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Old Testament law: Deuteronomy 16:16, Exodus 34:23,24, Deuteronomy 31:11, Exodus 23:17, the dates of calendars have changed even the Hebrew / Jewish calendars. Moses through GOD established the beginning of the year to be the Passover, no calendar today honors that. Exodus 12:2, Exodus 12, Numbers 28:16,

Jesus honored these things, along with His parents (on earth) Luke 2:22,23, Luke 2:41-49, John 4:45, John 5:1, John 10:22,23, even those who opposed Jesus expected Jesus to honor the appointed days : John 11:54-57, John 12, Even facing His own brutal death: Matthew 20:17,18 , Mark 10:32,33,34 do you think HE knew He was the Lamb,: Luke 2:38, Luke 18:31, that was going to be slain for Passover? That's why HE told them, as HE obediently set his face to go? Luke 9:51,

Matthew 21

Micah 6:6-8,

John 4:21-24, 2Corinthians 6:2, 2Colossains 2:16,17, Hebrews 10:1-19, Matthew 18:20,

Hopefully these are helpful

Dear Triumph, It would be easy for God to appear to all people and make them believe. But they would have been compelled to do so, since they wouldn't have another option. God doesn't want to force people to accept/live with/live by Him. He wants people to choose Him in their own free will. Just think, would you like your husband/wife to get married to you and live with you because he/she was forced to do so because couldn't do otherwise? Or because he/she loves you and want to do so?

Luke 2:33-35

'And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him.

And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;

(Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) THAT THE THOUGHTS OF MANY HEARTS MAY BE REVEALED."

But don't worry. At the end the true sheep will follow the true Shepherd.

In Genesis in the begining it was Father God who was talking to the other two persons of the Trinity/Godhead, that is the Son and the Holly Spirit.

GBU

I've understood it to be similar to Simon called Peter: Matthew 4:18, Matthew 10:2, different than Acts 8:9, & Luke, Acts 10:18, Acts 13:1, Acts 13:9, Acts 14:2, notice in Acts, the same book, there are multiple names referenced even a wind, Acts 27:14, Acts 27:8, Hebrews 11:18,

Matthew 1:6 Jesus called Christ, John 4:25, Luke 6:15, John 1:42, John 11:16, not Colossians 4:11,

Romans 2:17, Romans 7:3, same supposed writer as Acts , also Romans 9:26

Matthew 26:14, Luke 23:33, John 19:13, John 19:17, Acts 6:9, Revelation 11:8,

Revelation 12:9,

Luke 2:4, Luke 8:2, John 21:2, different than Acts 9:11,

Acts 1:23, Acts 9:36,

Colossians 3:15, 1John 3:1,

Hopefully these are all helpful in your study

Dear David

We know really nothing apart from that incident when the 12 year old child Jesus got lost in the crowds and was found out by His parents in the Temple of Solomon. Also we know that He used to work as a carpenter like His father Joseph did. GBU.

What is known about Jesus's life as a child?

Advocate - 1 John 2:1

Alive for Evermore - Rev 1:18

All Knowing Psalm 139:1-6

All, and in All - Colossians 3:11

Almighty - Revelation 1:8

Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:8

Altar - Hebrews 13:10

Altogether Lovely - Song of Solomon 5:16

Amen - Revelation 3:14

Ancient of Days - Daniel 7:13 & Daniel 7:22

Anointed One - 1 Samuel 2:35

Author of Eternal Salvation - Hebrews 5:9

Author of our Faith - Hebrews 12:2

Balm of Gilead - Jeremiah 8:22

Banner over us - Ps 60:4, S of Sol 2:4

Bearer of Sin - Hebrews 9:28

Before All Things - Colossians 1:17

Beginning and Ending - Revelation 1:8

Bishop of our Souls - 1 Peter 2:25

Blessed and Only Potentate - 1 Timothy 6:15

Blessed Hope - Titus 2:13

Bread of Life, my manna - John 6:35

Bridegroom - John 3:29

Bright and Morning Star - Revelation 22:16

Brightness of His Glory - Hebrews 1:3

Buckler - Psalms 18:30

Captain - Joshua 5:14-15, Hebrews 2:10

Changeless One - Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8

Chief Among 10,000, S. of Solomon 5:10

Chosen of God - 1 Peter 2:4

Christ - Matthew 1:16 - 1 John 5:1

Comforter - John 14:16-18

Consolation of Israel - Luke 2:25

Counselor - Isaiah 9:6

Creator - Romans 1:25 - Isaiah 40:28

Crown of Glory - Isaiah 28:5

I tried to respond and lost the verses. Anyway; look at Ephesians 6:17; Romans 13:4; and the earlier warnings to Pergamum for a similar response of God if repentance doesn't occur. There are other verses such as in Isaiah which prophetically speak of the sword of the Lord as it were. Basically; there is the effect on us; as the Spirit of God should pierce our hearts as Luke 2:35 states; and it is also our offensive weapon against the fiery darts of the enemy ( 1 Peter 4:12). These should be a sobering reminder; as the scripture states if we are scarcely saved; what about the ungodly (also in 1 Peter 4). There are some; as in the Corinthian church who have "fallen asleep" and who are "given over to Satan for the destruction of the body so that the soul can be saved." ( 1 Cor. 5:5).

The Lord chastises all He loves; and they will ultimately produce fruit if they are truly saved. He is patient; but will do whatever is necessary for His plans and work in our lives to be accomplished. Truly; we are Christ's great reward for His sufferings (see Isaiah 53:11). He is given ALL authority over heaven and earth; which would be expected being a member of the Godhead. But God chose to bring Him here and to become a man suffering in all ways as we do without sin. This was God's plan and surely we all must die to ourself as the Spirit enables. Psalm 2 indicates how the world will try to break the bonds as it were of the rulership of Christ; but God has the last laugh. Surely the world will have the stone fall on them rather than falling on it.

May we allow the pruning necessary to produce fruit. Praise God that although we were enemies of God He has reconciled us. ( Colossians 1:21). Remember that those who have taken the mark have been predestined to be reprobate as they were not written in the book of the Lamb ( Rev. 13:8).

Agape.

I believe you're looking for Revelation 12, I gave additional Scripture in your question on same subject.

I wanted to add: Jude 1, entire chapter & compare Revelation 12 to Luke 2:1-7, Matthew 2:7-23, John 19:30, 1Corinthians 15:20, John 21:14, Luke 22:69, Mark 16:19, Acts 5:31,

Hopefully these are helpful also

Hello Steven. You can read the account that led to Joseph taking his family to Egypt, in Matthew 2:1-16.

where did they flee when they fled Bethlehem

Dear Carol Ann

Jesus never sinned, so I do not think He was being disrespectful to His mother. He was most likely speaking to her in a way that was common in those times and it did not ring as rude then.

Dear "Carol Ann Pallonetti", He was preoccupied with quite a lot other than worldly things when He was about to give up the Spirit. With Him was all wisdom from birth. He may not have recognized her at all. When He also meant that why do you grieve? You should know better!

I also think He is rude. But He probably also knew that after His death there will be doctrines and teachings that honor the Lord's mother. He might want to point out that Honor Me all of you, do not begin and honor my mother. Unfortunately, she probably only had one task. His thoughts are not like our thoughts. When He in the flesh could say so, and yet not mean it in a Spiritual way. I also think the Lord showed His carnal side in the question to His mother. Maybe she's pushing Him? God knows!

Have you ever woken up from anesthesia? And experienced pain hell. Then you are not properly sensed with yourself an ordinary human being either. Rather, think of what He went through here on earth. He even had to say to His disciples: How long shall I endure with you? Be happy that in His wounds we have been healed:

Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

Ephesians 3.

Stay blessed in His Holy name Jesus, love u in Christ.

Carol Ann,

In current culture the term "woman" can/is, at times, be used in a derogatory manner.

In the time of Mary a "woman" was simply a woman.

Most importantly, Jesus also called to Mary as "woman," on the cross.

"Woman, behold, thy son!"

As pure as saying father or mother, with respect.

Hope this helps! God bless!

Ty

There was a statement that was made by Jesus to his Mother when she finds him in the Temple and states your Father and I were filled with worries. Jesus says to his Mother in Reply " Women do you not see that I am in the Hiuse of my Father!! Was this not be Disrespectful to his Mother???

Luke 2:36-38 does give us one example of a woman at the Temple (Anna) who devoted her life after her husband died to prayer. We could look at Hannah also; at least spending time there imploring God's favor. Just food for thought...

Daniel -- 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:--(read this chapter) (Read and pray a lot.)

John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Luke 2:40-52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man. ---- If Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and favor with God and and man. Then we will need to grow and learn from our failures how to be overcomers.

Thank you for those references & thoughts Jeanie. I understand the requirement in the Exodus account & when I read the Luke account ( Luke 2:25-35), I seem to see a different picture. I realize that you see Simeon as a priest of the Temple, presenting to God the child Jesus. Why I balk at this is because we're first told that Simeon was a devout man in Jerusalem. Then, by the Spirit, he was led to the Temple to see this Promised One. And here is the difficulty: Joseph & Mary brought the Child to the Temple, to follow the custom of the Law (i.e. consecration). But was Simeon the priest or was there another priest, already serving at the Temple to carry out this duty? When we read the rest of Simeon's action & words, it appears to me that they weren't one of consecration, but of praise to God for allowing him this blessing of seeing the Child. And when Jesus' parents marvelled at Simeon's prophecy, Simeon blessed them (i.e. the parents) & continued with a prophecy.

I just share the above so that you can see why I have doubts about Simeon's priestly position. He could well have been (as you say), but in my reading, the narrative causes me to doubt that & I just see him as a godly man looking for the Messiah, hoping to have a glimpse of him before he passes on.

Luke 2:25-35 however it didn't say he was a priest

Luke 1, Jesus relatives were Priests, Luke 1:5 both Elizabeth & Zacharias, note Luke 1:16-17, Luke 1:36-37, Luke 1:76,

Luke 2:25-35. Though we're not told whether he was a priest in the temple - probably not.

Hello, Laura

You will find the account of Simeon in Luke 2:25-35

Here are scripture links about Jesus CHRIST ministry, the Bible however indicates HIS open ministry longer than a year on earth.

Luke 3:23, people take that scripture & add holidays & other events to draw a timeline.

It doesn't actually say that Jesus CHRIST ministry is/was limited to just those years of HIS open ministry because it's everlasting. Luke 1, John 1:1-5, Luke 2:42-50, John 8:58, 1Corinthians 15:47-58, Ephesians 3:9-11, Titus 3:7, John 3:15, Hebrews 5:9, Jude 1:21, Romans 6:23, Romans 5:21, John 17:3, 2Timothy 2:10, 2Corinthians 5:1, 1John 5:11, John 10:28, 1John 5:20,

Hopefully these are helpful

Psalms 9:10, Psalms 18:2,30, Psalms 56:3, Psalms 71:5, Isaiah 12:2, our trust & hope should ultimately be in GOD

* Psalms 118:8, * Jeremiah 9:4, * Micah 7:5,6, Luke 12:52, Psalms 27:10, Ephesian 6:2,3, Proverbs 23:22, people even most dear can betray, abandon, abuse etc. There was much abuse, betrayal, within King David's family & those he served. 1Samuel 21, 2Samuel 15, Saul his King, his children, wife, etc. Starting with his calling, 1Samuel 16:5-11,

Psalms 20:7,

Psalms 62:2,5,8, 2Samuel 22:3,31,

Job 4:17-21,

Psalms 17:7, Psalms 25:2, Psalms 31:19,

Psalms 40:4, Psalms 44:6, Psalms 49:6,7,

Luke 14:26, trust GOD 1st & only yet honor them, this may be when there is contradiction to GOD's will & commandments. Even Jesus faced those struggles with earthly parents & family. Mark 3:20,21, Mark 3:31-35, John 7:3-5, Luke 2:42-52,

Hopefully these are helpful.

Iove working with bible and i love all too may this great God bless you all amen

Son's of GOD = 1 John 4:15, Galatians 4:7, 1 John 5:10, Ezra 3:2, Hebrews 12:7, Revelation 21:7, 1 Timothy 1:2, 1 Corinthians 6:2-3,

Jesus CHRIST the MESSIAH referred to the most as Son of GOD. Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, Hebrews, etc.

Luke 3:38,

* Romans 8:14, * Hebrews 1:13-14,

I understand "Son's of GOD presented themselves before GOD" to mean= they prayed notice Job 1:5, "offered burnt offerings" then vrs. 6._._._ the accuser came, Revelation 12:10,

Genesis 4:26, Luke 3:38,

Exodus 34:2, Leviticus 14:11, Leviticus 16:28, 1 Samuel 10:19, Daniel 9:18, Luke 2:22, Romans 12:1, Jude 1:24-25,

I appreciated your very thoughtful & insightful comments of our Lord's early years, GiGi. I've often considered that part of His Life that has sadly been withheld from us, for good reason no doubt.

It's almost impossible to imagine a young boy growing up with others of his age around him & not be influenced & tempted to imitate their fleshly ways or satisfy Himself with carnal offerings. His obedience to his parents & wisdom of words & counsel, would no doubt have intrigued many folk & ministered to both young & old.

Yes, this verse tells us that Jesus grew up just like all of us, but was never sinful. He please the Father by always doing His will even as a child and teenager! He pleased men because He never wronged anyone by word or deed. I am pretty sure that He was eager to help and serve others through His growing up years and, in a culture that valued godly living, godly people could only speak well of Him. Wicked, rebellious people probably were uncomfortable around Him as His goodness and righteousness would be convicting for them. But perhaps His example turned some of these sinners back to God. We don't know much about His life between birth and age 30, so what we think or say is only reasoned speculation. But it is good to imagine how pure and holy Jesus was even as a child, youth, and young adult. I think it is easy for us to think that he was like other children with the foibles of bring young and not of the age of reason, but He was never disobedient His parents, or sassy, or crude, or mean to other children. He may have had a good sense of humor, but would not have used it to ridicule or embarrass others. He wasn't lazy, indolent, prideful, lustful, deceptive, or any other typical sinful propensity. Imagine growing up knowing someone like Him! Either you were drawn to Him or shrunk back away from Him depending on the condition of your heart before God.

Two I can think of : Luke 2:22-38, hopefully this is helpful

Hello John,

I myself have had many beautiful discussions with Mormons & Jehovah Witnesses. I'm sorry if I mix up the teachings. 1st I want to say many of both, are very kind, I liked just about everyone I encountered. With few exceptions. However, many scriptural discussions seemed to point to teaching that was not in-line with JKV HOLY Bible.

1st important 1= Galatians 1:3-10, 2 Corinthians 11:3-4, teach don't believe another gospel even if an Angel brings, Mormons have a "new" teaching brought from "An Angel".

2nd Book of Mormon, addition to Bible? Psalms 89:34, Rev. 22:18, Deuteronomy 12:32,

3rd Mormons teach that Women can't be prophets untrue : Judges 4:4, Luke 2:36, Joel 2:28.

4th & maybe most important Mormons don't believe CHRIST Jesus is who HE says HE is. : Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, John 19, John 1,

Why do you ask?

Baptist are supposed to believe in Scripture.

I myself like to stick to the WORD of GOD. Those two are not your only choices. The choices really come down to the WORD itself here's some : John 3:15-16, Matthew 25:31-46, James 1:26-27, John 14:16,

Hopefully this is helpful.

Hi Chris

The bible says first the physical and then the spiritual. You are saying first the spiritual and then the physical. I'm sorry but you have it backwards. Jesus is first mentioned in Genesis 3:15. He was in Gods mind right from the beginning. In the exodus it is said the rock 1 Corinthians 10:4 that followed them. It says spiritual rock which means the rock symbolized Christ. Jesus Christ was in Gods mind right from the beginning. He was not an actual being until his birth about two thousand years ago.

It says Jesus was conceived in the womb. Luke 2:21. Conception is when two seeds are joined together. Jesus started life as a baby and grew from there.

At Jesus resurrection what did Jesus say to Mary?

John 20:17 I ascent to my Father and your Father and to my God and to your God.

Thanks

Jesus is creater god

1 Timothy 3:16 KJV - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Jesus is the son of God

Rom 1:3-4 Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; 4 And declared [to be] the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:

Jesus I savior of the world

Luke 2:11

"For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord."

the bible is about Jesus what he has done, the world he created and what will he be doing in the future.

Jesus is the judge of the heart and he is going to kill and punish every single person with everlasting punishment who has not belive him and put their trust in him. no expectations