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Angela, people's salvation is the most important to me. Please let me share with you where I stand on salvation. I will have to break this up in order to explain my position. I am one of those that strongly believe that salvation cannot be lost. Emphasis on the ability to save has been shifted in recent years from God to man. As a result, the permanency of salvation has been called into question quite frequently. Many believe you can lose it, and many believe you can't.

For me, I have to ask myself who am I trusting? Am I trusting in myself to keep myself saved, or am I trusting God's promise to keep me saved? My salvation is based solely on God's Spirit coming into my spirit, causing me to become a new creation, a new person. My experience of regeneration by the Holy Spirit is an act of God, not of myself. I would have never came to Christ if God the Father did not first draw me to Him. The salvation process begins with God the Father ( John 6:44).

Gwen,

Jesus said in John 6:40, "And this is the will of Him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Everybody that the Father draws to Christ will come. And everybody that comes to the Son and receives Him, Jesus will not lose a single one.

2 Peter 3:9 says that the Lord is not willing that any should perish.

For those who receive Christ, what He expects from us is faithfulness. We are to humble ourselves before Him, submit to His will in our lives, and be transformed by the renewing of our minds. Jesus gave us the command deny ourselves, take up our cross daily, and follow Him. ( James 4:7-10, Romans 12:2, Matthew 16:24). Submitting ourselves to God's transformation process, and allowing Him to renew our minds through a continuous study of His word, is the acceptable, and perfect will of God for us. ( Romans 12:2).

Success is a simple matter that is repeated over and over again

What was the Miracle Of Astounding Proportions? - Matthew 14:15-21; Mark 6:35-44: Like 9:12-17; John 6:5-14. Jesus words in ( Matthew 14:16) carried a higher spiritual cogitation; He is the 'Bread of Life', therefore, the Body of Christ is to be fed regarding the Word of God. God has an order and method by which His heavenly Blessings are divinely distributed. Reading from verse 19 of Matthew 14: (He took, He blessed, He did break, and He gave to the Disciples - that is His order with Believers as well). One of the divine Principles of Breaking Limits is ALWAYS to give 'Thanks' (cf. John 6:11). It is from God whence all blessings come. We must ever seek His Face for leading an.

Sorry, Alex, but that is rank heresy. Jesus' words did not make them gods, that's similar to Mormonism or the Faith heresy's "little gods" theory and there is not one ounce of scriptural support for this. Not one. Jesus is the second person of the Trinity, the Son, the incarnation who through his life of perfect obedience obtained the merit we couldn't, and through his death and suffering took the punishment we deserve. Jesus obtained our SALVATION, not DEIFICATION. Eph 2:8-9, John 3:16-18, Romans 3. Grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone.

But that's the thing, Biblical Salvation is contrary to your interpretation: John3:15-16 John3:18 John3:36 John5:24 John 6:40 John6:47 Acts16:31 and Acts10:43 are all verses that plainly explain how to be saved. There's no question, the Bible is clear that any who simply believe on Jesus has everlasting life. In fact, they clearly say we "receive the remission of sins" we "Shall not perish" we are "not condemned" and we "HAVE eternal life" all by believing on Jesus. Nowhere in any of these verses is Baptism mentioned as a requirement. Even in 1Corinth.15:3-4 the clearest definition of the Gospel doesn't even talk about Baptism. You have Gods word that you will be saved if you just believe.

No Baptism is not a requirement to be saved. We are told again and again in the Bible that the man who trusts in Christ has everlasting life immediately.
John 3:36 says:
"He that believeth on the Son HATH everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him." Same in John 5:24 and John 6:47. We are saved by grace well before we even touch the water.
And since grace means a free undeserved gift, any act or commitment intended to merit salvation is necessarily excluded ( Rom. 11:6). Understand all men are saved the same way, by believing on Jesus. That's why the thief on the cross could go to Heaven despite not being baptized.

John 1:1-14, John 6:33, John 6:35-40, John 6:46-51,
Mathew 16:15-19
Luke 22:67-71
John 8:58 -59 some teach this scripture here is where Jesus declares he is " I AM" the name of God given to Moses in Genesis
Hopefully that helps your searching for truth :)

Rev. 9:20-21 we are to distant ourselves from today's prosperity gospel and repent and return to The LORD our heavenly Father. Let our focus be on the Gospel of the Kingdom Jesus Christ preached and taught us. These men are the so called idols of gold, and silver... The people of God are dying and are been ensnared by their sorceries... Jesus said in John 14:17, Even The Spirit of Truth whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, neither knoweth Him: but ye know Him for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. John 6:45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of The Father, cometh to Me.

I like both but especially the Aposel Paul's Messages they have Meat like others who share God's Truth on this Website.

Jesus is the life of bread because He is not Manna also a Mediator absolute of God and absolute of Man and representative of Heaven and Earth He is a PACKAGE for our life.

I appreciate you continue in manner and more brief for believers Thank you!

Jesus said my Words are SPIRIT AND LIFE and we see that so clearly when the H.G fell on them that heard his Word, thus his WORDS are the seeds of God,to whom his WORDS came it made them GODS. And the scriptures cannot be broken.God is spirit and life.He is able to propagate very GOD WITH HIS SEEDS HIS WORDS To whom HIS word came it made them Gods. The original PROMISE WAS MULTIPLCATION OF GOD

God and his Word are two seperate things as he was not carnal like you and I. He used words to create things. Jesus said in Luke 8:11 the word is a seed. God the Father of Jesus spoke words and Mary got pregnant. God created things in the beginning by speaking words. The world was created by speaking words. Jesus spoke words which are spirit and life John 6:63. Jesus never spike his own words.

It is not God allowing it, it is your ownself by not getting in the bible and building up faith of the words of the bible. Once faith that comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God Romans 10:17 comes into your life. Your sin will be washed away and pain and suffering will be gone with your sin. The words of the bible are spirit and life John 6:63. All sin is of the devil period.Give up sin

Hi Thomas, that's great that you're reading the Bible and seeking God's truth. Why not just ask God through prayer for wisdom and discernment to know what you should take literally? It's true that Jesus often spoke using parables which are allegorical stories to influence and make a point. There are obvious metaphors in the Bible too: John 6:54 - we don't literally eat Jesus' flesh and blood, etc.

In Jesus name amen

John 6: 28 - 29 Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

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John 6:70 Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil? This devil is a person, who steals and who will betray the Lord Jesus Christ.

John 6:44-45.God DRAWS His children to HIM.If you believe Me ,Obey Me,Love Me you will have Everlasting Life

Trident K-9, here are some Chapters and Verses that will help with your question. 2 Peter 3:9 - John 6:35-36-37.

1 cor 13 for now we see through a glass darkly, one day we will see clearly and begin to understand..

It's a Picture of The Rapture. The Dead in Christ will be Removed. The Door is Closed. No More Salvation.There's No Such thing as a Second Chance for Those Left Behind. Blessed and Holy is he that Hath Part in The First Resurrection: Revelation 20:6. Those Who are Not Covered by The Blood of The Lamb are The Walking Dead you can Call Them Zombies. Ask Forgiveness You'll be Changed. John 6:44

Jesus Answered them, Have not I Chosen You Twelve and One of You is a Devil? ( John 6:70)

1-71 above, we again see Jesus is focused on preparing the 'WAY' for you and I to secure
Eternal-Life through HIM.

The Bible is The Living Word. Religious People or Unsaved Need to Ask Forgiveness when Called( John 6:44)You Will be Washed by His Blood(Revelation1:5)Baptized with The Holy Ghost( Mark 1:8)You Will be Changed( 2Corinthians 5:17)You Will Know, Impossible Not to. Then Read His Word.The Spirit Will Help and Guide You. Some Questions Have No Answers. We Will Know When Taking Up. Son,Father, Different

Wrath of God is Not The Tribulation. If You Read The Bible you Would Know The Difference Between Wrath of God and The Tribulation or Look in a Concordance or Dictionary it explains, Easily. Wrath is For The Lost, Will be Poured Out( Revelation 16:1-21) Tribulation is Satan Attacking Believers. your title Says you have Pride(it's Sin) you have No Authority, that's Foolishness( John 6:44, Romans 1)

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

MPHO: Without The Spirit Living In Your Heart, Impossible. When You Feel The Spirit Pulling On Your Heart( John 6:44)Ask Forgiveness. You Will be Washed in His Blood ( Revelation 1:5) You Will be Baptized With The Holy Ghost( Mark 1:8) You Will be Changed( 2Corinthians 5:17) You Will Know. You Grow by Telling Others what Christ has Done in Your Life, how to be Saved, Reading The Bible,Praying Daily