Discuss Revelation 19 Page 5

  • Anna - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Matthew 24:35, Psalm 12:6-7, John 6:63, Psalm 119:89,

    1 Peter 1:23-25, Proverbs 30:5, Luke 4:4, Acts 19:20, Romans 10:17,

    John 1:1-3, Revelation 19:11-16.
  • God is Wonderful to those who Seek - In Reply on John 5 - 3 years ago
    In a reference Bible there are some explanation to that passage. I'll list them:

    Isaiah 41:4, 6

    Daniel 7:13, 10:5, 7:9

    Daniel 2:18

    Revelation 19:12-16

    Alpha- beginning

    Omega- end

    I didn't see it for a long time, but one day I was reading Genesis 1:1 in Hebrew. It said, "In Beginning".

    My brain exploded.

    First Day, God created TIME for earth. God exists outside of time and inside of time. That is how He sees us "alpha" and "omega". He knows who will and who will not receive the Salvation He has prepared for us.

    PRAYER can change things or how we can accept things. The woman who tithed the widows mite, impressed Jesus.

    All of our days are recorded in a Book. Which means unborn children are known by God. He called prophets from the womb.

    Time is for weather, seasons, plant, harvest, animals mate, give birth; eggs to be hatched. It's huge just thinking about all the things that depend on time.

    Time is the one thing scientists couldn't find formulas of its origins. They have carbon dating, bigger space projects. No one is going to publish a Formula for Time.

    Genesis isn't the only place in the Bible where it speaks of Gods creation. They don't want to give God credit for it.

    "They" thought we'd understand it better if they added THE: in the beginning. Other stuff-God doesn't step in and stop car wrecks. But if we pray, we'll survive with just a little damage. He honors our free will.

    I think alpha and Omaha are Greek words.

    God has spread gold nuggets of revelation all through the Bible. Just laying there. If we read too fast, we will race past it.

    I was reading Ezekiel 37 about the bones. I know it's Israel. (I had dry bones in my life). I skimmed past where God says prophesy UPON these bones.

    The Holy Spirit tells me to prophesy. I said aloud the scriptures. Then he said, you can prophesy over YOUR dry bones!

    I'm scared to say THUS saith THE LORD. I cower while I'm thinking of dead things in my life.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply on John 2 - 3 years ago
    Hey Keith,

    We must not look for one country, when the beast ascends from the bottomless pit and Satan gives his power, seat, and authority to him Revelation 13, this world will change. The ten horns of the beast are ten kings/leaders, they give their strength and power to the beast. We do not know what nations and armies they will control, but we do know it will be the nations of the world.

    The battle of Armageddon will start just before the return of Jesus, Revelation 19:11. The ten kings/leaders, along with the beast and false prophet will make war with Jesus, Revelation 17:14 we know what happens Revelation 19:19-21.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Elizabeth - 3 years ago
    The Bible has a number of places that speak of animals in glory.

    1. Isaiah 11:6-9

    The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

    7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.

    8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.

    9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.

    2. Isaiah 65:24-25

    And it shall come to pass, that before they call, I will answer; and while they are yet speaking, I will hear.

    25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the Lord.

    3. Revelation 19:13-14

    And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

    14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

    There are other things that could be added to this short list. But this is a good place to start.
  • Roman on Isaiah 26 - 3 years ago
    3 verses:

    Isaiah 26:20 before the storm, little moment.

    Revelation 19:2 after the storm, Babylon falls.

    Isaiah 54:7 promise of resurrection, small moment.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Revelation 19 - 3 years ago
    Please see these references: Mark 9:1-7, Matthew 17:2, Matthew 28:3, Luke 9:29, Revelation 19:11-16, Revelation 1:14, Mark 16:5, John 20:12, Acts 1:10, Ecclesiastes 9:8, Revelation 3:4,5, Revelation 7:9-17, Revelation 20:11, Isaiah 1:18, Revelation 6:2,11, Revelation 9:18, Daniel 11:35, Revelation 4:4, Daniel 7:9, Revelation 2:17, Daniel 12:10,

    John 4:35,

    But Also : Genesis 40:16-23, Joel 1:7, Leviticus 13, Revelation 15:6,

    Hopefully these are helpful.
  • Philip Christian Parks - In Reply on Revelation 19:20 - 3 years ago
    Brother Charles, My very first statement in fact does state that during CHRIST JESUS's crucifixion, HE did bleed HIS own blood and HE did die for our sins. My point disagrees with many who erroneously believe CHRIST dipped HIS vesture in HIS own blood which HE shed on Calvary's cross. This is their interpretation of the expression, "HE (LORD JESUS) was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood" ( Rev. 19:13).

    This blood on HIS vesture is not HIS own, but rather that of HIS enemies of whom HE slays (v.15).

    CHRIST shed HIS blood to save HIS people. HE did so during HIS crucifixion. But the context of Revelation Nineteen is not a context of vicarious sacrifice, but rather of war ( Rev. 19:11), bloodshed (cp. Rev. 14:20), and death ( Rev. 19:15 & 21).
  • Lata joshi on Revelation 19 - 3 years ago
    What does the white colour indicate as said in the Bible, my most favorable colour is white ,what does it mean about me...plz I would like to know
  • Charles Robert Northup - In Reply on Revelation 19:20 - 3 years ago
    Dude if you don't think that Christ shed his blood on the croos you are lost and God lied, Everyone thinks they can interpreate Rvealations but miss the one most important part Rev1:3Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. So what are we to keep? Do you know what I get out of revelations, I don't want to live through it and if Revelations doesn't make us fear God nothing can. The fear of the lord leads to salvation. Man's wisdom is foolishness to God. So much more to focus on to live godly in the Bible so you don't suffer God's wrath. Revelations is God's wrath
  • David L Valentin - In Reply on Revelation 19:20 - 3 years ago
    Close and accurate with the exception of the blood not being of Christ. The necessity to be born of virgin not a man's will, he took on the form of flesh and was made a little lower than the angels for the atonement "I will build a new covenant in my blood!

    "For if the blood of goats could take away sin there would not be a need to enter in a second time!

    the only thing that protects us from the Holy Wrath of God is the precious blood of Jesus, after that everything is accurate

    "If you would be shy of me, I would be shy of you in front of my father"

    All sinners saved by Grace, our only defense " The Blood of the Lamb of God"!
  • The Battle of Armageddon - In Reply on Revelation 19:20 - 3 years ago
    Reading Revelation, you will find that the Ark of the Testament is in heaven. This means that it was moved; as was the Tree of Life.

    Realistically, it would take time to slay a 200 million man army + Antichrist's army. More than a day. I can't think of Jesus chopping off heads, arms or legs.

    I'm just thinking that the Ark will be on the battlefield. It will be opened and his enemies will drop dead.

    Revelation Chapter 11

    17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

    18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    19 And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ARK of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

    I just have to go with what I know about our Lord. He's not a butcher. He's the King of kings; Lord of lords. We'll be there too, so however it goes down, we'll be part of it. Mishael
  • Philip Christian Parks on Revelation 19:20 - 3 years ago
    Rev. 19:13 = This blood is not CHRIST's own that HE shed during HIS crucifixion. No, this blood is the blood of CHRIST's enemies that HE will draw during Armageddon. Verse fifteen speaks of CHRIST treading the winepress (see also 14:20). Deuteronomy 32:14 describes the juice of the grape as blood. Interpret the graphic language to mean CHRIST will violently attack HIS enemies with such force that HE will splatter their blood on HIS vesture with such abundance that it will become soaked and dripping.

    All soldiers experienced in combat, and all who study war, know that soldiers often bloody themselves with the blood of those they kill. When JESUS CHRIST engages in the Battle of Armageddon, HE intends to save no one, nor take prisoners, for HE battles to slaughter the armies of the Antichrist without mercy. Even Revelation 19:21 describes CHRIST ensuring HE kills every last one of the Antichrist's rebellious armies: "the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which [sword] proceeded out of his mouth ..." The blood drenching HIS vesture is that of HIS enemies.

    Isaiah 63:1-4 describes JESUS CHRIST fighting Armageddon. Isaiah recorded that prophecy in the prophetic perfect tense. In verse one, Isaiah asks, "WHO is THIS that comes from Edom, with dyed {bloodied} garments from Bozrah?" The mentioning of Edom and Bozrah suggests Armageddon is a series of battles culminating in Armageddon. The PERSON in question is The MESSIAH/CHRIST.

    In verse two, Isaiah asked another important question: "Wherefore art THOU red in THINE apparel, and THY garments (including HIS vesture) like him that treadeth in the winefat?" This question accepts the fact that when one stomps grapes in the wine press, he traumatically expels the "blood of the grape" (Deu. 32:14) resulting in splattering the wine presser's clothing with grape juice. This metaphor proves that the blood drenching CHRIST's vesture is not HIS Own, but that of HIS enemies.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Jacqueline.

    I'm not sure that's in scripture the way you put it. Here's a link.

    The imagery and symbolism of marriage is applied to Christ and the body of believers known as the church. The church is comprised of those who have trusted in Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and have received eternal life. Christ, theBridegroom, has sacrificially and lovingly chosen the church to be His bride ( Ephesians 5:25-27). Just as there was a betrothal period in biblical times during which the bride and groom were separated until the wedding, so is the bride of Christ separate from her Bridegroom during the church age. Her responsibility during the betrothal period is to be faithful to Him ( 2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:24). At therapture, the church will be united with the Bridegroom and the official "wedding ceremony" will take place and, with it, the eternal union of Christ and His bride will be actualized ( Revelation 19:7-9;21:1-2).

    God bless.
  • SPENCER SHAW - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Jesus is God Alimighty

    1 Timothy 3:16 KJV - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

    Matthew 1:23 KJV - Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.

    John 1:1-3 KJV - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

    Isaiah 9:6 KJV - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

    Revelation 19:11-16 KJV - And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God. And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean. And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

    Colossians 2:8-9 KJV - Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    Hebrews 1:8 KJV - But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever:
  • Adam - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Donna,

    The Bible flat out says Jesus is God in John 1:1.

    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."

    "Word was God"

    It flat out says the Word is Jesus in John 1:14 and onward. It also calls Jesus God in other scripture too, so one has to deny much of the Bible in order to deny Jesus's divinity. Why are people so motivated to deny Jesus, one might ask? Matthew 10:32-33

    The Word was God literally means the Word was God. It doesn't say the Word wasn't God. It doesn't say the Word was a different God. It doesn't say the Word was God the father. It doesn't say was kind of a God, but not really. People seem to really enjoy twisting this and trying hard to make it mean something else, but it doesn't mean something else. The Word was God still means the "Word was God." It cannot be denied what it so clearly says.

    I heard someone who seemed motivated to not want Jesus to be his Lord or God go on to say that the Word didn't mean Jesus and wanted it to mean the Bible. But that person forgot that the Bible already says the Word is Jesus in John 1:14. It again calls Jesus the Word in Revelation 19:13.

    So, all the other speculation doesn't really matter. People's devised human arguments in order to rationalize or distort to fit what one wants to believe is all irrelevant. The fact is John 1:1 says Jesus is God and the real question is does someone believe in the Bible as God's word or not? I choose to believe it. I hope others do too. Satan loves deceiving and tricking people into rationalizing away and cherry picking certain things over others.



    1 Corinthians 8:6 (Jesus made all things), John 1:1 (Jesus was there in the beginning), John 5:18, (equal with His father), Jesus is the John 8:58, "I AM", Exodus 3:14, Revelation 1:8. John 20:28.

    There are spiritual forces at work trying to deceive and twist and misinterpret. Beware of false teachers. The Bible already says what it means. Do we choose to believe and trust?
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Donna. I believe that God is One and will always BE Who He is. In Revelation chapter 22, we read of the New Jerusalem, where God & the Lamb are both seen in several verses. Before Jesus' incarnation (i.e. the Word of God sent to Earth to become man), He was God's Word ( John 1:1) just as the Spirit of God was within the Godhead. God sent out both His Word & His Spirit to instigate & fulfil His Plan for mankind. The fact that the Word became flesh ( John 1:1-14), means that as Jesus was raised from the dead & ascended into Heaven as a Man, He will always remain as that part of God Who reigns in Heaven as the Lamb Who was slain.

    We could (maybe foolishly) ask the question, 'why doesn't God then 're-constitute' Jesus to shed His glorified flesh & return Him back to being the Word within the Godhead?' Jesus is still God's Word ( Revelation 19:11-16), but now in flesh, & will probably evermore be what the Father planned: His eternal Witness of God sacrificing Himself, but now reigning as "King of kings and Lord of lords" ( Revelation 19:16): as Israel's promised Supreme Messiah-King, the Root & Offspring of David ( Revelation 22:16), & also of those Gentiles who have been saved because of faith in the Messiah of God. Therefore, in these final chapters of Revelation, we see both God, His Son (Word made flesh), & the Holy Spirit ( Revelation 4:5, 'the seven-fold Spirit of God' and Revelation 22:17) - neither ceasing to be within the Godhead, yet remaining both a physical & spiritual Presence of God as God has determined of Himself.
  • Faith works - In Reply on Revelation 19 - 3 years ago
    Jude verse 20 ,21 ,24

    Another favourite verse

    Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling , and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy !

    Verse 25 praise God !
  • Faith works on Revelation 19 - 3 years ago
    Revelation chapter 19

    Read the whole chapter and see how Jesus totally defeats evil and the devil ends up bound a 1000 yrs ! Nothing evil can throw at Jesus church can stick .

    She is presented with out spot and ready , verse 7 and 8 .

    Verse 9 will you be there ?

    Praise God !
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Luke 1 - 3 years ago
    Here are several scriptures I hope answer your questions

    * Psalms 139,

    Genesis 3:8, Genesis 4:16, Jonah 1:3, 2 Corinthians 3:17, Psalms 95:2, Psalms 16:11,

    Deuteronomy 11:10-13, Leviticus 22:3, Psalms 114:7, Psalms 68:8, Psalms 97:5, Romans 8:16, 1 Kings 9:3, 2 Chronicles 2:16-19, Job 10:4, Psalms 11:4, Psalms 34:15, Psalms 145:14-16, Proverbs 5:21, Proverbs 15:3, Hebrews 4:11-14, 1 Peter 3:12, Ecclesiasticus 15:19, Ecclesiasticus 17:15,19, Ecclesiasticus 34:16, Ecclesiasticus 39:19,

    Hebrews 9:24,

    Jude 1:24,

    Revelation 19:6,
  • Amarin - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Nehemiah 10:31 shows that an ancient interpretation of the Sabbath means you should not be buying or selling.

    Nehemiah 10:31: And if the people of the land bring ware or any victuals on the sabbath day to sell, that we would not buy it of them on the sabbath, or on the holy day: and that we would leave the seventh year, and the exaction of every debt.

    Jesus will return as a thief in the night.

    1 Thessalonians 5:2: For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

    When Jesus returns, He will judge. It makes sense that He will judge base on the Statutes, Laws, and Commandments of God.

    Revelation 19:11: And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

    This suggests that if you are breaking the Holy Sabbath Laws, you will be judged by Jesus.

    Perhaps you should determine what the Sabbath is based on The Word of God and not on your personal feelings. After you do that look at the "old" World before colonization, Africa and the Middle East, and find out what day they considered to be the Sabbath Day. Then make your own decision.
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} "caught Up" on 1 Thessalonians 4:17 - 3 years ago
    Part II God's Great GRACE Departure

    B) Distinctions Between GREAT GRACE Departure and Second Coming

    The Second Coming, According to Prophecy

    1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORD Of lords, Is Coming From Heaven! Matthew 24:29 Revelation 19:11,16

    2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! Revelation 19:12-15

    3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!), His armies on white horses! Revelation 19:12-15

    (4) CHRIST Is Coming To earth With ONE army, * "All Of His holy angels,"

    In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations

    Matthew 25:31 Revelation 19:11,15

    (5) With Another trumpet (AFTER "the 7th angel trumpet in heaven), on

    the earth, Angels Are SENT, By The KING, TO: "gather the elect"...

    Matthew 24:31 Mark 13:27

    6) ...for the "judgment of the Earthly Nations" By The Son of man, The King! Matthew 25:31-36 Matthew 25:36-41 Matthew 25:41-46

    7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels! Matthew 25:34-38 Matthew 25:38-41

    Matthew 25:41-46

    Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15 From Things That DIFFER

    The Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly Mystery!

    to be continued in Part III God's Great GRACE Departure
  • Earl Bowman - In Reply on Psalms 144 - 3 years ago
    Sunny, David penned the Psalms, but they were written by the Spirit Of the Lord (Christ).

    2 Samuel 23:1 Now these be the last words of David .....

    2 Samuel 23:2 The Spirit of the Lord spake by me, an his words were in my tongue.

    Revelation 19:10 .....I (Christ) am thy fellow servant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is THE SPIRIT OF PROPHECY.

    It will change the whole way you view God's word when you understand the WORDS in Psalms is CHRIST speaking, not David.

    The Lord (Father) is my (Christ) shepherd, I (Christ) shall not want, etc., etc.

    Christ is a MAN and dependant in every WAY ON THE FATHER, as we are dependant every way on CHRIST.

    Christ said I of my self I can DO NOTHING, the Father does all thing FOR (or through me).

    Christ is THE BODY that HOLDS (is filled with the FULLNESS OF HIS FATHER).

    We can of our selves DO NOTHING, Christ does all thing FOR (or through us).

    We are the BODY that HOLDS (is filled with the FULLNESS OF CHRIST).

    A body is just a vessel, that HOLDS: GOD.

    Christ HOLDS the FATHER in the (his) Body, we Hold, CHRIST in our body, therefore we are ONE, the temple, were God and the Son dwell WITH US.

    Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE body (MAN), and ONE Spirit (GOD).

    Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of ALL (the body(s), who is above ALL (the body(s), and through ALL (the body(S), and in you ALL (the body(s).

    The Father can not be seen, so he made a body that HOLDS SPIRIT that can be seen.

    Man HAS to be GIVEN this KNOWLEDGE, grace is a GIFT (given) of God.
  • Earl Bowman - 3 years ago
    WHO Is SATAN

    Genesis 3:1 Now the SERPENT (Satan) was more subtil than any BEAST of the Field which the Lord God Had made...

    God made ALL THE BEAST of the field out of DUST, The BEAST are all made FLESH.

    1 Corinthians 15:39 Not all flesh is the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of man, another of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds.

    Which of these creations of FLESH is the MOST SUBTIL, Of course it's MAN.

    Job 26:13 By his Spirit he hath garnished the heavens; His (Spirits) hand hath formed he crooked (liar and murderer, from the beginning) serpent (subtil beast).

    1 John 2:16 ..The lust of the FLESH, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life..

    Which of these creations of FLESH have the capabilities to have the pride of life, lust of the FLESH, and the lust of the eyes, of course it's MAN.

    James 2:19 thou (terrestrial FLESH) believest there is one one God, thou doest well, the devils (Satan, terrestrial FLESH) also BELIEVE, and tremble.

    Revelation 13 :8 Here is wisdom let him that hath UNDERSTANDING count the number of the BEAST (FLESH): for his number is the number of a MAN..

    Who is the ONLY beast of the field that is subtil, can lust, can BELIEVE and can buy and sell. Why of course, it's MAN, THE PRINCE(S) OF THIS WORLD.

    You BELIEVE, long before you are BORN AGAIN. Terrestrial FLESH, the carnal mind, has to BE DESTROYED (it's the process of light replacing darkness).

    1 Corinthians 5:5 To deliver such a one (terrestrial flesh) to Satan (terrestrial flesh) for the DESTRUCTION of the Flesh, that the Spirit might be SAVED in the day of the Lord.

    Isaiah 9:20 ..they shall every man EAT THE FLESH OF HIS OWN RIGHT ARM.

    Zechariah 14:12 ..their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet..

    Revelation 19:18 That you may eat the flesh of kings, and he flesh of captains, and the flesh of might men..

    Romans 13:11 ..now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.

    WORK OUT YOU OWN SALVATION

    PHYSICIAN HEAL THYSELF
  • Chris - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hello Tony. Thank you for your further clarification; previously I wasn't clear as to how you were viewing these passages. If I may explain my understanding:

    a. Jeremiah 31:34 & Micah 7:18-20. I believe we see these passages differently. In both passages, I see a new Covenant God made & now brings in for Israel. This is not the New Covenant in Christ's Blood which avails for all men, but another Covenant that is different from the Mosaic ( Jeremiah 31:31,32) (& by inference, the Davidic) - a Covenant which will be unconditional (v32); it will include a change in their hearts, fellowship with God, knowledge of God, & forgiveness of sins (vv33-34). In Truth, all this avails for them through the Messiah of God, Whom they rejected & crucified; & so they go the same way as the Gentiles who reject God's Offer of Salvation. Yet, there will be a day in the Millennium, when they will finally acknowledge the One "Whom they pierced" & God will confirm this Covenant made to them & their sins will be forgiven. And also with Micah 7:11-20: God will fulfil His Promises to Israel, to Abraham, & to the fathers of old (v20). These verses also speak of that special time of forgiveness & blessing to the House of Israel.

    b. Revelation 20:10. This verse aligns with Revelation 19:19,20; that the beast & his false prophet were first cast into the Lake of Fire. And Revelation 20:10 shows that Satan also joins them there & their torment will be eternal. So, I don't understand, "Since the wicked are raised from their fiery grave, why do they need a second judgement?" Which 'raising' are you referring to? And which 'wicked'? But if you're referring to vv 11-15 (Great White Throne Judgement), the Books were opened & their names were not found therein - & those dead were raised to judgement, including the finality of death & hell, were all likewise consigned to that eternal flame.

    So I sense that our interpretation of these passages may differ, which I'm happy to pursue.
  • Ronald L Whittemore - In Reply on Revelation 20 - 3 years ago
    Shellon Hooten,

    Revelation is hard, for one, it is not in chronological order, and not all has been revealed to us. Pray and keep in mind there are answers we may never be given. At this time there have been 3.5 years of tribulation by Satan, the beast, the false prophet, and the great whore Babylon, and Babylon was just destroyed by the ten kings/countries of the beast. ( Revelation 17, 18).

    These same ten kings/kingdoms/countries will make war with Jesus, ( Revelation 17:14). They were rejoicing in heaven and "his wife hath made herself ready" and "Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb" ( Revelation 19:1-10).

    In ( Revelation 19:11-21) we see Jesus coming with his armies, ( Matthew 25:31) that were in heaven, and the call to the fowls to gather to the supper of the great God. ( Ezekiel 39: 17-20) There are more scriptures on the coming of Jesus, ( Matthew 24: 29-31) ( Mark 13:24-27) ( 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17), and more. The beast and false prophet are cast into the lake of fire and the remnant of the armies are destroyed by the sword proceeding out of the mouth of Jesus. The power of His word wiped them out.

    Then in Revelation 20, Satan is locked in the bottomless pit, to be there for one thousand years, and Jesus sets up His Kingdom and the camp of the saints. So scripture tells us when Jesus returns with all His holy angels/armies, He sends angels to gather His elect. Who are in this first resurrection? The description of them is in ( Revelation 20:4). Are they all that will be saved? Are they the most loyal elect that is given this honor? The key is the white throne judgment, is it only for the lost as taught? Why is the book of life opened ( Revelation 20:12)? Should we not consider ( Matthew 25:31-46) ( John 5:28-29) ( Acts 24:15). Do we overlook ( Revelation 20:15)?

    I know this does not answer your question, if it can be answered, but may it inspire study.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • SCRIPTURES ABOUT THE RAPTURE - In Reply on Mark 1 - 3 years ago
    2 Corinthians 5:10

    John 14:1-3

    Luke 10:20

    Mark 13: 32-37

    Revelation 3: 10

    Matthew 24: 1-51

    Philippians 3:20-21

    Romans 8: 18-19

    Acts 1: 7-11

    Daniel 12: 1-2

    1 Corinthians 15: 51-53

    1 Thessalonians 4: 1-18

    Revelation 12: 1-17

    Revelation 19: 1-21

    1 John 1: 3:3

    Titus 2:13

    Matthew 16:27

    Colossians 3:2-4

    Luke 21: 34-36

    James 4:8

    Ten Virgins story: Matthew 25

    John 3:16

    We must be born again at which time Jesus will give to you, The Holy Spirit.

    On this website, out on the Red Link Page; BECOME A CHRISTIAN (which means Christ Jesus Follower)

    Jesus is not escape insurance. He is the Son of God. He is the only one who can save us. So write that list of verses down on a sheet of paper and read in the Bible of them every day.

    FAITHFUL IS HE WHO MADE THESE PROMISES.

    [hey yall, don't send emails saying the word rapture is not in the Bible. I know that. It is called: CAUGHT UP or IN THE CLOUDS. Not everyone knows Greek or Hebrew. Thanks,

    Mishael
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    "...do not say that God will "rapture" the church out before the great tribulation, or anytime other than at the end." Ok, Precious friend, Dean, I won't; "Know the order, and realize your place according to the grand scheme." Yes, I won't say it, But, By "studying God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided," I'll let God "Say It":

    Part II

    (B) Distinctions Between GREAT GRACE Departure and Second Coming

    TheSecondComing, According to Prophecy:

    (1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORDOf lords, Is Coming From Heaven! ( Matthew 24:29; Revelation 19:16, 11)

    (2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! ( Revelation 19:12-15)

    (3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!), His armies on white horses! ( Revelation 19:12-15)

    (4) CHRIST Is Coming ALL THE WAY To the earth"WithAllOf His holy angels," In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations ( Matthew 25:31; Revelation 19:11, 15)

    (5a) Angels "gather the tares First, And they are taken Out of the kingdom" to be cast into the furnace of fire! ( Matthew 24:30, 13:30, 40-43)

    (5b) Angels "gather the elect"... ( Matthew 24:31; Mark 13:27)

    (6)...for the "judgment of the Earthly Nations" By The Son of man, The King! ( Matthew 25:31-46)

    (7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels! ( Matthew 25:34-46)

    Rightly Divided ( 2 Timothy 2:15) From Things That DIFFER:

    The Great GRACE Departure, According to TheHeavenlyMystery!:

    to be continued in Part III
  • GRACE_ambassador {ChrisE} - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Precious brother Chris, thanks so much for your kind words of encouragement! I did have your verse in my list of over 150 Scriptures for The LORD JESUS CHRIST As Being The Almighty God! It was #:

    113. JESUS CHRIST is Called "My God" ( John 20:28). Since there is "no other God" ( Isaiah 45:5) ( Isaiah 45:21-22), This Plainly And Clearly Declares, According To The Word Of Truth, That JESUS CHRIST is That God.

    Your Excellent statement: "We can note how Jesus never rebuked Thomas for exclaiming, "My Lord and my God," can Certainly be connected With Confirming Scriptures, about "rebuking worship," {# 9 on my Previous list...}:

    "And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy." ( Revelation 19:10)

    "And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. ( Revelation 22:8-9)

    May you and all who "believe God's Word Of Truth," Please Be Richly Encouraged and Edified, waiting for our Great God And Saviour, JESUS CHRIST! ( Titus 2:13)

    brother Chris Endrizzi
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Hi Trudy.

    As Brother Jesse said I believe a verse to consider is Revelation 19:8.

    Garments is often used as an idiom for our righteousness. In Revelation the Lord clothes us with Revelation 3:4-5. Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy.

    He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

    Revelation 3:18. I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.

    The Lord clothes us with his righteousness.

    Our righteousness is as filthy rags

    Isaiah 64:6. But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

    Our effort to cleanse our self apart from Chist is as filthy rags.

    God bless.
  • Jesse - In Reply - 3 years ago
    Trudy,

    It might be possible that they were referring to Revelation 19:8 that says we, as His bride, will be clothed in white, fine linen. But without knowing the context of their speech, it would be hard to know why they said that?


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