The problem here is the same problem that has existed since the time of Christ.
The Bible tells us that it is the actual Word of God, yes written by human writers, but inspired and breathed out by God Himself. How do we know this to be true? For those of us who are truly christians, we have a personal relationship with God, through the Lord Jesus Christ.
No-one can tell me that this is a figment of my imagination, because it is a daily living experience and reality for me. Furthermore, no-one can tell me that the Bible is false, because I know the one who authored it and have proved it to be true in my daily life.
Of course, those who do not have this relationship with God will always mock and doubt, because they do not have the same personal experience. Sadly, the Bible says unless such individuals repent and turn to God now, they will have chosen to spend eternity away from God, in a place of hell.
Some will read this and laugh - doesn't matter to me, some will agree - it all depends of course where you stand before God. See John chapter 3 verse 16.
Steve's comment says "if the Bible says that something happened then it happened". Then why do the accounts of "Luke" and "Matthew" differ? This testimony is all hearsay and the gospel writers (who are NOT eyewitnesses) can't keep their stories straight! There is NO proof that Nazareth was even a town in the 1st century CE. Jesus being born in Bethlehem in fulfillment of the scriptures is not prophesying! I could go on and on. People, demand better evidence before committing yourself to a untenable belief. As was said by Mark Twain “faith is believing in something that just ain’t so”.
John 1:1 Tells us that "The Word was god" in John 1:14 it says "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us ! " then it talks about how we beheld his "glory" .. let me add this .. In Isaiah (which is the Old Testament) 42:8 , It says " i am the Lord: that is my name: and my 'glory' will i not give to another ~ and in 1 Corinthians 2:8 is says " which none of the princes of this world knew: for had that known it, they would not have crucified the 'Lord of glory'. They would not have crucified Jesus if they knew that he was god wrapped in flesh! Let me add 1 Timothy 3:16 .. "And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit,soon of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world,received up into *glory* " !! I'll add more for you to look up ! John 1:10-11-12 . And the only way of receiving salvation is through his name! which is through Acts 2:38 .. And to finish it off .. Luke 2:11 " For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the "Lord" .. Ephesians 4:5 " One Lord, One Faith, One Baptism ! "
The whole point is that God sent His son to be born. Without the holy birth of Jesus we would have no Saviour we would just have some man.
But God sent His only begotten son to save us from our sin. To redeem man from his sin state so he can have access to the Almighty. v10 v11
Luke reminds me of where I came from and what I have been delivered from that I am re=born, Christ's birth is a picture of my holy rebirth from sinner to saint ,that I desire the holy things of God now. That I have been reborn by a holy God and am being purified by Him through living for Him and giving my life to Him.
The word of God came wrapped in flesh and laid in a manger. The world had no place for Him then and no place for Him now;but, thanks be to God He resides in men's hearts through the power of the Holy Ghost. Obey Acts 2:37,38.
I Just loved the book of Luke because of the birth of Jesus and how Mary came to be with child with him just amazes me every time I hear or read Luke,also I love the story of the sinful woman anointing Jesus' feet with her most expensive perfume and Jesus forgave her of all her sins!!! What a mighty God I serve,This book of Luke is a blessing to me , No matter how many times i read it!!!
Mary had a little lamb but I'm not worried bout his feet being white as snow what can we give a god who has everything we have to be mindfully of who we are and what we are if we give him a flower we don't have to worry bout it cuz he is already the lilly of the valley try him that's y he say prove him now he will open up a window and pour u out a blessing u can't be GODS giving no matter how hard u try what can I give for a god who has everything? Are u willing to take up your cross and follow Jesus I'm able to say thank you Jesus and with your stripes I am healed he died but early Sunday morning he rose again are u willing to make your body a living sacrifice when I think of what he has done my soul cries....... The earth is the lords and the fullness there of a poor mans sacrifice
Well to put it plainly PRAISE God for HIS unspeakable gift of HID dear Son, our LORD and Saviour. I praise HIM for coming down to walk with us, to live with us, and to sleep with us and learn of us and especially to take my place at Calvary. We cannot have Christmas wothout the cross. God bless.
You do know that this census did not happen? Furthermore, what is the point in sending ppl to their places of birth to be counted? the point of a census is to know where ppl are NOW so you can tax them and bring them services. Imagine the ridiculous chaos if everyone had to go to their birthplaces! The Romans did not do foolish things like that. This whole nativity story was tacked on to the Jesus legend in order to 'prove' he was born in Bethlehem and therefore was the Messiah. It's manifestly clear he came from Galilee. However, this does tend to prove he really existed, for otherwise Luke could have just said,Jesus was born and grew up in Bethlehem, the fact he didn't say it, argues there were ppl who remembered Jesus growing up in Galilee. The birth story could perhaps be just got away with, but not saying he lived there.
That means that Mary and her children changed their minds, after attempt to catch Jesus and (probably) send him to asylum, being sure that he is gone mad. That is described in the third chapter of Mark. But what about her blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, which is an unpardonable sin? And what happened with the prophecy of Simeon who promised her the sword to pierce through her soul, Luke 2:35? Something badly stinks here...
well i have a question regarding this Luke 2:23, Ex 13:12, Nu 18:15. God said all first born children is presented to the Lord for dedication. If a person has 3 sons and rest 2 will not represent to the house of the Lord. Pls explain what to do rest 2nd & 3rd born children according to the Laws. Afzal Iqbal from Pakistan.
Even though no specific/literal words in the bible that Mary's delivered her second child and so on. But I agree/infavor to the preacher who preach that Mary's after the birth of Jesus, Mary's delivered brothers & sisters of Jesus. For the reason in Mat. 13: 53-55 - we can read the brothers of Jesus with their names. Second, in John 7:1-3 - the brothers of Jesus did not believed on Him. Third, in Gal. 1: 18-20 - the confessioned of Paul that James is one of the Lord's brother. Another verse to prove that Mary's delivered a child after Jesus in Luke 2:7 - Mary's brought her firstborn son. The word firstborn son is easily understood that there will be a second child, third and so forth. But, if we read in Luke 2:7 - that Mary's brought her only begotten son nobody can argued that Jesus has no brothers & sisters.
derek,
I was reminded by the Lord's Holy WORD as follows!
DOERS OF THE SCRIPTURE ARE NEEDED BIGTIME!
Come on now. You really need to read this carefully. SCRIPTURE IS PLAIN. SCRIPTURE IS THE ONLY WAY WE KNOW JESUS! MANY only go to church on sun-day because the catholics made them. They changed the calendar and PASSED IT DOWN AS MAN'S TRADITION. They DID NOT ADHERE TO SCRIPTURE, AND THEREBY FORGOT TO REMEMBER TO KEEP THE SABBATH DAY HOLY. THIS is not being said lightly. TRADITIONS CONTRADICT SCRIPTURE. WHEN THEY DO THEY MUST BE PUT DOWN IN FAVOR OF HOLY SCRIPTURE. IF not we don't have any faith in what the scripture says because FAITH COMETH BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD! Those that changed sabbath to sunday have abandoned the faith that cometh by hearing that comes by the word of God. Go ahead study to show thyself approved and don't trust any man. Let EVERY MAN be A LIAR BUT LET GOD BE TRUE! HE IS TRUE IN HIS WORD!
Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exodus 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Psalm 119:6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Now, some may quote 2 Corinthians 3:6 "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."
But what is also TRUE THROUGH AND THROUGH IS THIS SCRIPTURE FROM JESUS HIMSELF THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS: " John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
What "letter" of the law is being spoken of here? Is it the letter of the law that is indicated in the following scripture? 2 Peter 1:20-21 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." Is it the "letter" of the law that is being spoken of in this scripture? 2 Timothy 3:15-17 "And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
ALL SCRIPTURE includes old an new testament. Circumcision of the male organ is the judaizing factor which is ABSOLUTELY NOT NECESSARY unless it involves the "CIRCUMCISION OF THE HEART FROM AN EVIL HEART OF UNBELIEF."
Jesus said to keep His commandments! One of them is to remember to keep the sabbath day holy as a sign of Him as we await and prepare for His coming. the catholic church changed the calendar to sunday, the first day of the week and the catholics will boast and brag quite boldly that they did because of their IMMENSE POWER. So much is their boldness that they berate protestants who SAY they believe the bible first and foremost for their not keeping the SCRIPTURAL SABBATH. Catholics despise what they call sola scriptura and if they see waffling or weakness or inadherence to the scriptures by those that SAY they adhere to scripture first and foremost, they take every opportunity to impugn their RESOLVE, because they SAY and DO NOT DO!
JESUS IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS. The New Testament is NO REPLACWEMENT OF THE OLD. IT IS THE FULFILLMENT! Need proof! Here are some EXPLICIT references AS WRITTEN IN THE King James Bible, TRUE THROUGH AND THROUGH IN EVERY WORD!
Matthew 1:22
Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
Matthew 2:15
And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Matthew 2:17
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,
Matthew 2:23
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 4:14
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
Matthew 8:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
Matthew 12:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
Matthew 13:14
And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Matthew 13:35
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
Matthew 21:4
All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying,
Matthew 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Matthew 26:54
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Matthew 27:9
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;
Matthew 27:35
And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
Mark 1:15
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Mark 13:4
Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?
Mark 14:49
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Mark 15:28
And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.
Luke 1:20
And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.
Luke 2:43
And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
Luke 4:21
And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
Luke 21:22
For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Luke 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Put away yuor tradition and take up the tradition of GOD ACCORDING TO HIS WORD. HIS WORD IS PLAINLY TRUE. IF you can read it, you can rely on it, even if you do not fully understand it. Ask and YE shall receive will take care of that part. Any lesser standard of belief in HIS HOLY WORD, is accepting the traditions of men and those are the "LETTERS" that "KILL" and those are what JESUS DECRIED AND BERATED THE PHARISEES ABOUT.
If you still insist the Sabbath, the token of JESUS CHRIST AND MESSIAH is not important or "JEWISH", since when have you as a believer in JESUS been CUT OUT OF THE OLIVE TREE'S ROOT AND FATNESS. You as a believer in JESUS ARE GRAFTED IN TO THE ROOT AND FATNESS THAT IS JESUS OUR KING. The Jews wre broken off for unbelief, and do you think you with unbelief will fare any better? Look it up. If it says "unto all your generations" or "perpetually" or "everlasting" etc. do we disregard that these words have EXTREMELY important meanings to ALL BELIEVERS? If you will keep the tradition of separation and GOD FORBID hatred of JEWS, YOU HAVE IGNORED the STORY OF RUTH AND THE WORDS OF THIS GENTILE MOABITESS HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN. LET THEM NEVER FALL FROM YOUR LIPS. "YOUR GOD SHALL BE MY GOD AND YOUR PEOPLE SHALL BE MY PEOPLE!"
STOP WITH THE TRADITION ALREADY! DO IT ACCORDING TO THE PLAIN WORD OF GOD, HIS WORDS ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE!!!!
In Gal. 1:18-20, Paul says that James is the brother of Jesus. I believe/infavor to the preacher who preach bravely that Jesus has a brothers/sisters based on the writing of the apostles. In Luke 2:7, Mary's brought her first born son. The word first born son easily understood that whe will deliver next son, second, third & so forth. But if the word used Mary's brought her only begotten son nobody's can argued nor debate. Another verse to testify that Jesus has a brothers/sisters through their neighbors confession with a names in Mat. 13: 55-57. Also in John 7: 3-5, his brothers did not believe in Him. This is the reason I believe to the preacher who preach that Jesus the son of Mary has a brothers/sisters.
lorie, Jesus is speaking of the work He was to do. If you cross reference Luke 2:49, and Luke 4:4 it will give you a better understanding of what Jesus is speaking of.
The problem here is the same problem that has existed since the time of Christ.
The Bible tells us that it is the actual Word of God, yes written by human writers, but inspired and breathed out by God Himself. How do we know this to be true? For those of us who are truly christians, we have a personal relationship with God, through the Lord Jesus Christ.
No-one can tell me that this is a figment of my imagination, because it is a daily living experience and reality for me. Furthermore, no-one can tell me that the Bible is false, because I know the one who authored it and have proved it to be true in my daily life.
Of course, those who do not have this relationship with God will always mock and doubt, because they do not have the same personal experience. Sadly, the Bible says unless such individuals repent and turn to God now, they will have chosen to spend eternity away from God, in a place of hell.
Some will read this and laugh - doesn't matter to me, some will agree - it all depends of course where you stand before God. See John chapter 3 verse 16.
But God sent His only begotten son to save us from our sin. To redeem man from his sin state so he can have access to the Almighty. v10 v11
Luke reminds me of where I came from and what I have been delivered from that I am re=born, Christ's birth is a picture of my holy rebirth from sinner to saint ,that I desire the holy things of God now. That I have been reborn by a holy God and am being purified by Him through living for Him and giving my life to Him.
Saviour
I was reminded by the Lord's Holy WORD as follows!
DOERS OF THE SCRIPTURE ARE NEEDED BIGTIME!
Come on now. You really need to read this carefully. SCRIPTURE IS PLAIN. SCRIPTURE IS THE ONLY WAY WE KNOW JESUS! MANY only go to church on sun-day because the catholics made them. They changed the calendar and PASSED IT DOWN AS MAN'S TRADITION. They DID NOT ADHERE TO SCRIPTURE, AND THEREBY FORGOT TO REMEMBER TO KEEP THE SABBATH DAY HOLY. THIS is not being said lightly. TRADITIONS CONTRADICT SCRIPTURE. WHEN THEY DO THEY MUST BE PUT DOWN IN FAVOR OF HOLY SCRIPTURE. IF not we don't have any faith in what the scripture says because FAITH COMETH BY HEARING AND HEARING BY THE WORD OF GOD! Those that changed sabbath to sunday have abandoned the faith that cometh by hearing that comes by the word of God. Go ahead study to show thyself approved and don't trust any man. Let EVERY MAN be A LIAR BUT LET GOD BE TRUE! HE IS TRUE IN HIS WORD!
Exodus 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exodus 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Psalm 119:6 Then shall I not be ashamed, when I have respect unto all thy commandments.
John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
John 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
Now, some may quote 2 Corinthians 3:6 "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life."
But what is also TRUE THROUGH AND THROUGH IS THIS SCRIPTURE FROM JESUS HIMSELF THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS: " John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life."
What "letter" of the law is being spoken of here? Is it the letter of the law that is indicated in the following scripture? 2 Peter 1:20-21 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." Is it the "letter" of the law that is being spoken of in this scripture? 2 Timothy 3:15-17 "And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works."
ALL SCRIPTURE includes old an new testament. Circumcision of the male organ is the judaizing factor which is ABSOLUTELY NOT NECESSARY unless it involves the "CIRCUMCISION OF THE HEART FROM AN EVIL HEART OF UNBELIEF."
Jesus said to keep His commandments! One of them is to remember to keep the sabbath day holy as a sign of Him as we await and prepare for His coming. the catholic church changed the calendar to sunday, the first day of the week and the catholics will boast and brag quite boldly that they did because of their IMMENSE POWER. So much is their boldness that they berate protestants who SAY they believe the bible first and foremost for their not keeping the SCRIPTURAL SABBATH. Catholics despise what they call sola scriptura and if they see waffling or weakness or inadherence to the scriptures by those that SAY they adhere to scripture first and foremost, they take every opportunity to impugn their RESOLVE, because they SAY and DO NOT DO!
JESUS IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS. The New Testament is NO REPLACWEMENT OF THE OLD. IT IS THE FULFILLMENT! Need proof! Here are some EXPLICIT references AS WRITTEN IN THE King James Bible, TRUE THROUGH AND THROUGH IN EVERY WORD!
Matthew 1:22
Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying,
Matthew 2:15
And was there until the death of Herod: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Out of Egypt have I called my son.
Matthew 2:17
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremiah the prophet, saying,
Matthew 2:23
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Matthew 4:14
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
Matthew 8:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bare our sicknesses.
Matthew 12:17
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying,
Matthew 13:14
And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive:
Matthew 13:35
That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.
Matthew 21:4
All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying,
Matthew 24:34
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Matthew 26:54
But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
Matthew 26:56
But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled.
Matthew 27:9
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;
Matthew 27:35
And they crucified him, and parted his garments, casting lots: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
Mark 1:15
And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Mark 13:4
Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?
Mark 14:49
I was daily with you in the temple teaching, and ye took me not: but the scriptures must be fulfilled.
Mark 15:28
And the scripture was fulfilled, which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.
Luke 1:20
And, behold, thou shalt be dumb, and not able to speak, until the day that these things shall be performed, because thou believest not my words, which shall be fulfilled in their season.
Luke 2:43
And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
Luke 4:21
And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
Luke 21:22
For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
Luke 21:24
And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
Put away yuor tradition and take up the tradition of GOD ACCORDING TO HIS WORD. HIS WORD IS PLAINLY TRUE. IF you can read it, you can rely on it, even if you do not fully understand it. Ask and YE shall receive will take care of that part. Any lesser standard of belief in HIS HOLY WORD, is accepting the traditions of men and those are the "LETTERS" that "KILL" and those are what JESUS DECRIED AND BERATED THE PHARISEES ABOUT.
If you still insist the Sabbath, the token of JESUS CHRIST AND MESSIAH is not important or "JEWISH", since when have you as a believer in JESUS been CUT OUT OF THE OLIVE TREE'S ROOT AND FATNESS. You as a believer in JESUS ARE GRAFTED IN TO THE ROOT AND FATNESS THAT IS JESUS OUR KING. The Jews wre broken off for unbelief, and do you think you with unbelief will fare any better? Look it up. If it says "unto all your generations" or "perpetually" or "everlasting" etc. do we disregard that these words have EXTREMELY important meanings to ALL BELIEVERS? If you will keep the tradition of separation and GOD FORBID hatred of JEWS, YOU HAVE IGNORED the STORY OF RUTH AND THE WORDS OF THIS GENTILE MOABITESS HAVE BEEN FORGOTTEN. LET THEM NEVER FALL FROM YOUR LIPS. "YOUR GOD SHALL BE MY GOD AND YOUR PEOPLE SHALL BE MY PEOPLE!"
STOP WITH THE TRADITION ALREADY! DO IT ACCORDING TO THE PLAIN WORD OF GOD, HIS WORDS ARE SPIRIT AND THEY ARE LIFE!!!!