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  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 27 - 3 years ago
    Margery, you can read that account in Luke 23:39-43.
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Luke 23:43

    Acts 7:55

    1 Samuel 28

    Matthew 17:2

    Luke 16 Luke 16:19-31

    2 Corinthians 5:6

    John 14:2

    1 Thessalonians 4

    Here are some scriptures I found on the subject, I hope these are helpful.
  • Free - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hallo dear friend in Christ. Dont forget that day in Golgata, Jesus Him Self told the robber who hang beside Him.

    Luke 23:43

    And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise.

    God bless u with visdom and understanding spirit in Jesus name. Amen
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Brother Carleton:

    I BELIEVE that Jesus did MAKE A CHOICE; BUT:

    Philippians 2:13 For it is God (SPIRIT) that WORKETH IN YOU (in Christ, also) Both TO WILL and TO DO of his (the SPIRIT'S) good pleasure.

    John 5:30 I can or MYSELF DO NOTHING: as I hear (the SPIRIT), I judge (by the SPIRIT), and my judgement (by the SPIRIT) is just; because I seek not my own will, but THE WILL of the Father (SPIRIT) which hath SENT ME.

    John 10:18 No man taketh IT (LIFE by SPIRIT) from me, but I lay IT (LIFE by SPIRIT) down of myself (I can of myself do nothing). I have power (by the SPIRIT) to take IT (LIFE by SPIRIT) again. This commandment ( John 15:10) have I received of my Father.

    Luke 23:46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, into thy hands (God; SPIRIT) I commend my (the Father's) SPIRIT ( Ephesians 4:4 there is ONE BODY, and ONE SPIRIT......)( John 17:21)

    Remember the bible is the words of CHRIST (the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit).

    Psalms 56:11 IN GOD (SPIRIT) have I (the SON) put my trust: I (the Son) will not be afraid of what man can do to me.

    Jesus gave his body of flesh for us, so we are able to never see DEATH; because SPIRIT NEVER DIES.

    You MUST be born of the SPIRIT (TRUTH).
  • Dianne - In Reply on John 3 - 3 years ago
    Thanks I meant to say according to Luke 23:55+56 they brought spices an ointments, thanhs or terminology correction.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Carry Lennert,

    I'm not sure what you are working on, this is not to cause debate, I hope you don't mind if I may give some information that may help you on your search. You say they did not know at sundown and that is when Joseph took His body. Jesus was crucified on the Passover day, 14 th of Nisan, which was a preparation day for the Feast of Unleavened Bread 15 th - 21 st, which the first day is a holy convocation. That is a sabbath day that the only work you could do is to prepare food to eat. There were two Sabbaths, Friday and Saturday John called it a high day ( John 19:31). ( Exodus 12:3-11) ( Leviticus 23:5-7), ( Numbers 33:1-3)

    They had to get Jesus down and in the tomb, before the sun went down, when the sun goes down it starts the next day, the 15 th that started the feast of Unleavened Bread the night they ate the Passover which the first day is a Sabbath. ( Matthew 27:46-50) ( Mark 15:34-37) ( Luke 23:52-56) ( John 19:30-31). The ninth hour is 3 to 4 PM, The preparation and Sabbath they are talking about, the 14 th Passover day, the 15 th, the first day of the feast that will start at sundown.

    It may seem a long time from 3 PM to 7 PM but look at what happened after Jesus gave up the ghost, people went to Pilate to partition that the bodies be taken down. He sent the soldiers to go and break their legs at would take a while before they would die. The reason they broke their legs was they could not push up with their legs so they could breathe, so they die of asphyxia.

    After that Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate asking for Jesus' body, Nicodemus, a Pharisee that first met Jesus at night not wanting to be seen, brought the spices for the burial. When Joseph of Arimathaea went to Pilate he did not believe Jesus was dead already, he even sent for the centurion to verify Jesus had died that quickly. You would think 6 hours would be long enough. ( Mark 15:44-45).

    I hope this little amount of information will help, 2000 characters are short.

    RLW
  • Carry Lennert - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Ronald L Whittemore.

    Good info, but it doesn't square with Joseph at sundown (7 pm) asking the roman soldier if Jesus was dead. The point is they didn't know at sundown, and had to check. The other two criminals were alive at sundown so their legs were broken.

    ( Luke 23:52-53)

    52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.

    53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.

    How could Jesus have possibly died at 3 pm, 4 hours before sundown, when Joseph took his body?
  • Richard in Christ - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi brother Adam,

    As you are free to have your beliefs as we all are. I myself believe us in Christ(our spirit/soul) go to be with the Lord, where He is, when we die. As I'm not here to argue with you, as said, you are free to have your beliefs as I am. All I'm going to do is leave a couple Scriptures that pertain our "spirit" does not sleep. 1 Corinthians 15:51. In Luke 16 about two different men being in two different places after death. Then in Luke 23:43 Jesus telling the one man who hung with Him that today "shalt thou be with Me in paradise".

    Again I'm not here to change your mind or argue anything. As maybe some people do sleep till judgement. Though I believe us in Christ go to be with the Lord when our physical bodies are done. As we are His.

    God Bless you brother Adam.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Matthew 12:2 - 4 years ago
    Linda,

    I firmly believe that when we die, our soul goes immediately into the presence of the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:1 says, "For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle (physical body) were dissolved (physical death), we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

    Paul goes on to say in Verse 6, "Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body (physically alive right now), we are absent from the Lord:"

    But then in Verse 8, he says, "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord."

    Please notice that when we're here, the Lord's with us but we're not with Him in heaven. But as soon as you are absent from the body, as soon as you experience death, which means separation, as soon as your spirit leaves your body, you're in the presence of the Lord.

    Paul said that his physical death would be far better for him than remaining alive because he knew that he would be in the presence of Christ. That is given to us in Philippians 1:23.

    In Acts 7:59, at the stoning of Stephen, it tells us that as they were stoning him, he was calling upon God. And this is the thing that Stephen said first of all when they were stoning him. He said Lord Jesus, receive my spirit. It reminds me of Luke 23:46, "And when Jesus had cried out with a loud voice, He said Father, into thy hands I commend my Spirit. And having said thus, He expired or gave up the ghost."

    So, when we die, our physical body goes into the grave and waits until the resurrection where we will receive a new glorified body. But at death, our soul separates from the physical body and goes to be with the Lord immediately.
  • Best Way To Know Where we Go At Death - In Reply on Isaiah 56 - 4 years ago
    Some believe that while Jesus' body was in the tomb, His spirit was in hell.Scripture doesn't support that position when it is taken in context and we look at the meaning of the word "hell." In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.

    In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)

    For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).

    Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise, to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the lower parts refers to Jesus mission of declaring Victory!
  • Jesus39s Victory over Captivity - In Reply on Mark 10 - 4 years ago
    Some believe that while Jesus' body was in the tomb, His spirit was in hell.Scripture doesn't support that position when it is taken in context and we look at the meaning of the word "hell." In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.

    In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)

    For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).

    Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts"refers to Jesus mission of declaring Victory!
  • Names and Places of Hell on Genesis 3 - 4 years ago
    Some believe that while Jesus' body was in the tomb, His spirit was in hell.Scripture doesn't support that position when it is taken in context and we look at the meaning of the word "hell." In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.

    In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)

    For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).

    Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise, to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts" then refers to Jesus declaring Victory.

    M.
  • Names of Hell on Genesis 3 - 4 years ago
    Some believe that while Jesus' body was in the tomb, His spirit was in hell.Scripture doesn't support that position when it is taken in context and we look at the meaning of the word "hell." In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL."It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.

    In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)

    For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).

    When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts" then refers to Jesus mission of declaring freedom too all inmates.
  • Homer - In Reply on Luke 23:43 - 4 years ago
    God is doing pretty good unfolding the mystery. His plan is right on schedule.
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Luke 23:43 - 4 years ago
    PD, Kim and Audrey,

    "And Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, To day shalt thou be with me in paradise." Luk 23:43

    On the cross Jesus' physical body lost life. He died. But His Spirit and our spirits when we die, live on.

    Paul revealed to us:

    "Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord: (For we walk by faith, not by sight:) We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord." 2Co 5:6-8

    In the New Testament, paradise is mentioned three times. Here it refers to the abode of the righteous dead.
  • PD - In Reply on Luke 23:43 - 4 years ago
    The Scripture Luke 23:43

    God is everywhere at all times so why are folks questioning ... Today in Paradise?

    Nothing is to hard and nothing is impossible with God. Stop limiting God. The Trinity has no limits like mankind do
  • Sacha - In Reply on Luke 23 - 4 years ago
    Thankyou for your excellent and informative post ,hope to read more from you .
  • John M Swanson - In Reply on Luke 23 - 4 years ago
    In this scene the Jews did not understand that this drama of Jesus and Barabbas is the same as what the Jews had been doing for centuries. The high priest would bring two goats to the temple. They would both be brought into the Holiest of Holies, behind the curtain and showed there to God. One goat would be taken out and led far out into the wilderness and set free. That goat was the scape goat. The other was slaughtered and its blood offered.

    Barabbas was the scape goat and Jesus was the goat slaughtered. The Jews should have easily recognized this but for our sakes, (Gentiles) they were blinded and Jesus was put to death. The innocent for the guilty. Barabbas was guilty of crimes while Jesus was innocent of sin. I thank God for this truth. When we trust in Jesus Christ just as the thief on the cross did, we too can have forgiveness of sin. Our sin was nailed to His cross and I bear it no more. Praise the Lord.
  • John M Swanson - In Reply on Luke 23:31 - 4 years ago
    Yes, amen. I woke up this morning early with this thought on my mind concerning this passage of scripture. Jesus was also indicating that when they (The world) commit sin during good times, what will they do when things are not so good. For Jesus, that moment was quickly passing as He went to the cross. He knew shortly He would be with His Father and there was trouble ahead for the Jews. He knew it would get much worse for all of them.
  • SkipVought - In Reply on Luke 23:31 - 4 years ago
    John, this is a wonderful thought. Thank you.

    This was Jesus' response to women who were distraught and crying as Jesus was being lead to Golgotha to be crucified. He had been beaten repeatedly the previous night and into the early morning, slapped, spit on, crowned with thorns, hauled before the Jewish high priest, King Herod and Roman Governor Pilate and now, about to be crucified at 9:00 am. He pauses on His way long enough to utter these words to the sobbing women...

    "Daughters of Jerusalem, weep not for me, but weep for yourselves, and for your children. For, behold, the days are coming, in the which they shall say, Blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave suck. Then shall they begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us; and to the hills, Cover us. For if they do these things in a green tree, what shall be done in the dry?" Luk 23:28-31
  • John M Swanson on Luke 23:31 - 4 years ago
    This saying of Jesus is this. He said if they do it in the green tree what shall become of the dry? Jesus is the chief cornerstone. He is of course speaking about persecution. He knew very well what was going to happen in 70 Ad when Titus came and destroyed Jerusalem. The temple was razed and not one stone was upon another. If they persecuted Me, they shall also persecute you. Our world right now in Feb, 2021 is nearing the time when they who hate Jesus and His message will come against those who are His true followers. Jesus is the green tree. He was and is fruitful and is bearing fruit. We as well should be following Him and yes even unto persecution if and when it comes. He told them not to weep for Him but weep for yourselves because a terrible time is coming. Those words are prophetic words and He knew very well He was speaking in terms of the near and distant future. Know this, God knows how to protect His own. He also says He will never leave us or forsake us in times of trouble. We can always count on the truth that Jesus is our true Shephard and He will lead us into green pastures. Heaven. No matter what we face now, the green pastures in Heaven await the faithful. Remain strong in the faith come what may.
  • Chris - In Reply on Leviticus 13 - 4 years ago
    The only mention of "jurisdiction" is in Luke 23:7 & applied to Herod's jurisdiction. Pontius Pilate was the Roman procurator assigned by the Roman government. Whereas Herod Antipas, was not of Roman birth, but from a mixed parentage of Idumean & Arabian. He was therefore assigned by Rome as King (the Tetrarch) over Galilee & Perea, therefore Pilate was more than willing to pass Jesus onto Herod, as Pilate knew nothing of or cared little about Jewish matters & arguments. So, when we read of Herod's jurisdiction, it means that Jesus was assigned to Herod, as Herod had control over that part of Roman territory in which Jesus was born & lived.
  • Rod - In Reply on Ephesians 2 - 4 years ago
    When you say we are told not to change the bible, I'm happy that we agree on something, when you talk of the many different bible versions, I'm also aware that there is, but chose to only read the KJV, I'm sure they're meant to be more relevant to today's english but as in 2 Corinthians 11:12-15 Satan can transform himself into an angel of light and deceive many, just by changing a few words. Fornication is most certainly a terrible sin throughout society today and also in biblical times, and is mentioned 35 times in the KJV but when you look at Romans 1:20-32 and Galations 5:14-26 it is only one of many sins of the flesh. "Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents," to name just a few. John 8:3-11 Jesus forgive a woman caught in adultery, John 4:6-43 the Samaritan woman at the well living in fornication was one of the first women evangelist. Luke 18:10-14 "The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican." he was not justified, Luke 23:43 the first person Jesus took to paradise was a thief on the cross. Sin in whatever form is evil in God's eyes, but I'm sure your well aware of that. Just as God judged the people in Sodom and Gomorrah and in Noah's day, I try (sometimes I fail) to let God judge the transgressors of today, and focus on the narrow road to the cross for my Salvation. Because as in Luke 17:32 "Remember Lot's wife." we don't want to turn into that pillar of salt.

    Some of my favorite scripture to help me keep things in perspective is the Beatitudes and sermon on the mount, and also Luke 10:27-37 the story of the good Samaritan.

    For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: [it is] the gift of God:

    Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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  • Chris - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 4 years ago
    Luke 23:34. However, this wasn't the Lord's last words as you read through that chapter (see verse 46).
  • Rev Jack C Gutknecht on Hebrews 2:4 - 4 years ago
    I love the hymn, "Behold the Dying Savior"

    Hebrews 2:9; Luke 23:33

    Ah, poor sinner, think of Calv'ry,

    Of the One who suffered there;

    Do you know He died in mercy,

    All your load of guilt to bear?

    Jesus-oh, that name so precious!-

    "Tasted death for every man,"

    And His blood will purge thy conscience

    From the deepest crimson stain.

    Daniel S. Warner
  • Leroy Niehenke on Luke 23 - 4 years ago
    The Jews insisted to Pilot that Jesus should be crusified instead of Barabbas who was pardoned who was the third person hat was crusified that day?
  • Juan on Luke 23 - 4 years ago
    What happend to pointus pilate
  • John - In Reply on Hebrews 1 - 4 years ago
    Linda, to answer your question simply put, no. Jesus said in ( John 3:3) "Verily, verily I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he can not see the kingdom of God." meaning that we must some how be reborn to go to heaven. Some will assert that ( John 3:5) shows that we must be baptized by water, and receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit to be saved, This is easily refuted with scripture. Remember God cannot lie ( Titus 1:2) Therefore, Scripture cannot contradict itself. If God required baptism for salvation, then Jesus Christ lied to the thief on the cross. ( Luke 23:43) Jesus IS God ( John 1:1). He CANNOT lie. God made the way to heaven very simple, so easy that even a child can understand and accept. It is not based on our works ( Ephesians 2:8-9) but on our faith in Christ and His FINISHED work on the cross. We must first understand that we are a sinner in need of a Savior. ( Romans 3:23) ... When we see that there is a penalty for our sin. ( Romans 6:23) That we cannot pay the penalty on our own, but Jesus Christ, loved us so much that He came, lived the perfect life, fulfilled the law, and became sin for us on the cross to pay our sin debt for us. ( Romans 5:8) Then believing the gospel by faith, we accept the GIFT of God, confess our belief in Him, and ask Him to save us. ( Romans 10:9-13) There are MEN who will take God's gift and want to say that in order to receive it you will need to do this or that, but whenever we add WORKS to the equation the GIFT ceases to be a gift. Repentance is a turning from self and a turning toward Christ.
  • Names of Hell Others on Mark 1 - 4 years ago
    Some believe that while Jesus' body was in the tomb, His spirit was in hell.Scripture doesn't support that position when it is taken in context and we look at the meaning of the word "hell." In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.

    In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)

    For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS"meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26)

    Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts"refers to Jesus declaring victory over death.
  • What Happens When You Die - In Reply on Genesis 6:2 - 4 years ago
    2 Corinthians 5:6

    Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

    2 Corinthians 5:8

    We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be PRESENT with the Lord.

    2 Corinthians 5:9

    Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.

    Colossians 2:5

    For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.

    Michael:

    When an unbeliever in our Savior Jesus Christ, dies physically: the body resides wherever loved ones buried it, or where it fell dead. The soul separates from it and is kept in a holding place until the Great White Throne Judgment occurs.

    Christians that die; their physical bodies lay in a grave or wherever they died: and await the Shout of Jesus at the moment of the Rapture. Jesus will transform them into the resurrection body: body, soul, spirit.

    [In the Old Testament, the place of the dead or the place of departed souls was called "SHEOL." It was to this place that all souls of the dead went to await resurrection.

    In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43) ]

    Now that you know these things; what are you going to do about Jesus?

    Matt.24, Luke 21


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