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Psalms 34:18 The LORD is nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.

Psalms 51:17 The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and holy place, with him also that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the heart of the contrite ones.

Isaiah 66:2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

Alex 1939...Hiya Benjamin...Good question, hope i can help you...But its in the spritual realm...As Faith is the result of his word planted in our hearts...The living word is that good seed that forms Christ in us...In the spiritual realm ....As the scripture says faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word ( the living word ) of God...His voice,...Today if you will hear his voice...Its like a spritual pregnancy the Child is the H.G...The kingdom...Unless you receive the Kingdom as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in Thats y Hebrews 11:1 tells us Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen....Jesus tells us unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...Thats y he has to know us so he can plant his incorruptible seed in our hearts initiating a spritual pregnancy of Christ in us...But there is a time of gestation thats when we walk by faith and not by sight...We have the substance of things hoped for the Spirit the H.G...But we also have the evidence of things not seen Faith....Faith is truly a spritual pregnancy that preceeds a heavenly birth of Christ in us... Gal 4:19 my lil Children of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you...We cannot see the Child the H.G that Child of Promise he is just a spritual infant that cannot speak for a while...But he is the anointing that spirit of truth that is gona rule all nations As in John 16:13

......But until the Kingdom comes we walk by faith and not by sight...As jesus said the kingdom comes not with observation simply b/c its in the spritual realm.

.....She brought forth a manchild that is gonna rule all nation and her Child was caught up to God and to his Throne... Rev 12:5.....This woman in Rev. 12 is the best example of faith... b/f her Child came she had the subtance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen ISAIAH 66:7..B/F she traviled she brought forth, b/f her pains came she was delivered of aman Child.

It's really nice

Life is short (Part 2).

Today; we seem to think little on the next generation; hence kids have found that there isn't much value in their existence. With so many cut off before birth it is no wonder that kids would feel unvalued today and with such poor parenting skills undisciplined themselves. Hosea 4:6 indicates that because of a lack of knowledge people are perishing. Life is as a vapor as several scriptures indicate ( James 4:14). Not only are things accelerated today ( Daniel 12:4) but as I said in the last piece the value of everything has diminished. There will be no suffering loss; I assure you for cell phones; computers and other high tech entertainment sources NOT being present in heaven. We need to be careful in earthly treasures as well (See Luke 16:11); such behaviors show what is really in our hearts as to our conduct in this world.

In light of these facts; do we consider how great it is that we are saved from having to be in an unregenerate state for all eternity? Isaiah 66:4 describes how God "chooses their delusions" and later on at the end of that chapter a vivid description of hell is given. Phillipians 1:21 states that Paul said "to live is Christ; to die is gain." and other verses show that it is better to be in the house of mourning rather than mindless happiness ( Ecclesiastes 7:2).

In light of all this; we do well to see how we approach the House of Worship but also how we live out the rest of the week. It is sad today how many people insist on having beepers and other cell phone distractions interrupt the services. Personally; I feel a need to have a cell phone only in case my elderly parents have an emergency at home. That was the original use of "beepers". For every moment here on earth there are eternal ramifications; we need to focus on working while it is yet day ( John 9:4). As for Christ it is also for us in that respect our time to serve here is short and we need to focus on the Great Commission.

Revelation 21 continued

As we enter into verse 8; we have the first of several statements as to the fate of the wicked.

It is hard to even bear thinking about these things without pleading to God for strength. We notice the cowardly state as being the first sin mentioned. We can't do it without the Lord as Peter attempted to do with bravado without the Spirit. Without Him we can do nothing. As we see a parallel verse in Isaiah 66:24 we see the state of man either in hades during the Millennium or during the eternal state. We see how God's mercy and forgiveness are only for when they are in this life; and we also see how they will be an abhorrence to all that see them. There is no way to overstate here how important hearing God's voice is at the present above all of life's distractions and temptations and comforts. I can't see how anyone no matter how mature they are in the Lord isn't broken when considering these things; and ever grateful that God saved them from this unspeakable horror.

The rest of the chapter basically describes heaven coming down to earth and it's dimensions and foundation stones. Again; as stated previously when we consider the affect of a city almost the size of the moon landing on the earth surely the edges would be pressed out and likely the mantle would expose itself to the surface which would allow lava (i.e. the lake of fire) to be outside the gates. We see this also in other verses where Christ warns that heaven will be seen but "you yourselves thrust out" ( Luke 13:28).

There will be some existence of kings on the earth; whether it symbolizes those of the church or those perhaps who lived through the Millennium period bringing glory and honor into it. The doors are not shut day and night (implying that even if the light of the sun and moon aren't NEEDED they still may exist). Again; the last verse is a terrifying reminder that unsaved people will not enter or be able to. They are locked forever in sin.

1Corinthians 10:23,

Leviticus 11, Isaiah 66:17,

Have you noticed we can do, eat, act, drink, anything, anyway we want but there's long-term consequences, sometimes immediate consequences. Many of the foods GOD's law given to Moses for Israel are found to be linked to disease, obesity, diabetes, etc, etc. Pork & strong alcohol drinks related to dementia. Even in patience in their 30's.

So, as Paul said, above._._

Hopefully these are helpful

Revelation: Final introduction thoughts

The heart is deceitful above all things; and desperately wicked; who can understand it? ( Jeremiah 17:9).

Whenever we attempt to make study of this book in particular; or any other scripture as a purely academic exercise; we are always deficient of understanding at best; and subject to deceiving ourselves. 2 Thessalonians 2:11 warns that they shall believe THE lie; and that not for want of truth; but because they did not LOVE the truth as stated in the previous verse. Isaiah 66:4 warns of God "choosing" their delusions with the horrifying spectacle of hell being seen by all men during the Millennium and perhaps eternity (verse 22-24 of same chapter). ALL will worship the beast; all whose names have not been written in the Book of Life from before the foundation of the world ( Rev. 13:8 loosely translated).

Given these sober admonitions; we need to test ourselves to see if we are in the faith ( 2 Cor. 13:5-6). This reminds us of Christ's excoriation of the Pharisees as to Satan being their father ( John 8:44 as one example of many). We need to have true repentance; not only for our outward manifestations of sin; but a change of heart. This means the world; flesh and the Devil are all factored in here. Christ needs not only to be the center of our lives; but indeed IS our life if we are truly "crucified with Christ" ( Galatians 2:20). A sign that we have spiritual life is when we are incredulous that we really have died to self; as sin becomes more and more evident during the sanctification process. This likely is part of the verse John 18:37 where He describes those who come to the light. This needs to be an ongoing process; just as is the meaning of John 3:16. We need; therefore to be possessors of He who is faithful; not just confessors of the faith. A lack of understanding this makes one believe the fallacy that "God helps those who help themselves" which was a Ben Franklin adage. We must die daily.

John 12 and Predestination

This section goes from they did not believe (as seen in John 6:64; 8:46 and others) to verse 39 of this chapter which states that they COULD not believe as prophesied in Isaiah 53:1.

Verse 42 serves as a harsh reminder that we can have belief in Christ but we also must CONFESS with our mouths ( Romans 10:9-10) in order to have saving faith. We are reminded here of Luke 16:15 which states that which is honorable among men is an abomination to God.

Here; it was praise of men that was the cause; and being thrown out of the synagogue; not even direct physical persecution.

Verse 48 reminds us of the conviction of the Spirit as mentioned in John 16:8; a few chapters later. Clearly; the whole Godhead works as a unit in tandem in ways mysterious to man.

Verse 40 goes on further to state from Isaiah about God Himself blinding men. Some other verses on that include 2 Thessalonians 2:11 where God Himself sends strong delusion so that they will believe the lie because of the previous verse where they did not LOVE the truth. Also we have Isaiah 66:4 where it says that God will choose their delusions.

All sin stems from self justification; and self love that cannot accept the true state of our souls as fallen man because of Adam and his progeny that makes up natural man. Naked we come into this world and naked we shall go ( Job 1:21); also see Ecclesiastes 5:15. We cannot love anything above God; Jesus uses the word HATE for anything else ( Luke 14:25-26). We see the general sentiment in verse 25 of this chapter. Clearly; Christ Himself showed love in the previous chapter for Lazarus; Mary and Martha as well as John when He said "Behold your mother" to John at the cross so that he could take care of her. ( John 19:26-27).

There were times when they sought Him out when He stated the more important principle that those who followed Him were brothers; sisters; etc. ( Luke 8:21).

The blueprint for being a child of God or not is in John 12.

Isaiah 66: 2

For all those things hath Mine hand made and all those things have been , saith the LORD: but to this man , will I Look ,even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word .

Reminds me of the verse humble theyself before the Lord . And why not ? Gods greatnesses cannot be found out . Amen !

Doug , you bring up a great point that almost no one teaches on , much less has a clue about. So you have provided a number of verses on "clouds" allow me to provide a few more that will open things up for you and all else who read this.

Psalms 104:3 " who maketh the clouds his chariot" .... that is the KEY to the clouds . A cloud or clouds plural are actually referencing his chariot and fleet of chariots in Psalms 68:17 "The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels:

the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place." 20,000 chariots would be a flying fleet of aircraft/spacecraft, as he comes down from heaven and maneuvers through the skies of earth. Look at Isaiah 66:15 "For behold, the LORD will come with fire, and with his CHARIOTS....." this is at the second coming ! This clearly ties in with the armies in heaven which follow him in Revelation 19:14



That should open things up a little for you. A detailed study of the Mt of Transfiguration where a cloud comes with the Father in it bringing Moses and Elijah.... "and they feared (the disciples) as they (Moses and Elijah) ENTERED INTO THE CLOUD".. Like 9:34. Yeah, I bet they did. First off, Moses was resurrected - Jude 1:9. Elijah went up in a chariot in 2 Kings 2. They then return in one of these Cloud-Chariots with the Father to talk to Jesus before his death. This fulfills the prophecy Jesus gave the week before about some standing here not tasting death till they see the kingdom of God .... Matthew 16 end - Matthew 17:1-10 Mark 9:1:10 Luke 9:26-36

As for the Ascension of Christ in Acts 1, it is likely the same cloud of the Mt of Transfiguration, as Jesus goes to sit on the right hand of the Father. This doctrine is virtually unknown to most all Christians, much less those that teach or preach to them. Thanks be to God I happened across a website a few years back where the late Patrick Cooke laid this all out in detail. Opened my eyes quite a bit.

Obviously, Peter, James and John see the kingdom coming at the Mt of Transfiguration. John especially, the Book of Revelation.

Compare all 3 passages of Matthew 17:1-9, Mark 9:1-9 and Luke 9:26-36.

Remember, Moses had died and God had buried him. Michael the archangel goes to get his body Jude 1:9

Elias (Elijah) was picked up by a chariot of fire 2 Kings 2:11-12.

They are returned by and re-enter a "cloud" where the voice of the Father is heard, Luke 9:34-35. Note the Father must have been in that cloud / chariot.

The clouds and chariots connection is found in Psalm 104:3 The clouds typify the chariots of the LORD which number 20,000 Psalm 68:17.. notice they are "as in Sinai", Moses time in Exodus. Of course the Cloud in Exodus performed as an aircraft / spacecraft as it came down from heaven and then did many aerial maneuvers.

When the second coming happens it is referred to many times as a "day of clouds" and in Isaiah 66:15 it involves "his chariots",

which is a fleet of at least 20,000 - Psalms 68:17.

Moses and Elias represent the Law and the Prophets, which is what Jesus came to fulfill - Luke 24:44 and they "spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem" - Luke 9:31

So then, Jesus makes the statement that there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the kingdom of God... refers to the event of The Mt of Transfiguration event.

Obviously, Peter, James and John see the kingdom coming at the Mt of Transfiguration. John especially, the Book of Revelation.

Compare all 3 passages of Matthew 17:1-9, Mark 9:1-9 and Luke 9:26-36.

Remember, Moses had died and God had buried him. Michael the archangel goes to get his body Jude 1:9

Elias (Elijah) was picked up by a chariot of fire 2 Kings 2:11-12.

They are returned by and re-enter a "cloud" where the voice of the Father is heard, Luke 9:34-35. Note the Father must have been in that cloud / chariot.

The clouds and chariots connection is found in Psalm 104:3 The clouds typify the chariots of the LORD which number 20,000 Psalm 68:17.. notice they are "as in Sinai", Moses time in Exodus. Of course the Cloud in Exodus performed as an aircraft / spacecraft as it came down from heaven and then did many aerial maneuvers.

When the second coming happens it is referred to many times as a "day of clouds" and in Isaiah 66:15 it involves "his chariots",

which is a fleet of at least 20,000 - Psalms 68:17.

Moses and Elias represent the Law and the Prophets, which is what Jesus came to fulfill - Luke 24:44 and they "spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem" - Luke 9:31

So then, Jesus makes the statement that there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the kingdom of God... refers to the event of The Mt of Transfiguration event.

The earlier comment would be true in regard of course to the two witnesses who the whole world sees dying and being resurrected. It is fairly clear that even in hades in the past communication existed between individuals (Lazarus and the rich man); and such events are also seen in the Transfiguration and indeed throughout Revelation where the saints of God are asking "how long" when still in a spirit form under the altar. There is also some time element here; eventually even those in hell will all come out of their graves for the "Great White Throne Judgment" and the saints of God of course are Raptured/Resurrected before that. (although some eschatologies think it happens all at once at that time).

We could; of course look to many "near death" and death documentaries. We can't validate the theological aspects of all types of experiences as true but there is a rather uniform description of having vision of all things around them (360 degree aspect) in many accounts. Physically; of course those who are still physically alive at His return will see Him come (as lightning goes from the east to the west). ( Matthew 24:27). We also have Hebrews 9:27; as well as other verses showing that we all stand before God immediately after death ( 2 Cor. 5:6 also). We have all tribes mourning when He comes back to earth ( Zechariah 12:12).

There seem to be some verses saying that places that have neither heard of his fame or seen His glory ( Isaiah 66:20) will do so and that implies during the Millennial reign (according to my eschatological view). So there may be a process until all see Him at least those still alive physically when He comes. Nonetheless; God is beyond time and sees all things in that perspective.

(Also God created all the physical aspects of creation so certainly rules over it and can supercede things as all the miracles TRULY of God attest).

Hope this helps. Agape. Rich P.

Hello Juriah Johnson,

In recent years I've researched deeper so causes of severe health problems like Dementia, &.many other problems. If the results were true & accurate: Studies that were done over 30 years showed links to Pork, & higher alcohol consumption. I was amazed & went back to scripture to see GOD calls these abominable to eat. Deuteronomy 14:3, Deuteronomy 14:7-8, If you do your own scientific, medical research on the problems, that come from severe conditions resulting from eating crab, lobster, shrimp all of which supposedly when broken down within the body, turn into sugars in the body. Deuteronomy 14:9-10, more detail read Deuteronomy 14, whole chapter. Also Leviticus 11, interesting if you read the difference of animals considered "unclean" with proven causes of severe diseases, if we believe any science & medical information the bare disease in living & death.

Please see Isaiah 66:15-17,

Romans 14, *

Hopefully these are all helpful

Dear John, in peace, think of everything eval we humans can do. But when we talk about the evil one, we know that he exalted himself and wanted to be God. Ezekiel 28:12-16 Why the Lord has given us satan as an image: Will probably come from the fact that we shall not believe that we are anything other than what we are, gems refined and taught by the Holy Spirit. Who dares and questions the Lord? Then put on your humble garment, as you want the Lord to teach you. Immerse yourself in the scriptures to be Responsive. It is God who is perfect, remember that we are, like ants Isaiah 66:1. But many of David's hymns say how energetic and happy the singer is to belong to the Lord. Example: Psalms 29 There is a lot of good warrior power in the hymns. Psalms 28. Praise, prayer, and thanksgiving are a great start.

It is a joy to belong to the Lord, He has already found a way out for us. So that All who believe in His Name will be saved.

1 Corintihans 10:13 The Word of God is the only weapon we have against the evil one. Jesus himself had to use the word against him in Matthew 4:1-11 My Bible is not hiding in a drawer and is not hidden away.

For me, this was a turning point. For i understood quite quickly that here it was spirit powers that would prevent / bind me into shame / bondage. Where i am, the Word of God is with, you do not know right when you meet a person who ponders something about the Lord :) It is also openly located on the kitchen table or in the living room. The Bible is my favorite, Number One, it's where we get to know the Lord, Each and every one of us Jesus believers must find out what is best for ourselves.

1 John 2:20-27 And do all things to the glory of God with a clear conscience. But never be ashamed, you have the Living God with you and He has all power in Heaven and on Earth! All we have to do is believe in Jesus Christ.

Then everything else comes into place as we go. Learn by heart scriptures that strike back. Romans 1:16-17 Ephesians 6:10-20 GB

Isaiah 66.

Each day we walk through the Bible. Isaiah, the great old testament evangelist I ever saw talks about the final judgement in his last chapter. Let us learn from our text today that we (human beings) have a choice of free will to choose or reject JESUS CHRIST. In doing so we will suffer the consequences both now and for eternity. Let us not choose our own ways which will definitely end up in hell. "...they have chosen their own ways, ..." God has chosen the delusions for CHRIST rejectors. All believers shall worship their LORD every week in the New Jerusalem (which will descend out of Heaven to New Earth. Rev 21:10). While on the other end, Christ rejectors shall take their part in Hellfire. Their worm shall not die, and their fire shall not be quenched. Choose JESUS CHRIST before it's too late.

For while we were still weak and sinners, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly. Rom 5:6 ,8. JESUS CHRIST manifested in the fless, bore all our sins, died on the cross, buried and rose again from the dead, ascended to heaven, seen by angels, appeared to Cephas, then to the twelve, proclaimed among the nations, believed on in the world, taken up in glory. ( 1Ti 3:16) Believe Him and be saved, All the Earth.

Isaiah 65:13

Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, my servants shall eat, but ye shall be hungry: behold, my servants shall drink, but ye shall be thirsty: behold, my servants shall rejoice, but ye shall be ashamed:

Isaiah 66:5

Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.

Isaiah 54:4

Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.

Isaiah 49:23

And kings shall be thy nursing fathers, and their queens thy nursing mothers: they shall bow down to thee with their face toward the earth, and lick up the dust of thy feet; and thou shalt know that I am the LORD: for they shall not be ashamed that wait for me.

Ezra 8:22

For I was ashamed to require of the king a band of soldiers and horsemen to help us against the enemy in the way: because we had spoken unto the king, saying, The hand of our God is upon all them for good that seek him; but his power and his wrath is against all them that forsake him.

Ezekiel 32:30

There be the princes of the north, all of them, and all the Zidonians, which are gone down with the slain; with their terror they are ashamed of their might; and they lie uncircumcised with them that be slain by the sword, and bear their shame with them that go down to the pit.

Ezekiel 43:11

And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them.

Millenium.

Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all.

And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there. And Sharon shall be a fold of flocks, and the valley of Achor a place for the herds to lie down in, for my people that have sought me. Isaiah 65:8-10.

NOTICE: HERES A CONTRAST GROUP IN Isaiah 65:11-16. These blessings is not to ALL!

Isaiah 65:17. parallels with Revelation 21:1. So you can go back and forward between the two books and get the sequence of events in its order and see the players involved and their separate destinations.

Isaiah 65:18-20 is clearly Israel and clearly future. (Not the Church)

See here the parallels:

Isaiah 65:19. and Revelation 21:4.

Isaiah 65:21_23. and Deuteronomy 28:30-33 ( Deuteronomy 28:45-46) is clearly Israel.

Isaiah 65:25. Clearly future.

Notice the economy, location, two groups and two fates, in both Revelation and Isaiah in both books last few chapters.

Isaiah 66.

Isaiah66;17-21. and Matthew 25:31-46. (Judgement of the individuals of the Nations) Notice three groups 1) The sheep.

2) The Goats. 3) The little ones. (Possibly the 144000 sealed servants.)

Isaiah 66:22. Shows Gods faithful promises and purpose for Israel is eternal.

Now we come to Isaiah 66;23-24.

Isaiah 66:23. Speaks of All those who are saved!

Isaiah 66:24. Speaks of those who are not. ( Revelation 21:1-8.)

IS 66;24. And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me: FOR THEIR WORM SHALL NOT DIE, NEITHER SHALL THEIR FIRE BE QUENCED; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. ( This speaks of their eternal state of damnation.) as seen in Revelation 20:13-15. Revelation 22:11.

2 Peter 3:6-14. Speaks of two groups, repentance, consequences.

Marke:

This is a Prophecy, and it contradicts your understanding of the parable of Lazarus and the rich man.

Isaiah 66:23 And it shall COME TO PASS, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall ALL FLESH come to WORSHIP before me, saith the Lord.

Isaiah 66:24 And they (all flesh, worshipping God) shall go forth and look upon the carcases of the men (themselves) that have transgressed against me; for their (all flesh, worshipping God) worm shall not die, neither shall their (all flesh, worshipping God) fire be quenched, and they (all flesh, worshipping God) shall be an abhorring to all flesh (themselves).

Job 25:6 How much less man, that is a worm? and the son of man which is a worm?

Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.

God Bless YOU!

Tammy:

God is LOVE; but how do you know what love is, without knowing what hate is?

God is LIGHT; but how do you know light, is without knowing what darkness is?

God is LIFE; but how do you know what life, is without knowing what death is?

God is TRUTH; but how do you know what truth, is without knowing what deception is?

God is WISDOM; but how do you know what wisdom, is without knowing what ignorance is?

The tree of KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL, are in the same TREE, when we eat the FRUIT we HAVE KNOWLEDGE of GOOD and EVIL.

Genesis 3:22 And the Lord God said, Behold they have become like ONE OF US (Gods) to KNOW GOOD and EVIL.

Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods, the children of the most high.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate, to be conformed to the image of his Son (God) ....

Philippians 2:5 Let this mind BE IN YOU, which was also in Christ Jesus:

Philippians 2:5 Who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be EQUAL with GOD.

Isaiah 66:9 Shall I not bring TO BIRTH, and not cause to bring forth? ......

Isaiah 66:8 ....for as soon a Zion travailed, she brought forth her children (gods: in the AGE TO COME).

God Bless YOU!

Sister Kay:

You are exactly right WE DIE daily.

Our mind of flesh being renewed to the mind of Christ.

We can only come to the TRUTH of the NEW BIRTH, it happens at the death of this body.

There is ONLY ONE LIFE, CHRIST, and Christ is God.

Our body of flesh dies, LIFE (God) continues, we switch BODIES.

1 Corinthians 15:38 ...and to every SEED; HIS (Christ is the SEED) own body. Seed always begats the same seed.

It is beyond our mind of flesh to comprehend that Christ can live in us, yet can also appear as a man walking in flesh.

This is what we can look forward to.

Christ said that where he is we will be also; Christ is IN CREATION bringing creation to TRUTH and LIFE.

We as priest (with the body of Christ) in HIS Kingdom, the likeness of Christ, will be IN CREATION bringing creation to TRUTH and LIFE.

Revelation 10:11 ....thou must prophesy again (in your new body) before many peoples and nations, and tongues, and kings.

Go ye into all the world teaching and preaching the gospel of the kingdom. This is only possibly in the next AGE (world).

Read and study: Isaiah 66:18-24 and Jeremiah 51:19-33 and Revelation 2:26-27

These are prophecy about the Sons of God, we not a perfect Son of God till we leave this AGE (world).

Hebrews 12:23 ...... and to the spirits of just men made PERFECT.

God Bless YOU!

These are some precious verses about heaven, ELB;

Deut. 4:39 - Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the Lord He is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.

Deut. 10:14 -Behold, the heaven and the heaven of heavens is the Lord's thy God, the earth also, with all that therein is.

Isaiah 66:1 - Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

1 Thes. 4:16 - For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

Isaiah 6:1,2 - Though these verses do not say 'heaven', we've already established that heaven is God's throne, and He, and other inhabitants live there! ---

In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.

2 Above it stood the seraphims: each one had six wings; with twain he covered his face, and with twain he covered his feet, and with twain he did fly.

John 14:2 2 - In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you

The Father lives where His throne is, i.e., heaven.

Space doesn't allow me to continue with more 'heaven' verses, and there's not enough room left to look at 'hell', so I'll do a 2nd reply!

Grace to you!

May God bless you , have you thought that the time you spend reading those commentaries ( which will just be one person's opinion , a human ) instead you could actually read God's words in the Old Testament ? Give it a go , I'm sure you will love it .

Please send bible comments on all the old testament books

A person who meets this definition is someone who fears God and has no will but to seek and serve God without reservation. This verse comes to mind:

Isaiah 66:2

For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the Lord: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

Hey Clint,

Heaven, facts, or personal beliefs could be quite diverse. The Bible tells us heaven is God's dwelling place, 2 Chronicles 36:15, God's holy temple and throne are in heaven, Psalms 11:4, and the angels are in heaven, Matthew 22:30. The tabernacle Moses was instructed to build was a copy of the one in heaven, Hebrews 8:5.

The Bible tells us no man has ascended up to heaven, John 3:13. The Bible tells us heaven even the heavens are the LORDs and the earth is for the children of men, Psalms 115:16. We are told several times, that heaven along with the earth will be changed and made new, Isaiah 65:17 Isaiah 66:22 2 Peter 3:13 Revelation 21:1, and the new earth is where those whose names are in the book of life will be and God will dwell with us, and we will see His face Revelation 21,22.

If you are thinking, like the question, we hear, are you going to heaven when you die? That is something else. My understanding of scripture is the only way man will see heaven is in a vision like Paul, 2 Corinthians 12:2-4 and John, Revelation.

God bless,

RLW

The subject of prophecy is complex and as a new Christian 40 years ago something that was often on my mind. The basic crux of theory as to the last generation was that 1948 with Israel becoming a nation in a day ( Isaiah 66:7-8) which was prophesied meant that that was the beginning of that generation. Well; it is 2022; and with Psalm 90:10 pretty well showing the length of a generation being 70 years or 80 at most we are already going to go to at least 2029 before the 2nd coming. (Interestingly the second part of the Psalm 90:10 about "labor and sorrow" do sound like labor pains; but also could just show the natural end of life for the individual.

Anyway; some say that the fig tree parable assures us of 1948; or perhaps 1967 when Jerusalem was recaptured. That was under the assumption of a 40 year generation when I was a young Christian. Many forget the second part of the prophecy about ALL the leaves ( Luke 21:29 and other gospel passages). This would tie into the land of "unwalled villages" with the Ezekiel 38 war as well; and the prosperity in the land. It would seem that oil and natural resources are beginning to be the "hook in the jaw" for many-whether Russia is Gog; or Turkey and other nations who may fit the bill better. Anyway; it seems that Psalm 83 who discuss the surrounding nations (such as Palestinians) and perhaps Syria would show a war with the surrounding immediate neighbors; and the Gog/Magog the outer perimeter. Probably; the Gulf nations will have prosperity first for a time after Israel begins to expand their borders; and share the economic prosperity with other nations. The peace treaty ideas starting a few years back seems to have the beginnings of Daniel 9:27 and Daniel 11:39 "dividing the land for gain" with all the land and money brokering. It could all happen between the first and 2nd seal but it seems it will be before that.

For now; judgment begins with the House of God. ( 1 Peter 4:17). Keep the faith! Agape.

You're most welcome, Phillip. Even this a.m. in my quiet time, your question was on my mind, and another verse came to me, and that is Isaiah 66:1 -

Thus says the LORD: "Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. Where is the house that you will build Me? And where is the place of My rest?

Heaven is God's home; Jesus will take us there. Where He is, that is where He wants us. :)

Above all, Phillip, it is vital that you be born again from above, as Jesus told Nicodemus as being vital. Unless you are born of God's Spirit, you cannot, in your own human wisdom, grasp spiritual truths. To understand that there is a heaven to win and a hell to shun is very simple to those indwelt by God's Spirit, and it troubles me that you have not, after 20 years, been able to grasp this very basic truth. Be sure you have been born again, Phillip. Head knowledge and getting some kind of answers to all of our questions is okay and has its place- but nothing is more vital than truly being born of God, and being sealed by the Holy Spirit!

Amen! :)

Dear "Erovio" in peace there is a lot about breasts in the Song of Songs and here in Isaiah 66: 10-13 Then you can read for yourself and see if there is any of this that you mean. If you are looking for something obscene, it is not found in the Bible. But love between God and people.

It is a pure love that will never die, it is love because of faith, it is a true love because He is the Only One who can give true love. Because God Is Love. Pure and Righteous is that love

1 Corintihans 13

Sorry Yvonne Mathis, I have been having some trouble recently with Internet server or something. I tried to respond with scripture.

(will we know people? In Heaven) John 10:14, John 15:15, Acts 15:18, 2 Corinthians 3:2, 2 Corinthians 6:7-10,

1 Corinthians 13:12, Isaiah 40:11, Isaiah 60:4, Isaiah 66:18, Matthew 24:31, Mark 13:27, Ephesians 1:10, Luke 16:19-31,

Hopefully these are encouraging & helpful in answering your questions in this.