the earth will worship him,those whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb that was slain from the foundation of the world.
Rev. 13:v.9-10 say: 9 If any man have an ear, let him hear. Here is the PATIENCE AND THE FAITH OF THE SAINTS.
THE WORST OF ALL WILL COME AND IS AT DOOR
But the worst of all, as soon as ends the FIRST period of 42 months of the Antichrist's Empire,ruled by the Pope Paulus VII,afterwards will assume the RUTHLESS false messiah,and he will rule the Antichrist's Empire for 1290 days(Dan.12:v.11),then will be established the Abomination of Desolation,the end of the current Dispensation arrived.
Among evangelical people of all denominations will be divisions,they will be hated of all nations for JESUS name's sake, among the believers many will be offended and will betray one another,and will hate one another.And many false prophets shall rise in the churches and will deceive many. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.But he that shall endure unto the end,the same shall be saved.
Thank you for your reply
I am very zealous for the Word of my GOD, He is the Truth, so I need to clarify I work with the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, So, having read your reply, I ask: Am I therefore become your enemy, because I told you the Truth?
In fact, the correct translation of Genesis 1:1 is not heaven(singular),but heavens(plural), according was said and revealed by own GOD to Moses. So for your own good and also of all readers here, and elsewhere, what matters and prevails is what GOD said to Moses, that is the original and true source. What did GOD reveal about heaven/heavens around 2500 years after Adam or 1500 years BC, and Moses wrote, it is as follows:
Genesis - Chapter 1-2 - torah
Verse 1-In the beginning of GOD's creation of the heavens and the earth.
Verse 2-Now the earth was astonishingly empty, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and the spirit of GOD was hovering over the face of the water.
By the way, heaven is a plant, understand? planted by GOD: Isaiah 51:16 combined with Ephesians 1:3-8, among many other biblical references.
16 -> And I have put my words in thy mouth, and I have covered thee in the shadow of mine hand, that I may plant the heavens, and lay the foundations of the earth, and say unto Zion, Thou art my people.
You called me rude, no poblem, it is the consequence of my zealous for the Word of GOD, the Truth. What does the Word of GOD say? Proverbs 27:6->Faithful are the wounds of a friend(or by who loves); but the kisses(something like panegyrize) of an enemy(of who annoy) are deceitful.
2Timothy 3:16-17
16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of GOD, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of GOD may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
GOD BLESS
Thank you for your reply.
In my view,according to the Word of GOD,there are the 1st,2nd and 3rd heavens,and the heaven of the heavens.
What does the Word of GOD say?
Moses said: Deuteronomy 10:14KJV->Behold,the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the Lord's thy GOD, the earth also, with all that therein is.
1Kings 8:27KJV->27 But will GOD indeed dwell on the earth?behold,the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?
Psalms 33:6KJV->By the Word of the Lord were the HEAVENS made;and all the host of them by the breath of His mouth.
Psalms 148:4KJV-4 Praise him,ye heavens of heavens,and ye waters that be above the heavens.
Job 14:12->12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
When Scriptures say heaven(singular) they refer to a specific heaven, i.e. to one of the four heavens GOD created, understand? The problem is to discern which of them Scriptures refer.
So,when you intend to post a message,you should FIRST to judge if your message fits with the Word of GOD or not,and if not fit with Scriptures, don't post it. Paul Apostle,was caught to the 3rd heaven, once 3rd heaven exists, also exist the 1st and 2nd heavens.
Re.12:12-Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them( Ephesians 1:3-8). Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea!for the Devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knows that he has but a short time.
Furthermore,you said the modern versions are not Holy Ghost inspired like the KJB is,put an 's' implying plural heavens but the Holy Spirit wrote it as one heaven. Now,to say that the modern versions of the Word of GOD are not inspired by the Holy Spirit is a serious error, in fact what you wrote was/is not inspired by the Holy Spirit,in fact you need to rethink the things you wrote for good to them that love GOD,to them who are the called according to His purpose.
-->19 And the temple of GOD was opened in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8), and there was seen in His temple the Ark of His Testament: and there were(will be) lightnings, and VOICES, and thunderings, and an earthquake( Revelation 16:18), and great hail.
Luke 13:29
29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the Kingdom of GOD.
Come up hither, yeah, come up hither, unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not...it will be a waste of time to want to buy now, the bridegroom has come and shut the door, the door is shut( Luke 13:25 combined with Revelation 3:7), and he that was /is ready goes in with Him to the marriage: and the door is closed-->for ever.
Lord, Lord, open to us. Oh Lord, open to us, open to us... Lord, Oh Lord ...open...
Luke 13:25-27
25 When once the Master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he answers and says unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
26 And ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
Lord, Lord, open to us. Oh Lord, open to us, open to us... Lord, Oh Lord ...open...
according to the Word of GOD.As all of us know,the Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting,the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing,so the most important thing to be LITERALLY fulfilled now is the establishment of GOD's Kingdom,understand?which was preached by our Lord around 2000 years ago to establish it in this time:Hoseas 6:2-3 and 1Corinthians 15:24-27 and Revelation 11:15-18,take a look,there are many biblical references.
The main focus now,and from now on,is the establishment of GOD's Kingdom preached by our Lord JESUS Christ as said Paul Apostle: Philippians 3:20-21
20For our conversation is in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8);from whence also we look for the Saviour,the Lord Jesus Christ:
21Who shall change our vile body,that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body,according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself.-->Is this promise OK for you,is it in your remembrance/mind?
2Timothy 2:4-5
4No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please Him who has chosen him to be a soldier.-->(or to
please the One who enlisted him to the war--> Revelation 12:7-12).
5And if a man also strive for masteries(dominion),yet is he not crowned,except he strive lawfully-->by the Word of GOD: Hebrews 4:9-13)
Revelation 11:15-18
15-...The kingdoms of this world are become the Kingdoms of our Lord, and of His Christ;and He shall reign for ever and ever.
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18-And the NATIONS were(will be)angry,and GOD's WRATH is come...(GOD's WRATH comes upon all the NATIONS,get ready not to suffer GOD's WRATH,but to receive glorious rewards as says the verse)
Ro.8:18-19
18I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us
19For the earnest expectation of the creature waits for the manifestation of the sons of GOD
John saw: Revelation 15:1-8:
1-And I saw another sign in heaven,great and marvellous,7 angels having the 7 last PLAGUES;for in THEM is filled up the WRATH of GOD->(Re.11:18&16:1)
4-Who shall not fear thee,O Lord,and glorify thy name?thou only art holy: ...and thy Judgments are made manifest.
Then the PLAGUES start to be poured, its in the beginning of the 2nd half of the last week: Revelation 16:2: The FIRST PLAGUE will be poured upon the earth; upon the inhabitants of Israel, and there will fall a noisome and grievous sore upon all MEN which have the MARK of the Beast, and upon them which worshipp his image.
And the 2nd plague will be poured upon the sea;-->sea= waters=> peoples, and NATIONS, and multitudes of every tongue, GENTILE PEOPLES, and they will become as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul(that was created, Genesis 2:7) shall die.-->As was in Sodom and Gomorrah, and in the neighbouring cities.
The sequence of the pragues and their consequences are described from Revelation 16:4 to 21.Terrible,very terrible, as we can foreseen by the Word of GOD.JESUS warned us: Luke 21:25-28:-->25 And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars( Revelation 12:1-12, take a look.); and upon the Earth distress of NATIONS, with perplexity;the sea(peoples, and NATIONS, and multitudes of all tongues)and the waves roaring( Psalm 2:1-5);
26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the Earth: for the powers of heaven ( Ephesians 1:3-8) shall be shaken.
27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.(the same cloud that received JESUS in His ascension- Acts 1:9-11,combined with Matthew 17:5,and 2 Peter 1:16-12,and Isaiah 4:1-6 speaking of the seven Churches as a clue to understand the prophecies).
28 And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
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4Whatsoever is born of GOD overcometh the world:and this is the victory that overcometh the world,even our faith.
5Who is he that overcometh the world,but he that believeth that JESUS is the Son of GOD?
6JESUS is He that came by water and blood,even JESUS Christ;not by water only,but by water(John7:38-39;8:51and11:26),
and blood-understand?( Philippians 2:7-11).
And it is the Spirit that beareth witness,because the Spirit is Truth.
GOD,the Word,is Spirit- John 6:63.The Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing,understand?
7There are three that testify in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8),the Father-GOD the Father-,the Word-the Word made flesh-JESUS-,and the Holy Spirit(who is not a ghost as is written in English language,but a person-the Paraclete,the Comfort):and these three are One.
18We-the TRUE believers-know that whosoever is born of GOD sinneth not;but he that is begotten of GOD keepeth himself,and that wicked one toucheth him not.
19And we know that we are of GOD-understand?-,and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
20And we know that the Son of GOD is come,and hath given us an understanding,that we may know Him that is true,and we are in Him that is true,even in His Son Jesus Christ.This is the true GOD,and eternal life.
Hebrews 1:1-3
1GOD,who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2Hath in these last days spoken unto us by His Son,whom He hath appointed heir of all things,by whom also He made the worlds;
3Who being the brightness of His glory,and the EXPRESS IMAGE(WORD MADE FLESH)of the Person of GOD,and upholding all things by the Word of His power,when He had by Himself purged our sins,sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Revelation 11:15-18 &1Corinthians15:24-27
15...The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,and of his Christ;and He shall reign for ever and ever.
18And the NATIONS will be angry, and GOD's WRATH is come...
Be careful and Get ready
Ephesians 1: it is interesting to note, that wherever 'predestination' is referred to here ( Ephesians 1:5, 11) & also in Romans 8:29, the word is used not directly towards salvation as a destiny, but to the believer's adoption into God's family, to being God's Praise & Glory, & to be conformed to Christ's Image. So I can see that 'salvation' is implied in these phrases, for how else can believers achieve God's Purposes for them unless they are first saved? Yet it is believed by some that God has predestined each person to receive salvation or be rejected, however we must consider His Predestining Work (in the verses cited above) as to what He predestines believers for, rather than Him arbitrarily consigning some & not others towards salvation. For this reason, I quoted to you recently from Romans 8:29,30, emphasizing that God predestines His children towards salvation & conformation to His Son according to what He already knows about them (& all people) - or else God isn't as omniscient as first understood. And brother S. Spencer referred to these verses as well.
If we are to believe that God is indeed truly Omniscient, then He must already know who will come into the World & what their state in life will be & how they will answer His Gospel, should they come under its sound. So I do agree with you, that God does not accept or reject sinners arbitrarily, for then His Love for all people is brought into serious question - indeed the essence of the Gospel is misunderstood & weakened to the 'n(th) degree'.
Thanks, brother, as you said I was just sharing my understanding that many do not agree, only if we, in prayer and study led by the Holy Spirit, can our understanding change. I know this doctrine has existed for 1600 years and to many, it is considered heresy to not agree. I am amazed at how many people have been killed because of it, even during the Reformation.
We can end this; I will only make one reply to Colossians 2:9. Do I deny the deity of Christ? No. Colossians was written about 30 years after Jesus was crucified, God raised Jesus from the sleep of death because death could not hold Him because Jesus was sinless, the man Jesus overcame the law by a perfect life, He fulfilled the law that was written for man that a man had to fulfill.
When God raised Jesus, He placed Him above all that is in Heaven, on earth, and under the earth, Ephesians 1:19-21 Philippians 2:9-11. This gave Jesus the full power of God's throne, but this did not happen until Jesus was victorious and resurrected, that is my understanding of Colossians 2:9. To me the word deity that was changed to Godhead is confusing and misleading.
Thanks for your discussion brother.
God bless,
RLW
Red Dragon
If we analyze deeply Scriptures,we will see there is difference between how was the Devil,the old Serpent,in Adam's time,and how he is in this time of Apocalypse.The difference is great.By the way,the new name of the Devil now is red Dragon.
In the time of Adam,the Devil still hadn't 7 HEADS and 10 HORNS, much less his TAIL.It's important detail.
Re.12:3-4->3 another wonder appeared in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8);behold a great red dragon,having 7 heads and 10 horns,and 7 crowns upon his 7 heads.
4And his TAIL drew the third part of the stars of heaven("drew to the Dragon's Orbit"),and did cast them to the earth:(through the apostasy)
Satan's body started to develop or take shape in the first century of the Church.As time went on(centuries),Satan's body was growing more and more in the WORLD;in Asia,and Europe,frica,Oceania (Australia),North America,Central America and South America,his 7 heads geographically
At the same time, the spirit of antichrist grew within the Churches of the Lord,as is written in 1John 2:18-20,mainly in the Church of Rome,actually the cradle of Antichrist.From there the TAIL of the red Dragon started to growth in the environment of the 7 heads of the Dragon,i.e. in the world at that time
Around 95AD,1st century,the Beast of sea was in the embryo in the belly of the apostate Church of Rome,through Church Satan developed exceedingly his satanic body having 7 heads.John saw that in this current time of Apocalypse,the body of the Beast of sea,whose roots is described in Revelaton 13:2,was complete,having 7 heads,10 horns,and upon his 10 horns 10 crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy
Furthermore,Israel was banned from their land from 70 to 1948AD,i.e. during 1878 years,this terrible event prevented the manifestation of the false messiah before the current time of Revelation, the development of the 10 horns stayed in stand by until this current time.This last event will happen from now on
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Yes, brother you understood correctly I believe Jesus if He chose, He could have given into a temptation and been disobedient to His Father. Hebrews 2:18 says He suffered being tempted and in Hebrews 4:15 Jesus was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Jesus did not have a sinful nature like we do, He was not from man but was conceived in the womb of Mary by the Holy Ghost, He was the second man the last Adam.
The first Adam was not formed with a sinful nature, but he sinned and was disobedient, Jesus was sinless and obedient to the end, Romans 5:19. He had to know how it feels to battle temptations to become our priest and mediator. If Jesus was incapable of giving in to temptation His perfect sinless life has no meaning and if He was not capable of being disobedient being obedient to the Father unto death has no meaning.
The miracles Jesus did were not by His power but by the power of the Holy Ghost that God the Father gave to Him without measure John 3:34-35 Acts 10:38 Jesus said many times it was not His will but the Father's will who sent Him, and He also said the words He spoke were not His but the Father, John12:49-50 That is why Jesus's name is called the Word of God, Revelation 19:13.
Now after God raised Jesus from death, He is at His Father's right hand on the throne of God and has been given power of the throne over all until the last enemy, death is under His feet, Ephesians 1:19-23 Revelation 20:14.
I know you may disagree but that is how I understand it.
God bless,
RLW
16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy. S
He is simply saying mankind cannot will or make progress ( runneth: (trekh'-o Strong's/Bible Hub) to gain heaven. It is only through God's mercy for those who ask for it. you didn't answer my question: what happens to those who are not of the elect, those not chosen by God to be saved? It seems to me God is just disposing of them.
Ephesians 1:3-7 Is addressed to the to the church in Ephesus (us) and the Church of God was predestined to be established during Christ's ministry on earth NOT individuals.
Ephesians 2:1-10 is telling simply telling us that it is the grace and mercy of God through Jesus' death and resurrection the we can be born again.
Please show me through the actually wording of these verses how they interpret different then what I have shown. God Bless:)
(Part 2):
In Ephesians 1:4-5, it says, "According as He has chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world." As I mentioned, Ephesians 1:3-14 is all one sentence in the Greek text. And I would like to share a technical point. Whenever you have a noun, like a person, and you mention this person's name, and throughout the paragraph or chapter, you want to make reference to that person, you don't keep mentioning his name.
Let's say his name is Jesse. You don't keep saying Jesse in every sentence. Once you're introduced to the person, you make reference to "him," and "he." Those are all pronouns and its antecedent is Jesse so that whenever you see he or him in the sentences, you know who this person is talking about.
So, Jesse becomes the antecedent once it's introduced. Now what is interesting, take a look at the pronouns? According as He has chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world.
Who's the "Us?" And that we should be holy without blame before Him in love. Having predestinated us for adoption. In this text, in Verses 3 through 14, the subject in the Greek text is in Verses 13 and 14, way beyond all of this. So, the antecedent to us and we, who's the us and we?
So, I got to find out who or what the antecedent is for us and we. If you go to Verses 13 and 14, it tells you "We who have heard the gospel, we who have believed, and we who have been sealed with the Holy Spirit of God.
That's who the us and we are!
God has predestinated us, having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ. The adoption process has been predestined for us so that we can become children of God, according as He has chosen us in Him before the foundation of the world. Later on, it says that He has predestinated us to be holy without blame just like He did in Verse 4.
(Part 1):
"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren."
For whom he did foreknow (that is, know ahead of time), he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son,
With predestination being one of the more recent topics, I would like to share my understanding on what predestination means. I'm no bible scholar by any means, but I actually think that predestination in the bible is fairly simple to understand. To begin with, I just want to say upfront that I do not believe God chooses ahead of time who will be saved and who will not.
In the Greek text, Ephesians 1:3-14 is all one sentence. And that's the chapter that many people focus on when it comes to predestination. The most prominent teaching on predestination that we have today comes from John Calvin, and there are differences as people take different turns with it as to what predestination means.
But the one that's going around that people hold to a lot is that predestination means that God predestines or chooses those who are going to be saved ahead of time, and He predestines those who are going to go to Hell ahead of time.
So according to that belief, you are chosen and predestined as to whether you are going to go to Heaven or Hell. In other words, you have no choice. There's no free will according to this teaching. You are either predestined one way or the other.
But if I read this text in context, here's what it says: For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate. Predestinate what? To be conformed to the image of his Son.
I'll make a point-blank statement, and some may agree, some may not, but predestination is never associated with salvation in the bible. You will always see the word associated with those who are already saved. And it won't be for salvation. It's what has been predestined or chosen for us as part of our inheritance.
With the establishment of the 3rd heaven- Isaiah 51:16, Luke 20:35-36, 2Corinthians 12:2 combined with Revelation 4:1, the 1st and the 2nd heavens THAT WERE ESTABLISHED until this current time( Ephesians 1:3-8 combined with Philippians 3:20-21) being on FIRE (GOD is a consuming FIRE- Isaiah 33:10-14) shall be DISSOLVED (something similar to an implosion) as was prophesied. Seeing then that all these things shall be DISSOLVED, what manner of person ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness? 2Peter 3:10.
Actually until this current time were established two DISTINCTS heavens, and from now on will be established or planted ( Isaiah 51:16) the DISTINCT 3rd heaven for 1000 years, no more than 1000 years, that is the Kingdom of GOD- Revelation 11:15-18, incidentally Satan also ascended to the 1st and 2nd heavens- Revelation 12:3-and still is in heaven for now, but he will not ascend to the 3rd heaven, never will, on the contrary, he will be cast into the bottomless pit, and WHEN the thousand years(of the existence of the 3rd heaven) are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison and there will be another battle against him and his hosts, and fire will come down from GOD out of heaven, and will devoure them. After that, GOD will establish the environment of heaven of the heavens (an heaven above of the first three distincts heavens that were before).
That's what we interpret about heavens within the Scriptures. There are three that bear record (testify) in heaven, the Father (GOD the Father), the Word(the Word made flesh-JESUS), and the Holy Spirit (who is not a ghost as is written in English language, but a person): and these three are One. 1John 5:7
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GOD established the NT,second heavenly environment or second heaven( Ephesians 1:3-8),it has lasted 2000 years as is written: Heb. 1:1-3:
1GOD,who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2Has in these last days(last two millenniums)spoken unto us by His Son,whom he has appointed heir of all things,by whom also He made the worlds;
3Who being the brightness of His glory,the EXPRESS IMAGE of His Person and upholding all things by the Word of His power,when He had by himself purged our sins,sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
JESUS said to the Jews: John 2:19-21: 9-->Destroy this temple,and in three days I will raise it up.21But he spake of the temple of His body.(So,up from the grave the body of JESUS arose in the 3rd day,a day of 24 hours,but spiritually the Church is the body of Christ( Colossians 1:24),and now,after two Days,two millenniums,as was prophesied by Hosea 6:2-3,the body of Christ, the true Church of the Lord( Ephesians 1:3-8),will rise up or caught up and put down all rule and all authority and power,JESUS must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet,and the last ENEMY that shall be destroyed is death, having He put all things under His feet. 1Corinthians 15:24-27.
The Kingdom of GOD will be established by the Power of the Word of GOD- Revelation 11:15-18.The Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing.Satan will be cast down into the bottomless pit that he should deceive the nations no more,till the thousand years should be fulfilled.Re.20:2-3
2Pe.3:7-8
7But the heavens(the heavenly environment of the OT and NT which were established by GOD here( Ephesians 1:3-8),and the earth(the current Israel-the clay,the dry land),which are now,by the same Word are kept in store,reserved unto FIRE against this Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men(this Day arrived-the Lord's Day)