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  • Dianne - In Reply on John 4 - 5 years ago
    The bible I.E. the scriptures are the only writings which testify of the Messiah and how man should believe in God and what man should believe spiritually, that you can take to the bank.
  • Equipping the Saints on Ezra 6 - 5 years ago
    HOW ARE YOU FOLLOWING JESUS

    Read about "the Spiritual Man" by Watchman Nee: its weighty, but thoroughly explains the inner workings of the flesh, our souls and the spirit (which is made alive) upon being born again and sealed by the Holy Spirit.

    The Godhead is made up of 3 distinct persons. We are born of flesh and soul. When we receive Jesus as Savior and Lord, our spirits are made alive to God.

    The Holy Spirit tells us about Jesus. In chapters 16-17

    That's why it's paramount to build up our inner most selves on reading the Bible. Why not begin reading in the New Testament?

    I did a study just in the Gospels about the dynamics between Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit; the Apostles; and you can see how the Body of Christ is to operate as a unit; one Body.

    The Old Testament can be accessed to see the prophesies that have been fulfilled, or the few that are being fulfilled now.

    We are to be involved in EQUIPPING the Saints of God for the Lord to have available; disciples to work in this End Time Harvest.

    We are to be His Body that sees, hears, teaches and preaches what we have learned; TO THOSE THAT ARE PERISHING !

    Has anybody memorized the link out on the Red Section that has the Link: How TO Become A Christian??

    Where is The Spirit of John the Baptist? Calling people to repent and be born again?

    Do you know enough to lead them in a prayer for salvation? Point them to a Church that possesses the pure milk of the Word? 1 Peter2:2

    1 Corinthians Chapter 3

    1 And I, brethren, could NOT speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

    2 I have fed you with MILK and not with MEAT: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it; NEITHER NOW are ye able.

    3 For ye are yet CARNAL: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

    John 4:34

    JESUS saith unto them, My MEAT is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work
  • Sacha - In Reply on John 4 - 5 years ago
    The Bible contains a HUGE amount of truth ,Jesus is aaall over the old testament ,if i ever think that i have completely understood and fully appreciated the Bible in aaall its truth and perfect beauty i might have a look at some other religious books too but my guess is it will take me my whole life of regular reading to realy appreciate it and i will still have not fully understood everything ,the Bible is a very very deep well of wisdom and love and truth ,its more than enugh for me to be getting on with for the rest of my life .
  • Bahss - In Reply on John 4 - 5 years ago
    Thats only for the new testament. Im making a claim for books outsude of the testaments. I.e. we can have the new and old testament as the bible. But why not have another area of texts where we can interpret the word lf God through other cultures? After all, they are inspired by God to some extent too right? Its not like God chose the middle east to be the source of all wisdom. Surely then it is up to us to seek the word of God in areas other than the bible without throwing the bible away obviously
  • Adam - In Reply on John 4 - 5 years ago
    Hello, the Bible is a collection of books that were considered canon, or inspired by God. To be deemed as such it had to meet rigid criteria. You can easily search in a few seconds what criteria was used for canon.
  • Bahss on John 4 - 5 years ago
    Why is it believed that only the Bible is the word of God? After all, it is compiled by the Church - not by God directly. So, as followers of Christ, should we not look to include external texts to help ourselves to understand God? Jesus told his own wisdom on his own authority - to be like Christ would mean to do the same, no? We should not reject the wisdom and truth in the bible but i believe we should always be trying to expand upon it. Just as science helps us to undrrstand God's creation, non-biblical texts or so-called 'pagan' religions can also help us understand God right?
  • BSP on John 4 - 5 years ago
    Verse 34-By giving the answer at John 4:34 Jesus showed that he really felt nourished and strengthened by doing God's work
  • Robert Malit - In Reply on Susanna 1 - 5 years ago
    Ephesians 4:30 30And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

    Most of us grieves the Holy Spirit = when we disobey our Lord, the Holy Spirit is burden with sorrow, so it cannot blend or unite with our human spirit. When we: lie, even white lies but don't repent, gossip, spread false doctrine, judge others, unkind or ungodly thoughts, finding faults with others, blaming others for our mistakes, anger and being deceitful, manipulating others to get your ways, self-justification, adultery, fornication, stubbornness, prideful, refuse to speak to family members, homosexuality, others.



    1 John 2:15 - 16 15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

    Here are four specific examples of situations in which the disciples didn't "get it," Holy Spirit not in them.

    In John 4:31-34, the disciples encouraged Jesus to eat, and He replied, "I have food to eat of which you do not know." Jesus' closest followers thought their Master was referring to physical food, so He explained to them, "My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to finish His work."

    Matthew and Mark report that Jesus taught His hearers that certain things coming out of an individual defile him or her, not specific, forbidden foods that enter into a person or failing to perform a ritual such as hand washing. The disciples asked for an explanation. Jesus gently rebuked them and explained real problems arose from "evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness." Every one of "these evil things," He said, "come from within and defile a man" ( Mark 7:21-23).

    This can happen to us today, if and when we grieve the Holy Spirit.
  • Dianne - In Reply on John 4:54 - 5 years ago
    Leslie this is my understanding Christ will appear for His Church the Body of Christ and gather it together thessalonians then the book of revelation where at the end all will be raised from the dead and face Gods Judgement, now remember I said thats what I understand but trust me there are a lot of different ideas on this. But remember we who believed and have been made righteous in Gods eyes are spiritually perfect, no judgement day, I.E. terminator Smiles.
  • The Harvest - In Reply on John 4:54 - 5 years ago
    If you use the SEARCH BOX on this website, you will see for yourself what the Bible says about a/any subject. No matter denomination, persuasion: you rely on what the scriptures say.

    LORD OF THE HARVEST

    "For unsaved loved ones, it takes rock solid faith in Jesus (unmovable), to pray for the Lord of the Harvest to send laborers into the paths of your resistant relatives.

    He arranges divine appointments for people to hear the gospel of Jesus Christ with the convicting power of the Holy Spirit.

    They, with the Father, CREATED all we see and know. Is there anything too hard for the Lord? In REVELATION there is a scene of Jesus with a sickle, reaping the Harvest.

    Get in on this! Pray for these stubborn relatives, loved ones, belligerent teenagers; even the old, the drugged up; the angry at life, everybody! Even perfect strangers.

    Christ-like Love should drive you to your knees, often if not every day. Budget one hour to do serious business in your prayer life. Pray for LABORERS TO BE SENT.

    This is called, love and obedience to the known will of God. Jesus is the Lord of the Harvest. Sitting at the right hand of God, making intercession for all saints. Ask and receive. Keep your faith fixed on Jesus only.

    PRAY TO THE LORD OF THE HARVEST.

    " Matthew 9:37

    Then saith he unto his disciples, The harvest truly is plenteous, but the labourers are few;

    Pray ye therefore the Lord of the harvest, that he will send forth labourers into his harvest.

    Matthew 13:30

    Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into MY BARN.

    Matthew 13:39

    The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels."

    Joel 3:13

    Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great.

    Mark 4:29
  • Confessing Jesus on Revelation 2 - 5 years ago
    Matthew 10:32

    Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.

    Luke 12:8

    Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God:

    Romans 10:9

    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

    1 John 4:15

    Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.

    John 12:42

    Nevertheless among the chief rulers also many believed on him; but because of the Pharisees they did not confess him, lest they should be put out of the synagogue:

    Romans 14:11

    For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.

    Philippians 2:11

    And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    2 John 1:7

    For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

    Revelation 3:5

    He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

    Romans 15:9

    And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.

    John 9:22

    These words spake his parents, because they feared the Jews: for the Jews had agreed already, that if any man did confess that he was Christ, he should be put out of the synagogue.

    1 John 1:9

    If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
  • Mild Bill - In Reply on John 4:54 - 5 years ago
    Leslie,Your confusion is from lack of Bible knowledge,right?In all honesty,whatever your are told,even here on this site, you need to confirm for yourself from the scriptures. God speaks to us from his word,and you have done well to come here.The 1000yrs is likely a reference to the millennial kingdom,which is yet to exist on Earth.It is not a "reset",but it is a fullfilment of a promise to the nation of Israel.

    Now,more importantly,how to search the Bible for yourself at this site.In the search window you can type in any word and the site will list each instance of use.Once the page opens with the list of locations where the word is used,you can then limit the search to one of four options,all,old,new or apocrypha.In my opinion,only the first three are useful and apocrypha is very questionable as to being biblical at all.A hardcopy/book that performs,as this site,is called a concordance.Three concordances that already exist are the Strong's, Young's and Cruden's,and again my opinion is,that Strong's will suit you best,in that it is ready to further your word searches by listing references to the original languages of Hebrew and Greek.

    Since you refer to yourself as "strict",I suspect that you have an opinion of salvation,that it is something you do that gets you to heaven.And since you are a sinner,as is every other person,except Jesus,you need complete forgiveness from God,to enter heaven.To become a saved person,the Bible teaches that you must trust that,in his dying on the cross,Jesus paid all your debt of sin,all your sins,past,present and future.It is by the grace of God that this is made known to you.You must speak to God,and you will,by his grace,recieve a personal understanding from him,as to what his son did for you on the cross.If he truly has forgiven you,it is for eternity.Your trust in him to save you must be sincere,and it will be tested as your old nature will resist changes he will make in you.read 2Timothy 2:15 U R in my prayers.May God bless U.
  • Leslie Penrod on John 4:54 - 5 years ago
    I was raised strict Protestant, and I have never heard of this, but please help me to know if I have heard from a false prophet, or if I misunderstood. I am being told of a second harvest, in which christ returns for what some are referring to as "the second harvest", in which I am told is his second return, after 2000 years, for what some are referring to as "the great reset", and that he resets the world for 1000 years before returning for the final time. Is this in any way valid? I'm confused.
  • Adam - In Reply on Deuteronomy 18 - 5 years ago
    Robert, I literally quoted the Bible and broke it down to word for word detail, but instead you call me a 'twister' which seems like a disrespectful thing to say to someone. Instead actually sharing evidence yourself it seems you dodge and talk about other things to justify your belief. What if the Bible is right and you're interpretation is incorrect? What if you're actually the "twister"?

    1 John 5:7 - is so simple a child can understand what it means. I know what it means. Do you? Have you prayed about it with an open heart and asked God to reveal His truth to you?

    1 John 4:3 - The Bible says someone who doesn't believe Jesus is from God has the spirit of the anti Christ. That is a very serious matter.

    Have you looked up these verses and prayed about this?
  • Rod - In Reply on Habakkuk 2:9 - 5 years ago
    This is why it is so important to read our bible KJV on a daily basis, starting with the NT, because when we read the bible, it brings forth a message of mercy, love, joy, peace, longsuffering, and so on, these are the fruits of the Spirit, this is some of the messaging that you should hear when listening to anyone, let alone a so called prophet, if you don't, don't follow him. not promoting anyone, but I like to listen to Billy Graham on y tube on a regular basis, he was a man that would quote scripture and then go on to explain it in a very simple way. Galatians chapter 5 is a good read where Paul explains the fruits of the flesh and the fruits of the Spirit, that should help answer your question, but read the entire NT. I hope this helps you in your journey

    1 John 4:1 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

    Galatians 5:17 "For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would."
  • Adam - In Reply on Psalms 92 - 5 years ago
    The answer to your question is in 1 John 4:1-3. Spirits from God will acknowledge Jesus Christ. God bless...
  • Alex on John 4 - 5 years ago
    Comments by Alex about water baptism and baptism of the H.G. the gift of God. Jesus told the Woman at the Well of 2 kinds of water 1 was Jacobs well but the other was the gift of God that living water which is the H.G. That Jesus describes as a well of water springing up unto everlasting life . Jesus said that whosoever drinks of this water, Jacobs well ( water baptism ) shall thirst again.Our thirst for salvation is not fully quenched by water baptism you will thirst Again. But the gift of God which is H.G. BAPTISM is like a well of WATER springing up unto everlasting life . Remember when JESUS SPOKE OF LIVING WATER jOHN said this he speak of the SPIRIT for the H.G was not yet given b/c that Christ was not yet glorfied . And Jesus refers to the baptism of the H.G as the baptism of PROMISE, Behold i send the PROMISE of my father upon you which was baptism of the H.G everlasting life etc. But what is this baptism of PROMISE, ITS SIMPLY THE MULTIPLCATION OF Christ in humanity VIA HIS GOOD SEED the GIFT of God A BABY CHRIST,THAT CHILD OF PROMISE THAT LIVING WATER . That was the great Promise i will multiply thy Seed ( his word ) as the stars of heaven,thus the babes and the suckling he mentions are truly the result of that heavenly Promise ,The ISRAEL OF GOD, That are gona be born in US SINNERS. Unless you receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in ( the new birth ) Remember when Pharoahs daughter came to wash she found a Child Hid in the Nile, MOSES MEANING DRAWN FROM THE WATERS Synbolic of a baby Christ we draw from the baptism of the H.G. THE RIVER OF LIFE. the H.G. tHE CHILD OF PROMISE. k later
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply on John 3 - 5 years ago
    Hello Brooke,

    I like your question because it is the same thing I used to think. In my belief. Once you are saved by the Lord Jesus Christ and have a personal relationship with God there is no more need to fear Him. As pure love, for Him, will take over and your entire life with everything you do surrounds Him. In living your life after the foot steps of Christ. Living a life that makes God happy. After repentance from things of this world and living a life of Holiness, grace, and truth. Actually doing our best seriously to stay away from the sins of this world because that is what makes God happy.

    Another way to look at it is the Hebrew word "yirah" for "fear" can also mean "respect, reverence, or piety". Hopefully people won't take this the wrong way and that I don't think there should be fear of God. As one of the verses states, that Adam posted, how God is Almighty and can destroy the body and soul of the evil and wicked. Sometimes fear is what may drive people toward God. Of coarse you have to believe in Him first which is a big problem in this world today.

    So if you truly have an intimate relationship with God. There is no need to fear Him as love overcomes fear. Of coarse your respect and reverence for Him will be through your love. Living your life for Him. Your true love will shine to Him. Here's a couple verses you may like. God Bless you sister.

    Psalms 31:23

    Psalms 91

    Psalms 97:10

    Psalms 145:20

    Proverbs 8:7

    2 Timothy 1:7

    2 Corinthians 7:1

    1 John 4:7-19. All of, 1 John is a good book on the love of God.
  • Weaver - In Reply on 1 John 4 - 5 years ago
    1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is the spirit of the antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is in the world.
  • Scriptures on GodGodhead - In Reply on Ephesians 5:9 - 5 years ago
    This is what I know. God is a spirit and a consuming fire. Jesus is fully God and fully man. The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Christ

    The Holy Spirit is invisible.

    King James Bible

    Hebrews 12:29

    For our God is a consuming fire.

    Deuteronomy 4:24

    For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.

    John 4:24

    God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    John 15:26

    But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

    The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. Three persons: all are one God.

    Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

    Isaiah 6:8

    Romans 1:20

    Colossians 2:9

    Acts 17:27-30

    1 John 5:7

    John 10:30

    Maybe you'd like to add a KJV Bible to your bookcase?

    Blessings, Mishael
  • THE HOLINESS OF GOD on Psalms 80 - 5 years ago
    From the writings of the Rev. Billy Graham

    Admittedly it is hard to understand many things in Scripture, but it is not because Scripture is wrong; it is because mankind is made up of weak and imperfect people, unable to scarcely grasp the overwhelming perfection and holiness of God.

    We have become so used to sin that we can't imagine anyone being absolutely perfect. But God is! Because God is holy, He never does wrong-ever.

    God's holiness is righteous and pure. The Bible says, "Your eyes are too pure to look on evil; you cannot tolerate wrongdoing" ( Habakkuk 1:13). Certainly, God notices evil and condemns it. The passage is clarifying that He will NOT look upon evil and tolerate it. He will indeed judge sin, and doing evil is sin.

    The Bible says that all have sinned and fall short of God's glory ( Romans 3:23). We stand guilty and condemned before Him, worthy only of His judgment and condemnation.

    Apart from Christ and His work on the cross, we have no hope of Heaven, because even one sin contaminates us and makes us unfit to come into God's presence. We must never take the holiness and judgment of God lightly, for it is the very essence of His character.

    But God is also the God of love (1 John 4:8). This makes all the difference. Behind every dealing God has with us is His perfect love. It was love that caused Him to create us, and it was love that caused Him to send His Son to REDEEM US. His love pursues us and draws us to Himself, and His love will someday take those who believe in Him into His presence forever.

    God says to us, "I have loved you with an everlasting love" ( Jeremiah 31:3).

    Mishael: ought we not to accept so great

    A salvation? I see the violence we do to each other, on the free news, and it's makes me feel sick that we are so capable of hurting each other; and not even thinking about it later.

    The terror of it, is that the end will not come swiftly like a huge asteroid strike. It's going to happen like birth pains.
  • Chris - In Reply on Proverbs 2 - 5 years ago
    Hi Nancy, since I wrote to you on this matter, I will respond again. As we know, that "God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." ( John 4:24). That is, God in His Essence is a Spiritual Being without a body as we know. And in His fullness, He has shown to us His Word & His Spirit that are Him & proceed from Him. The Word we know was given a Body for the purposes of bringing God's Message to His people & to lay down His Life for mankind ( John 1:1-14; 3:16). God's Spirit was sent out of God's Being to accomplish His Purposes on Earth, including the indwelling of the believer, returns back to God when God's Will has been fully accomplished on Earth.

    Even though I can't give you any clear Scripture to show God withdrawing His Spirit back into Himself, we have to surmise in our understanding of all of revealed Scripture we have, that as God sends out His Word & His Spirit, He must also withdraw them when His Work is done. Romans 8:26,27 tells us that the Holy Spirit helps us in our prayers, when we are ignorant on how to pray or what to pray. And it says that the Spirit helps us by lifting our 'deficient, uninformed' prayers to the Father, with His 'groans' or 'utterances' which we don't perceive. This the Spirit does because of His constant connection to the Godhead (as even Jesus had & enjoyed on Earth), & He is well able to translate our prayers into valid utterances that conform to the Will of God. But there are times that we ask (from the flesh) outside of God's Will (see James 4:3) & our prayers go no further than our ceiling.

    So when the Spirit returns to God at the appointed time, we can't conclude that the Spirit will not again be sent out to fulfil another purpose of God. Where we fail in our understanding is that, since as humans we can't do what God does, so we conclude, that God can't do it either. Just as our spirits return to God Who gave it ( Ecclesiastes 12:7), so will His Holy Spirit return to the Godhead.
  • Chris - In Reply on John 1 - 5 years ago
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    The Holy Spirit resides in all who have come to faith in Jesus Christ ( John 14:17) & also convicts men of sin, of righteousness & (coming) judgement. ( John 16:7-11). So the Spirit is still working in the World until the appointed time when He is taken away (some argue as to when that time will be). The Son has now returned to the Father (back into the God folder), but He is distinct in that He is now God in the flesh, not as only the Word, but as the Son who has performed all that was required of Him on Earth & now at the Father's right Hand in Heaven ( Hebrews 7:25). In the human mind this is a difficult concept to grasp & that is why you are having difficulties. If you want to understand God in a human perspective, it won't work because we don't have anything on this Earth that can adequately compare to Him & our minds don't work in any other way. But do we say then that because we don't believe that such a Trinity can exist, therefore it's impossible for God to be such? I think then, that it's us who have the problem in understanding the Character of God & not the Doctrine.

    Yes, illustrating the Trinity to man's trinitarian composition, is 'problematic': no illustration can adequately do the job, but I felt compelled to use it to try & help you understand, but that didn't work. And lastly, God is Spirit ( John 4:24), the Word was part of that Spirit, & the Holy Spirit was sent out into the World. So we only knew & heard God as Spirit in the OT. After Jesus ascended into Heaven, we see the (visible) God in Jesus, but we also know that God is still there ( Revelation 8:2 & about 3,000 other verses to prove it). God hasn't disappeared & Jesus has not taken His place. So please look into this & see where your theology has become skewed or maybe you are under some false teaching. May the Lord give you light on this very important matter.
  • Chris - In Reply on 1 John 4 - 5 years ago
    There's no verse to say we must 'believe' in the Deity of Christ, but there are ample verses to show the Deity of Christ, as has been given in other discussions with you Rob.

    However, since you mentioned 1 John 4:15 showing "Jesus as the Son of God", let's not forget verses 2 & 3, "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."

    If you've done a study of 1 John, you would have seen that Gnostic teaching was rife & intruding into the Church, hence this urgent epistle by John. There are many facets to Gnosticsm & one branch, Docetism, had this devilish teaching that "the incarnation is incredible because Deity cannot unite itself with anything material, such as a body". Hence John gave out this urgent & stern warning as we read in verses 1-3 to always "test the spirits whether they are of God, because false prophets (& specifically the teachers holding to Gnostic beliefs) are gone out into the world".

    And how would the believers know how to discern which spirit was speaking? John says, It is "God's Spirit (through the teacher) that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh". Did these false teachers deny the physical Jesus? No. Jesus' presence on Earth was both an historical & real experience that none could deny. The denial came when that physical Body was taught to be united to God since it was impossible for God, so Holy & Pure, to join Himself with anything of the flesh. John clarifies that this is the evil coming forth from such spirits that want to lessen the full value & beauty of Jesus coming as God's Son from God, by simply confining Him to a fleshly existence. Some even proposed that only a spiritual Jesus was on Earth & the Crucifixion was effected by just a man.
  • Chris - In Reply on John 1 - 5 years ago
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    In the Court of God, all men are guilty of sin & have to pay the penalty. In the court of man, we pay for our crimes & we are then released, but with God our payment can only lead to an eternal separation from God with no possibility of release. How can Jesus then say in John 3:16, "God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son"? Does His Love extend to just another sacrifice that was no better than the former? Or, does His Love speak to us in this way: 'because no sacrifice could pay for your sins, I provided the Sacrifice that would fully meet My demands of justice & full payment - Myself'. This was the only Sacrifice possible - all others have failed & would fail.

    Back to 1 John 4:3. Men in Jesus' day knew Who Jesus was: a man, his mother Mary & (supposed) father, Joseph. Even today, most would not deny an historical Jesus Who walked the Earth. So John is not speaking of that Jesus, as a man ("come in the flesh"), but from & of God. That spirit of anti-Christ, just as the final anti-Christ still to come, will deny the divinity of Jesus but will seek to replicate His humanity through power, signs & wonders.

    If one is to deny Christ His Deity, then one has to go to much pain to deny the Spirit His Deity. But if forced only to accept God the Father & His Spirit as One, then one would subscribe to a Binity God & that won't work either. It is safest to say that God expressed Himself by His Word & by His Spirit. His Word went to the prophets to bring God's Message to His people. "But in these last days hath spoken to us by His Son" ("the Word (God's Word) was made flesh & dwelt among us") Heb 1:2; Jn 1:14.
  • Chris - In Reply on John 1 - 5 years ago
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    Hi again Hugo, I feel compelled to write again but won't repeat the pertinent accurate comments that Adam has given you. Have you seen this Scripture?

    1 John 4:3: "And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."

    Here is a warning by the apostle John to all his readers & this was given in the midst of gnostic thought that was intruding into the Church. Gnosticsm has many facets, but the one seen here is: "the incarnation (i.e. God coming in the form of man) is incredible because Deity cannot unite itself with anything material, such as a body" (also referred to as Docetism). John is saying that the spirit behind the one who proclaims that Jesus Christ is simply just a good, perfect Man speaks by the spirit of anti-Christ & not of God. This is hard for me to say this to you given our past conversation, but the Word is clear & specific.

    Because the Nature of God is hard to understand & sometimes likened to the pantheistic religions of the world, doesn't mean that our interpretation has evolved from them. Even if we break this down further: would a redemptive, substitutionary Sacrifice even be possible by a separate created Being from God? If it didn't work by using spotless animals as sacrifice in the past, it wouldn't work by a new creation of human. Why should God create a new human for the purpose of sacrifice? He could have done perfectly well with animal sacrifices & with faith in our offering & in God's acceptance of it, we should be in right standing before Him.
  • Chris - In Reply on 1 John 4 - 5 years ago
    1 John 4:20, "If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?" In this verse, the word "brother" (Gk. adelphos) refers to one in the community of believers.

    However, in other references the word can be expanded to mean all fellow men (e.g. Matthew 22:39, "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."). A different word used here (Gk. plesion), but in the spirit of Christian love, we are to show love also to those whom we come across in our life's journey.

    And of course, we can demonstrate love in many ways - in fact, we should go out of our way to see that our brother or sister in Christ, or our unsaved neighbours are well cared for both spiritually & physically, making their lives more easy & enjoyable & thus having the witness of God's love shown to them. How can the unsaved ever understand Who God is unless they find visible proof in those who profess to have God in them? How can their hearts & ears ever open to the Good News unless they become genuinely inquisitive to a type of love they have not known? If done for the unsaved, then how much more we need to be to those in the faith, showing a love & care that goes beyond carnal human desires or abilities.
  • HOW ARE YOU FOLLOWING JESUS on Acts 2:38 - 5 years ago
    read about "the Spiritual Man" by Watchman Nee: its weighty, but thoroughly explains the inner workings of the flesh, our souls and the spirit (which is made alive) upon being born again and sealed by the Holy Spirit.

    The Godhead is made up of 3 distinct persons. We are born of flesh and soul. When we receive Jesus as Savior and Lord, our spirits are made alive to God.

    The Holy Spirit tells us about Jesus. JN chapters 16-17

    That's why it's paramount to build up our inner most selves on reading the Bible. Why not begin reading in the New Testament?

    I did a study just in the Gospels about the dynamics between Jesus, the Father, the Holy Spirit; the Apostles; and you can see how the Body of Christ is to operate as a unit...one Body. It keeps you focused.

    The Old Testament can be accessed to see the prophesies that have been fulfilled, or the few that are being fulfilled now.

    We are to be involved in EQUIPPING the Saints of God for the Lord to have available; disciples to work in this End Time Harvest.

    We are to be His Body that sees, hears, teaches and preaches what we have learned; TO THOSE THAT ARE PERISHING !

    Has anybody memorized the link out on the Red Section that has the Link: How TO Become A Christian??

    Where is The Spirit of John the Baptist? Calling people to repent and be born again?

    Do you know enough to lead them in a prayer for salvation? Point them to a Church that possesses the pure milk of the Word?

    1 Corinthians Chapter 3

    1 And I, brethren, could NOT speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

    2 I have fed you with MILK and not with MEAT: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it; NEITHER NOW are ye able.

    3 For ye are yet CARNAL: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?

    John 4:34

    JESUS saith unto them, My MEAT is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.

    Mishael
  • Ss on Genesis 3 - 5 years ago
    John 4:24

    God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth
  • Mishael on Halloween Confusion on Genesis 1 - 5 years ago
    Scriptures for any who are tempted to get into the spirit of Halloween. Hint: it is not a Christian holiday.

    From these scriptures it looks to me like it is an opening forspiritsto step into our world.

    Romans 12:21

    Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

    1 John 4:4

    Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

    Luke 11:22

    But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.

    2 Peter 2:19

    While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

    I asked my kid what it was he liked most about Halloween: he said CANDY. We went to the store and he got 20.00 to get the good stuff. Nothing in a Halloween wrappers.

    We had a pumpkin fight in the backyard. Slime seeds everywhere. Everyone liked that.

    Then we watched Dennis the Menace and ate pizza till 8.

    Don't confuse your kids that it's ok to have fun with the devil one day a year. People won't ring your doorbell if the light is off.


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