What Jesus Did For Our Freedom - In Reply - 4 years ago
Some believe that while Jesus' body was in the tomb, His spirit was in hell.Scripture doesn't support that position when it is taken in context and we look at the meaning of the word "hell." In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.
In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified( Luke 23:42-43)
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).
Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise, to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts" then refers to Jesus mission of declaring Victory!
What does the Dove symbolize? It describes the nature of Jesus Christ ministry. A peaceful loving ministry. A ministry of love. The love where he laid down his life for those who look to him for guidance and strength. When he was being put to death he said forgive them for they know not what they do. Luke 23:34
Hi Eric. Good to see you back here & still in deep study of the Word. Wonderful.
It would have been very interesting & noteworthy if that murderer who was spared, & Jesus Who was put to the Cross in his place, became a team-mate to Saul (Paul), but unfortunately that was not so. I think you're referring to Barabbas who was due to be crucified that day ( Luke 23:13-25; and Apostle John refers to Barabbas as a robber, John 18:40). We know that Barabbas had several charges against him: sedition, murder & also robbery, showing how much anger the Jews had in their hearts against Jesus, that such a criminal as Barabbas was thought more worthy of freedom than their Messiah Who only did good to them & came to give His Life for them.
And then we have Barnabas, as you mentioned, with a similar sounding name to Barabbas. Barnabas' actual name was Joseph, but he was called Barnabas because he was known for being an encourager & consoler ( Acts 4:36). And you will learn many more good things about him as you go through the Book of the Acts of the Apostles. Keep up the good work Eric.
In other translation "Jerusalem Bible" "His brightness is like the day, rays flash from his hands, that is where his power lies hidden"
When I researched it: resemblance of the cross, injuries to the Messiah's hands, resurrection of Jesus, the scars remained. Prophecy? John 20:20, * John 20:24-31, *
Psalms 22:16
Psalms 22:1, Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34,
Mark 15:24-31, Matthew 27:35-42, Psalms 22, John 19:33-37, Luke 23:33-37, Luke 24:36-42,
Tonight I just read Luke 23:44-45 again & for the first time. I realized after seeing the total solar Eclipse on-line very recently. The moment on the cross must have been recorded as total solar eclipse. Lasting 3 hours. There may be a way to more accurately date back the timing that secular history tried destroying, hiding. Anyway very exciting. Hopefully this helps in your search. Also with the Star, Matthew 2:2,7-10 very active heavenly activity must have been recorded also. Just for thought.
Luke 8:2, Luke 8:1-4, the whole chapter is relevant actually to point out Jesus love for people deliverance, GOD's nature, Luke 8,
Mary Magdalene is mentioned: Mark 15:40-47, continues Mark 16:1-14, Matthew 27:55-56 (followed Jesus from Galilee), Matthew 27:59-61, Matthew 28:1-10, Luke 23:49-56 continues Luke 24:1-10,22-24, John 19:25,
Luke 23:29, Isaiah 54:1, these scriptures exist too. When other women say._..
Luke 1:25, 1 Samuel 1:6, women have cruelly mocked other women many times over this issue & others.
Remember GOD justifies Romans 8:33, Psalms 22:24, be encouraged sis
Proverbs 16:9, Romans 5:1, James 2:22-25,
However the root argument sometimes stem from situational issues of choice which people may be referring to Genesis 38:6-10, then continued reading Tamar was considered "more righteous" Genesis 38:26, pursuing offspring of her dead husbands lineage, which was significant either in justification, reward or preplanned destiny. Matthew 1:3, Genesis 38:29, she is written in the documentation of Jesus lineage. Hebrews 11,
Additional scripture
Act 17:28-29, Malachi 2:15, Isaiah 65:21-24, on their perspective
HELL__WITH BIBLE SCRIPTURES__mishael - 4 years ago
Some believe that while Jesus' body was in the tomb, His spirit was in hell.Scripture doesn't support that position when it is taken in context and we look at the meaning of the word "hell." In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.
In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).
Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts" then refers to Jesus mission of declaring Victory
I suggest praying and asking for peace and understanding.
If you're referring to something you thought or did before you came to know the Lord, then I personally don't believe you are guilty of this. I think it's closer to the opposite of what the other commenter said. I think it's especially for Christians who already 'know better' and already know the truth, then reject it to the point of calling good evil and evil good and claiming evil motives- perhaps like an ultimate betrayal, and it might also involve denying the holy spirit within you. I hesitate to even write this as an example. A clear example of this blaspheming is Matthew 12:24 by the Pharisees. Jesus logically refuted it, but it's unclear whether He was saying the Pharisees then had no chance to go to heaven, because I don't believe they had true knowledge of the truth yet. I think it's possible Judas committed this as well. It's possible Peter committed this, but was forgiven in a special circumstance, possibly.
My Biblical support for this is Hebrews 10:26 and 2 Peter 2:20-22 and 1 Timothy 1:13 and Hebrews 6:4-6 and Luke 23:34. Maybe more here: Link
This is my personal opinion. Romans 1:20 could be used to suggest otherwise, but it's my opinion that it is only concerning knowing there's a God, not necessarily having the full truth of Jesus Christ and the holy spirit and then denying. I also don't believe falling away qualifies. I think we're talking about a full on rejection and I hate even the thought while writing this, but if it couldn't happen Jesus would not have warned us about it. God bless.
Lazarus the Beggar. Luke 15 - In Reply on Luke 23 - 4 years ago
This story tells the answer: the Rich man never helped anyone; he didn't obey God. He died in his sins and went to hell.
19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in HELL he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this FLAME.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brothers; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
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Hi Tina Look at ecclesiastes 9:5+6 We are asleep or dead until if your born again when christ returns for his body we rise up to meet him in the air all others will be raised in the judgement in revelation the just and unjust.
Dear Earl Bowman am not often disagree with you but this time i am. In Jesus Name.
Remember when the gards stuck The Lord with the spear it comes out of the Lord exactly blood and wather. John 19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. And also
The Lord said: Luke 23:43
And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
King of King have Absolut All rights too have this authority to said soo, and do what ever He want.
That was a terrible day and the days after, it was dark and many ppl stand up from the grave, and evan walked in Jerusalem!
May God bless us all with fully understanding in the right time, in Jesus Holy Name.
Brethren in submission to the Lord Jesus Christ of this website. Is it not of interests how not many days ago here in the US we watched migrants under the stool of our border which provided some shade as decisions on what to do were made? Hopefully we prayed for God's Will be done and that our lives in Jesus Christ remained free. With a free heart we can also have a sincere prayer for precious Christians and some young children that are being held against their will for a price by kidnappers.
From Christian Aid Ministries Associates:
Tomorrow October 21 all believers are invited in Fasting and Prayer for: "The victims, for endurance, faithfulness, and a spirit of Christlike love. Pray for their release and that they could follow the example of Jesus who said of His enemies, "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do" Luke 23:34
The kidnappers- that they would experience the love of Jesus and turn to Him.
Government leaders and authorities- as they relate to the case and work toward the release of the victims.
This time of difficulty reminds us of the ongoing suffering of millions of Haitians. While our workers chose to serve in Haiti, our Haitian friends endure crisis after crisis, continual violence, and economic hardship. Despite the difficulties and dangers involved with working there, both our Haitian and American workers carry a vision to minister the love of Jesus in Haiti. Our goal is to seize opportunities around the world, even in difficult contexts, to follow the footsteps of Jesus, who "went about doing good".
GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} soul & spirit depart - In Reply - 4 years ago
1 Thessalonians 5:23
Precious brother Chris says: "I cannot find a suitable answer for," and asks Great Questions:
Where does the spirit of man go? Ecclesiastes 12:7 cp James 2:26
me: Does the soul also depart? Genesis 35:18
Is there a holding place for such? And where could this place be?
1) Before The Resurrection Of The LORD JESUS CHRIST, the paradise 'hold' was in "the heart {lower parts} of the earth" Matthew 12:40Ephesians 4:9, Abraham's bosom, across a chasm from the 'torment' hold Luke 16:19-31 cp Luke 23:43
2) After The Resurrection Of The LORD JESUS CHRIST, paradise is now with The Throne Of God {Third Heaven?}, and Body Of CHRIST 'members' Immediately, upon physical death {'sleep' is the metaphor for the 'dead body'} "Depart to be WITH our Blessed God And Saviour, JESUS CHRIST!" 2 Corinthians 5:6,8Philippians 1:21,23 'Confirmed' By:
3) ...Those 'asleep In JESUS'..." {metaphor for 'resting' in JESUS}, "...Will God {JESUS} Bring With HIM!" 1 Thessalonians 4:14 At our Great GRACE Departure! 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Amen?
4) Is the "sleep/rest" UNconscious? Scripture?: Luke 16:19-31 cp Revelation 6:9-11
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Ed Bedore says: "A proper understanding of what the Bible teaches about Hell, Sheol, Hades, and the Grave dispels confusion over what happens to the soul at the time of physical death and guards against being led astray by those teaching the false doctrines of soul-sleep, eradication of the soul, the universal reconciliation of mankind, and the annihilation of the lost.":
More can be learned from his Excellent Article about this Bible Doctrine:
Hell, Sheol, Hades, Paradise, and the Grave by W. Edward Bedore
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Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!
( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,?): Link
And Jesus said unto (to) him, Verily I say unto thee (to you), To day shalt thou (you shall) be with me in paradise. ("Today" means john 3:16,17. that this criminal will be forgiven by means of his repentance and faith. he will live forever on earth by means of Jesus Christ one for all ransom sacrifice.)
Paradise is on EARTH:
Psalms 37:9-11,29,34
144,000 taken from earth will rule with Christ for 1,000 years
bringing the earth back to Jehovah's ( psalm 83:18) original plan:
Philippians 2:13 For it is God (SPIRIT) that WORKETH IN YOU (in Christ, also) Both TO WILL and TO DO of his (the SPIRIT'S) good pleasure.
John 5:30 I can or MYSELF DO NOTHING: as I hear (the SPIRIT), I judge (by the SPIRIT), and my judgement (by the SPIRIT) is just; because I seek not my own will, but THE WILL of the Father (SPIRIT) which hath SENT ME.
John 10:18 No man taketh IT (LIFE by SPIRIT) from me, but I lay IT (LIFE by SPIRIT) down of myself (I can of myself do nothing). I have power (by the SPIRIT) to take IT (LIFE by SPIRIT) again. This commandment ( John 15:10) have I received of my Father.
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, into thy hands (God; SPIRIT) I commend my (the Father's) SPIRIT ( Ephesians 4:4 there is ONE BODY, and ONE SPIRIT......)( John 17:21)
Remember the bible is the words of CHRIST (the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit).
Psalms 56:11 IN GOD (SPIRIT) have I (the SON) put my trust: I (the Son) will not be afraid of what man can do to me.
Jesus gave his body of flesh for us, so we are able to never see DEATH; because SPIRIT NEVER DIES.
I'm not sure what you are working on, this is not to cause debate, I hope you don't mind if I may give some information that may help you on your search. You say they did not know at sundown and that is when Joseph took His body. Jesus was crucified on the Passover day, 14 th of Nisan, which was a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread 15 th - 21 st, which the first day is a holy convocation. That is a sabbath day that the only work you could do is to prepare food to eat. There were two Sabbaths, Friday and Saturday John called it a high day ( John 19:31). ( Exodus 12:3-11) ( Leviticus 23:5-7), ( Numbers 33:1-3)
They had to get Jesus down and in the tomb, before the sun went down, when the sun goes down it starts the next day, the 15 th that started the feast of Unleavened Bread the night they ate the Passover which the first day is a Sabbath. ( Matthew 27:46-50) ( Mark 15:34-37) ( Luke 23:52-56) ( John 19:30-31). The ninth hour is 3 to 4 PM, The preparation and Sabbath they are talking about, the 14 th Passover day, the 15 th, the first day of the feast that will start at sundown.
It may seem a long time from 3 PM to 7 PM but look at what happened after Jesus gave up the ghost, people went to Pilate to partition that the bodies be taken down. He sent the soldiers to go and break their legs at would take a while before they would die. The reason they broke their legs was they could not push up with their legs so they could breathe, so they die of asphyxia.
After that Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate asking for Jesus' body, Nicodemus, a Pharisee that first met Jesus at night not wanting to be seen, brought the spices for the burial. When Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate he did not believe Jesus was dead already, he even sent for the centurion to verify Jesus had died that quickly. You would think 6 hours would be long enough. ( Mark 15:44-45).
I hope this little amount of information will help, 2000 characters are short.
Good info, but it doesn't square with Joseph at sundown (7 pm) asking the roman soldier if Jesus was dead. The point is they didn't know at sundown, and had to check. The other two criminals were alive at sundown so their legs were broken.
( Luke 23:52-53)
52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.
53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
How could Jesus have possibly died at 3 pm, 4 hours before sundown, when Joseph took his body?
As you are free to have your beliefs as we all are. I myself believe us in Christ(our spirit/soul) go to be with the Lord, where He is, when we die. As I'm not here to argue with you, as said, you are free to have your beliefs as I am. All I'm going to do is leave a couple Scriptures that pertain our "spirit" does not sleep. 1 Corinthians 15:51. In Luke 16 about two different men being in two different places after death. Then in Luke 23:43 Jesus telling the one man who hung with Him that today "shalt thou be with Me in paradise".
Again I'm not here to change your mind or argue anything. As maybe some people do sleep till judgement. Though I believe us in Christ go to be with the Lord when our physical bodies are done. As we are His.
I firmly believe that when we die, our soul goes immediately into the presence of the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:1 says, "For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle (physical body) were dissolved (physical death), we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
Paul goes on to say in Verse 6, "Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body (physically alive right now), we are absent from the Lord:"
But then in Verse 8, he says, "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord."
Please notice that when we're here, the Lord's with us but we're not with Him in heaven. But as soon as you are absent from the body, as soon as you experience death, which means separation, as soon as your spirit leaves your body, you're in the presence of the Lord.
Paul said that his physical death would be far better for him than remaining alive because he knew that he would be in the presence of Christ. That is given to us in Philippians 1:23.
In Acts 7:59, at the stoning of Stephen, it tells us that as they were stoning him, he was calling upon God. And this is the thing that Stephen said first of all when they were stoning him. He said Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. It reminds me of Luke 23:46, "And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said Father, into thy hands I commend my Spirit. And having said thus, He expired or gave up the ghost."
So, when we die, our physical body goes into the grave and waits until the resurrection where we will receive a new glorified body. But at death, our soul separates from the physical body and goes to be with the Lord immediately.
Best Way To Know Where we Go At Death - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 5 years ago
Some believe that while Jesus' body was in the tomb, His spirit was in hell.Scripture doesn't support that position when it is taken in context and we look at the meaning of the word "hell." In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.
In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).
Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise, to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the lower parts refers to Jesus mission of declaring Victory!
In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified( Luke 23:42-43)
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).
Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise, to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts" then refers to Jesus mission of declaring Victory!
What does the Dove symbolize? It describes the nature of Jesus Christ ministry. A peaceful loving ministry. A ministry of love. The love where he laid down his life for those who look to him for guidance and strength. When he was being put to death he said forgive them for they know not what they do. Luke 23:34
It would have been very interesting & noteworthy if that murderer who was spared, & Jesus Who was put to the Cross in his place, became a team-mate to Saul (Paul), but unfortunately that was not so. I think you're referring to Barabbas who was due to be crucified that day ( Luke 23:13-25; and Apostle John refers to Barabbas as a robber, John 18:40). We know that Barabbas had several charges against him: sedition, murder & also robbery, showing how much anger the Jews had in their hearts against Jesus, that such a criminal as Barabbas was thought more worthy of freedom than their Messiah Who only did good to them & came to give His Life for them.
And then we have Barnabas, as you mentioned, with a similar sounding name to Barabbas. Barnabas' actual name was Joseph, but he was called Barnabas because he was known for being an encourager & consoler ( Acts 4:36). And you will learn many more good things about him as you go through the Book of the Acts of the Apostles. Keep up the good work Eric.
Isaiah 58:1-14, Exodus 20:8, Exodus 20:10-11,
Exodus 31:13,14,16, Leviticus 16:31, Leviticus 19:3, Leviticus 19:30, Leviticus 23:1-8, Leviticus 24:8, Leviticus 25:2, Leviticus 25:4, Leviticus 25:17, Jeremiah 17:19-27, Lamentations 1:1-7, Isaiah 1:11-17, Isaiah 56:1-8, Ezekiel 20:12, Ezekiel 22:26,
Amos 8:4-8, Mark 2:27,
Matthew 12:8, Matthew 12:1-27, Mark 3:1-11, Luke 6:6-11, Luke 13:11-17, Luke 14:3-6, Luke 14:12-24, Luke 23:3-56, John 5:1-16, John 7:22-24,
Colossians 2:8-17,
James 2:1-26
In other translation "Jerusalem Bible" "His brightness is like the day, rays flash from his hands, that is where his power lies hidden"
When I researched it: resemblance of the cross, injuries to the Messiah's hands, resurrection of Jesus, the scars remained. Prophecy? John 20:20, * John 20:24-31, *
Psalms 22:16
Psalms 22:1, Matthew 27:46, Mark 15:34,
Mark 15:24-31, Matthew 27:35-42, Psalms 22, John 19:33-37, Luke 23:33-37, Luke 24:36-42,
Mary Magdalene is mentioned: Mark 15:40-47, continues Mark 16:1-14, Matthew 27:55-56 (followed Jesus from Galilee), Matthew 27:59-61, Matthew 28:1-10, Luke 23:49-56 continues Luke 24:1-10,22-24, John 19:25,
Luke 10:38-42, John 20:1-18,
* John 11:1-8, John 11:1-45
* John 12:1-3,
Luke 7:36-50- Luke 8:1-3, same account?
John 12,
Hopefully you enjoy this study.
Luke 1:25, 1 Samuel 1:6, women have cruelly mocked other women many times over this issue & others.
Remember GOD justifies Romans 8:33, Psalms 22:24, be encouraged sis
Proverbs 16:9, Romans 5:1, James 2:22-25,
However the root argument sometimes stem from situational issues of choice which people may be referring to Genesis 38:6-10, then continued reading Tamar was considered "more righteous" Genesis 38:26, pursuing offspring of her dead husbands lineage, which was significant either in justification, reward or preplanned destiny. Matthew 1:3, Genesis 38:29, she is written in the documentation of Jesus lineage. Hebrews 11,
Additional scripture
Act 17:28-29, Malachi 2:15, Isaiah 65:21-24, on their perspective
I hope this was encouraging & helpful
In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).
Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts" then refers to Jesus mission of declaring Victory
If you're referring to something you thought or did before you came to know the Lord, then I personally don't believe you are guilty of this. I think it's closer to the opposite of what the other commenter said. I think it's especially for Christians who already 'know better' and already know the truth, then reject it to the point of calling good evil and evil good and claiming evil motives- perhaps like an ultimate betrayal, and it might also involve denying the holy spirit within you. I hesitate to even write this as an example. A clear example of this blaspheming is Matthew 12:24 by the Pharisees. Jesus logically refuted it, but it's unclear whether He was saying the Pharisees then had no chance to go to heaven, because I don't believe they had true knowledge of the truth yet. I think it's possible Judas committed this as well. It's possible Peter committed this, but was forgiven in a special circumstance, possibly.
My Biblical support for this is Hebrews 10:26 and 2 Peter 2:20-22 and 1 Timothy 1:13 and Hebrews 6:4-6 and Luke 23:34. Maybe more here: Link
This is my personal opinion. Romans 1:20 could be used to suggest otherwise, but it's my opinion that it is only concerning knowing there's a God, not necessarily having the full truth of Jesus Christ and the holy spirit and then denying. I also don't believe falling away qualifies. I think we're talking about a full on rejection and I hate even the thought while writing this, but if it couldn't happen Jesus would not have warned us about it. God bless.
19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
23 And in HELL he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this FLAME.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brothers; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
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Remember when the gards stuck The Lord with the spear it comes out of the Lord exactly blood and wather. John 19:34 But one of the soldiers with a spear pierced his side, and forthwith came there out blood and water. And also
The Lord said: Luke 23:43
And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
King of King have Absolut All rights too have this authority to said soo, and do what ever He want.
That was a terrible day and the days after, it was dark and many ppl stand up from the grave, and evan walked in Jerusalem!
May God bless us all with fully understanding in the right time, in Jesus Holy Name.
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Tomorrow October 21 all believers are invited in Fasting and Prayer for: "The victims, for endurance, faithfulness, and a spirit of Christlike love. Pray for their release and that they could follow the example of Jesus who said of His enemies, "Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do" Luke 23:34
The kidnappers- that they would experience the love of Jesus and turn to Him.
Government leaders and authorities- as they relate to the case and work toward the release of the victims.
This time of difficulty reminds us of the ongoing suffering of millions of Haitians. While our workers chose to serve in Haiti, our Haitian friends endure crisis after crisis, continual violence, and economic hardship. Despite the difficulties and dangers involved with working there, both our Haitian and American workers carry a vision to minister the love of Jesus in Haiti. Our goal is to seize opportunities around the world, even in difficult contexts, to follow the footsteps of Jesus, who "went about doing good".
God bless our faithfulness.
Amen.
Precious brother Chris says: "I cannot find a suitable answer for," and asks Great Questions:
Where does the spirit of man go? Ecclesiastes 12:7 cp James 2:26
me: Does the soul also depart? Genesis 35:18
Is there a holding place for such? And where could this place be?
1) Before The Resurrection Of The LORD JESUS CHRIST, the paradise 'hold' was in "the heart {lower parts} of the earth" Matthew 12:40 Ephesians 4:9, Abraham's bosom, across a chasm from the 'torment' hold Luke 16:19-31 cp Luke 23:43
2) After The Resurrection Of The LORD JESUS CHRIST, paradise is now with The Throne Of God {Third Heaven?}, and Body Of CHRIST 'members' Immediately, upon physical death {'sleep' is the metaphor for the 'dead body'} "Depart to be WITH our Blessed God And Saviour, JESUS CHRIST!" 2 Corinthians 5:6,8 Philippians 1:21,23 'Confirmed' By:
3) ...Those 'asleep In JESUS'..." {metaphor for 'resting' in JESUS}, "...Will God {JESUS} Bring With HIM!" 1 Thessalonians 4:14 At our Great GRACE Departure! 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Amen?
4) Is the "sleep/rest" UNconscious? Scripture?: Luke 16:19-31 cp Revelation 6:9-11
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Ed Bedore says: "A proper understanding of what the Bible teaches about Hell, Sheol, Hades, and the Grave dispels confusion over what happens to the soul at the time of physical death and guards against being led astray by those teaching the false doctrines of soul-sleep, eradication of the soul, the universal reconciliation of mankind, and the annihilation of the lost.":
More can be learned from his Excellent Article about this Bible Doctrine:
Hell, Sheol, Hades, Paradise, and the Grave by W. Edward Bedore
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Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, and Edified!
( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9 = Grace/Mystery fellowship {Romans - Philemon}, For ALL "to SEE," today,?): Link
The thief on the cross next to Jesus? Who asked JESUS when you come into your kingdom remember me.
How do you get to heaven?
You are replying to a comment by "Ed"
Heaven:
Matthew 22:14
Revelation 14:3 144,000 (only taken from the earth Matthew 20:23)
1 Corinthians 15:42-44
Revelation 20 (Only one can be president and only a few
can be co-rulers. when Jehovah/ Psalm 83:18 choses a person...no one can steal that
away (not family, friends or acquaintances etc.). only that person can decide if they want to receive the invitation of reject it. Mark 10:17-31)
Earth: Isa. 45:18
2 Peter 3:13
Psalm 37:9-11,29,34
John 5:28,29
Revelation 21:3-5
Luke 23:42, 43 (Earth will be a paradise again
just like the days of genesis 1,2)
Matthew 11:26-30 (Jesus will comfort those remaining on earth)
Hope this helps
And Jesus said unto (to) him, Verily I say unto thee (to you), To day shalt thou (you shall) be with me in paradise. ("Today" means john 3:16,17. that this criminal will be forgiven by means of his repentance and faith. he will live forever on earth by means of Jesus Christ one for all ransom sacrifice.)
Paradise is on EARTH:
Psalms 37:9-11,29,34
144,000 taken from earth will rule with Christ for 1,000 years
bringing the earth back to Jehovah's ( psalm 83:18) original plan:
Revelation 14:3; 20 Chapter
I hope this helps. Thanks
Acts 7:55
1 Samuel 28
Matthew 17:2
Luke 16 Luke 16:19-31
2 Corinthians 5:6
John 14:2
1 Thessalonians 4
Here are some scriptures I found on the subject, I hope these are helpful.
Luke 23:43
And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.
God bless u with visdom and understanding spirit in Jesus name. Amen
I BELIEVE that Jesus did MAKE A CHOICE; BUT:
Philippians 2:13 For it is God (SPIRIT) that WORKETH IN YOU (in Christ, also) Both TO WILL and TO DO of his (the SPIRIT'S) good pleasure.
John 5:30 I can or MYSELF DO NOTHING: as I hear (the SPIRIT), I judge (by the SPIRIT), and my judgement (by the SPIRIT) is just; because I seek not my own will, but THE WILL of the Father (SPIRIT) which hath SENT ME.
John 10:18 No man taketh IT (LIFE by SPIRIT) from me, but I lay IT (LIFE by SPIRIT) down of myself (I can of myself do nothing). I have power (by the SPIRIT) to take IT (LIFE by SPIRIT) again. This commandment ( John 15:10) have I received of my Father.
Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, into thy hands (God; SPIRIT) I commend my (the Father's) SPIRIT ( Ephesians 4:4 there is ONE BODY, and ONE SPIRIT......)( John 17:21)
Remember the bible is the words of CHRIST (the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit).
Psalms 56:11 IN GOD (SPIRIT) have I (the SON) put my trust: I (the Son) will not be afraid of what man can do to me.
Jesus gave his body of flesh for us, so we are able to never see DEATH; because SPIRIT NEVER DIES.
You MUST be born of the SPIRIT (TRUTH).
I'm not sure what you are working on, this is not to cause debate, I hope you don't mind if I may give some information that may help you on your search. You say they did not know at sundown and that is when Joseph took His body. Jesus was crucified on the Passover day, 14 th of Nisan, which was a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread 15 th - 21 st, which the first day is a holy convocation. That is a sabbath day that the only work you could do is to prepare food to eat. There were two Sabbaths, Friday and Saturday John called it a high day ( John 19:31). ( Exodus 12:3-11) ( Leviticus 23:5-7), ( Numbers 33:1-3)
They had to get Jesus down and in the tomb, before the sun went down, when the sun goes down it starts the next day, the 15 th that started the feast of Unleavened Bread the night they ate the Passover which the first day is a Sabbath. ( Matthew 27:46-50) ( Mark 15:34-37) ( Luke 23:52-56) ( John 19:30-31). The ninth hour is 3 to 4 PM, The preparation and Sabbath they are talking about, the 14 th Passover day, the 15 th, the first day of the feast that will start at sundown.
It may seem a long time from 3 PM to 7 PM but look at what happened after Jesus gave up the ghost, people went to Pilate to partition that the bodies be taken down. He sent the soldiers to go and break their legs at would take a while before they would die. The reason they broke their legs was they could not push up with their legs so they could breathe, so they die of asphyxia.
After that Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate asking for Jesus' body, Nicodemus, a Pharisee that first met Jesus at night not wanting to be seen, brought the spices for the burial. When Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate he did not believe Jesus was dead already, he even sent for the centurion to verify Jesus had died that quickly. You would think 6 hours would be long enough. ( Mark 15:44-45).
I hope this little amount of information will help, 2000 characters are short.
RLW
Good info, but it doesn't square with Joseph at sundown (7 pm) asking the roman soldier if Jesus was dead. The point is they didn't know at sundown, and had to check. The other two criminals were alive at sundown so their legs were broken.
( Luke 23:52-53)
52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.
53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.
How could Jesus have possibly died at 3 pm, 4 hours before sundown, when Joseph took his body?
As you are free to have your beliefs as we all are. I myself believe us in Christ(our spirit/soul) go to be with the Lord, where He is, when we die. As I'm not here to argue with you, as said, you are free to have your beliefs as I am. All I'm going to do is leave a couple Scriptures that pertain our "spirit" does not sleep. 1 Corinthians 15:51. In Luke 16 about two different men being in two different places after death. Then in Luke 23:43 Jesus telling the one man who hung with Him that today "shalt thou be with Me in paradise".
Again I'm not here to change your mind or argue anything. As maybe some people do sleep till judgement. Though I believe us in Christ go to be with the Lord when our physical bodies are done. As we are His.
God Bless you brother Adam.
I firmly believe that when we die, our soul goes immediately into the presence of the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:1 says, "For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle (physical body) were dissolved (physical death), we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
Paul goes on to say in Verse 6, "Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body (physically alive right now), we are absent from the Lord:"
But then in Verse 8, he says, "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord."
Please notice that when we're here, the Lord's with us but we're not with Him in heaven. But as soon as you are absent from the body, as soon as you experience death, which means separation, as soon as your spirit leaves your body, you're in the presence of the Lord.
Paul said that his physical death would be far better for him than remaining alive because he knew that he would be in the presence of Christ. That is given to us in Philippians 1:23.
In Acts 7:59, at the stoning of Stephen, it tells us that as they were stoning him, he was calling upon God. And this is the thing that Stephen said first of all when they were stoning him. He said Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. It reminds me of Luke 23:46, "And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said Father, into thy hands I commend my Spirit. And having said thus, He expired or gave up the ghost."
So, when we die, our physical body goes into the grave and waits until the resurrection where we will receive a new glorified body. But at death, our soul separates from the physical body and goes to be with the Lord immediately.
In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).
Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise, to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the lower parts refers to Jesus mission of declaring Victory!