Discuss Isaiah 66 Page 5

Betty,

Luke says in Acts 1:12, "Then returned they unto Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is from Jerusalem a Sabbath day's journey." A Sabbath day's journey is approximately 1,000 yards. On the Sabbath day, you can walk anywhere you want to, but you cannot exceed 1,000 yards during the day. If you do, you have to sit down right where you are at. You cannot go beyond 1,000 yards or you have broken the Sabbath day. That was for the Jews.

That's why Jesus said "Pray that your flight out of Israel, during the tribulation, is not on the Sabbath day. Why not on the Sabbath day? It's because they are going to be bound by the law, and all of a sudden you see all these Jewish people sitting outside of town on the road saying "We can't go anywhere. We are not allowed to go over 1,000 yards!"

Why does Luke write " a Sabbat s day journey away' asopposed to any day'sJourney

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What an awesome provision for God's people! There are several places in scripture that tell us that the things of God are past finding out as far as human research goes. In 1 Corinthians Chapter 2, Paul says that only the Spirit of God reveals the things of God. He's the only one that knows the things of God. Again it is beyond human research ability to research spiritual things. But when God sends His Spirit, He guides us into all truth!

Again, there is no place in John Chapter 16 that speaks about the events of Christ's second coming, only the coming of His Spirit. I cannot agree with you that Paul was a liar or that he fabricated any truth. If you believe that Paul was a liar or fabricated truth, do you trust in Paul's teachings at all?

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Yasser,

There is nothing in John Chapter 16 that describes any of the events that take place at Christ's second coming. I am not sure how you come to that conclusion. All throughout Chapter 16, and in fact, beginning at Chapter 15 Verse 26, Jesus is talking about the Holy Spirit coming, not His second coming. He uses the word "Comforter" in Chapter 15, and then again in Chapter 16. This word comforter refers to the Holy Spirit coming, not Jesus' second coming. John 16:8 speaks of the comforter (Holy Spirit) coming.

In Verse 8, Jesus says "And when he is come, he will reprove, and it is literally the word convict. It is a judiciary term that means to present evidence to bring about conviction. That is what the Holy Spirit does. That is his ministry. He will convict the world of three things. He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: Jesus is not talking about His second coming. He's talking about sending His Spirit.

You ask that "If Jesus has something to say then why he didn't tell his disciples before his ascension? Well, if you look at Verse 12, Jesus says "I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. The word "cannot" is the word ability. You don't have the ability to bear what I'm about to tell you. And then you go down to Verse 13, and Jesus says, Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

Jesus is telling them that the Holy Spirit will reveal things that will later come. You see, Jesus knows our hearts. He knows what truth we can and cannot handle, and He only reveals to us the things He knows we are ready for. He knew that His disciples would not be able to handle what He had to say to them.

Jesse, a little while is his 2nd coming and it doesn't mean it only limited to Paul's vision.....If Jesus has something to say then why he didn't tell his disciples before his ascension?....Despite the fact that Paul's letter is the majority of the New Testament

And here's another proof of fabrication about his alleged vision, in Acts 9:19-29 Acts 26-19-21 contradicted by Galatians 1:15-23 is quite obvious of contradiction, can you see the fabrications now?...

No, Paul is not guilty of lying. Everything Paul taught lines up with the teachings of Christ. There is no contradiction between Paul's teachings and the teachings of Christ. If you take John 16:10 by itself, I can see how you would come to your conclusion. Jesus said in Verse 10, I go to my Father, and you see me no more. But you can't stop there and use that as your basis of claiming Paul is lying! Jesus was telling them that He would be leaving (His ascension into heaven, shortly after His resurrection), and they would no longer see Him here physically.

But then you go down to Verse 16, and Jesus says, "A little while and ye shall not see me: and the term "a little while" means a short time of space. Jesus says, and again, a little while, and (ye shall see me), because I go to the Father. So what is He talking about there? A little while you won't see me, but then a little while after that you will see me? How do explain that one, because they're probably thinking "That doesn't make sense! We understand a little while you will not see me. You've been telling us that for three years. But now you are saying, in a little while and (you will see me) because I'm going to the Father. Well, if you are going away, how are we about ready to see you again?"

Verse 17 would show you that they didn't understand what Jesus was telling them. They were discussing amongst themselves what this meant, and Jesus knew that, as we're told in Verse 19. And then you go down to Verse 22, and Jesus says And ye now, therefore, have sorrow: but (I will see you again), and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.

Jesus is talking about His coming to them in the person of the Holy Spirit that He has been talking to them about since Chapter 14, where He says the Comforter will come to you, I will come to you, the Father and I will come to you, and we all will make our dwelling in you!

Galatians 1:1 says,

Paul an apostle (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

See ACTS chapter 9

After Paul hit the ground; he said, Who art thou, LORD?

The men traveling with Paul, heard an audible voice, but saw no man.

Saul stands up, but now he is blind. He is blind 3 days and does not eat or drink.

Keep reading; by verse 20 Paul is preaching Christ in the synagogues that Jesus is the Son of God.

By verse 23, the Jews are plotting to kill Saul.

We need the full account of Bible events without JUDGING them. Read the full account first; even the whole chapter.

Paul was struck blind but he and some other guys ALL HEARD with their ears, the VOICE of the risen Christ. Paul was a chosen vessel. Verse 15-16 (written in the red ink)

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You said, "so you don't need to be a Jew to follow the commandments". In one sense, you are correct, if you mean that God's Laws are good & very useful to all people (as even now some of those laws are incorporated in modern societies). But, we are talking here about, not just about doing the 'right things before God', but does God accept us (Jew & Gentile alike) if we try to maintain strict adherence to His Laws?

So if keeping of the Laws couldn't make us right before God, then He had to send Jesus, His Son, Who came as the complete fulfilment of all those Laws (He was the Word of God come in the flesh & without sin, to be the only acceptable Sacrifice that would be acceptable to God). So, if a person is now acceptable to God through Jesus' Sacrifice for their sins, where does the significance of the Law appear? A person cannot keep the Law & also come by faith in Jesus' Sacrifice to be acceptable to God: these two oppose each other, as self-effort & trust don't mix, as oil & water don't. So if we come by the Law, God judges us by it; if coming in faith, God accepts us because His Judgement was completed at the Cross of Jesus.

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Yasser, your example of Abraham circumcising his Gentile servants is correct, as that was what was required to be done to become part of his household & observe any ceremonies. But it remains that the Law of God was not given to the non-Jew; the Law was one of the marks (circumcision, the other) signifying God choosing this particular people to be His Own to the exclusion of everyone else.

Then if you believe that a Gentile still needed to come under (obey) these Laws to be accepted by God, then of course, they would be judged by God under the same conditions the Jew was. So where does it leave those Gentiles? They would still have to obey them to the letter even to the performance of the sacrifices, etc. which they & the Jew could never do. The Law, at best, could only show them that they were incapable of total obedience to it & that God couldn't accept them on that basis, as even the breaking of one law, meant that they were guilty of all.

So the Law was given as a temporary measure until the perfect Sacrifice would be given by God Himself, that would only be fully acceptable to Him. "For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us".

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I would only ask you to explain the whole of 1 Corinthians chapter 12.

All New Testament (Covenant). Given to men through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, which is the Spirit of Christ Jesus?

Is it just Paul the Apostle of Jesus you are having a problem with?

In John 16:10 Jesus himself said that after his ascension to heaven you cannot see him anymore, and he even warned us in Matthew not to believed if someone says that he is in the desert,....But once again here comes Paul saying that he saw Jesus on his way to Damascus, is Paul guilty of fabrication because of his lies?...

God brought down those commandments not exclusively for the Jews, so you don't need to be a jew to follow the commandments...If you read the book of Genesis when God commanded Abraham to circumcise his household it includes even his gentile servants so it means that the law is not exclusively for the jews

Yes, I do not argue that the Bible is an inspired word of God but the letter of Paul because it was his own opinion and most of it contradicts the teachings of Jesus,.....Like for instance, Jesus said in Matthew 5:17-19 that he doesn't come to destroy the law of the prophets, but here comes Paul saying that obeying the law of the prophets is no need just by faith ( Romans 3:28)

Yasser, you are correct in your understanding of Isaiah 66:16, 17 & it's true that the eating of swine & many other animals (as in Leviticus chapter 11) are also included. So the explanation to what you are seeing & understanding can be explained as follows:

The laws given for not eating unclean animals were God's direct command to His people, Israel. They were given because He said that these were an abomination to Him & possibly also for maintaining good health. When the Gospel came to the Gentiles, this law (as other Laws of God) could not be imposed as then it would mean that Gentiles would then first have to become Jews to then be saved (see Galatians 2:3, 4: which gives an example of Paul's refusal to have Titus circumcised, as some insisted on doing, to be able to become a Christian). As well, the keeping of Jewish laws nullified the work & results of Jesus' sacrifice for mankind's sins (i.e. one cannot mix the obedience to the Law with the gift of Grace).

So what is correct now? Well, the Jews still observe the Laws & of course, the one you mentioned, but the Gentiles have no such command. Does God then reject all those who eat unclean animals? He doesn't, because that requirement no longer has application in the New Covenant of Grace. Gentiles can still choose to refrain from pork, horse, dog, etc., but we are not judged by what we eat but what comes out of our heart ( Mt 15:17-20 gives a similar example of the Jews & eating with unwashen hands which was sin, like eating an unclean animal).

And briefly, about Paul's letters: Paul & the apostles wrote according to what they had heard from Jesus or from special revelation from Heaven (maybe, like you giving instructions to children about what you learnt from your forefathers). So those letters from them are considered true & valid as they don't contradict Christ's teaching. Even Mohammed & others claimed such authority in their teaching. So this can't be argued, it's just a question of truth of the word.

When I was a young Christian, someone told me they believed the Holy Spirit wrote the book of Hebrews. I guess no one knows?

Yasser Davin,

I beg to differ that Paul's letters are not the word of God. Paul said in Galatians Chapter 1 Verses 8 and 9, "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9) As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that which Paul preached, Paul says let him be accursed.

How could Paul make such a bold claim by saying if any man does not receive the gospel he preached, let that man be accused? That sounds like a pretty bold claim to make, wouldn't you say? Except for the fact that we know where Paul received his teaching and doctrine from.

Paul gives us his credentials in Galatians 11 through 24. If you look at Verse 11, Paul says, "But I certify, or more literally, I make known to you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after, or according to man. So it's not of man as you claim.

In Verse 12, Paul says "For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."

Paul spent three years alone out in the Arabian Desert receiving his teaching from Christ Himself. If you read through all the way down to Verse 24, you will see that. I hope you have a good understanding of who Jesus Christ is, and who He claimed to be. That would be a starter at understanding who Paul's teachings came from, God or man!

34) O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? For out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh.

35) A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.

36) But I say unto you, That EVERY IDLE WORD that men shall speak, they shall give an account thereof in the day of judgement. (Bema Seat)

37) For by your words thou shalt be justified, and by your words thou shalt be condemned.

Isral is the Apple of God's eye. Deu. 32:9-10; Psalm 17:8, Prov. 7:2, Zech. 2:2-6, 8

If people keep poking their pointy fingers in His eye, with all their glorious self righteousness; it may not bode well. My conscience is clear. I will not speak on this again.

The Bible is divinely inspired by God. Bible scholars assembled the writings of the Books, maps, etc. Google it.

You can tear the pages out of your Bible, but not mine.

If it doesn't make sense, then read the commentaries in this website as you come in. It even has a handy link to google the verse too.

If your Bible has center columns on each page...they correspond to a letter or number in the scripture; it points to another scripture that further explains the origins of that scripture; or gives more info.

I find studying more productive if you read slowly (no speed readers here).

Why are the letters of Paul included in the gospel? when it was his personal letter intended for a different type of people...So I personally disagree that the letter of Paul included in the gospel because it is not a word of God but a word of man

Colossians has only 4 chapters, and 1 Timothy 4:2 is out of topic

Read Colossians 6:13 and 1 Timothy 4:2.

Abominations are leprosy, crab, lobster, catfish, things in the water without fins and scales , women in pants men dresses, yellow hair, sodomy, swine, malice, wrath, certain bug eating snakes , lizards ,certain like eagles vulture birds of prey turtle

Hi brother, Greetings to you!

This is with regards to your comment on the Sabbath. Right from the creation, God has set apart one day as the Holy Day, A day of rest. He sanctified the Sabbath day, which is the seventh day of the week and not any other day or all the days of the week. We can also see from the commandments written by God Himself to Remember to keep the Sabbath Day Holy; Six days you shall work but the Seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord Thy God( Exodus 20:8-11); It is a covenant sign between God and His Children( Ezekiel 20:20).

However, most of our Fellow Christian friends worship God on the first day of the week, which is merely man made and that day has neither been considered as a day to worship nor God has changed the day of worship from Saturday, the 7th day of the week to Sunday, the first day of the week.

Jesus, while He lived on this earth, kept the Sabbath and went to the church on Sabbath days as His custom was( Luke 4:16). Jesus even said, in Matthew 5:17 that He has not come to destroy the law or the prophets but to fulfill. Jesus also said, if you love Me, keep My commandments( John 14:15). So, its very plain and simple, if you love Jesus, Keep His commandments.

As we live in the last days, there is going to be a time where we all are going to face a testing time with regards to the day of worship. All the end time prophecies as mentioned in the book of Revelation are fulfilling and soon, Sunday law is going to be enforced globally. The Question is whether we are obedient to God's law by observing the Bible Sabbath or following the man made commandments( Revelation 14:12) These are explained definitely not to scare anyone; but the Scripture says, Whoever obeys His words are going to receive the seal of God and the others the mark of the Beast.

The beautiful part is, we are going to observe Sabbaths in Heaven as well!( Isaiah 66:23). So, why don't we start right here on earth! May the Holy Spirit lead you to His truth. Amen.

I will send delusions among them that they will believe a lie; men with men women with women...

verse 4. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations. I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them because when I called, none did answer when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not...... this verse 4, described us when we both knowing and unknowingly willfully was riding high in sin, but thank GOD for HIS MERCY. HIS MERCY keep death from us until those who would chose to obeyed John 3:16-21 did so. Nevertheless TIME will end any-day for mankind Revelation 1:3, and GOD season of MERCY will end. Then THE BOOKS and THE BOOK will be open Revelation 20:11-15.

for those who eats pig, the anger of the Lord shall be upon him Isaiah 66:16-17

Why would you say that? Of course it is literal. God will destroy this earth in the end times and create a new earth where there will be no evil thing and we will live with Him for ever.

What Church said is True and in Scripture there are many referances to Abominations God tells us not to call good what He calls evil but today this is being ignored even in some Churches including the warning in Lev20:13 If a Man also lie with Mankind as he lieth with a Woman both of them have Committed an Abomination they shall surely be put to death their blood shall be upon them Blessings-Annie

A abomination is a disgrace, horror, outrage, curse, torment, crime, and or a violation

What is abomination ?