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Jesus is the Good News. You can repent and be born again. John 3.

Matthew 5:27-37 on marriage and divorce. Take a look at 1 Corinthians 7:8-15; Malachi 3:15-16

Marriage is a VOW MADE BEFORE GOD. The problems in your life are because you don't know how binding a vow is. It would be good for you to make an appointment at a Church that offers counseling. They're not going to condemn you. You will understand the seriousness of the vow.

John 4:

16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.

17 The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband:

18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.

Comment: Jesus knows all of our life's story. He didn't condemn her. He showed her a better way to live.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence (honor) her husband.

My counsel for happiness: wed a Christian man. Genesis chapter 24 is the best love story written.

The Book of Ruth has a happy ending too.

Mishael

Are you possibly searching for similarity between: Genesis 1, & John 1,

Sister Martha:

John 4:24 God is Spirit .....

Ephesians 4:4 ONE SPIRIT ...ONE BODY ...

Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD and FATHER OF ALL .....

Man, born of woman, (FLESH), is like a Beast of the Earth, NO KNOWLEDGE.

The Holy Ghost came to GIVE MAN KNOWLEDGE.

So we can be BORN OF SPIRIT.

God IS SPIRIT, no beginning and no end.

God created a IMMORTAL BODY, and put inside that IMMORTAL BODY, HIS SPIRIT (Himself), and called that BODY, Jesus Christ, the first man, the TRUE ADAM, with no beginning and no end.

Here is a PROPHECY in Genesis:

Genesis 5:2 Male and Female created he them, and blessed them, and CALLED THEIR NAME ADAM. in the DAY they were created.

That day (of that creation), is called the DAY OF THE LORD, the day you come out of darkness into light. You come to the KNOWLEDGE that by the RESURRECTION of Christ's NEW BODY (YOU and I) and the NEW LIFE by the SPIRIT of THE FATHER: we become ADAM, Christ was the first ADAM, before the flesh and blood Adam, we are the last, ADAM, created in Christ Jesus

Revelation 1:8 ... Revelation 22:13 I AM Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end.

Ephesians 4:4 ....ONE BODY .......

There is only ONE BODY that can exist in the next age, and THAT BODY is the BODY OF CHRIST.

1 Timothy 6:16 Who only (Christ only) hath immortality, dwelling in the LIGHT ......

1 Corinthians 15:38 But God giveth IT (the new creation in Christ) a BODY as it hath pleased him, and to ever SEED HIS (God's on body), God's BODY IS JESUS CHRIST.

WE ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST, The Father (SPIRIT) being THE LIFE, of the BODY.

This NEW BIRTH happens when your body of FLESH and BLOOD DIES.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also predestinated to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the FIRSTBORN (Alpha) among many brethren (Omega).

God Bless You.

Similiarities between John Chapter 4 & Genesis Chapter 4

It seems I've missed counted.

Part 10.

The faith of Christ gives a fruit filled life to a believer by the power of Christ spirit in you.

The works you do is your nature!

For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Ephesians 2:10. This is what James is saying.

These works don't produce life, they will be tested by fire and will confirm life and maturity! 1 Corinthians 3:10-15.

But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. John 4:23.

God bless.

OLD AND NEW COVENANT

These two covenants are as far apart as the east is from the west.

Revelation 21:5 ......I make ALL THINGS NEW ........

In the Old Covenant, LIFE was in the BLOOD.

Flesh and Blood CANNOT inherit the NEXT AGE.

Christ came as a BODY of Flesh and Blood.

John 3:7 .....ye must be BORN AGAIN.

We CANNOT inherit the next age, because we are still flesh and blood.

When this BODY of flesh and blood DIES, it goes back to dust from whence it came.

The LIFE goes back to GOD that gave the BODY LIFE.

1 Corinthians 15:49 ....we SHALL bear the image of the heavenly ....

1 Corinthians 15:53 ...this mortal SHALL PUT ON IMMORTALITY (Christ) ...

1 Timothy 6:16 Who (CHRIST) ONLY hath immortality ....

1 Corinthians 15:38 God giveth it (the NEW COVENANT IN CHRIST) a BODY as it hath pleased, and to ever SEED HIS (Christ's) own BODY (I AM the RESURRECTION John 11:25)

YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN.

John 3:16 Whosoever BELIEVES SHALL (at the DEATH of this flesh and blood body) BE SAVED .....Delivered.

Revelation 12:1 ...A WOMAN (Christ bride) .....

Revelation 12:2 An she (Christ's bride) being with CHILD cried, travailing in BIRTH, and pained to be DELIVERED (given a BODY to exist in the NEW COVENANT.

Revelation 12:5 And she brought forth a man Child, who was to RULE ALL NATIONS with a rod of iron .....

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh (the deception of this age, free will) and keepeth MY WORKS ( Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD that WORKETH IN YOU both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure), to him will I give power over the nation.

Revelation 2:27 And he shall RULE THEM with a red of iron, even as I received of MY FATHER ( Psalms 2:8-9) ...

Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father OF ALL .....

Christ pour out his blood, and the flesh and blood BODY, DIED.

The Father RAISED Christ's BODY from the GRAVE and gave him a NEW BODY.

A Flesh and Bone BODY, the blood no longer the LIFE; but, the LIFE was SPIRIT.

John 4:24 God is SPIRIT (LIFE) ....

God Bless ALL.

Part 8.

Jesus says in John 15:1-2 "my Father is the husbandman." Vine dresser"

This emphasizes fruit barring is a work of the Holyspirirt, not of you.

Let's consider that for a moment, FRUIT IS NOT GIFTS AND IT'S NOT SERVING AND IT'S NOT BY COMMAND.

So, when we come across these scriptures John 13:34-35. Mattthew 7:20. 1 John 2:11. 1 John 4:20. these are the marks of a Christian and is the ONLY way they are identified! And if you cannot be Identified by this you have John 15:6 to deal with.

Your faithfulness, intelligence, commitment, being noble, teaching, serving is all good but you're not identified as a Christian by none of these and can be told I "NEVER" knew you! Matthew 7:22-23.

Let's be clear on the recipient of this love that validates our position.

We are to love everyone, but our validation is specifically towards the Brothern.

The passages in 1 John speaks expressly about HATING you Brother.

God is truth, God is light, and God is Love. We are to worship God in truth and in Spirit. When the truth is spoken it shines light on darkness, and those in darkness hates the light and they will hate you!

HUMILITY.

Another fruit with great virtue. Woks of the law couldn't bring this either. It brought pride!

Being connect to the genuine vine brings humility. Look at what the Lord tells the Pharisees in Matthew 21:33-44. Right away you see the contrast of the two vines. Israel was to be a vine, but they became a degenerate vine. Jeremiah 2:9.

Now, place your attention on vs 43. Therefore, say I unto you, the kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. (The Church) Peter calls the Church a Holy nation in 1 Peter 2:9.

Humility cast out pride doesn't it. We tend to want to place our spirituality on things we do, putting ourselves on display and pointing people towards us instead of Christ.

more to come.

Its Christ faith were saved by not ours!

See part 9.

Part 7.

Fruit barring.

Let's keep these two verses in mind while we go through this section.

Matthew 22:36-37. and 1 John 4:21.

and remember the context in the previous sections.

Notice the highlights!

Jesus answered and said unto him, "IF" a man love/Agape me

( HE WILL ) keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.

( He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings and the word which ye hear is not mine but the Father's which sent me.

These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.

But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. John 14:23--26.

We've established that Agape is a fruit and can't be achieved by the flesh, "Mans efforts"

Man can not produce the fruit, the vine does. Man is the branch, he bares the fruit. John 15:4-5.

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, NEITHER CAN A CORRUPT TREE BRING FORTH GOOD FRUIT.

Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7:15-20. When you look at Matthew 7:13-14 the corrupt tree is any other way to God presented in the wide gate. for instance "WORKS"

That's why these often misused verses follows, Matthew 7:22-23.

This is a fruitless deceived group that thought they worked their way into Heaven.

So tell me why isn't the significance of Loving one another sought after and debated above anything else when it's paramount?

Because some know they don't have that love on display and don't bare it.

God bless.

Dear Gloria Solomon, if you are a born again believer, you cannot be possessed by a demon because in 1 John 4:4 it says, "Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world."

You can however be influenced by the devil who will try anything to separate you from God, including evil thoughts and images of things you shouldn't have been looking at or reading. My advice to you is to stay away from those things and play that God will help you to do as this verse commands, Philippians 2:5 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:" You can do this by drawing close to God in constant prayer, reading and studying His Word. James 4:8 "Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded."

And remember always, Philippians 4:13 "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."

God bless and keep you!

Here by we know.

Part 2.

And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.We love him, because he first loved us.If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?And this commandment have we from him, Thathe who loveth God love his brother also.1 John 4:16-21.

Notice the last part of verse 21, "And this commandment have we from him, "That he who loveth God love his brother also" HE WHO LOVETH GOD LOVE HIS BROTHER ALSO! This is not asking you to do anything, it is telling you what is being done by God spirit being in you!

(And hereby we do know that we know him,) if we keep his commandments.

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

Keep in mind this verse about loving "the brethren". This is Agape! This is a fruit; you don't produce this, you are the branch, you bare it.

see part 3

Part 1.

Here by we know.

A Child of God can and should examine themselves.

I gave a recent post on the old man being crucified with Christ and given life being quickened by the Spirit. In other words, being baptized into Christ death and resurrection. Romans 6:3-4. Romans 8:8-13,

Paul gives gave these verses as a rebuttal to anyone having the old nature having dominion over them.

Here are some highly ignored verses and is whereby we "know! whether God spirit is in us or not. And is what should be a great concern!

A new commandment I give unto you, that ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another. John 13:34-35.

He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes. 1 John 2:9-11.

And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. We love him, because he first loved us.

If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also. 1 John 4:16-21.

Now "if" we have been baptized in Christ, we have the love of God in us to love one another.

This is virtue by being in him and him in you.

see part 2.

S. Spencer

One last thing I thought of before I retire for the night.

I re-read the entire thread as you suggested. In your post beginning this thread you did not ask "Is water baptism essential for salvation? But Texsis responded to the thread with such a query and I responded to her response. So that is how I became involved with this thread. Sometimes people take a thread in a direction that differs from the original poster. I am o.k. with that. But, even so, I hope you are not too frustrated that your original post has gone the way it has.

Also, when you spoke about the command to love God and love others, I thought about 1 john 4:7-16, my favorite Bible passage. So in speaking about obeying these two commands Jesus gave us, we can only love Him or others because He is Love and loved us first. That is why I responded as I did. I don't think I was way off in my response, but it seems you thought so.

We can talk more on this tomorrow, if it seems good to do so. For now, I have spoken into this conversation the best way I can tonight. I am tired and need to be off to bed. God's blessings to you tonight, Steven

Hi Gigi.

Thanks for the reply, however it is far from what I meant when I posted, I never mentioned anything about the love of God, I'm sorry but you missed this one by a mile! Nowhere close to the context.

Here's the verses I have given. John 13:34-35. and 1 John 2:1-11. 1 John 4:20-21. and yes these topics has shut down debates whether it's about the trinity, eternal security, baptism, etc. because I've posed these during several debates and no response afterwards.

Please read and go over the response I gave to Bro Dan that you're replying to again.

It's getting late, I will cover this tomorrow.

God night and God bless.

Hi Bro Dan.

Sorry for a delayed response, I've been working and replying all day.

You've given me Mathew 22:40. That's not the verses I gave you and the Mathew verse you gave is out of context.

Here is the verses I gave. John 13:34-35. 1 John 2:1-11. and 1 John 4:21. It's getting late so let's take this up tomorrow.

Thanks and God bless.

Old Testament law: Deuteronomy 16:16, Exodus 34:23,24, Deuteronomy 31:11, Exodus 23:17, the dates of calendars have changed even the Hebrew / Jewish calendars. Moses through GOD established the beginning of the year to be the Passover, no calendar today honors that. Exodus 12:2, Exodus 12, Numbers 28:16,

Jesus honored these things, along with His parents (on earth) Luke 2:22,23, Luke 2:41-49, John 4:45, John 5:1, John 10:22,23, even those who opposed Jesus expected Jesus to honor the appointed days : John 11:54-57, John 12, Even facing His own brutal death: Matthew 20:17,18 , Mark 10:32,33,34 do you think HE knew He was the Lamb,: Luke 2:38, Luke 18:31, that was going to be slain for Passover? That's why HE told them, as HE obediently set his face to go? Luke 9:51,

Matthew 21

Micah 6:6-8,

John 4:21-24, 2Corinthians 6:2, 2Colossains 2:16,17, Hebrews 10:1-19, Matthew 18:20,

Hopefully these are helpful

There are several reasons someone asks this question. I'd like to address the core of your question. If you're having situations in your life that seem impossible, please remember GOD can do impossible! He "said" & the entire Galaxy came into existence, Genesis 1, the Bible is full of GOD's miraculous compassion, 2Kings 7, notice there was a horrible time with horrible actions, 4 leperous men, (usually cast out away from other's because of it) they were in a seemingly hopeless situation. Yet GOD had already made provision for all the City.

GOD cares for us even more than He does the sparrow. 1Peter 4:12-14, 1Peter 1:7-13, hope to the end. 1Peter 2:19-25,

Psalms 139, Matthew 10:22, endure to the end. Exodus 20:13 "Thou shalt not kill."

With that said, instead seek The Savior,John3:15-16, Jesus Christ understands Luke 22:40-48, Matthew 26:36-39, Hebrews 4:15

John 17, Jesus overcame so we can endure through by His example, Revelation 3:21, Romans 12:21 to live is good. 1John 4:4, John 16:33, Hebrews 2:17,18,

We all have to live our own lives & will give account. Matthew 25:31-46, Romans 14:12,

I hope, if you've suffered such a tragic, sad loss, that GOD gives you comfort.

I pray in either situation. GOD gives you direction, hope, encouragement, faith & comfort. Stay in HIS Word.

Hopefully this is helpful. Please let us know if you need prayer.

Part 3.

In Acts 15 the Disciples have a counsel on whether the Gentiles should be circumcised and keep the law, then Peter stands up to address the matter. Acts 15:7-11. Here you have the apostle Peter "A Jew" saying in verse 11, we Jews shall be saved in the same manner as the Gentiles! (By faith) "He's declaring "we jews have to come to the Lord by a new covenant".

This is the new birth spoken by Jesus in John 3:5 when speaking to Nicodemus. This is that which is spoken in

Jeremiah 31:31-34.

So here we have a new birth that provides a new nature that is generated by the Holyspirit. You see aspects of this in

Romans 6:1-23. Also, this is what is meant in John 4:21-24.

Here we have the quickening spirit by the second Adam that gives life under a new covenant where the old covenant brought death to the fleshly descendants of the first Adam. 1 Corinthians 15:45-50. and 2 Corinthians 5:1-6.

Ephesians 2:1-5 sums it up.

And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins.

Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

"AGAIN We're not talking about "Justification" we're talking about sanctification. Romans 5:1-21 handles justification.

GRAFTED INTO THE VINE BY THE RESURECTION OF CHRIST.

John 15:1-5.

Romans 6:6.

Now take these chapters in order-

Romans 6:1-23.

Romans 7:1-25.

Romans 8:1-39.

We are Justified and Sanctified by the blood of Christ and given a new nature under a new covenant that bares fruit by the power of the Holyspirit.

God bless.

John 3:15-16,

Matthew 25:31-46, James 1:27,

1Peter 3:8, 1John 4:12,

2Timothy 2:15,

Hopefully these are also helpful

Hey Jennifer Zink,

Just my understanding.

Soul and spirit are two different words, but some seem to think of being the same and are hard to separate in our mind. Hebrew word nephesh meaning a soul, living being, life, self, person, desire, passion, appetite, emotion. The Greek word psuche meaning the soul, life, self, a person's distinct identity. The soul is our personality, and is made up of our mind, our emotion, and our will.

The word spirit, the Bible writers used the Hebrew word ruach meaning breath, wind, spirit, or the Greek word pneuma also meaning wind, breath, spirit. The spirit in us is our breath that is our life, and it is the part of us that can communicate with God through His Spirit, God is a Spirit John 4:24.

In our soul/who we are, us, we live according to what we think, and we practice a wide range of human emotions, and we often respond to things according to how we are feeling. We magnify ourselves, even if what we do is good, we make decisions with our will. The desires of the flesh are very tempting, the spirit of the world.

When we are born again, we are born of the Spirit in our human spirit, He comes to live in our spirit. We receive God in our spirit and magnify Him through our soul like Psalms 69:30 Luke 1:46-47. It is like we walk into a room and flip the light switch the flow of the Spirit turns on the light that shines out of our soul.

There will be daily battles of the soul/flesh and spirit, they are contrary to each other. Our spirit/conscience the recorder of all we do and think and what is written in the books. The spirit is the steering wheel of our soul. We can be like the song, Jesus take the wheel, or we can crash and burn our soul.

God bless,

RLW

The lack of Baptism submersion, doesn't appear to be an unpardonable sin.

Let's address why wouldn't someone want to be Baptized? Mark 16:16, Acts 2:38, Acts 10:48, Acts 19:2-7, Romans 6:3-13,

Is it fear that keeps one from baptism? 1John 4:18, trust? Psalms 56:11, that person may possibly be about to ask another gentle close friend in the Body of Christ to be the person submersing with people of close relation in there nearby or helping, while the Church leader prays or recites scripture. I've seen many believers like youth outreach baptize with Pastor helping. Depending on the fellowship. Matthew 28:18-20,

If the reason is medical, or because of very difficult situation. Luke 23:38-46,

Matthew 10:33, 2Timothy 2:12, Matthew 16:24, Matthew 3:13-17,

Hopefully these are all helpful

Love / Charity

1 Corinthians 13:13

1 John 4:16-12

1 John 4:8

John 3:16

* Proverbs 3:3-4: Let love and faithfulness never leave you; bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart. Then you will win favor and a good name in the sight of God and man.

* Romans 12:10: Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves.

* Genesis 2:18-25

* Isaiah 54:5: For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.

* Proverbs 30:18-19: There are three things that amaze me-no, four things that I don't understand: how an eagle glides through the sky, how a snake slithers on a rock, how a ship navigates the ocean, how a man loves a woman.

* Ruth 1:16-17: Entreat me not to leave you, Or to turn back from following after you; For wherever you go, I will go; And wherever you lodge, I will lodge; Your people shall be my people, And your God, my God. Where you die, I will die, And there will I be buried. The Lord do so to me, and more also, If anything but death parts you and me.

* 1 John 4:12: No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

* Hebrews 10:24-25: And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another-and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

* 1 Peter 4:8: Most important of all, continue to show deep love for each other, for love covers a multitude of sins.

* Ecclesiastes 4:12: Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.

* Ephesians 5:33: However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

* Proverbs 10:12: Hatred stirs up conflict, but love covers over all wrongs.

* Ruth 1:16-17: Entreat me not to leave you, Or to turn back from following after you; For wherever you go, I will go (read more)

Mishael

Ruth, you picked up a spirit of fear. He has friends named torments. Copy paste the scriptures in your Notes App on your phone or PC. Pray them out loud as often as you need to.

1 John 4:18

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment (an evil spirit) He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

2 Timothy 1:7

For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, love and of a sound mind.

1 Samuel 12:24

Only fear the LORD, and serve him in truth with all your heart: for consider how great things he has done for you.

Proverbs 19:23

The fear of the LORD leads to life: and he that hath it shall abide satisfied; he shall not be visited with evil.**

Romans 8:15 - For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

Hebrews 13:6 - So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me.

You as a Christian have the authority in Jesus Name to make these things leave you forever. So say this as often as needed:

In the Name of Jesus of Nazareth, I bind up the spirits of fear and torments and loose their bands of oppression in my life. I bind your evil works in my life. In Jesus Name and the Power of His Authority, I command you to go into outer darkness and dry places. GO NOW in Jesus Name.

I release healing, joy in my salvation, and soundness and peace over my mind__in the Name of Jesus I receive it in my born again spirit.

I am free! Hallelujah to my Lord and Savior.

A teaching by Jesus. Matthew 12: 43-44

We are to keep our house garnished with the Bible. They can't ever come back__as we are faithful to read New Testament and fill our soul and spirit with Gods Word. Our reading and prayer time takes precedence over less worthy activities.

May God bless you and carry you to happier times in your life and fellowship on here if you have time.

Love to you,

I've understood it to be similar to Simon called Peter: Matthew 4:18, Matthew 10:2, different than Acts 8:9, & Luke, Acts 10:18, Acts 13:1, Acts 13:9, Acts 14:2, notice in Acts, the same book, there are multiple names referenced even a wind, Acts 27:14, Acts 27:8, Hebrews 11:18,

Matthew 1:6 Jesus called Christ, John 4:25, Luke 6:15, John 1:42, John 11:16, not Colossians 4:11,

Romans 2:17, Romans 7:3, same supposed writer as Acts , also Romans 9:26

Matthew 26:14, Luke 23:33, John 19:13, John 19:17, Acts 6:9, Revelation 11:8,

Revelation 12:9,

Luke 2:4, Luke 8:2, John 21:2, different than Acts 9:11,

Acts 1:23, Acts 9:36,

Colossians 3:15, 1John 3:1,

Hopefully these are all helpful in your study

Hey Clois,

I will try to keep it short; this is my understanding.

We see at the end of Revelation 12 in the original text the dragon is standing on the sand and the first beast comes up out of the sea (abyss/bottomless pit). In Revelation 13 the dragon (Satan) gives this beast his seat, power, and great authority to this beast, and he makes war with the saints and overcomes them. He is given 42 months = 1260 days = 3 years. There is also in the site of this first beast another beast with two horns, the false prophet.

In Revelation 11:3 the two witnesses will prophesy 1260 days the same amount of time as the two beasts (great tribulation) the image people are made to worship, the mark to be able to buy or sell, and the killings of those that reject, (the hour of temptation).

In Revelation 11:7-8 this beast that comes out of the bottomless pit kills the two witnesses in the "city which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt," (Jerusalem). This same beast we see in Revelation 9 and Revelation 17.

In Revelation, there are three the dragon (Satan), the first beast, and the false prophet (the second beast). If we go by the description of antichrist the only place in the bible given by John in 1 John 2:18,22 1 John 4:3 and 1 John 1:7 there are billions, not just one.

Hope this helps,

God bless,

RLW

Many great comments from brothers but the the information you gave us dear Dav is valuable. Something similar to that happens with the greek for fear (phobos). Although it means fear and only fear, there is this feeling that in the Gospel when refering to God it means to honour, to respect God as a person superiour than everybody else who has power, and to love him as a father. Most probably Paul, a Jew himself, just translated into greek what he had in mind in Jewish.

I also liked Ronald's statement "We should have a sense of awe and respect for the majesty of God (and simultameously) the Father" Beautiful statement.

But I would also like to add:

1 John 4:16-19

"And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.

Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.

THERE IS NO FEAR IN LOVE, BUT PERFECT LOVE CASTETH OUT FEAR: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

We love him, because he first loved us."

We don't want yo fear God? Then increase in love (For him and everybody else)

GBU

1 John 4:10 kjv: Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and

sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

I John 5:13 -14 kjv: These things have I written unto you that believe on the name

of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and

that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. And this is the

confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask anything according

to his will, he heareth us.

Ephesians 6:24 kjv: Grace be with all them that love our Lord Jesus Christ in

sincerity. Amen.

Sons of GOD : Genesis 6:2, Job 1:6, Job 2:1, Job 38:7, Revelation 12:10, John 1:12 "But as many as receive him, to them gave he power to become the sons of GOD, even to them that believe on his name:"

Romans 8:14 "For as many as are led by the Spirit of GOD, they are the sons of GOD."

Philippians 2:15 "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of GOD, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world."

1John 3:1 "Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of GOD: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not."

Matthew 5:16, Luke 8:19, Matthew 23:9, John 20:17, John 4:23, John 16:28, Matthew 6:7-34 did you notice how many times GOD is referenced as "our, your Father " in that portion of chapter 6? Matthew 7:11,

Mark 3:33-35,

1John 3, Romans 8:29,

Contrast = John 8:41-47, 1John 2:23, Matthew 3:9

Hopefully these are all helpful in your study

Brothers in Christ,

I truly understand each one's point of view. If I may share my thoughts that made me know I am saved.

I read the entire animal blood sacrifices in the Old Testament for the atonement of sins and sanctification ( cleansed or washed away sins). Then one day I realized that the greatest gift our generation could ever received was the blood of Jesus Christ, ( a parallel sacrifice for our generation) to be our propitiation ( i.e. an act of appeasing wrath). I could have been put to death for my own sins, but instead Jesus Christ took upon himself my sins and others to save me and all of us from the wrath of God and give us an eternal/ everlasting life. Then make us live in the Kingdom of God here on earth.

1 John 4:10

Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

Romans 3:25

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

1 John 2:2

And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

Then I realized I have to keep that Holy Spirit in me. I cannot explain how I started to read the Bible like my life depends on it. This happened on 11/11/21 when I know I was saved.

Since I was young I know I have some peculiar things happenings to me. I cannot explained them, but now I understood the God given gift of discernment. That is why at such a young age I made God as my best friend. People will say or do something that I know in my heart was wrong. I cannot explain then, but now God made it clear to me.

In conclusion, Jesus Christ is in me. I know.

Galatians 2:20

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

Hi Don.

Here's a interesting article from koinonia House.

Part 1

In my experience, it is the most commonly asked question by honest skeptics: "If God is real, if God is personal, if God loves us, why does God allow evil?" A proper understanding of this issue not only provides great insight into the nature of God, it ties together a comprehensive understanding to some of life's ultimate questions: the answers to my origin, meaning, morality and destiny!

Email from A Skeptic

The question of evil was brought into clearer focus in an email I recently received from a skeptic:

The Christian worldview is an impractical, even phony, view of the Cosmos because it embraces a God who is either incapable of stopping evil and suffering, and he is therefore not omnipotent, or is unwilling to do so and therefore a devil!

The skeptic's point is well taken because the Bible states that one of God's attributes is love. "He who does not love does not know God, for God is love." (I John 4:8) In the book of Romans, Paul the Apostle stated that the invisible attributes of God "are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead."1

However, what the skeptic is saying, in effect, is this: "If your God is love, I see no evidence of that attribute in creation. All the death, disease, pain and suffering seems to be out of place if this God of yours is love. Surely an all-powerful God could, and a loving God would, eliminate all evil. Since evil exists, then no such God exists."

To answer this objection we need to examine some principles of logic, the nature of God, the nature of man, the nature of love and the nature of evil.

See Part 2.