No, We are not going to heaven. According to this: Matthew 5:5 — Meek Inherit the Earth.
Adam and Eve was supposed to live forgive on this Earth in Pardise and be fruit and have a children but they failed and disobey in the name of God.
He said he promised for righteous and unrighteous to live here forever and removed the wick of the system of things. Wait a minute.. Unrighteous too ? Yes.. Here: The book goes on to say—“But why will Jesus permit a man who was a criminal to live in Paradise?
Acts 24:15: I have a hope in God (a hope that these men themselves accept too) that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.
Luke 23:42 42 And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” 43 And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”
Other criminal insulted Jesus will not come with him in Paradise at all.
So that the unrighteous will have an opportunity to prove that he love God in new Earth right here. Yes, for one thousand years.
God has a name. Jesus said: “Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified” Matthew 6:9.
The father has a name. Go to your bible and you will be shock even your churches a false churches do not taught God's name. God and Lord is the subjects! PSALM 83:18 -- His name is what ? Yes, JEHOVAH!
@danny Jesus told one of the thieves in luke 23:43 And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
So yes Christ saved one of the thieves that day. As for the cross being a T or a tree...I believe there is history of the Romans using both so I am not sure which Christ was crucified on.
Jesus said unto thy hands i hand over my spirit before he died. When he died Jesus the Christ and the repented robber promised paradise went straight back to heaven.
@Troy,
“And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise”.
Today refers to the very moment Jesus was speaking, but the promise of meeting in paradise was only for the future.
Because just in verse 46 of same chapter, “Jesus gave up the ghost” meaning he died. And could only come back to life three days and three nights later.
So there was no way both could meet in paradise, because both died.
That’s what it says.
God bless you.
Luke 23:43, And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. What is the meaning of this verse: How would I be able to teach this verse in bible study.
What was the original definition of Iewes and what year did it first appear in the bible? Also, why did the translators mistranslate the word as that is not what Pontius Pilate wrote? I feel that this is the most offensive verse in the bible because. Our Savior is the King of the Yehudim (Judeans) YeYeshua HaNazarei v Melech HaYehudim. And the word Jew was a vulgar English slang word that didn't appear till the 18th Century and Pilate was speaking of the country from which Yeshua was decent of not Jews. I have looked at it in Greek, Latin, and Hebrew. It breaks my heart to think that hated of the Hebrews so confused Christians to accept that Yeshua (Jesus) was ever King of the Jews. That is like saying he is King of the children of lies. Do you see why I find this so offensive to Our Lord and Savior? Yes I would like to understand why all the learned scholars have been unable to see their error.
My opinion in this, about the green and dry tree is this; in Matthew 19:3-12, some Pharisees approached him to test him, they asked; is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife on any grounds. Verse 4, haven’t you read, he replied that he who created them in the beginning, made them male and female. Verse 5, he also said: for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two will become one flesh. Verse 6, so they are no longer two but one flesh, therefore what God has joined together man must not separate. Verse 7, why then, they ask him did Moses command us to give divorce papers, and to send her away. Verse 8, he told them, Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of the hardness of your hearts, but it was not like that from the beginning: Verse 9, and I tell you, whoever divorces his wife, except, for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery. Verse 10, his disciples said to him, if the relationship of a man with his wife is like this, it is better not to marry. Verse 11, but he told them, not everyone can accept this saying? But only those it has been given to. Verse 12, for there are eunuchs, who were born that way from their mothers’ womb, there are eunuchs who were made by men, and there are eunuchs who have made themselves that way because of the kingdom of heaven, let anyone accept this who can. In Luke 23-27-29, the women were following Jesus as he was going to the cross they were mourning and lamenting him but turning to them, Jesus said daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me, but weep for yourselves and your children. Verse 29, look, the days are coming when they say, blessed are the barren, the wombs that never bore, and the breasts that never nursed; Isaiah said in 54:1-rejoice oh barren one, you who have not been in labor, for the children of the forsaken one will be more than the children of the married woman, says the Lord. Geneses 3:16, he said to the woman: I will intensify your labor pains: you will bear children: in Isaiah 56:3, no foreigner who has converted to the Lord should say, the Lord will exclude me from his people, and the eunuch should not say look, I am a dried up tree. Look on verses 4, I will give them, in my house and within my walls, a memorial and a name better than sons and daughters, I will give them a forever lasting name, this my thought on Luke 23:31. Jesus is talking about a woman, or man that can’t produce of their seed, if a women has children, she is fruitful green tree if not she could be a dry tree; or a eunuch can’t produce some eunuchs. When some men decide not to marry could be considered? God bless you women and men that can bear this.
@Susan Dalton,
1. War! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!
2. It has been said that war is God's judgment of sin here on earth and hell (not Hades) is God's judgment of sin hereafter;
3. War and violence will be continuous on earth until the prince of peace stops it after the white throne judgment ( Revelation 20:15) when eternity begins.
@ Wilsom Mungai,
1. The time of salvation is the moment a person calls upon and receives the lord Jesus Christ as their personal savior ( Romans 10:9-13);
2. Easter is a Babylonian pagan ritual from the pagan Astaroth ( Deuteronomy 1:4);
3. A bible believing Christian should never refer to the resurrection day as Easter;
4. My question is what does the rabbit and egg have to do with the resurrection of Jesus Christ?
@James,
The righteous are remembered at the moment of salvation ( 2 Corinthians 6:2), just as we are known by God at the moment of conception ( Jeremiah 1:5).
Truth is independent of opinion and by its definition, it is intolerant of error. Notice the way the malefactor; Lord remember me when you come in your kingdom, which shows that he(thief) understood how the righteous are saved according to Jesus teachings. So righteous people are remembered at the Second Advent, not at the point of their death. It is therefore good to suit an individual's opinion as many do. If the scripture is read without a prayerful and humble heart, the simplest passage can be misunderstood. I thank of you people who have decided to carefully search the scriptures in prayer and humility. 2 Peter 3:15-18.
@Penelope,
On verse 26 - Barabbas (means son of the father) was released instead of Jesus. In John 18:40, Barabbas is called a robber; Luke 23:25, Barabbas is called a murderer and sedition (rebellion against authority); Mark 15:15, Barabbas is accused of insurrection. But Pilate like most politicians, had a poll taken of the most likely voters, and wanting to please the people, released Barabbas; a known murderer, robber, and rebellion against authority over a known innocent man (not much has changed in 2000 years in politics). As for the 2 thieves on the cross along with Jesus, one thief repented and went to be with Jesus in paradise and the other went to hell because he repented not ( Luke 23:39-43). Question? Do you know the difference between paradise and the 3rd heaven? And which one is where those that die in Christ go now?
It appears from the comments that reasoning persons are wondering whether the meaning of the word 'today' and/or the punctuation, may have been lost in translation. The answer is that there was no punctuation in the original Greek Bible manuscripts. Further, 'today' could not have meant that very day, since Jesus himself was not raised up until the third day and during that three-day period, he was not in heaven, because following his resurrection he told Mary Magdalene: "I have not yet ascended to the Father." ( John 20:17). It was 40 days later that he ascended. Jesus was preaching the hope of resurrection. The book of Revelation, written about 63 years after the statements in Luke were made, indicates that these events, including the resurrection, were still in the future. For more information, please contact your local congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Please take the scriptures at his word. See Matthew 9:5-6 and Luke 23:43 "today" simply means that, that is when the statement was made, that day. Paradise also includes the Garden of Eden, (earthly restoration of the kingdom) Jesus is a spirit being; (born out of the spirit, is “spirit". John 3:6 after a spiritual church is complete, the earth, and the "thief" will be resurrected to a physical condition; understand and repent and be nourished to a perfect physical condition! No limited "physical" church can accomplish this! It has been tried, see 1Corinthians15:50 "kingdom", equals the government.. Revelation 22:1; 22:17.
My research shows only concern for either Paradise or the location of a comma. Am I the only one who sees the question being asked here? Jesus said "SHALT THOU"? Shall You? If He was making a statement He would have said "THOU SHALT" or You Shall/Will be with me. First of all no one was "Saved" until the day of Pentecost when the Holy Ghost was poured out. This lie about the thief being saved on the cross has led to the "death bed prayers" among evangelicals and allows the lost to postpone their commitment to Christ and gives them a license to continue in their sinful ways. Then have a death bed experience like the thief and think they're going to heaven. The new birth is "Born Again" of the water (baptism) and the spirit (Holy Spirit infilling), this happened on the day of Pentecost and 5000 were "saved". And the church grew from that point (read the book of Acts, that is the beginning of the church).
To Jennifer, "they" in verse 34 relates to all of us. When Jesus said father forgive them for the know not what they do, he was thinking of all of mankind, because it was our sin that he was forgiving by dying on the cross. Since we have been forgiven, we should forgive others who sin toward us. Peter ask the Lord how many times should I forgive my brother up to seven? Jesus said not seven, but seventy times seven. If you are struggling with unforgiveness, then go to the cross, and there you will see all of your sin that Jesus forgave, when he said father forgive them for they know not what they do.
"And the same day Pilate and Herod were made friends together: for before they were at enmity between themselves." ( Luke 23:12)
What precedes wars and fightings? As Karl von Clausewitz analyzed war, his observations can be carried over into that which is beyond military combat.
His definition of war is "war therefore is an act of violence to compel our opponent to fulfill our will." He says, "War is always a serious means for a serious object."
James says, "From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war,yet ye have not, because ye ask not. Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts." ( James 4:1-3)
James speaks of lust, Clausewitz said, "Everything which appears an advantage may be the object of a combat..."
The heart manifests lust, envy, hostility, and hatred unto war.
Have quickly hostility can manifest in the heart. A close examination of one's heart could show hostility. Hostility towards a comment made, or an action committed or omitted. It may not manifest itself into an open battle, but the hostility can remain in the heart. A polarity [Clausewitz] now exists (whether hidden in the heart, or openly manifested). Enemies are made.
Now enemies (polar opposites) with hostile hearts, war is declared (whether verbal or silent). You don't like that person, that person does not like you. The hostility can burn and enflame into hatred and the desire to kill. (whether with words, actions, or the desire for supremacy).
There may be many battles; many words and actions that convey hostility.
Sometimes action in the war can be suspended, without the war ending: circumstances may dictate an inaction. [Cluasewitz] Maybe you don't want someone to see or hear your hostility so you take it underground for awhile. Maybe you decide the place or time is not advantageous for you to get the advantage so you wait for a more advantageous moment. But, the hostility is still there; it's just being put on hold.
You may feel hostility, but recognize the person has superior power that could do you harm; so you hold off attacking; but, not because the hostility is gone; but, because you access the situation is not to your advantage.
Hostility remains in the heart.
Clausewitz speaks of "reciprocal action." Also, reciprocal action of reciprocal action. One hostility begats another hostility...."Thus a continuance of action will ensue which will advance towards a climax."
If war is "a continuation of policy by other means", to have war there must be two or more opposing policies. If there are ten people sitting at a table and all ten have ten different policies (things they believe) anyone who speaks differently could be viewed hostilely. Everyone can be seeking to hold their policy, and hold their position as superior with hostility towards anyone who does not submit to their view.
Now as toward truth, we know we are to obey God (His policy). We are to speak the truth in love; but, even then, Jesus has said, "If they hated me, they will hate you." There will be those who do not want Jesus to be over them. They will not want to obey His Words (policy). They will be hostile toward Him, toward His Word, and toward His servants. They are hostile toward God, and at war with Him.
But, we who are the Lord's, if not careful, can harbor hostility in our hearts. We are admonished to "Keep thy heart with all diligence..." ( Proverbs 4:23)
We are to "follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled..." ( Hebrews 12:14-15)
Cain, Esau, Pharisees, scorners, etc. manifested hostile hearts.
John says, "...whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother." ( I John 3:10)
Our hearts will either condemn us or commend us. If the heart manifests hostility, that hostility must be in opposition to something. If hostility remains, murder can be its climax.
Cain rose up against Abel in the field and slew him; why? because Cains works were evil and Abel's were righteous. Cain was hostile toward God and toward his brother. His hostility continued unto hatred and murder.
Has any research been done on the punctuatiohn of this verse. Jesus did appear later to many people? Also, did Jesus go to hades which some say is Hell?
Nimrod Christ Nimrod, Ph.D. on Psalms 23 - 15 years ago
(The 23rd Psalm) Again Alica, Jesus did not die on the cursed cross for your sins. Jesus Conquered death on that cursed cross for your sins. The Greek term for Jesus' so-called death is "Thanatos" which means a spirital separation from the body. The last thing Jesus said on that cursed cross was: "And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, He said, Father, into Thy Hands I commend My Spirit: and having said thus, He gave up His Spirit" ( Luke 23:46). Jesus dismissed His Spirit into the Hands of His Father. Jesus actually came fully alive when He went back to His Father, back to where He came from. Jesus was not buried in the tomb. His Body was buried. That is the happy ending you should teach your children Alicia and not the bloody horror that has been taught to you. Your choice! God loves you Alicia and your children and so do I. Sincerely, God's son, servant and friend King Nimrod ( Gen. 10:8-10).
Luke 23:46
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
Let no man deceive you. Jesus told us don't follow no one. Anti-christ means instead of jesus. Daniel tells us in chapter 10,11, Of his book that satan comes in peace speaking flatteries. Looks just like the lamb but speaks as the dragon. When you see the great Apostascy, a falling away, people leaving there Religions and chasing after antichrist who looks just like Our Christ,then you`ll know. Its a 5 month period. Shorten for the elect. Revelation 9. Satan comes in peace to deceive the world.the time was shorten. The seals and the program remains. God said in Ezekiel 13 of the K.J.V. He`s against them that teach His children to fly away to save their souls. Don't read the N.I.V. it missleads God`s plan, birds was replaced. 1st seal, satan comes with a fake crown and a poison bow. His sword is his lies to deceive. How else could he get the world to follow him. What is the opposit of war,its peace. Wars and rumours of wars don't be toubled. Peace is when you worry. Matthew 24: 4 first seal,first warning, let no man deceive you. 5. Yea, a lot of bad Bible teachers but satan brings a pit full of locust priest, Revelation 9:7 horses is power, with fake crowns,faces of men because they are, hair like a woman, so soft spoken and sweet, come to jesus and turn over them to the son of perdition[ death ] our little rock. Their teeth of lions to tare your soul away.9:9 breastplates of iron. Not our Breastplates our Priest wear with the 12 stones that are our tribes as worn in the old days. The sound of their chariots, check Ezekiel chapter one that may be the transportation they use to get here in. The dead that you read of in Revelation is the spirituall death. Smoke,fire,brimstone, Lies! When you read 666 its in your brain, read the IN! And on the hand, is nursing the system along wkth buying and sellin. Luke 23:29 Blessed are the barren, Cause we are not going to be deceived, the wombs that never bare and paps which never gave suck. Don't whore after the first one that comes as a lamb this time and wants you to fly away with him. Our Lord returns as a Lion,not a Lamb. When the money changes and the one world system is in place because that man of sin shows up and heals that deadly wound and the rest of the world whores after him, turn away. Pray to God above for direction. He loves you, we are His children.
Actually to me, the “task” wasn’t fulfilled at the point of him talking to the thief... people will tell you “Jesus died on the cross for our sins” then they use this to say “ha! All you have to do is believe just like he did” well.. Sorry... Not true... because that was before the new testament… CAUSE JESUS HASN’T DIED YET… Look at verse 46… then you read in the other gospels where it talks about them “piercing” his side and the BLOOD and WATER... * John 19:34* then in *19:36* it says so the scripture was fulfilled … THAT’S when the LAMB was sacrificed… the LAMB being Jesus... the blood being the CLEANSING… that’s when the New Testament begins… MY BLOOD AND FLESH… so that should answer your question
I had tostop i themiddle of reading Mathew Henry's commentary to post my wonder and appreciation of his ministry and loving words that openour hearts to God's grace through our Saviour. He calls the action between the dying thief and Jesus , a monument to God's mercy. This is what sinners must focus on, the Lord's loving kindness regarding his forgivenes. As sinners, we sometimes need a monument, and Matthew Henrys inspiring words to come to know the Lord and his love.
I believe that it mean that it wasn't the physical beatings that killed Jesus he did not die from weakness and did not die until the holy ghost said he could die he spoke the words father into thy hands i command my spirit then he gave up the ghost.the work that the Father God had commissioned for Jesus to do was now completed.because of Christ shedding his blood on calvary,when we accept Christ as our personal saviour we are no longer God's enemy Christ death reconciled every believer back to God.he's our father and as we begin to do his will we are no longer caste away.Jesus is the way for all mankind to go to God thru the holies of holies and to heaven.we don't have to slay a lamb anymore Jesus is the perfect sacrafice we don't need anything else.animal sacrafice was a ritual act and could not remove sin but the blood of Jesus Christ wash away our sins.Thank God for Jesus.
Adam and Eve was supposed to live forgive on this Earth in Pardise and be fruit and have a children but they failed and disobey in the name of God.
He said he promised for righteous and unrighteous to live here forever and removed the wick of the system of things. Wait a minute.. Unrighteous too ? Yes.. Here: The book goes on to say—“But why will Jesus permit a man who was a criminal to live in Paradise?
Acts 24:15: I have a hope in God (a hope that these men themselves accept too) that there is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.
Luke 23:42 42 And he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.” 43 And he said to him, “Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in Paradise.”
Other criminal insulted Jesus will not come with him in Paradise at all.
So that the unrighteous will have an opportunity to prove that he love God in new Earth right here. Yes, for one thousand years.
God has a name. Jesus said: “Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified” Matthew 6:9.
The father has a name. Go to your bible and you will be shock even your churches a false churches do not taught God's name. God and Lord is the subjects! PSALM 83:18 -- His name is what ? Yes, JEHOVAH!
So yes Christ saved one of the thieves that day. As for the cross being a T or a tree...I believe there is history of the Romans using both so I am not sure which Christ was crucified on.
“And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise”.
Today refers to the very moment Jesus was speaking, but the promise of meeting in paradise was only for the future.
Because just in verse 46 of same chapter, “Jesus gave up the ghost” meaning he died. And could only come back to life three days and three nights later.
So there was no way both could meet in paradise, because both died.
That’s what it says.
God bless you.
1. War! What is it good for? Absolutely nothing!
2. It has been said that war is God's judgment of sin here on earth and hell (not Hades) is God's judgment of sin hereafter;
3. War and violence will be continuous on earth until the prince of peace stops it after the white throne judgment ( Revelation 20:15) when eternity begins.
1. The time of salvation is the moment a person calls upon and receives the lord Jesus Christ as their personal savior ( Romans 10:9-13);
2. Easter is a Babylonian pagan ritual from the pagan Astaroth ( Deuteronomy 1:4);
3. A bible believing Christian should never refer to the resurrection day as Easter;
4. My question is what does the rabbit and egg have to do with the resurrection of Jesus Christ?
The righteous are remembered at the moment of salvation ( 2 Corinthians 6:2), just as we are known by God at the moment of conception ( Jeremiah 1:5).
On verse 26 - Barabbas (means son of the father) was released instead of Jesus. In John 18:40, Barabbas is called a robber; Luke 23:25, Barabbas is called a murderer and sedition (rebellion against authority); Mark 15:15, Barabbas is accused of insurrection. But Pilate like most politicians, had a poll taken of the most likely voters, and wanting to please the people, released Barabbas; a known murderer, robber, and rebellion against authority over a known innocent man (not much has changed in 2000 years in politics). As for the 2 thieves on the cross along with Jesus, one thief repented and went to be with Jesus in paradise and the other went to hell because he repented not ( Luke 23:39-43). Question? Do you know the difference between paradise and the 3rd heaven? And which one is where those that die in Christ go now?
And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise. ( Luke 23:43)
So when exactly was the malefactor baptized?
Either the Lord is wrong or you are.
What precedes wars and fightings? As Karl von Clausewitz analyzed war, his observations can be carried over into that which is beyond military combat.
His definition of war is "war therefore is an act of violence to compel our opponent to fulfill our will." He says, "War is always a serious means for a serious object."
James says, "From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of your lusts that war in your members? Ye lust, and have not, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war,yet ye have not, because ye ask not. Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts." ( James 4:1-3)
James speaks of lust, Clausewitz said, "Everything which appears an advantage may be the object of a combat..."
The heart manifests lust, envy, hostility, and hatred unto war.
Have quickly hostility can manifest in the heart. A close examination of one's heart could show hostility. Hostility towards a comment made, or an action committed or omitted. It may not manifest itself into an open battle, but the hostility can remain in the heart. A polarity [Clausewitz] now exists (whether hidden in the heart, or openly manifested). Enemies are made.
Now enemies (polar opposites) with hostile hearts, war is declared (whether verbal or silent). You don't like that person, that person does not like you. The hostility can burn and enflame into hatred and the desire to kill. (whether with words, actions, or the desire for supremacy).
There may be many battles; many words and actions that convey hostility.
Sometimes action in the war can be suspended, without the war ending: circumstances may dictate an inaction. [Cluasewitz] Maybe you don't want someone to see or hear your hostility so you take it underground for awhile. Maybe you decide the place or time is not advantageous for you to get the advantage so you wait for a more advantageous moment. But, the hostility is still there; it's just being put on hold.
You may feel hostility, but recognize the person has superior power that could do you harm; so you hold off attacking; but, not because the hostility is gone; but, because you access the situation is not to your advantage.
Hostility remains in the heart.
Clausewitz speaks of "reciprocal action." Also, reciprocal action of reciprocal action. One hostility begats another hostility...."Thus a continuance of action will ensue which will advance towards a climax."
If war is "a continuation of policy by other means", to have war there must be two or more opposing policies. If there are ten people sitting at a table and all ten have ten different policies (things they believe) anyone who speaks differently could be viewed hostilely. Everyone can be seeking to hold their policy, and hold their position as superior with hostility towards anyone who does not submit to their view.
Now as toward truth, we know we are to obey God (His policy). We are to speak the truth in love; but, even then, Jesus has said, "If they hated me, they will hate you." There will be those who do not want Jesus to be over them. They will not want to obey His Words (policy). They will be hostile toward Him, toward His Word, and toward His servants. They are hostile toward God, and at war with Him.
But, we who are the Lord's, if not careful, can harbor hostility in our hearts. We are admonished to "Keep thy heart with all diligence..." ( Proverbs 4:23)
We are to "follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled..." ( Hebrews 12:14-15)
Cain, Esau, Pharisees, scorners, etc. manifested hostile hearts.
John says, "...whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother." ( I John 3:10)
Our hearts will either condemn us or commend us. If the heart manifests hostility, that hostility must be in opposition to something. If hostility remains, murder can be its climax.
Cain rose up against Abel in the field and slew him; why? because Cains works were evil and Abel's were righteous. Cain was hostile toward God and toward his brother. His hostility continued unto hatred and murder.
The heart of the matter is the heart.
Luke 23:46
And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.
Greek word σήμερον Greek pronoun “semeron” means on last day for Christ's 2nd coming?