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  • S Spencer - In Reply on Mark 2 - 4 years ago
    Popeye.

    How about copying and paste it, then send it to your friend.

    God bless.
  • Popeye - In Reply on Mark 2 - 4 years ago
    Thank you.I hope I can explain it to my coworker the way you explained it to me. I also will pray for you. May the Lord keep you safe in these trying to times.
  • Popeye - In Reply on Mark 2 - 4 years ago
    Thank you.
  • Popeye - In Reply on Mark 2 - 4 years ago
    Thank you. I will try to pass it along. I also will pray for you.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply on Mark 2 - 4 years ago
    Popeye asks: "infirmity" questions - Please help me that I may pass it along.

    Popeye, Precious friend, I will pray for you - hope this helps:

    God's GRACE In our infirmities

    (1) Read Romans 5:1-5, especially take note of verse 3, "we glory [rejoice] in tribulations." We are not instructed here to glory in spite of the trials of life we find ourselves in, but we are to rejoice because of them. That is to say we are to thank God for allowing times of suffering into our life. This passage of Scripture expressly states that The Lord uses the tribulations of life "to conform us to The Image Of His Son" ( Romans 8:29). To this end, He uses all things "to work together for good to them that love God, to them that are the called According To His Purpose" ( Romans 8:28). As we grow mature in The Lord, our Savior is Glorified. As believers in Jesus Christ it is given us "in behalf of Christ, not only to believe on Him, but also to suffer for His Sake" ( Philippians 1:29). (Borrowed from brother Ed Bedore) My study:

    (2) After Paul [our #"pattern"# for Today!] prayed 3 times for his affliction, the "Answer he Received," According To The Scriptures, Was:

    "And HE [CHRIST] Said Unto me, MY GRACE Is Sufficient For thee: For MY Strength Is Made Perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory [cp] in my infirmities, that The Power Of CHRIST May Rest Upon me!" ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) cp ( 2 Corinthians 11:23-30)

    (3) Compare With GRACE Scriptures: ( Romans 5:1-5) ( Romans 8:18) ( Romans 8:26-29) ( 1 Corinthians 10:13) ( 2 Corinthians 1:3-4) ( 2 Corinthians 4:17) ( 2 Corinthians 12:9) ( Philippians 3:21)

    #"pattern"# = Paul = ( 1 Timothy 1:16) ( Philippians 4:9)

    Please be Very Encouraged In The LORD JESUS CHRIST And His Word Of Truth!
  • Fred - In Reply on Mark 2 - 4 years ago
    I like to believe that I am faithful to Jesus and have been most of my life! There have been times when things were not easy, but we never went without. God blessed me with a mind, and a will too work and make a good living. He has fulfilled his promises. As a matter of fact, my life at one time was as Job. Now, I can say like him that god has doubled and in some cases tripled my health, property, and children. All these things I lost a one time. The bible is true, only if you believe it and what it says, and not what someone else says! Such as Jobs friends could be like ours, who say curse God.
  • I John 2:17 - In Reply on Mark 2 - 4 years ago
    >"Why are "faithful individuals constantly scrambling to make ends meet and individuals with not so reputable lives prosper?"

    Psalms 73
  • Popeye on Mark 2 - 4 years ago
    Hi, my questions come from a fellow worker. He asked: Why do children suffer with sicknesses, i.e., Cancer, or any body organ problems? They are innocent. (I understand about the original sin, and I said that to him. He retorted, but why kids?) The other question was geared towards: Why are "faithful individuals constantly scrambling to make ends meet and individuals with not so reputable lives prosper? He said to me that he knew I would ponder the questions as I did for him before. I said to him that these are very difficult questions. (I have known these same questions in the past, and have not gotten an adequate answer that I could give to him.) I just trusted in the Lord, and that all questions may not have answers that I would understand. Please help me that I may pass it along to him. Thank you
  • Steven - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Amen Arnita.

    Christ Came for the Sinner to die on the Cross.

    Mark 2:17 (KJV) When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

    God bless.
  • Car - In Reply on Psalms 24 - 4 years ago
    Mark 2:27And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

    Jeremiah 17:24And it shall come to pass, if ye diligently hearken unto me, saith the LORD, to bring in no burden through the gates of this city on the sabbath day, but hallow the sabbath day, to do no work therein;

    Jeremiah 17:22 Neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the sabbath day, neither do ye any work, but hallow ye the sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers.

    Exodus 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.

    It's nothing to GOD if you have perfect attendance or not because there's really nothing we can give HIM that HE doesn't have. But at Church we're still instructed to never be absent (we have 3 days of Church services; some have perfect attendance since they were saved, some come and go). So now we go to Church for our own good to receive blessings from HIM: material, physical, and Spiriutal blessings.

    We just have to be thankful to GOD that there's this one place for us where we can go to serve The LORD GOD by:

    1) singing praising songs to HIM

    2) praying to HIM

    3) hearing HIS messages through preaching

    4) testifying for HIM

    5) joining others in setting up The Church and serving HIS followers

    If you get that feeling of not going to Church, whether it's a building or a humble place, then maybe it's time to search yourself first. Pray, fast, sing praising songs to GOD, ask for forgiveness for your shortcomings, and cry for mercy, love, and forgiveness, ask for His sweet Holy Presence. And let HIM lead you wherever HE wants you to be. HALLELUJAH! PRAISE THE LORD!
  • Scroll - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Mark 2:17

    When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

    I believe the verse above to be true but how do I tell this to a father or mother with an afflicted child to aid them without getting them angry? The truth is revealing and hard but it is the first step to being healed. One problem is people immediately look outside instead of inside.

    I know anyone can be healed but they must first realize they are the problem or the problem is within and repent before the healing can happen.

    feel free to comment.
  • Zelma - In Reply on 2 Timothy 2 - 4 years ago
    2 Timothy 2

    Hello Helen,

    Just a few scriptures that say about the bride/bridegroom.

    Matthew 25:1-46 - Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

    Ephesians 5:27 - That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

    Mark 2:19-20 - And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast.

    Revelation 19:7-9 - Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. (Read More...)

    Revelation 21:2 - And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

    Isaiah 54:5 - For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

    Zelma Shalom
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hello Lex. Those are good questions that we all probably have to deal with at some time in our Christian walk. You asked a couple of questions: I'll look at the second one, first.

    "Sin that doesn't bother you as before". Usually, the reason for this dilemma, is because we have been entertaining that sin in our lives for too long, making it acceptable & justifiable in our minds. And when that one sin becomes acceptable, usually there are other sins that are lining up for your approval. Sin has to be seen for what it is. To the person without Christ, he has a list of commandments in the Bible, even his own conscience, that will alert him to what is sin & what displeases God. To those in Christ, the Holy Spirit within immediately checks our spirit & thoughts when sin is at the door or has even been allowed inside.

    Suggestions? Go back into the Word, read & digest what God sees as sin & bring up that sin(s) before Him. Is there anything other than that specific sin that is holding back the Spirit of God from speaking to you? Even things such as wilfulness, obstinacy, anger, pride can be easily overlooked, that prevents the Spirit from breaking through to speak to your heart.

    "Experiencing godly sorrow". Godly sorrow is a wonderful thing. The counterpart is a heart full of praise. In both experiences, the heart is deeply affected: one, where there is a wrenching of spirit, being overcome by the depth & volume of sin, & the other, a heart full of uncontainable joy as we get lost in the wonder of the greatness & graciousness of our God.

    When a heart is filled with godly sorrow (as for sin), all it can do is cry out in anguish & for mercy. Take hold of God's Word & its Promises. I think of Mark 2:17: "(Jesus) saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." It is Jesus' Call to all sinners (those sick in soul): that there is full healing when there is repentance.
  • New Testament Sabbath Practices by Mishael - In Reply on Mark 2:28 - 4 years ago
    I think we as a whole, do not fully understand what the Sabbath Day is for; according to ONLY New Testament revision, implemented by the Lord Jesus Christ. He was Lord of the Old Testament (Covenant), and Jesus taught revisions in the years of his ministry on earth.

    The Pharisees only perceived Jesus was going to upset their whole way of operation. They would rather have Jesus dead, than change anything about Sabbath, tithes and offerings, helping out the poor.

    I will be hated too for it too. Jesus went in and overturned money changer tables, let loose the doves, scattered sheep. WHY? Outside the Temple it was like a New York stock exchange. Clearly Jesus does not want that in His Church.

    COLOSSIANS 1:18; 2:8-23, Details what Jesus wants from His New Testament Church.

    If we have great need of blessing and help, we give our best and Jesus will bless accordingly. The Churches operate on Tithes, alone. They were not meant to consume the offerings on their church beautification projects. All that is destined to be burned to ashes.

    I might ask: if everyone in your household was in bed on the edge of death, would you leave and attend Sabbath, because you were afraid of Not going?

    I perceive Jesus as being Very Practical, and Merciful to the problems of mankind. If our household is struck down in bed with COVID, we should be able to summon the Pastors or Elders to come and pray for the sick.

    Sabbath is not constrained to a particular day of the week. The Service Times are posted, and people attend on those days. Jesus wants them to be able to get to a service so they can be taught, take communion, give tithes and offerings, receive prayer for healing.

    That's why people are sitting home on Weekends. Our society sucks the life out of us with work, low pay, grid-locked traffic twice a day, kid problems, elderly parents that need visits.

    Church must be more flexible. It serves people. Not vice versa. Study Jesus's examples in NT
  • Adam - In Reply on Mark 2:28 - 4 years ago
    Not sure why you want to reply to someone on a given topic then say you want to discuss another topic. Who are you?
  • Offerings and Tithes - In Reply on Mark 2:28 - 4 years ago
    I'm weary of the sabbath issue.

    Let's discuss the differences between tithing and offerings.

    Jubilee. Is it only for Jewish people?

    Am I bad? I think we tithe cause God ordained it. I give offerings because all people need food.
  • Adam - In Reply on Mark 2:28 - 4 years ago
    Hello, I don't know any Christians who think the Sabbath is Sunday. Sabbath is Saturday. I think people often conflate a day of worship with a day of rest. These were never the same day; if you think they were the same day can you share evidence of that?

    I believe Christians most often worship on Sunday, because that's the example given for what the early Christians did: Acts 20:7
  • Constance Kueber on Mark 2:28 - 4 years ago
    I believe that Jesus did not change the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday. It is not stated in the Bible.
  • Rod - In Reply on Exodus 15 - 4 years ago
    Hi Bridget,

    When you read the whole chapter of Malachi 3, nowhere is the word Sabbath mentioned, it's talking about Jesus return and the fight of good against evil and the Lord's words doesn't change Malachi 3:2 "But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:"

    just some scripture to support that whether we practice our common faith on a Saturday or Sunday it really doesn't matter, but what does matter is that we repent and believe in the salvation of the cross and that Jesus died for all who believe.

    Mark 2:24-28 "And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:"

    Colossians 2:13-19

    13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

    14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

    15 having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

    16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

    17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

    18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

    19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
  • When is Sabbath - In Reply on Exodus 15 - 4 years ago
    When religious leaders accused JESUS of breaking the Sabbath because his disciples plucked some grain and ate it as they walked through a field, he said: "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of Man is also Lord of the Sabbath" ( Mark 2:27-28)

    Constantine (Roman) set Sabbath on Sunday.

    Jewish tradition, Sabbath begins at sundown on Friday, and is attended on Saturday.

    My advise: Google this and read all the opinions. My choice is what Jesus said above.
  • Adam - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 1 - 5 years ago
    Dear George,

    I don't believe most Christians think they are observing Sabbath on Sunday. I think very few minority would think Sunday is the Sabbath. A day of worship is not the same as the Sabbath day.

    Christians likely meet on Sunday, because:

    (1) The example is they met on first day of the week

    (2) Christians can worship any day, and many choose Sunday.

    Maybe your question is why do most Christians not celebrate the Sabbath on Saturday:

    (1) Colossians 2:16, 17

    (2) Jesus healed others on the Sabbath

    (3) Jesus challenged the Pharisees in how they observed the Sabbath and redefined it for them: Mark 3:4, Mark 2:27

    (4) Matthew 5:17-18 (fulfilled but not abolished). Many will say the 10 commandments still apply, like it's still just as wrong to kill someone, but a % may say the 4th commandment (keep Sabbath) may not still apply.

    That is to help answer your first question, but I didn't understand your second one.
  • Jesse - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    Part 2:

    According to law, the priest was the only one who was able to eat it, because after he changed the bread off with fresh bread, he would eat the old bread himself. So the priest took it and said here, take the shewbread. You are hungry. You need it. And Jesus is saying you Pharisees don't get it. It is not legalism.

    Mark 2:27: And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

    He says look, God gave you the Sabbath Day as a gift. Did you ever notice that they, and we, still don't take that gift? We refuse to take a day off to get away from involvement with the world and just rest and focus on the things the Lord.

    So Jesus said look, even in your own rules, because they had rules, but if the Pharisees were walking down the road and their horse fell into a ditch, they could pull it out.

    You say well how can they do that? Because they made the rule that they could. They made the rules! So Jesus said you are in the wrong spirit here.

    The Sabbath was given to man as a gift. Man wasn't made so that he would fulfill the Sabbath. The Sabbath was given to man. Obviously, if there's an emergency, what are you going to do? You can't call an ambulance today, you will have to wait till tomorrow because, you know, it is the Sabbath Day.

    Lastly, Mark 2:28 says Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

    Wow, what a statement! He's in charge of the Sabbath, and what He does is right.

    I hope this helps you!
  • Jesse - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    Alec Ford,

    Those verses tell us about the Confrontation over the Sabbath. I'll give you my understanding of those verses in two parts as there is not enough space in one post. This will be part 1.

    First of all, in Mark 2:23, if your text says corn, they didn't have corn there in those days. It was grain fields on the Sabbath day; and his disciples began, as they went, to pluck the ears of grain. And by the way, you are allowed to do that. The law allows you to do that. In Mark 2:24, you have to understand that the Pharisees were there to evaluate. They said you are reaping the harvest.

    No! The law allowed that if you are walking along, you can pull heads of grain off and eat it if you are hungry, but you can't harvest it on the Sabbath, because you're not allowed to work on the Sabbath.

    So the Pharisees said, "We consider that harvesting!" In fact, there were incidents where people would walk along the ground and step on a stock and some of the grain would fall off the stock and they got them for harvesting. Legalists!

    In Mark 2:25, Jesus said to them, "Have you never read?" He is speaking to religious people. And He is saying "haven't you ever read the Old Testament, the TANAK?" Have you never read what David did? This would be 1 Samuel 21:1-6. Have you never read what David did, when he had need and was hungry, and he, and those that were traveling with him?

    In Mark 2:26, the phrase "into the house of God" used in this verse means into the tabernacle.

    So you see, He says David and his band of men were traveling, and they were hungry. And they come across the temple and they said to the priest do you have any food here? Well, the only food I have is the shewbread, the presentation bread, the 12 loaves of bread that represent the 12 tribes of Israel.
  • OnlytruthintheworldKJV - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    Greetings in Jesus' name, Alec.

    In this passage of scripture we can see that the pharisees were trying to trip Jesus up & condemn Him, as they always tried to, unsuccessfully. The sabbath was a convocation (an act or rehearsal) pointing to the 7th day 1000 year reign of Jesus Christ after His second coming. This is the rest spoken of in Hebrews that remaineth to enter into. Christian's don't enter into a day of the week, though there's certainly nothing wrong with observing the sabbath and the Lord's day.

    Concerning the pharisees:

    13 But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.

    - Isaiah 28:13

    This is why Jesus said in :

    Matthew 23:23 KJV

    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

    John 1:17

    For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.

    I hope this helps you.

    Be well,

    Andrew
  • Alec Ford on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    Can anyone explain Mark 2 vs 23 -28 I have read this many times and still don't understand what it means. I know it has to have a meaning or else it wouldn't be in the bible
  • Steven Spencer on Mark 2:28 - 5 years ago
    Alex this is comforted drawn from 2 Samuel 12:24. different word and different meaning from comforter in John. Hebrew:

    Transliteration: ncham

    Pronunciation: naw-kham'

    Definition: A primitive root; properly to {sigh} that {is} breathe strongly; by implication to be {sorry} that {is} (in a favorable sense) to {pity} console or (reflexively) rue; or (unfavorably) to avenge (oneself): - comfort ({self}) ease [one s {self]} repent ({-er} {-ing} self).

    KJV Usage: comfort(57x), repent(41x), comforter(9x), ease(1x).

    Occurs: 108

    In verses: 100.
  • Chris - In Reply on Mark 2:28 - 5 years ago
    I don't believe that saying the "Son of" someone implies an authority over others. It's simply an identification with his father. In eastern cultures, it is very important that a family's bloodline or genealogy is known, so that the person being addressed is fully known by his background. In India, often the surname is placed before the given name as that is what is more important: to know the family & after knowing that, to know who you are.

    With Jesus, He generally referred Himself as the Son of Man & yet we know that He was also the Son of God. The Son of God title was to acknowledge His Deity (i.e. His indivisible relationship with His Father) & the Son of Man title, associated with His Humanity, coming into the World in a human body.

    Matthew 26:63-65: "And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses?" Here we see an example of where Caiaphas the High Priest asked about Jesus's Sonship & Jesus affirmed that He was the Son of God but that he (the priest), & all others, would see the "Son of Man" seated in Heaven & returning one day to Earth. And to this Caiaphas accused Jesus of blasphemy as Jesus claimed to be God. So this Son of God by Divine right to the Father was also the Son of Man on Earth & is so presently in Heaven, i.e. God in the Flesh seated at the right Hand of God.
  • KathyM on Mark 2:28 - 5 years ago
    It seems strange to me that Jesus would refer to himself as "the Son of Man," since the first man created by God was Adam. I read that in those times, "Son of" meant that person had authority over others. Why not "Father of" instead. Or Son of God. I know that Jesus didn't always like to admit who He was, but I don't get it. Please explain, if possible. Thanks.
  • Rod - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    I believe that Jesus answered this very well with the parable of the good Samaritan, Luke 10 verses 25 to 37

    also James chapter 2 and Matthew chapter 5,6,7, Beatitudes and sermon on the mount,

    Luke 10:25

    "And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?"

    Luke 10:37

    "And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise."

    James 2:26

    "For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also."


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