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  • Edward - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    Thanks for your responses,

    My Pastor said that not only the fallen angels procreated with the daughters of Adam, but that the result of the act between Satan and Eve was Cain. This seems to make sense to me because God then separates the seed of Satan from the seed of Eve and pronounces issues with birth for Eve and all women after that. Why else would God talk about these things. And when God went to talk to Adam and Eve after they sinned, they wrapped fig leaves around their loins, not their mouth if they ate an apple. It seems to all fit.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    They all died in the flood (drowned): The fallen angels that followed Satan.

    They had no bodies any longer. That's when they became invisible. Ephesians 6.

    They could get into unprotected, unrighteous humans; but they cannot procreate anymore.

    Evil human beings can let their bodies be possessed by demons: as in witches.

    Born again people can be Oppressed, but NOT possessed. The need prayer of agreement to be relieved.
  • Adam - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    Hi Mishael, just noticed your reply about Genesis 6 giants/Nephilim. If you don't think they're from angels and humans, then what do you think that verse means?
  • Mishael - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    No....and no. Humans in heaven will be like the angels. There will be no marriage, dating or anything like that.

    If you opt to stay on earth....it's going to be burned with fire (as in cleansed).
  • Bonnie Myers on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    Our Christian walk is step by step - day by day.

    There are many good comments by some folks here, so I won't say too much as it would probably be redundant.

    I would like to suggest reading Psalm 73 with regards to our worldly enemies who we perceive as getting away with their sins.

    "Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end." Psalms 73:17

    Their end is eternal damnation.
  • Edward on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    Can angles and humans have children?

    Are these children the giants of Genesis 6:2-4?
  • Stanjett - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    Sabboth is Saturday.
  • Andy G van den Berg on Luke 12:10 - 5 years ago
    To FRED SCANLAN

    Please remember that the sons of God have come for the pulling down of this world's 'Strongholds', religion being the strongest of them all ( 2 Cor. 10:4; Luke 11:21-23).

    When it comes to the Medical Profession, please know that the believers live by faith, as the true and living God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob is their guide in all things. Remember how God took care of a host of 2m people for forty years. He fed them and provided them with water and other essentials. Even their shoes and garments didn't wear out. Also remember that out of the original group that crossed the Red Sea only Joshua & Caleb crossed the Jordan River. All the rest died in the wilderness, while only the new generation crossed the Jordan.

    Rather than speaking from personal experience, we believe that the most effective way to be taught and to come to the understanding of 'The Chastening of the Lord' is by the Word of God itself

    CHASTENING

    Deut. 8:5

    Job 5:17-19; 6:1-10; 23:10; 33:19

    Psalms 6:1-10; 17:3; 30:1-12; 38:1-21; 94:12-14; 102:1-28; 116:1-19; 119:7,67,71

    Proverbs 3:11

    Isaiah 26:16

    1 Cor. 11:32

    Hebrews 12:5,6

    James 1:12

    1 Peter 1:7

    Rev. 3:15-21

    AFFLICTIONS

    Psalms 34:19; 132:1

    Isaiah 48:10

    Acts 7:10; 20:23

    2 Cor. 6:4

    Col. 1:24

    1 Thess 3:3

    Hebrews 12:5-12

    Rev. 3:18

    SICKNESS AND HEALING

    Exodus 15:26

    Psalm 6:2

    Isaiah 30:26

    Jer. 30:17

    Eze. 34:16

    Hosea 6:1

    Mal. 4:2

    Matthew 10:8

    Mark 2:17

    Luke 5:31

    James 5:15

    1 Peter 2:24

    Rev. 22:2

    RELYING ON DOCTORS AND MEDICINE



    2 Chr. 16:12,13

    Job 13:4

    Psalms 34:19; 108:12

    Isaiah 30:1-3

    Jer. 17:5-7,14

    Hosea 5:13

    Mark 5:25-29

    Luke 8:43

    MADE PERFECT THROUGH SUFFERING

    Job 5:18; 23:10

    Psalms 50:5; 119:67,71

    Isaiah 48:10

    Jer. 31:18

    Hosea 5:15; 6:1

    Romans 8:17

    2 Cor. 4:17

    Hebrews 2:10; 5:7-9; 12:10,11

    1 Peter 4:1,12; 5:1,9,10

    Rev. 3:19

    Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
  • Andy G van den Berg on Luke 12:10 - 5 years ago
    On 'BORN OF GOD' - 'BORN AGAIN

    Most people on this website claim to be so-called Christians, but in truth are they followers of Jesus Christ or do they follow after an image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; 2 Cor. 11:13-15; Rev. 12:9)?. Most of them also claim to be so-called 'Born Again', which means 'Born of God', but are they, or is it a form of self-transformation ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15), while in truth they are wearing the wrong garment ( Psalm 6:8; Matthew 7:20-23; 9:16; 22:2-14; Mark 2:21; Luke 5:36)?

    For answers to the above questions we invite you to peruse the earlier Comment below.

    Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

    In His Service.

    Andy & Dianne van den Berg - Nova Scotia, Canada
  • D.J. - In Reply on Psalms 72 - 5 years ago
    Sandra,

    Concerning the 7th Day.

    Most people use Sunday because they can't shake customs and traditions.

    You are following the Sabbath day requirement because you feel compelled to.

    The 7th day was established for ALL of mankind back on the 7th Day of Creation ( Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11, Exodus 34:21, etc. etc.) and was never abolished.

    ( Mark 2:27-28) "And he said unto them, The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath."

    If we believe in the Father and His only begotten Son, then we have Christ in us every day, not just one day per week. This new understanding is an enhancement of the 7th day, not the abolishing of it. It was made to last forever.

    This is a day that God BLESSED and SANCTIFIED! Christ always honored the Sabbath. The Apostles kept the Sabbath after the death of Christ; look at Acts 13:14, 27, 42, 44, Acts 16:13, etc.

    Pentecost is a holy SABBATH day; i.e. a day of rest.

    In Acts 17:2 and Acts 18:4, Paul is continually feeding the people Scripture on the SABBATH.

    Christ never abolished the Sabbath.

    God never said anything concerning that fact, and if He wanted that day changed, He would have made it abundantly clear.

    Have you considered looking at the Dead Sea Scrolls?

    The Book of Enoch, in particular, reveals a 364 day solar priestly calendar.

    52 (weeks) x 7 = 364

    The calendar begins after the Spring Equinox.

    Look at the first book of Enoch; specifically, ch. 72, and ch. 82 (column 27) are words concerning the ancient solar calendar.
  • Brother dan - In Reply on Psalms 72 - 5 years ago
    I agree we are not under obligation of the old jewish traditional laws of the old testament like the various sabbath feasts, sacrifices and rituals etc. But it is a gigantic stretch of the imagination to apply this also to cancel the 4th commandment. Only Jesus or God can cancel one of the commandments. The commandments were written in stone, and will stand forever. God did not put the old Jewish ceremonial laws in stone - big difference.

    God's law is the 10 commandments.

    Luke 16:17 But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to become void.

    17 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

    Jesus observed the Saturday sabbath while here on earth. Yes, he performed many things to heal and help others on the Sabbath. In doing so he was teaching all of us that we are to help others on the sabbath. When Jesus was accused of breaking the sabbath he instructed that certain things could be performed on this day. He DID NOT say to his accusers that the sabbath is no longer effective. To the contrary, he acknowledged it!

    Mark 2: 27-28 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath: 28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath. Why would Jesus say that he is Lord of the Sabbath if there is no longer a Sabbath?

    I'm not willing to follow the crowd today - that think there are only 9 commandments.

    Matthew 7:13-14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in there at: 14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

    God Bless.
  • GTMok - In Reply on Psalms 72 - 5 years ago
    Hi Sandra,

    The best possible way to have a better understanding about which day is the right one and why most people go to church on Sunday, is to go back to the book of Daniel. Understand the kingdoms of Babylon, Medo Persia, Greece, Rome and how the activities of the "little horn" that has a mouth and eyes and speaking blasphemy against the Most High.

    What is blasphemy? Mark 2:7 "Why doth this man thus speak blasphemies? who can forgive sins but God only?"

    The little horn according to Daniel 7:25 - "And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time."

    According to Exodus 20, the 4 commandment "Remember to keep the seventh day holy..." Exodus 20:8-11. The commandment has not changed, even Paul solidifies the same in the new testament, "we establish the law" Romans 3:31.

    The little horn has usurped the prerogatives of God and in doing so he established his day, Sunday, as the day of his authority. The last day deception will be about the day of worship. Those who love God, & His law, will choose Saturday Sabbath as the day of His authority, but those who choose the devil's representative here on earth (the anti Christ) will choose Sunday sabbath (as they call it) as the day of his authority. It all boils down to in whom we rest (sabatismos), come what may. Even at the risk of losing our lives we trust the One who is able to resurrect us from death, Matthew 10:39
  • Sonya on Haggai 2 - 5 years ago
    I think the Lord is saying during these times is to work and fear not for he will be with you, as in chapter 2:4-5. The Lord is calling his people to be holy, 2:13-14 Then said Haggai, If one that is unclean by a dead body touch any of these , shall it be unclean? And the priests answered and said, It shall be unclean. (I believe he is speaking of fornications) Then answered Haggai, and said, So is this people, and so is this nation before me, says the Lord; and so is every work of their hands; and that which they offer there is unclean. No matter how much a person goes to church if they do not get their hearts right, that which they offer there will be unclean. In Matthew 15:19 For out of the HEART proceed EVIL thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. ***( Jesus said these are evil thoughts)*** Jesus said in Matthew 15:17-18 Do you not yet understand, that what so ever entered in at the mouth, goes into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? But those things that which proceed out of the mouth come fourth from the HEART: and they defile the man. Matthew 9:3-4 And, behold, certain of the Scribes said within themselves, This man blasphemeth. And Jesus knowing their thoughts said, wherefore think ye EVIL in your HEARTS. Once again in Mark 2:6-8 But there were certain scribes sitting there, and reasoning in their HEARTS. Why does this man speak blasphemies? Who can forgive sins but God only? And immediately when Jesus perceived in his spirit that they so reasoned within themselves, he said to them, Why reason these things in your HEARTS? Mark 3:4-5 And he said to them is it lawful to do good on the Sabbath days or to do EVIL. But they held their peace. And when he looked round about him with ANGER, BEING GRIEVED FOR THE HARDNESS OF THEIR HEARTS, he said to the man stretch fourth your hand. and he stretched it out, and his hand was restored whole as the other. READ PROVERBS 4:23 about the heart, I hope this helps someone.
  • Adam - In Reply on Psalms 72 - 5 years ago
    Dear Dan,

    I'm replying to your comment on the sabbath. While I agree that it would seem strange to follow only 9 of the 10 commandments, Jesus did treat the commandment about the sabbath differently than the others and there is scripture evidence that suggests the sabbath is not equal to the other commandments.

    The reason is Jesus was accused of breaking the sabbath himself! If he were alive today and you saw Jesus heal someone or do some 'work', would you accuse and judge Him of it? That's what the Pharisees did and Jesus rebuked them. So, Jesus made a clear point that it's ok to do good work on the sabbath. Mark 2:27. There are also interesting verses like Colossians 2:16-17 and Romans 14:5. This shows the original reason Israelites needed to observe the Sabbath: Deuteronomy 5:15.

    So, did Jesus fulfill the sabbath or did he not?
  • Part 3 NEW MOVE OF GOD - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    Praise and worship are key in Old Testament wars. Read over in Chronicles about King David. That's how we do it. The Holy Spirit is ready to bestow His gifts, for ministry. You have to pray, ask, And receive. Then study what that gift is for. Again.. read your Bible. Get a Strongs Concordance. It's faster.

    This is living Church outside the walls guys; gals. Our government is going to try to distract us by removing our statues (to demoralize us.) They are going to persecute the church for being resistant to gay agendas, abortion agendas, racial agendas, co-Ed school agendas: they have all these strategies to divide us and keep us in little boxes.

    These days are truly the last days. Our target is to pray to the Lord of the Harvest to send Workers into that Harvest, to COMPEL the unsaved to come to Jesus now. Before it's to late. This door of opportunity will be closed by the Rapture (caught up into the clouds). Don't get hung up on rapture not being a Bible word.

    1 Thessalonians 4:17 Is the correct name to Google. 2 Peter 3:12, BE LOOKING FOR JESUS. Stop arguing about this, ok?

    If you aren't looking up for Jesus, then you my friend are a Sadducee. They didn't believe in the Resurrection so they are "sad you see"... awaiting hell.

    Read the Gospels and memorize how Jesus taught his disciples. Google the stories of people that are evangelizing in beautiful orderly crowds; witnessing to people they meet.

    Be encouraged. You are truly seeing God do something new. If you don't sense that trumpet call in your spirit? Maybe turn off the tv and really start seeking Jesus's direction for you. If your mind feels kinda cloudy when you read the Bible, it may be hindering and harassing demons spirits. Bind them and cast them into outer darkness, in Jesus name. Keep it up till they give up and move on to something easier.

    We win! Jesus is with us. He will protect us with angelic protection. Don't focus on anything other than JESUS.

    Mishael
  • Part Two NEW MOVE OF GOD - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    Everyone read up on Jesus's last week before the Cross. That's where we are.

    The "Religious" scribes, Pharisees, Sadducees, and leftover Zealots were intent on wiping out Jesus's teachings, he Himself, and protecting "their" fine Temple with all its wealth and artifacts, etc. intolerant of anything Jesus said about it being torn down. We're the same spirit. We argue continually about deep doctrinal issues that don't tell others a reason to be born again and follow Jesus.

    We are looking at a massive move into APOSTASY at this very moment. People need to be born again and Delivered from demons that hold them back from understanding how to live born again until Jesus returns! Does anyone in here know how to sniff out demon Fruits and cast them out in Jesus name and send them into outer darkness? Ephesians 6. Demons are invisible; only their fruits give them up.

    Have you ever gone to church and sat in on a Deliverance Service? Where people pray for the oppressed of demons, to be set gloriously free??

    There's MAINTENANCE to be taught on how to keep yourself free from demonic reappearances. If they don't furnish the fleshly body that Houses the spiritual man inside, demons will try to get their old house back. People have to be so full of Bible that no demon will stick a claw back into that place. Maintain! Every time a swear word flies out of your mouth or you watch sensual themes on tv, that's a demon trying to reclaim you! Turn it off and read your Bible.



    If you want to know what Satan's next strategy is against the Body of Christ, turn on the news!!

    Where's the Watchmen? Where's the Gap Standers? The intercessor prayer teams? People with the gift of prophesy from the Holy Spirit who is our captain on earth? Where are those with the gift of a Word of Wisdom? We need all of the Holy Spirits gifts working together right now in the Body of Christ Jesus. We need our Praise and Worship teams in their Places!

    Mishael
  • Part One NEW MOVE OF GOD - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    It helps me to hear you say this. I miss Billy too. I still encourage myself on his sermons on youtube. Friday I saw a story on the news; how the young Christians in Portland were taking evangelism out into the streets. They see that Jesus is the answer for the violence and frustration.

    They're not protesting. They're lifting up Jesus. We have to intercede for them. Jesus is doing something new.

    I would love to see that happening in here too. Pastors need to see the real hunger for living the Church out in the streets.

    They have questions that require useful answers. Not miles upon miles of church history. Not Splitting hairs on which way is the right way, the right Bible, the right spin on doctrine. They are crying out to just know the real Jesus and what he did and taught for 3 years!!

    This is the final push. We're living the last days of Jesus's life on earth.

    Our government=the Pharisees and Sadducees are closing our churches, forbidding us to sing; planning to take away our tax exempt status away. Churches in Europe are being Closed and sold off to become restaurants or play lands.

    I thought it was evil exploding. I cried out, why is this happening?!? And then, maybe it was a light....God is in on this. He's closing our hideaways and refuges of wood and stone. We will see something new every day! Satan is taking it to the streets; and God is urging us to do also but to do it with praise, worship, witnessing His Love right on a public sidewalk. Lifting up Jesus. I do not think we need to go near to what the rioting, burning, vandalizing crowds are doing!!

    I see this move of the Lord beginning in the highways and byways, smaller towns, and moving ever closer to the cities that are taken over by 'zealots' who are using BLM's banner to perpetuate their real agendas. Destruction, Hatred and chaos ARE ALWAYS THE FRUIT OF SATAN.

    We cannot be a part of that!! Lift up Jesus and He will draw people to Himself. This is like Jericho sorta.
  • Fred scanlan - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    The first words to simon and Andrew were to follow me and I will make you fishers of men! Fishermen of men! This is the message that indeed, as you say is not being spoken. Christ is the way . Why are repeating Christs words so difficult? Why is the church not inviting people to be baptised and saved, no more alter calls. Not unlike Pastor Billy Graham! Baptism should be like when John Baptised Jesus in the Jordan river. People should be called like never before! Pastors ,deacons, elders, young and old should be shouting out the name of Jesus! Jesus always said, never be afraid! Preach the gospel, in and out of season, always! The marriage is ready! call everyone from the hi ways and byways. Indeed his kingdom is at hand,Jesus wants all men to be saved. The marriage is ready! The church today is stuck! Stuck with their idea that perhaps there is another way of salvation, a salvation based on works! Perhaps it thinks its vial doesn't need to be full, that it can share its oil with another mans idea, and still be ready when Christ arrives? Based on an idea that there is something else that needs to be done! We need to exalt Christ, our redeemer from sin and eternal death. There is salvation in none other ,but the blood of Jesus Christ!
  • Brother Dan - In Reply on Galatians 4 - 5 years ago
    Mark 2:27

    "And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:"

    Matthew 5:17

    "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

    Matthew 5:18

    "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled."
  • Chris - In Reply on James 1 - 5 years ago
    Thank you for your comments, "Seventh day is sabbath". I always maintain that if the foundation is not settled, then anything built thereon will be shaky. So, referring to your first comment: "The Sabbath was given to man Mark 2:27 at creation Genesis 2:2-3 it's not a day that God required just for the Israelite's to keep, which is why the 4th commandment starts with "remember" it is because the children of Israel had forgotten through hundreds of years of slavery in Egypt."

    It seems that your understanding of those Scriptures in Genesis & Mark applied not only to Israel but to all mankind, or more specifically to the 'other sheep' that were to come into Christ's fold. To this I disagree, for the following reasons:

    a. Exodus 31:13-17 & Ezek 20:12. Clear references as to who should keep the Sabbath & that it was given as not only a day of ceasing from all labours, but as importantly, a sign of the relationship between God & Israel. It was never intended to include Gentiles or the Church in such a requirement.

    b. Galatians 3:19. Shows that both the validity & finality of the Law (the whole Law) was fully realized at the death of Jesus Christ.

    c. Matthew 5:17. Jesus demonstrated that He alone could fulfil the whole requirements of the Law & none else. The Law was given because of "transgressions" but none could obey it fully to please God & satisfy its demands, since "if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law" ( Gal 3:21). So no Law could bring righteousness, even as a certain ruler learned ( Lk 18:18-24). If he believed he obeyed all of God's Law, how did Jesus pick him up on that point of selling all & following him? That man just had a quick lesson to find out that he in fact didn't obey it perfectly: he broke the very first commandment by placing his wealth, & maybe family & other assets, before his love for God.

    How then can we rest on the Law for anything except to know God's Mind & Purposes?
  • Seventh day is sabbath - In Reply on James 1 - 5 years ago
    Chris:

    a. The Sabbath was given to man Mark 2:27 at creation Genesis 2:2-3 it's not a day that God required just for the Israelite's to keep, which is why the 4th commandment starts with "remember" it is because the children of Israel had forgotten through hundreds of years of slavery in Egypt.

    b. Jesus came to this world not to destroy the law and the prophets Matt. 5:17, The law (10 commandments) says to remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.

    The breaking of bread in Acts 20:7 is referring to eating (food) (see Acts 20:11)

    1 Cor. 16:2 the "first day of the week" Paul is referring to putting aside your offerings (collection for the saints) starting on the first day of the week (Sunday) (see 1 Cor.16:1)

    Revelation 1:10 John was in vision on the sabbath (Lord's day is the sabbath, For the son of man is Lord, even of the sabbath day. (see Matthew 12:8)

    c. What was nailed to the cross was the "ceremonial laws" not the 10 commandments. In (Matt.27:51) the veil of the temple was rent in two when Jesus died on the cross, the ceremonial laws that God had required since sin came into the world (sacrificing animals ect) was no longer needed because the ultimate sacrifice had just been made and that was the shedding of blood of a sinless Jesus on the cross.

    Matthew 5:18 One jot or one tittle shall not wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Rev. 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter into the gates of the city.
  • Greg on James 1 - 5 years ago
    WHY DO PEOPLE NOT REST ON THE SABBATH DAY / SEVENTH DAY?

    And God RESTED on the SEVENTH DAY.

    And God BLESSED the SEVENTH DAY and SANCTIFIED the SEVENTH DAY.

    Many have changed the day of rest from the SEVENTH DAY to the first day.

    There are TWO Biblical reasons people believe this.

    1) The first day of the week is the day that Matthew 28:1, Mark and Luke 23:55, 24:2 relate that the sepulchre was opened and Jesus was not found there.

    2) During the 40 days that Jesus was on earth before He rose into heaven He appeared to His disciples seven times. Five of the seven times Jesus met with them on the FIRST DAY of the week. The other two times, the day is not mentioned. Look at Mark 16:9-13, Mark 16:14-18, Luke 24:13-33, Luke 24:34, Luke 24:36-44, John 20:11-23, John 20:26-29.

    None of the examples given above concerning the FIRST DAY of the week allow any authority for us to change the SEVENTH DAY to the FIRST DAY.

    Jesus NEVER GAVE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS.

    ( Mark 2:27-28) "And he said unto them, The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath."

    If we believe in the Father and His only begotten Son, then we have Christ in us every day, not just one day per week.

    This new understanding is an enhancement of the 7th day, not the abolishing of it. It was made to last FOREVER. This is a day that God BLESSED and SANCTIFIED!

    Christ ALWAYS honored the Sabbath.

    The Apostles kept the Sabbath AFTER CHRIST DIED; look at Acts 13:14, 27, 42, 44, Acts 16:13, etc.

    Pentecost is a holy SABBATH day; i.e. a day of rest.

    In Acts 17:2 and Acts 18:4, Paul is continually feeding the people Scripture on the SABBATH. Christ never abolished the Sabbath; neither did Paul. God never said anything concerning that fact, and if He wanted that day changed He would have made it abundantly clear.

    Further study concerning the importance of the Seventh Day can be found throughout ALL Scripture; as well as in the Book of Enoch.
  • Lionel - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    The Sabbath day was the day that God designated as the day that the Israelites would not be doing anything else but praying and worshipping Him. With respect with Israel time The sabbath was from 6pm Saturday to 6pm Sunday so sometime it is believed by some that the Sabbath was on Saturday while others believed it was Sunday.

    Jesus Christ fulfilled the Sabbath day, He is the Master of the Sabbath.
  • Mishael on Sabbath Church What is what - In Reply on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    Matthew chapter 12

    For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

    And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue (Church)

    And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him (Jesus) saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.

    And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?

    How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

    Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.

    Then the Pharisees (Religious people) went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.

    Sabbath is a Jewish word that describes the day everyone goes to Church. And he is showing that it can be on any day of the week if necessary.

    A Christian church is when everyone comes to pray for salvations and healings; everyone agreeing together and praying for someone to experience the power of the Holy Spirit

    Sabbath or Church is for the people...not only the priest or the pastor.

    I've been to some churches where half the service is dance-a-thon and not a lot of study. If you aren't learning anything, you might need to google some churches and see what their Tenets Of Faith are. What are their beliefs.

    We need BIBLE TEACHING! Not psychology, not marriage restoration; not services that are 50% entertainment where people just sit and watch. Do you catch what I'm saying? It's the people that are the engines that drive some church services. A Pastor that doesn't feed his sheep; produces skinny, unhealthy sheep. They fall into ditches, fall into sin.

    This isn't the 80's,90's, 2000-2019. It's 2020. Signs are starting to happen. Jesus is returning SOON. People need to know what's coming on the earth SOON!
  • Nardos on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    what is sabbath
  • Palma on Mark 2 - 5 years ago
    In reference to the confusion as to the identity of Jesus' followers, I offer John 7:5 as evidence that states,"even his brother did not believe in Him". James and Jude, his half brothers by Mary, did not become believers until after the resurrection; therefore, they were not among the 12 apostles and followers of Jesus during his ministry.
  • D.J. - In Reply on John 7:1 - 5 years ago
    Victoria,

    Concerning the 7th day of the week and the 1st day of the week

    The Hebrew definition of the word "week," or "weeks," simply means "sevened."

    The Greek definition of the word "week" is defined as "Sabbath," i.e. the 7th day (of a seven day period); the day of rest.

    The 7th day was established for ALL of mankind back on the 7th Day of Creation ( Genesis 2:2-3, Exodus 20:8-11, Exodus 34:21, etc. etc.) and was never abolished.

    ( Mark 2:27-28) "And he said unto them, The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath."

    If we believe in the Father and His only begotten Son, then we have Christ in us every day, not just one day per week.

    This new understanding is an enhancement of the 7th day, not the abolishing of it. It was made to last forever. This is a day that God BLESSED and SANCTIFIED! Christ always honored the Sabbath. The Apostles kept the Sabbath; look at Acts 13:14, 27, 42, 44, Acts 16:13, etc.

    Pentecost is a holy SABBATH day; i.e. a day of rest.

    Many use the "first day of the week" spoken of in Acts 20:7, to change the Law of God, but this verse concerns the first Sabbath in reckoning the seven Sabbaths until Pentecost. (i.e. the first day of the Sabbath. Week = Sabbath.

    In Acts 17:2 and Acts 18:4, Paul is continually feeding the people Scripture on the SABBATH.

    Christ never abolished the Sabbath; neither did Paul.

    God never said anything concerning that fact, and if He wanted that day changed, He would have made it abundantly clear.

    Have you considered looking at the Dead Sea Scrolls?

    The Book of Enoch, in particular, reveals a 364 day solar priestly calendar.

    52 (weeks) x 7 = 364

    Look at the first book of Enoch; specifically, ch. 72, and ch. 82 (column 27) are words concerning the ancient solar calendar.
  • D.J. - In Reply on Revelation 7:9 - 5 years ago
    Kim Burrow, Comments concerning the 7th day, Law, and Grace.

    Concerning the Sabbath:

    The Hebrew definition of the word "week," or "weeks," simply means "sevened."

    The Greek definition is clear, as the word "week" is defined as "Sabbath," i.e. the 7th day (of a seven day period); the day of rest.

    The 7th day was established for ALL of mankind back on the 7th Day of Creation ( Genesis 2:2, 3) and was never abolished.

    ( Mark 2:27-28) "And he said unto them, The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath. Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath."

    If we believe in the Father and His only begotten Son, then we have Christ in us every day, not just one day per week.

    This new understanding is an enhancement of the 7th day, not the abolishment of it. It was made to last forever. This is a day that God BLESSES and SANCTIFIED! Christ always honored the Sabbath. The Apostles kept the Sabbath; look at Acts 13:14, 27, 42, 44, Acts 16:13, etc.

    Pentecost is a holy SABBATH day; i.e. a day of rest.

    The "first day of the week" spoken of in Acts 20:7, concerns the first Sabbath in reckoning the seven Sabbaths until Pentecost. (i.e. the first day of the Sabbath. Week = Sabbath.

    In Acts 17:2 and Acts 18:4, Paul is continually feeding the people Scripture on the SABBATH. Christ never abolished the Sabbath; neither did Paul. God never said anything concerning that fact, and if He wanted that day changed He would have made it abundantly clear.

    To pluck a few verses out of Scripture and declare a law of God to be null and void (especially with so much Scripture speaking contrary to what you are proposing) is playing fast and loose with His words.

    *Look at the book of Enoch; specifically chapter 72 and 82 (column 27) concerning the ancient Enoch Solar priestly Calendar. A 364 day calendar (52 x 7)
  • CARLOS RAMIREZ TREVINO - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 6 years ago
    Angeline, With respect to keeping the Sabbath, what were the requirements? What is your take on statements that seem to say it doesn't matter if you keep the Sabbath?

    Mark 2:27

    Then Jesus declared, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath. Therefore, the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath."

    Mark 7:19

    because it does not enter his heart, but it goes into the stomach and then is eliminated." (Thus all foods are clean.)

    Romans 14:3

    For one person has faith to eat all things, while another, who is weak, eats only vegetables. The one who eats everything must not belittle the one who does not, and the one who does not eat everything must not judge the one who does, for God has accepted him.

    Romans 14:5

    One man regards a certain day above the others, while someone else considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes a special day does so to the Lord; he who eats does so to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God.

    Romans 14:17

    For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.

    Galatians 4:10

    But now that you know God, or rather are known by God, how is it that you are turning back to those weak and worthless principles? Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again? You are observing special days and months and seasons and years!

    Colossians 2:20

    If you have died with Christ to the spiritual forces of the world, why, as though you still belonged to the world, do you submit to its regulations: These will all perish with use, because they are based on human commands and teachings.



    1 Timothy 4:3

    They will prohibit marriage and require abstinence from certain foods that God has created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.

    Hebrews 9:10

    They consist only in food and drink and special washings--external regulations imposed until the time of reform.
  • Adam - In Reply on James 1 - 6 years ago
    Jesus already said exactly who he came for. Luke 19:10, Mark 2:17. He came for the lost and sinners. Who is lost and a sinner? Romans 3:23 - Everyone. So, Jesus came for everyone- that's exactly what the Bible says. Jesus gave a firm warning to those who try to deceive others by twisting or denying what Jesus said: Mark 8:38, 1 John 2:22-23.


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