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  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Precious brother Chris, I appreciate your Great discussion with me. I have posted for several years, and you are The Very First to consider/discuss these things. The rest have just written me off as confused or a heretic (denying Acts 2:38). So, in my understanding of (NOT denying) it:

    I believe Paul "did baptize some" during God's Transition from Law (with water) to HIS PURE GRACE (Without water!). Most think that the great commission to the Twelve apostles of Israel, is 'exactly the same' as the commission to Paul, the apostle of the Gentiles. This does not make sense since CHRIST told the Twelve THEY "WERE SENT"

    to baptize, while CHRIST told Paul he "WAS NOT SENT to baptize." {the same thing?}

    I cannot reconcile that for today, because God Gave Paul A 'Different' Program, The Revelation Of The MYSTERY, With The Gospel Of GRACE, And the "commission of Reconciliation" Because of CHRIST's Finished Work on The Cross!

    ( Romans 16:25) ( Colossians 1:20) ( 2 Corinthians 5:17-21) + ( 2 Corinthians 6:2)

    Thus, I believe This "Hid In God" Revelation ( Ephesians 3:9) Must Be:

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From "Things That DIFFER!":

    Many 'assume' The Gospel Of GRACE was Immediately preached after the cross, but

    closer Prayerful/Careful examination reveals:

    1) LAW was preached, obeyed, and taught to "thousand of Jewish believers"

    ( Matthew 28:19-20) Notice: Christ Specifically Said "teaching them TO OBSERVE ALL things I HAVE COMMANDED you" - one of them was Matthew 23:1-3, Correct?

    2) Water baptized Jewish believers OBEYED ALL CHRIST's Commands, SOLD EVERYTHING, And were "zealous of The LAW," even as late as Acts 21:20!

    3) IF the great commission IS FOR US today, then I see NO ONE "obeying it as these were!"

    Thus, Chris, I just cannot reconcile LAW "being Exactly THE SAME as" GRACE ( Romans 11:6)

    More 'available' on church birthday, and The ONE Baptism {a 'verse for annulment of water'?} "study" of today, IF you wish... Thanks Again, and Be Well, Precious brother!
  • Alex on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    But Matthew 28: 18 is after he was risen, His blood resulted in a new covenant which was the baptism of Promise ,Baptising them in the Name of the father Son and the H.G. was the baptism of Promise. As Jesus said wait for the Promise of the Father Which ye have heard of me ( his words seeds etc) ye shall be baptised with the H.G not many days hence which was the Promise baptism. As the H.G. fell on them that heard his words etc. Back in the upper room he breathe on them which was his breath his words the good seeds but the Child did not come till Pentecost,b/f the cross they only received the good seed, his breathe etc. The H.G. was the Child of Promise that did not come till Pentecost,That mighty rushing wind was the H.G. the Child of Promise . That which is Born of the spirit is spirit thats the H.G. the Child of Promise. Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child ye will in no wise enter there in. Remember he told em b/c i have spoken these words his seeds, his breath, sorrows have filled your hearts a spritual pregnancy etc. But after the Child comes her sorrows are turned into joy. The new Birth, The Church is the woman that is gona birth a baby CHRIST. via his seeds etc. When Jeremiah saw the new covenant he also saw All men in travail and birth pains. The Child is the H.G A HEAVENLY JACOB THE GRANSON THAT WILL RESULT IN AN Israel of God. A time of Jacobs troubles there is gonna be war in heaven when the woman gives birth her Child is the H.G. tHAT heavenly JACOB MEANING THERE IS GONNA BE AN ISRAEL OF GOD that is gona be as the stars of heaven. k later
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Thank you brother ChrisE, I was afraid that I did understand you, as you wrote about this in your comments.

    Re: 1 Corinthians 1:17. I believe that Paul "was not sent to baptize", as his calling & ministry was specifically to the preaching of the Gospel & for the establishing of assemblies of believers particularly among the Gentiles, to whom he was called. However, he did baptize Crispus ( 1 Corinthians 1:14, Acts 18:8) & Gaius ( Romans 16:23), & others, such as the household of Stephanus ( 1 Corinthians 1:16), though this seemed not to be the thrust of his ministry. So the fact that he did baptize (& I doubt if we could interpret the word to be 'baptize with the Spirit'), it must prove that water baptism was still performed as prescribed by the Lord in Matthew 28:19. How else would you read this?

    I can understand where Ephesians 4:5 & 1 Corinthians 12:13 (as examples given by you) refer to baptism by the Spirit, however, the other references ( Colossians 2:12; Galatians 3:27; & Romans 6:3-4) clearly imply that believers were baptized in water. So yes, I see two baptisms: one for identification & the other, for bringing into the Body of Christ & infilling.

    In your mind, would Scriptures such as Matthew 28:18; Acts 8:13; Acts 8:36; Acts 9:18; Acts 10:47,48; Acts 16:15; Acts 16:33; Acts 18:8; Acts 19:5; & Acts 22:16, be speaking of Spirit baptism? I ask, as I've attempted with great difficulty to reinterpret those verses to mean anything other than immersion in water. Yes, there is the ONE Baptism that is important, that from the Spirit, yet the Scripture is replete with examples of water baptism following repentance as an act of identification. Now if I could find a verse to show the annulment of it, I would be forced to re-think this matter. Thank you for sharing those thoughts brother.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Precious brother Chris said: "I perceive that from your explanation of baptism history & its connection to the Baptism of John, that you also believe that today's water baptism (as prescribed by our Lord in Matthew 28:19,20) has lost its currency - that baptism by the Holy Spirit is what has been preached & given since the Church formed.

    I believe there is NO water ritual {which was Previously FOR Israel}, for The Body Of CHRIST, currently, for Today - Summed Up:

    Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION, Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)

    Thus, it is impossible to ADD water, equalling TWO baptismS today, when God ONLY has

    ONE! Correct?

    I have an Expanded "study" on God's ONE Baptism, for us, The Body Of CHRIST, Today, IF you wish to consider it, also?...

    Precious brother Chris, please Be RICHLY Encouraged!

    ChrisE
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Brother ChrisE. Thank you for your in-depth, enlightening comments on the various 'baptisms'. I may be mistaken, but I perceive that from your explanation of baptism history & its connection to the Baptism of John, that you also believe that today's water baptism (as prescribed by our Lord in Matthew 28:19,20) has lost its currency - that baptism by the Holy Spirit is what has been preached & given since the Church formed. Why I assume this, is from your Points #9, 9c, c1-3.

    Point 9: I don't believe the Apostle "Peter continued (After The Cross!), to preach" (John's baptism). I see that each of the baptisms were different: of the priesthood, the Jews, by John, administered to Christ, believers' baptism. As much as I can understand your connection of the various baptisms, the baptism of Jesus & then the subsequent baptism of Jesus' followers (post-Cross) are quite different. Why did the Lord volunteer to be baptized under John's baptism? He had no sin to repent of or of induction into the priesthood. If it was to "fulfil all righteousness", it indicated a different aspect to baptism that He alone could observe, fulfilling His Father's Will in preparation for the reason for His Coming.

    Points 9c, c1-3: "Baptism of Repentance" is not for today. That was peculiar to John's. The baptism post-Cross is what we term 'Believers' Baptism' & this is purely in response to the Lord's Directive & to Identification with Him. Colossians 2:10-12: "Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead." Also Romans 6:3,4; 1 Peter 3:20,21. In this baptism, confession of sins is not made as was under John's, because there is no transmission of Grace in it, simply one of obedience & identification: going 'part & parcel' with repentance & spiritual re-birth.

    But if you were referring only to those believing in baptism into the Israeli priesthood, but support 'believer's baptism', then I apologize.
  • Adam - 4 years ago
    Below are scriptures everyone should read and pray deeply for wisdom and understanding for. Beware of anyone trying to attack, disrespect, or demean Jesus or the name of Jesus. Jesus loves you and died for you. Scripture indicates that Jesus is God. Jesus is not God the father, but God the son. The 3 are all united as 1. There aren't 3 separate gods, there is 1 God with 3 parts as 1 John 5:7 says. We could debunk every one of the deniers' disengenuous arguments, but that would take a lot of space and most are closed off anyway. The same info is also online in countless websites. Satan loves going after any weakness he can find and people keep falling for the same tricks. Christians should simply pray about this and ask the holy spirit to either confirm or convict them on what the truth is. God bless...

    1 John 5:7

    Genesis 1:26

    Genesis 11:6-7

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    John 1:1

    Philippians 2:5

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    1 John 5:7

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 5:8

    1 John 2:22-24

    Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

    Matthew 1:23-25
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Precious brother Chris. So glad you brought up: "'Law Administration' is difficult to comprehend when water baptism was not part of the Law to Israel (except concerning the priesthood as a ritual cleansing)." In regards to this, you may find the following "view of Israel's priesthood" Very Interesting - thanks for your careful/prayerful consideration:

    {Borrowed from my 12 baptisms "study"}: ONE of Israel's various washings! Greek: Baptismos = ( Hebrews 9:10):

    4. Levitical priesthood baptism ( Exodus 29:4) ( Leviticus 8:6) ( Numbers 8:7). This washing was The Second Requirement { The First being: "NO blemish!" ( Leviticus 21:21) }, in order to become a priest under the Law of Moses! Is this baptism in any way connected To baptism # 9?:

    9. "water" baptism of repentance that John preached (Before The Cross), And Peter continued (After The Cross!), to preach! ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25).

    a) Does this baptism "save" anyone ( Luke 7:29-30?)?

    b1) Is this baptism in any way "connected" to baptism # 4?

    b2) Wasn't John preparing National Israel for God's Promise For them "to be a nation of priests unto God" ( Exodus 19:6!)?

    b3) Was not The Second Requirement for priesthood induction, Washing? { may require re-review of baptism #4! }.

    b4) Did not CHRIST And The Twelve "heal" everyone in Israel who came to them, in order to meet "The FIRST Requirement" For the priesthood, that Of "NO blemish!"? ( Matthew 4:24) ( Acts 5:16) compare: ( Leviticus 21:21)

    More questions - to be continued
  • Adam - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Read all of the scriptures and ignore the cultists who stray from God's Word or distort scripture. Even children can understand what these verses mean so I think some adults are just wanting to reinforce what they already want to believe, because it's convenient for other reasons. Is a Christian a real Christ follower if he doesn't believe in the divinity of Christ? That is something we should pray deeply and study deeply about.

    1 John 5:7

    Genesis 1:26

    Genesis 11:6-7

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    John 1:1

    Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    1 John 5:7

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 5:8

    1 John 2:22-24

    Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

    Matthew 1:23-25
  • Adam - In Reply - 4 years ago
    This sounds like an intellectually disingenuous question. Even children understand the concept of the Godhead or trinity- it's straight from God's word. If you don't understand it, that's fine, have you tried praying for wisdom and understanding. It's possible some of these comments are games a person is playing to try to pull some away from the truth to his cult-like beliefs not from the Bible. That's like doing the work of the devil. Here's some good reading material for the cultists.

    1 John 5:7

    Genesis 1:26

    Genesis 11:6-7

    John 10:30

    John 8:19

    John 1:1

    Philippians 2:5 - 2:8

    2 Corinthians 5:19

    John 1:3

    1 John 5:7

    Matthew 28:19

    1 Peter 1:2

    2 Corinthians 13:14

    Deuteronomy 6:4

    John 14:10

    John 20:28

    1 John 5:8

    1 John 2:22-24

    Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

    Matthew 1:23-25
  • Adam - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Not sure how you like these verses in the Bible then, because it clearly says Jesus is God. To deny this is to deny God's word:

    1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

    John 10:30 "I and my Father are one."

    John 8:19 "if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also."

    John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    "the Word was God."

    That's hard to deny that truth. Let's read that again.

    "the Word was God."

    And it sounds like you're saying "the Word wasn't God." The Bible says one thing, you're saying another- the opposite.

    Satan is the father of lies and he is no doubt behind every major deception, especially among Christians. A Christian is a Christ follower. Does that term bother you since you deny the above verses about His diety? This twisting of scripture in order to achieve a certain narrative seems awfully like the CNN version of the Bible.

    Let's continue with more truth in scripture to refute the false assumptions posted here...

    Philippians 2:5 - 2:8 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:"

    John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    Matthew 28:19 "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"

    Deuteronomy 6:4 "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:"

    John 14:10 "Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works."

    John 20:28

    "And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God."

    1 John 5:8 "And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one."
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Clayton, Precious friend. Two things concerning "baptized to be saved":

    (1) Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)

    +

    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    (2) Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,

    Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!

    ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4)

    ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)

    -------------------------------

    Thus, This ONE Baptism Is Performed, By God, Today, Under God's GRACE/MYSTERY Program, when the believer "confesses Jesus as Lord and Savior and believes that He died and rose again, and God saves them" in the twinkling of an eye.

    So, "water baptism" Is Scriptural, But Dispensationally, "was for the Previous Law/Prophecy Program" of God, For ISRAEL!

    Conclusion, water baptism is Scriptural, but, TODAY, is UNdispensational! Amen?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
  • GRACEambassador ChrisE - In Reply on Ecclesiastes 7 - 4 years ago
    Mark, Precious friend, there is NO water baptism, today, Under God's GRACE. ie:

    Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then, we have to find out WHICH of the Many Various "denominational traditions" is the Correct one, Correct?

    However, IF God Says "NO," as I believe All Scripture Shows below, then "yes" is OUT of the question, yes?:

    "Summary study" on this Important Issue:

    Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli "priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)

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    B) WITH The Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16)

    Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That Differ!:

    Mystery/GRACE! = our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul Was Not Sent to {water} baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,

    Spiritually Identifying members In (The ONE Body Of) CHRIST!!

    ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4)

    ( 1 Corinthians 12:13)

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONE OR, EQUALS TWO?

    Is it not Possible That God's Answer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely vanquishes the {Many Severely DIVIDED denominations?} Confusion into oblivion!? Also, "...we walk By FAITH, Not by sight..." ( 2 Corinthians 5:7) Amen?

    Mark, Precious friend, Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
  • GRACEambassador ChrisE - In Reply on Romans 8 - 4 years ago
    Gerald, my Precious friend, I'll take your question "2: How should we be baptized?" Better

    is to first ask: Does God Require water baptism, today? IF yes, then find out "how."

    IF not, then no need to find that out, Correct? Here is my "Summary study" on this Important Issue:

    Prophecy/Law for ISRAEL: The Twelve Were Sent to water baptize!

    The TWO Main, of 12 baptisms =

    A) water, For remission of sins/induction into Israeli"priesthood!" ( Matthew 3:5-6) ( Mark 1:4) ( Luke 3:3) ( John 1:31) ( Luke 7:29-30) ( Acts 10:37) ( Matthew 28:19) ( Mark 16:16) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 22:16) ( Ezekiel 36:25) ( John 18:35) ( Exodus 19:6)

    +

    B) WITHThe Holy Spirit, Poured Out By CHRIST, for power, signs And wonders! ( Isaiah 44:3) ( Matthew 3:11) ( Mark 1:8) ( Mark 16:17-18) ( Luke 24:49) ( Acts 2:17-18) ( Acts 2:38) ( Acts 8:15-17) ( Acts 11:16) Prophecy/Law

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things ThatDiffer!:

    Mystery/GRACE! =our "apostle to the Gentiles" for The Body Of CHRIST:

    Paul WasNot Sent to water baptize! Why Not?:

    Today: Only ONE Baptism = "BY" The ONE Spirit = God's OPERATION,Spiritually Identifying members Into The ONE Body Of CHRIST!! ( Ephesians 4:5) ( Colossians 2:12) ( Galatians 3:27) ( Romans 6:3-4) ( 1 Corinthians 12:13) MYSTERY/GRACE! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Conclusion: God's ONE Baptism Today? = ONEOR, EQUALS TWO?

    Is it not Possible That God'sAnswer Of "No water baptism, for us Today," Under HIS Pure GRACE, absolutely "Solves" theMany Severely DIVIDED denominations' Confusion!?

    Please be Richly Encouraged, enlightened, exhorted, and edified!
  • Puleng - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    Thank you
  • Dianne - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    To be baptised in His name is to confess Romans 10:9+10 which equals John 24:29 which equals Acts 1: 5-8 water has nothing to do with it its receiving god's Holy Spirit.
  • Dianne - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    Last command given by Jesus Christ to the Disciples Acts 1:4-9 when you believe Romans 10:9=10 from your heart inner most part of your being. You receive Gods gift holy spirit, eternal life we become a Child of God. We are a new creation in Christ, by God through Christ we have been made righteous, sanctified, justified,redeemed, and have been given the ministry of reconciliation 2 Corinthians 5:19. what a package deal. God Bless.
  • Puleng on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    What does that mean by saying baptise in the name of Jesus name. and in the name of father son and holy spirit
  • David on Psalms 46 - 4 years ago
    God wants me to remember what He did for me in the past. I should not fear what is before me, because the Lord is always there for me.

    Let us trust in the Lord, even in this time of extreme trouble due to the Covid 19 pandemic.

    We, who are saved, must go forth in the strength of the Lord God Almighty. Matthew 28: 18-20

    God bless everyone in this time July 2021.
  • David on 2 Samuel 8 - 4 years ago
    May we be as David was. As we reflect on what God the Lord Jesus Christ did and is doing for us, it should move us to do something to praise and glorify Him. Ephesians 2: 8-10

    We should intensify and draw closer in our relationship with the Lord. Our prayer life and private devotions should glorify the Lord. Our efforts should be in line with His will. Matthew 28: 18-20. We are in great need of the Lord's hand on us. Especially during this global pandemic we are going through. 2 Chronicles 7:14 - 16.

    I am striving to do this, but find myself falling woefully short. May we lift all the saints in prayer, especially those in positions of authority, both civil and ecclesiastical. Prayer for the lost, as it is not God's desire that anyone be lost 2 Peter 3:9

    God bless all the saints on this platform. July 2021
  • Rachel Briggs on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    praise the lord

    this shows what we are facing today as christians. lies,doubt and money. this must not dampen our love towards God through his son Jesus but should be used as the foundation to know about Christ more and more and to dispel the lies, doubt and the selfish use of money.

    that is my view.
  • Dianne - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    Chelsea you don't need anyone around to be saved and baptized Confess romans 10:9+10 and believe, I've known people who got born again in closets, hospital beds, jail cells, etc. that is between you and the father also to receive Holy spirit is the same thing, God is more willing to give than we are to receive. Also no body is good enough that's why we have a saviour its not given by merit its given because we need it and God knows that. All things of God are given freely, we just need to do whats written to recieve. Also you don't need water look at Acts 1:4-6 so believe and receive. God Bless
  • Chelsea - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    Thank you so much for taking the time to talk to me and guide me in faith so swiftly. Bless you for all you have done for me. I pray that anything ailing you or weighing on you is healed just as swiftly as you have helped me. In jesus' name I pray. thank you Lord. Amen
  • Chris - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    Hello Chelsea. Further to what Adam has written & what I had earlier written to someone else who was in a similar situation to you: there are some Churches who will want you to fellowship with them & even participate in their Bible studies so that they can know you & establish your testimony by your witness & faithfulness before they will baptize. However, that is not a biblical requirement - generally Christians of the New Testament churches were baptized very soon after believing/being saved upon the testimony of salvation - baptism by the Spirit (being born again) & water baptism essentially go hand-in-hand.

    Since you have now felt the need to be baptized, have you spoken to the preacher who first led you to the Lord? Even though he may be old or possibly incapable, he can verify your faith & even suggest/appoint someone to baptize you. And baptism does not need to be done in a baptismal font in a Church building - a river, a swimming pool, the beach, etc. would do just fine. Generally, the one who shares the Gospel & leads that person to salvation should also take the responsibility to see to the baptism ( Acts 8:27-39) - but I realize that nowadays, that's certainly not the case & baptism becomes just an added-on appendage.

    And continue to be a loving wife to your unsaved husband - I can hardly imagine how difficult & distressing such a situation can be at times. Let your devotion to the Lord & your love & faithfulness to your husband always be evident to him, that he would have no accusation against your life & witness, & perchance, by your exemplary behaviour, your witness might speak mightily to his heart of the power of Christ & the Gospel. Remain strong in the Lord, sister.
  • Adam - In Reply on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    Hi Chelsea,

    I'm not aware of any requirements the Bible has for someone baptizing another. But it's my opinion, that the person should be a Christian and should already be baptized him or herself. The examples of people baptizing in the Bible were Christian leaders (disciples).

    But I also don't believe all churches require membership to be baptized. In my decades of church involvement, I'm not aware of any church that required that. The churches would happily baptize anyone who wanted to be- it's something encouraged and celebrated, not discouraged. So, I believe that if you simply asked a few more churches that you would find a 'yes', unless you have certain demands or requirements yourself you have imposed on them, such as not doing it during a service, but privately. God bless!
  • Chelsea on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    I was saved a few months ago. I am a stay at home mother with a husband who has no interest in church so I attend church every day on tv when he is not home. I want to be babtized but churches near me require I attend their church for months before they will baptize me. I honor my husband by keeping my faith to myself. His father lead me in my faith and was a Pentecostal preacher. He briefly lost his faith and stopped preaching but is now as faithful as ever. Can my father in law baptize me since no one else is willing to?
  • Israel on Matthew 28 - 4 years ago
    the lord will increase
  • Sacha - In Reply on Matthew 28:1 - 4 years ago
    Earl Bowman ,wow ,thankyou for that powerful message ,it struck me like a bolt of lightening .
  • Brother Dan - In Reply on Matthew 28:1 - 4 years ago
    I do not believe the bible specifically states Saturday is the Sabbath. But I have also not seen mention of the other specific days of the week (ie. Wed, Thurs. etc.).

    The Jewish people have always observed the Sabbath as Saturday. Jesus was a Jew and he observed Saturday/Sabbath as well.

    Most everyone in the world will agree that Sunday is the 1st day of the week. Check all of the dictionary's and they will state that Saturday is the last day of the week.

    So the last day, or 7th day of the week is Saturday and has been for centuries.

    Here in scripture below reference to Jesus preparation for burial prior to Saturday/Sabbath.

    Mark 15:42

    "And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath,"

    Exodus 20:11

    "For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it."

    Luke 4:16

    "And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read."

    So God rested on the 7th day, and he gave a gift to us, the 4th Commandment, to also rest our body and mind from our normal weekday working activities, among other things to pray, give thanks and reflect on God. A day to breath! It really is a wonderful gift!

    God Bless
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Matthew 28:1 - 4 years ago
    C, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

    Man cannot see himself being something other than what he is now in this flesh.

    Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the next world. We have to be RE-CREATED to inherit the SPIRIT world.

    There is no works that we can do to accomplish this.

    The WORKS OF CHRIST will bring this about.

    John 6:63 It is the Spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you the are SPIRIT, and they (the words that are SPIRIT) GIVE LIFE.

    The flesh lives in a world of time, the SPIRIT lives in a world where time does not exist.

    In the Old Covenant man was given laws,

    One being to observe the seventh day as a day of rest; Physical SABBATH.

    When the SPIRIT comes to you and HIS WORDS BECOME words of SPIRIT (life); time is no more:

    The SABBATH became SPIRIT and we REST in SPIRIT; or we rest IN CHRIST.

    We have ceased from OUR WORKS as he ceased from his works.

    Hebrews 10:1 For the law was a shadow (not the real thing) of things to come...

    Hebrews 4:10 For he that hath entered into HIS REST, he also hath ceased from his works, as God did from his.

    You ARE BEING CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS; it's a GIFT be still and BEHOLD the SALVATION OF GOD.
  • C on Matthew 28:1 - 4 years ago
    I have grown up to belive that Sunday is the sabbath day ,now some are saying that Saturday is the sabbath day ,can you show me in the bible where it states the named day of the sabbath by God.

    Thank You


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