Is Revelation 6:2 referring to the Second Coming of Christ?
In Revelation 19:11-15, we are given the vision of the second coming of Christ. The Key Verses are Psalm 45:3-4, Psalm 96:13, and Isaiah 11:4.
In Revelation Chapter 19, we see that when Christ returns at His Second Coming, He will be riding a white horse. Chapter 19 also tells us that when Christ comes at His second coming, He will be wearing MANY CROWNS.
If we go back to Revelation 6:2, we also see a white horse. Some see "white horse", and they connect this with the white horse in Revelation Chapter 19 and believe this is Jesus riding this horse in both places, Chapters 6 and 19. But is the rider the same in both places?
In Chapter 19, I do believe that the rider on the white horse is Jesus. But in Chapter 6, the rider is not referring to Jesus. It is the representation of the antichrist, the false messiah who will come.
The only thing the same in both places is the white horse and this can mislead us into thinking this is Jesus because we know He will return on a white horse. But in Chapter 6, it is not Jesus. I say this because of the differences I see between Chapters 6 and 19. I will share these differences in a second post as I am unable to fit this into a single post.
Here are the differences I see that cause me to come to this conclusion:
In Chapter 6, this one who is sitting on a white horse has a bow (TOXON). In Revelation Chapter 19, Christ has a sword (RHOMPHAIA), not a bow. In Chapter 6, it says a crown (Singular) was given to this one. And the word for crown in Chapter 6 is STEPHANOS. That's the wreath that is given to the victors at the coliseum games. This is a STEPHANOS. It is not the crown Christ will be wearing. Jesus will not be wearing a wreath. He will be wearing a royal crown, a DIADEM.
In Revelation Chapter 19, it says that when Christ comes at His second coming, He will be wearing MANY CROWNS, and the word for crown is DIADEM, the royal crown. It is not a STEPHANOS, the wreath that the false messiah will be wearing.
In Chapter 6, it says this one will come out conquering and to conquer. And that's the antichrist taking over the one world system. Also, another point to make, it is the Lamb that's opening the seal. He's not coming back yet, not until Revelation Chapter 19.
So, this one riding on a white horse in Revelation 6:2 with a bow in his hand, he was given a crown, a STEPHANOS which is a wreath, not a DIADEM, the royal crown that Christ will be wearing. And he went out to conquer. This is the antichrist. This is the false messiah that Jesus said would come first.
Hopefully this might be helpful to some. I was one who used to believe that the rider on the white horse in Revelation 6:2 was Jesus. But after comparing the differences using the original text, I no longer see these two places referring to the Second Coming of Christ, but one referring to the false Messiah ( Revelation 6:2), and the other ( Revelation 19:11-15) referring to our Savior Jesus Christ coming wearing a royal crown and with a sword. Not a wreath, not a bow!
The lynchpin; as it were of Bible Prophecy is how close we are to the Daniel 9:27 covenant being fulfilled. In short; without a specific timeframe of 1 prophetic week (7 years) the current agreement with Gaza involving many participants isn't the final one initiating the 1st horse of Revelation 6:1 YET.
Zepheniah 2:4-7 states:
4 For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up.
5 Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast, the nation of the Cherethites! the word of the Lord is against you; O Canaan, the land of the Philistines, I will even destroy thee, that there shall be no inhabitant.
6 And the sea coast shall be dwellings and cottages for shepherds, and folds for flocks.
7 And the coast shall be for the remnant of the house of Judah; they shall feed thereupon: in the houses of Ashkelon shall they lie down in the evening: for the Lord their God shall visit them, and turn away their captivity.
We see here the utter destruction of this area; likely in the same time frame as the Psalm 83 war. We see Israel more or less dwelling there afterwards as verse 7 seems to indicate.
For me; the Ezekiel 38 war MAY make more sense to occur BEFORE the Tribulation even starts likely initiating the Daniel 9:27 covenant OR right after the Rapture and likewise triggering the first seal. In any case the issue here is the land of unwalled villages mentioned and it will take time; perhaps too much time for all that and the Temple construction to occur after the Rapture. To have some sense of security the immediate neighbors of hostility need to be dealt with desicively; although it seems it has begun with Iran and its proxies it seems armed attempts at rebellion are inevitable with the current setup which the international community along with our current leadership will probably once and for all annihalate. That's the way I see it anyway.
Perhaps this site has more people than I realized who believe this.
2 Thessalonians 2 states 2 Thessalonians
1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
The wording here is confusing; admittedly but the Day of Christ may be defined when He has begun His rule and reign on earth; and that has to begin with the process of judgments; the first of which is the man of sin in Revelation 6:1-2 being revealed; which the restrainer in verse 6 (that as I see it being the Spirit as it works in the churches today) is removed. That can be seen in the verses describing what MUST occur immediately after the description of the churches in Revelation 4:1 as symbolized by John the Apostle who likely literally saw into the future.
The idea of the bridegroom and bride going into the chamber may be seen as hinted in other verses in scripture such as Psalm 27:5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock.
Luke 18:8 states I tell you that he will avenge them speedily. Nevertheless when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth? This shows in the context of the surrounding passages the Lord answering prayers for justice and perhaps has a tie in to the martyrs prayers for vengeance in Revelation where He says to wait a little season until the rest of the martyrs (fellowservants) are likewise killed (see Revelation 6:11).
Our day of redemption will arrive; at last. This earth is not our home. I see here tonight especially many with ongoing struggles.
Those who know the Lord will see if they indeed are called home at the Rapture things from an eternal perspective. The earth is seething with demons around every corner; although men's wickedness allows them to be empowered. Anyone truly saved and who possesses the Spirit has the authority to hold these forces at bay; although sadly many don't bother exercising (or should I say exorcizing) these God given rights.
Dead churches are doing more harm than good; because they encourage people to be comfortable in not proclaiming the Gospel and challenging individuals to grow in their walk; hence people are spiritually sick in various stages of dying. These were words my ex wife actually used before she went full force into adultery. When we get the first signs of realization that the enemy is getting a stronghold especially in marriages we need to be on the offensive in prayer mode. I wasn't even thinking this when I started but that is something a few tonight I believe need to hear. There are women present who appear to have a proper perspective on proper behavior in terms of submission but need to be offensively praying against the tactics of the enemy attempting to control them and their partner. We should encourage prayer with our husbands or wives especially if they claim authority in the church. In secret prayer women or men can wield tremendous power; and I pray that for those in need.
There is three major viewpoints on the Millennium, as discussed in Christian eschatology,
Premillennialism,
Amillennialism, and
Postmillennialism.
These views differ primarily in their interpretation of the 1,000-year reign of Christ mentioned in Revelation 20
This is to compare how these three groups interpret the Bible concerning the end time scenario after the tribulation period on into the Millennium.
We all fall in one of these groups.
Thanks for giving yours, I will give the sequence in the way I interpret it after I get some more responses.
This is not to debate but to show the different ways this section of scripture is interpreted between the three groups.
So Your belief is there is the wrath of God after the sixth seal, in Revelation 6:12-17. This is when Jesus returns to earth, and when Jesus returns, it will be as in Mathew 24:29-31. We will then meet Him in the air, and we all come down together to populate the Millenium
The ones cast into the lake of fire are those living or killed who worshiped the beast and received his mark.
That leaves those in Christ who are in the first resurrection who returns with Christ and nations of people who neither worshiped the beast nor received his mark, nor believed in Jesus. This may have been after the fullness of the Gentiles, and they may have missed the opportunity.
Then Satan is loosed to deceive the nations to gather them together to battle and then comes the final Judgment of the rest of the dead.
1 "Can you tell me how you interpret the events after the tribulation period, on into the Millennium, when Satan is chained and when he is loosed?"
I will do my best to show my understanding of your questions. My study is simple, and I rely on the Bible for interpretation. I use Word Search, a concordance, and my Bible provides other verses that cross-reference a word or phrase throughout Scripture.
The book of Revelation is not in chronological order. We see in Revelation 1:7, that when He comes in the clouds, every eye will see Him. Revelation 6:12-17 shows a vision given to John after the Sixth Seal, revealing the signs of Jesus' coming. Cross-references include Joel 2:10-11, 30-31, Matthew 24, and others.
In Revelation 11:15-19, the seventh trumpet, or the last trumpet, signals the coming of Jesus, ending the tribulation and beginning God's wrath. Revelation 14 combines visions that are not in order; we see Jesus standing on Mount Zion with the 144000, which would occur after Revelation 19:11-16. We know this because, when He returns, His feet will land on the Mount of Olives, as described in Zechariah 14:4.
Revelation 14:6-7 describes the angel preaching the everlasting gospel, which must occur near the end of the tribulation. The announcement of Babylon's fall is seen in chapters 17 and 18. Revelation 14:9-11 states the fate of those who worship the beast, take its mark, and follow the beast and the false prophet. This is carried out in Revelation 19:20-21.
Revelation 14:12-13 declares, "Blessed are those who die in the Lord from henceforth," even as the tribulation continues. My understanding of Revelation 14:14-16, which covers the harvest and the first resurrection, is supported by passages like Revelation 19:11-16, Revelation 20:4-6, and Matthew 24:29-31. Revelation 14:17-20 describes the battle of Armageddon, with related references in Revelation 19:17-21, Ezekiel 39:17-21, and Luke 17:37.
Revelation 6:12-17. Even as v17 states, "For the great day of his wrath is come". These verses seem to show the fullness and culmination of God's Wrath. But what if verses 1 to 11 are also a real part of God's Wrath, where war, famine, death, & martyrdom occur in greater measure than previously seen on Earth. I realize that some understand these verses depicting the state of the world & sufferings over the centuries as the various seals are opened, but could the opening of these Seal Judgements occur in fast order, demonstrating that something supernatural (i.e. out of the ordinary) is now occurring, which culminates in the shaking of the heavens? Anyway, will leave it that for now and thanks again for your input which was indeed very thought-provoking. Blessings.
What is the Rapture? It is a doctrine that began in the 1800s and is widely accepted today. The belief in it is so strong that many see it as a promise, a guarantee, that the Church will be taken to heaven and escape the great tribulation, which is often confused with the wrath of God. But is it true or just a deception? Isn't the rapture a resurrection? We see there are only two resurrections, in Revelation 20:6 and Revelation 20:12-13, separated by a thousand years.
Nowhere is the Church shown in heaven; Revelation 19:7-9 is not about the Church. It describes the bride of Christ adorned with the righteousness of the saints. The marriage and the marriage supper will not occur until Revelation 21:1-2, which takes place after the new heaven and new earth. The angel shows John the bride, the Lamb's wife, who is not the Church, as stated in Revelation 21:9-11.
We must distinguish between the great tribulation and the wrath of God; they are not the same. Tribulation refers to the suffering and persecution faced by believers. We see in Revelation 12:12, Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, for the devil has come down to you, having great wrath. This is when he gives power to the beast, and the great tribulation begins. The short time Satan believed he had was 3.5 years, not seven. Revelation 13:5 mentions 42 months, which is 1260 days, or 3.5 years. The prophecy in Daniel 9 is all about the Messiah, Jesus, and the time Israel has.
We do not see the wrath of God and the Lamb until after the sixth seal, in Revelation 6:12-17. This is when Jesus returns to earth, the earth is round, and when Jesus returns, it will be as in Mathew 24:29-31. We will then meet Him in the air, and we all come down together.
a) Revelation 3:10 (to the Philadelphian Church). This refers to the final seven year tribulation period in which the antichrist will be allowed to deceive the world ( 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12). Believers can have hope that should this final period come to pass in their lifetimes, they will be kept from having to face God's wrath during the tribulation period; and this Great Tribulation as Jesus spoke about (in Matthew 24:21-31) is the Day of God's Wrath, from which the Church is to be kept from. Even in Zephaniah 2:3, a little glimpse is given of those who will be "hid in the day of the LORD's ANGER".
b) 1 Thessalonians 5:9 and 1 Thessalonians 1:10: believers are not appointed to bear God's Wrath but to receive His salvation from it. While it is true that God's wrath is most fully poured out in the sentencing of unbelievers to hell, Revelation 6:15-17 makes it clear that God's wrath is also being poured out upon the earth during the tribulation period (for that is what it means) and believers will not be a part of that. However, those who come to faith during the tribulation will have to suffer the effects of God's wrath, not having received the promise of being kept from the hour of trial. But those days will be cut short for His Elect's sake ( Matthew 24:22).
c) Revelation 19:7-9. The Church is already in Heaven with the Lord, clothed & prepared for the marriage of the Lamb. It is following this that Jesus is seen with the armies of heaven coming to earth to lie waste the armies of the earth and to cast the beast and false prophet into the Lake of Fire ( Revelation 19:11-21). Thus, the church must have already been raptured and taken to heaven before Jesus comes the second time. To Page 3.
1. Revelation 3:10 : "Because you have kept My command to persevere, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is about to come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth." Here, "those who dwell on the earth" are contrasted with the faithful believers who are promised protection from the coming trials.
2. Revelation 6:10 : "And they cried out in a loud voice, 'How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You avenge our blood and judge those who dwell on the earth?'" This verse highlights the cry of the martyrs for justice against those who have persecuted them, indicating that "those who dwell on the earth" are often seen as persecutors of the faithful.
3. Revelation 8:13 : "Then I looked and heard an eagle flying in midair, calling out in a loud voice: 'Woe, woe, woe to those who dwell on the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the remaining three angels!'" The woes pronounced upon "those who dwell on the earth" suggest impending judgment and calamity.
4. Revelation 11:10 : "And those who dwell on the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate and send each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented them." This passage describes the reaction of "those who dwell on the earth" to the death of God's prophets, indicating their opposition to God's messengers.
5. Revelation 13:8 : "And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast-all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life belonging to the Lamb who was slain." This verse underscores the allegiance of "those who dwell on the earth" to the beast, contrasting them with those whose names are in the book of life.
Thanks to Bible hub I found all 5 of these references to those who dwell on the earth; again a strong indication of the Rapture but also indicative of the difference between those written in the Book of Life and those who are not. I'll delve into this more in the nest post.
In continuing with the theme of the recent postings; I will admit that it is hard to come to a grip with my own life but someone who is truly His realizes the mess they are and utter dependance on the Spirit. It seems what is harder is trying to explain this to others who often think I am disparaging my own character in being too hard for myself rather than viewing my statements as a cathartic thing in discussing such issues with friends. Much like a human relationship the Lord wants us to be real and communicate things with Him as hiding anything of course is futile.
Pleading with God even frustrated with Him can still be avoided as being a sin because Jesus Himself had to petition to God in regard to His suffering knowing what it would do to His righteous soul. How long o Lord was expressed by David himself as well as the saints under the altar in Revelation 6:10. The difference between righteous pleading and unbelief is the key here; those of faith even as Job may fling some wild accusations against God (he didn't know Satan was to blame for much of his misery) but he still didn't disparage God's character. It was wrong that he blamed God even out of ignorance and not knowing God's full majesty the Lord had to speak twice to him where his response was only one sentence each time at the end repenting in dust and ashes. This fits into my earlier theme. In Job no human could understand the depth of Job's suffering; or respect the integrity of his conduct all his life. We must remember that he was praised in Job 1:1 as to his moral character. There was much truth in his friends (if we can call them that) statements; but no love. The Lord broke Job even more but look at the end result. God understands our frame ( Psalm 103:14) and will eventually deliver our bodies and souls.
The concept of total depravity; of course is an attempt to find a definition that fits best the admittedly appalling condition of the human heart as seen in Jeremiah 17:9. Whether we banter about decrying our hopeless condition because of a doctrinal assent of the situation or it is because the love of God constrains us ( 2 Corinthians 5:14) may sound the same on the outside; but it makes all the difference in reaching lost souls in the inside. One only needs to grasp Isaiah 6:5 and other verses on those prophets that saw God's presence and glory to see that this is a default reaction for all men to have. The world at large; of course scanters off in fear; or as Revelation 6:15-17.
Many today are shielded and have a temporary reprieve; as it were who hang around Christians; whether professing faith or not.
The going may be good for now; not to mention having people around who can help out in a pinch; but once the Bride of Christ is raptured; no such protection will continue to exist.
Another concept I'd like to hammer home is that in regard to Predestination (and I have said this before) it is not so much what we do but the reasons for doing it. The world no doubt is enamored with those who give a lot to the poor; and who are influential and everyone seems to live by their own standards but conforms to what is acceptable which reminds us of the Pharisees in Luke 16:15. The Lord did say they would praise God for our good works ( Matthew 5:16). Since He also mentions in the beatitudes blessing those who curse us in the same chapter in verse 44 as well as in Luke's rendition we certainly don't expect praise for the reason we do things but for external actions by some; although in theory those in the body of Christ should recognize such attributes but those who are Godly usually aren't the prominent ones in the Church even genuine works. There are many who make a sideshow for greedy gain ( 1 Tim. 6:10)
Regarding the return of Jesus, I only see in Scripture that He returns once. As seen in 1 Matthew 24:29-31, Mark 13:24-27, Luke 21:25-28, John 14:3, Acts 1:11, 1 Corinthians 15:51-55, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4, Hebrews 9:28, Revelation 1:7, Revelation 6:12-17, Revelation 19:11-21, through Revelation 20:1-6, is the same event when Jesus returns, and it occurs after the tribulation of the beast. My understanding is that there is only one Day of the Lord, and that is when Jesus returns.
Regarding the Messiah, I have never asked a Jew about their understanding of it. What I have previously read about Jewish faith is that one day a charismatic Jewish leader, the anointed of God, a man with the characteristics of God, a direct descendant of the Davidic line, will gather Jews from around the world, and bring them back to the Land of Israel and restore the kingdom ridding them of all oppressors.
That was what they were looking for during the time Jesus was here during His 3.5-year ministry, a human conqueror. The disciples were looking for Him to set up the kingdom; they even asked Him after He was resurrected, Acts 1:6-7. They were looking for what we see will happen in the millennium when Jesus returns to earth.
It was mainly the leaders of Jerusalem who did not see or did not hear, which caused blindness in part to happen to Israel, who rejected Jesus; many accepted Jesus as the Messiah while He was here. The leaders of Jerusalem played a prominent role in turning the crowds against Jesus, and it was the nation of Israel as a whole that rejected Him. And today, most Jews do not believe the Messiah has come.
I know we may not agree, but I hope I answered your question.
I am not one to put my faith in politics and am not going to attest to any clear evidence our Commander in Chief is a Christian.
I'll let others argue that point; nonetheless I am grateful that today as with other recent meetings he has consulted on the phone with Mr. Putin. There is apparently some sane conversation; albeit Russia is intransigent on achieving its goals which seem pretty evident to include almost complete annihilation of the country in question where they have been at war since 2022. There have been other discussions which may bring temporary peace; at least to the African nations he has brokered peace with Rwanda and Congo last week. In terms of the expanded Abraham Accords we certainly can't avoid implications that either lead toward or will ultimately broker the covenant confirmed with many in Daniel 9:27; since the 2 state solution obsession lives on after decades of failed efforts. Nonetheless; I am grateful for every day we don't have judgment on this country; but mark my words the time is coming. War; famine and pestilence in the seal judgments are coming in their fullness soon; and perhaps some other things will have partial fulfillment beforehand.
I am sorry to say that there has been things in my life regarding sin that have dragged me into a feeling of hopelessness and doom. I can probably say that all of us here need to walk consistently in the Spirit to overcome; especially today. The doom that is coming SHOULD make us motivated to warn others to flee the wrath to come; whether it be the Tribulation or hell (a sort of simultaneous thing if we read ( Revelation 6:8). I believe Satan wants us to be afraid that we will be left behind. Truly the Lord warns us in Luke 21:36 to be praying we are worthy to escape all these things to come to pass; and that same concept is shown by the overcomers in the Philadelphia church in Revelation 3:10. Let us submit our lives fully to the Spirit
Revelation 19:11 - And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He does judge and make war. In other words, the emphasis is that everything the Lord does is in righteousness. He makes war, and He judges, and it's all righteous.
Please notice, because this is what I alluded to back in Chapter 6 Verses 1 and 2 at the breaking of the first seal, because remember there was a white horse that came out, and the one sitting upon it had a bow in his hand. And he went out to conquer those upon the earth.
And for many years, scholars believed that was a picture of the second coming of Christ. But I showed you how it lines up in Mark Chapter 13. The first four phases that Jesus gave was the revelation of the false messiahs.
The red horse was the wars and rumors of wars. The black horse was the famine. And the pale green horse was death, either by the beasts of the land, or people, or earthquakes, or various events.
That person back in Revelation 6:1-2, he came on a white horse, but he had a bow. He didn't have a sword. His crown was a STEPHANOS, a wreath, where the Lord here, He's going to have DIADEMS, not one, but many.
So, the white horses match, but everything else is different. And that's why Revelation 6:1-2 is not the revelation of Christ at His second coming. This here is the second coming. That was the representation of the false messiah.
Here Christ comes on a white horse. And He was called faithful and true. And in righteousness He does judge and make war.
Revelation 6:6 - And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
A measure of wheat for a penny, which is a quart measure, a dry measure of wheat for a DENARIUS, one day's wage. And three measures of barley. Barley was the food of the poor. Barley was the food for the animals. And people would be able to afford three measures of barley instead of one measure of wheat for a DENARIUS.
And see you hurt not the oil and the wine. And this would be the consumption of those who are rich. The antichrist will have control over the world's food supplies, under the breaking of the third seal.
Revelation 6:8 - And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
And I looked, and behold a pale horse. This Greek word for pale, CHLOROS, is where we get our word chlorine from, pale horse. And the name of him that sat upon him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth. So of the earth's population will die at the breaking of the fourth seal.
Revelation 6:10 - And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Just as a side note, and I think I've shared this before, but that little phrase "them that dwell upon the earth," it's actually a title. It's called the earth dwellers. All the people who are not Christians are called earth dwellers. As believers, we are citizens of heaven. And then there are the dwellers upon the earth. So, this crowd is saying "How long before you avenge the spilling of our blood?"
Revelation 6:2 - And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
For many years this was interpreted that this was the second coming of Jesus Christ, a white horse coming, the one who's sitting on it is given a crown, and he goes out to conquer, so it was thought to be Jesus Christ.
But this is not the second coming of Christ, but rather the representation of the antichrist, the false messiah who will come.
And here's the reasons why:
It says he comes on a white horse. It's the same as Jesus in Revelation Chapter 19. It's a white horse. But, this one who is sitting on a white horse has a bow. In Revelation Chapter 19, Christ has a sword.
A crown was also given to this one. And the word for crown in this verse is STEPHANOS. That's the wreath that is given to the victors at the coliseum games. This is a STEPHANOS. In Revelation Chapter 19, it says that when Christ comes at His second coming, He will be wearing many crowns, and the word for crown is in Chapter 19 is DIADEM, the royal crown.
And this one will come out conquering and to conquer. And that's the antichrist taking over the one world system.
Also, another point to make, it is the Lamb that's opening the seal. He's not coming back yet, not until we get into Revelation Chapter 19.
So, this one riding on a white horse with a bow in his hand, he was given a crown, a STEPHANOS, not a DIADEM. And he went out to conquer. This is the antichrist. This is the false messiah that Jesus said first would come.
Revelation 6:6 - And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
A measure of wheat for a penny, which is a quart measure, a dry measure of wheat for a DENARIUS, one day's wage. And three measures of barley. Barley was the food of the poor. Barley was the food for the animals. And people would be able to afford three measures of barley instead of one measure of wheat for a DENARIUS.
And see you hurt not the oil and the wine. And this would be the consumption of those who are rich. The antichrist will have control over the world's food supplies, under the breaking of the third seal.
Revelation 6:8 - And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
And I looked, and behold a pale horse. This Greek word for pale, CHLOROS, is where we get our word chlorine from, pale horse. And the name of him that sat upon him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth. So of the earth's population will die at the breaking of the fourth seal.
Revelation 6:10 - And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Just as a side note, and I think I've shared this before, but that little phrase "them that dwell upon the earth," it's actually a title. It's called the earth dwellers. All the people who are not Christians are called earth dwellers. As believers, we are citizens of heaven. And then there are the dwellers upon the earth. So, this crowd is saying "How long before you avenge the spilling of our blood?"
Revelation 6:2 - And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
For many years this was interpreted that this was the second coming of Jesus Christ, a white horse coming, the one who's sitting on it is given a crown, and he goes out to conquer, so it was thought to be Jesus Christ.
But this is not the second coming of Christ, but rather the representation of the antichrist, the false messiah who will come.
And here's the reasons why:
It says he comes on a white horse. It's the same as Jesus in Revelation Chapter 19. It's a white horse. But, this one who is sitting on a white horse has a bow. In Revelation Chapter 19, Christ has a sword.
A crown was also given to this one. And the word for crown in this verse is STEPHANOS. That's the wreath that is given to the victors at the coliseum games. This is a STEPHANOS. In Revelation Chapter 19, it says that when Christ comes at His second coming, He will be wearing many crowns, and the word for crown is in Chapter 19 is DIADEM, the royal crown.
And this one will come out conquering and to conquer. And that's the antichrist taking over the one world system.
Also, another point to make, it is the Lamb that's opening the seal. He's not coming back yet, not until we get into Revelation Chapter 19.
So, this one riding on a white horse with a bow in his hand, he was given a crown, a STEPHANOS, not a DIADEM. And he went out to conquer. This is the antichrist. This is the false messiah that Jesus said first would come.
"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived ( 2 Timothy 3:13).
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. ( Matthew 24:11).
As we get closer to the time of the end; and the approach of the Antichrist's appearance; more and more false prophecies will seem to be fulfilled. It is only expected that if a man deceives the whole world as Revelation 13:8 says And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Surely a false Messiah will appear to mirror many aspects of the true one; and reading Revelation shows how miraculous signs from heaven and most importantly an apparent restoration from death ( Revelation 13:3) after the deadly wound mentioned in Zechariah 11:17. The events of the first seal in Revelation 6:1 and also mentioned in the Daniel 9:27 passage and other verses from that book in particular show how he arises. It only takes a little homework to see that Islam teaches of an eventual 12th Imam who will arise and bring forth a time of peace; which echoes New Age; the Maitreya and other manifestations of a utopia believed to arrive after we have "evolved" to the next level.
For this study; I just pass through the final manifestation of evil on the earth in this age and will now focus on the false prophets of today as well as in the past to see characteristics. The first thing I would say is that a false prophet usually has false "profits". Titus 1:10-11 states For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain. There are some who clearly are fleecing the flock for exorbitant living that are in megachurches; but other times cults will declare a vow of poverty but bilk funds.
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Well; TWICE I pushed the wrong button in regard to about a half dozen OTHER verses related to this subject. I'm afraid something untoward will come out of my mouth that I didn't hold back after things got wiped out the second time if I attempt a third effort! Okay enough of a pity party here...
I will go back to something I have postulated in meditating on this subject today; namely what is so wrong with a peace agreement in general? After all we are called to "pray for the peace of Jerusalem" in Psalm 122:6. Well; the answer comes partially in what was stated earlier today; as to the "two state solution" fiasco; that inevitably is involved when negotiations ensue with eh Palestinians in particular and their terrorist organizations associated with their cause. The maddening concept fails because neither side wants that; the Muslims want the destruction of the nation as the "little Satan" as Iran puts it from the "river to the sea" and of course Israel for good cause doesn't want to sign such a suicidal pact. But in the future the "covenant with death and hell" ( Isaiah 28:15) will be fulfilled as they will apparently trust the lies of someone guaranteeing protection; peace and prosperity. To fast forward to the end of the Tribulation Satan leads the world to attempt to destroy Christ at His return his last "hail Mary" as it were.
In Revelation 6:9-11, John is shown a vision of the souls of those who were slain for the word of God, the altar symbolizes the place of sacrifice and martyrdom, they are told to rest until their fellow servants are killed in the same way. This is a vision, as we see many in Revelation, it does not depict literal people's souls under the altar.
Another vision shown to Peter, James, and John on the mountain when Jesus was transfigured before them, Matthew 17:1-9. Jesus is the firstfruits of them that slept, and this is before Jesus was crucified. If Moses and Elijah/Elias were physically there, Jesus would not be the firstborn from the dead. Jesus told them not to tell this vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. The Greek word for vision is horama, the term horama refers to a supernatural vision or sight, often given by God to convey a message or revelation.
God's wrath is not capricious, driven by changing emotions and passions, as man is. Rather, it is a timeless stern, terrifying stance of His nature towards evil in all of its forms. His wrath is an inescapable reality toward a sin-cursed creation.
Every cemetery is a testament to God's sentence on sin in mankind. His anger and intolerance of sin is a real and it is deadly always. He is zealous for His holiness and therefore will not withstand sin in His presence. Even if He delays His justice, He will never cease to preserve the holiness and purity of His Presence.
God is not hasty in exercising His wrath. He is slow to anger ( Exodus 34:6-7). In His wisdom He determines how and when He will enact justice against sin. This slowness to exercise His anger and wrath should be a motivation towards repentance ( Joel 2:15) and never a license to engage in carefree sin and rebellion against Him. Exodus 34:7 says that He will not clear the guilty. (also see Numbers 14:18)
In the NT from the preaching of God's wrath by John the Baptist to the Wrath of the Lamb in Revelation the truth of God's just wrath pervades the books of the NT and speaks on this attribute in harmony with what the OT teaches about God's wrath. From Jesus and the apostles, salvation is presented as a rescue from God's wrath ( Mt. 3:7; Lk. 3:7; Mt. 5:22; 18:5; Mk. 9:48; Jn. 3:36; Acts 10:42). Peter says that they were commanded by Jesus to preach of God's judgment. ( Acts 2:14-36; 10:42)
Romans 4:15 explains how law-breaking invites God's wrath. Verse 9:23 describes how freely chosen sin fits sinners to be vessels of God's wrath, deserving of all He has willed this wrath to include: eternal punishment, torment, separation from God's Presence, and anguish. Revelation 6:16; 14:10 assign the execution of God's wrath, justice, and judgment to Jesus.
Remember,the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing.
1Th.5:3-When they say,Peace and safety;then sudden destruction cometh upon them...and they shall not escape.
Amos 5:8-9-8 Seek him that makes the seven stars(by allegory 7 angels of the Gentile Church-Re.1:20)and Orion(Jewish Church-the remnant-Is.1:9& Amos 5:2-3),and turns the shadow of death into the morning,and makes the day dark with night:that calls for the waters of the sea(Gentile peoples/believers),and pours them out upon the face of the earth:The Lord is His name:9-That strengthens the spoiled against the strong,so that the spoiled shall come against the fortress
Soph.1:12-18
12And it shall come to pass at that time(the current time),that I will search Jerusalem with candles,and punish the men that are settled on their lees:that say in their heart,The Lord will not do good,neither will he do evil.
13Therefore their goods shall become a booty,and their houses a desolation(Mat.24:15-25):they shall also build houses,but not inhabit them;and they shall plant vineyards,but not drink the wine thereof.
14The great Day of the Lord is near,it is near,and hastes greatly(i.e.the 7th and last Day,or 7th and last millennium)even the voice of the Day of the Lord:the mighty man shall cry there bitterly( Revelation 6:13-17)
15That Day is a Day of wrath( Revelation 11:18),a Day of trouble and distress,a Day of wasteness and desolation,a Day of darkness and gloominess,a Day of clouds and thick darkness
16A Day of Trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities,and against the high towers
17And I will bring distress upon men,that they shall walk like blind men,because they have sinned against the Lord:and their blood shall be poured out as dust,and their flesh as the dung
18Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the Day of the Lord's WRATH(the 7th);but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of His jealousy:for He shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land
GOD's Kingdom is among us,not as a ruler of the world though the Power that it has,it yet is not ruling the nations,quite the opposite, who really is ruling them in whole world is the Devil- Luke 4:5-7-,he offered it to JESUS saying:All this power will I give thee,and the glory of them:for that is delivered unto me;and to whomsoever I will I give it.
The world is in the way the Devil likes,so where is the Kingdom of GOD?The Kingdom of GOD MUST be conquered in LITERAL fulfillment of Revelation 6:1-2; 11:15-18; 12:10-12,take a look.By the way,where is the warriors of GOD's Kingdom?Sleeping?Or,by analogy,being guided by the angel of Sardis or Laodiceans- Revelation 3:1-6&14-19?Terrible,so terrible as happened in the Samuel's time: 1Samuel 5:1-2 & 13:22-23,take a look.The people of GOD MUST awake though it be midnight,we are living in perilous times:2Tim.3:1-This know also,that in the last days perilous times shall come.But here's the promise of our GOD?
Ps.91:
5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night;
nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness;
nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7A thousand shall fall at thy side,
and ten thousand at thy right hand;
but it shall not come nigh thee.
8Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9...thou has made the Lord...most High,thy habitation;
10There shall no evil befall thee,neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
11He shall give His angels charge over thee,to keep thee in all thy ways.
12They shall bear thee up in their hands,lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder:..and the DRAGON shalt thou trample under feet( Revelation 12:9-11)
14...therefore will I deliver him:I will set him on high,because he hath known my name.
15He shall call upon me,and I will answer him:I will be with him in trouble;I will deliver him,and honour him
16With long life will I satisfy him,and shew him my salvation
See,the Word of GOD is from everlasting to everlasting, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself,self-executing, it's the Power. We are living in the seventh and last millennium after Adam,or seventh and last Day,the Lord's Day.As is written- Revelation 11:6&18-, more Power WILL BE GIVEN over waters,over peoples,and NATIONS,and multitudes of all tongues,understand? to turn them to BLOOD, and to smite the earth with ALL PLAGUES,as often as will. So the OPENING of the 7 seals starts,the first four seals is LITERALLY fulfilled from now on with the appearance/manifestation of 4 horseriders and what each one does and shall do, it is written in Revelation 6:1-8,take a look.One of them works for the Lord JESUS-Michael-,three of them work for the Devil,the MAN of sin,son of perdition;would be them Putin, Xi Jiping and Trump,or other?It is up to the believers to discern and identify them by the Spirit of GOD,they are already moving in the scenary.
OTOH,meanwhile,all Christian believers which were slain for the Word of GOD and testimony which they held from the 4th to the 6th Day(the last 2000 years)THEY MUST REMAIN UNDER THE ALTAR as it is showed in Revelation 6:9-11& Re.8:3-5 combined with Revelation 19:5-10,take a look.
We are in the Lord's Day, time of the Apocalypse, the TURN of the 6th to the 7th Day, the Trumpets starts TO SOUND at the opening of the 7th seal,as is written- Revelation 8:1-7.From now on there will be terrible punishments,only and only punishment, but it is the beginning of the chastisings according to the Word of GOD;6th seal is LITERALLY fulfilled even BEFORE the beginning of the 1st half, and it lasts until the beginning of the 2nd half of the last week of years.
The above described is the scenary to be seen in the first half of the last week, and the 2nd half, how will it be?
The PLAGUES will be poured in the 2nd half of the last week: Revelation 16:2: The FIRST PLAGUE will be poured upon the earth; upon the inhabitants of Israel.
What I know is that the four riders of Apocalypse , one of GOD and three of the Devil, they are already running /walking with their Powers that reflects in whole world, for example, Trump is the most publicized person in the entire world today, and is not he the Rider of the Red Horse? Revelation 6:3-4
3 - And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, Come. 4 And another horse came forth, a red horse: and to him that sat thereon it was given to take peace from the earth, and that they should slay one another: and there was given unto him a great Sword. (devilish /evil Sword, to take peace from the earth)
Ezekiel 7:5-16, among many other biblical references:
5 Thus saith the Lord: An evil, an only evil; behold, it cometh. 6 An END is come, the END is come; it awaketh against thee; behold, it cometh. 7 Thy doom is come unto thee, O inhabitant of the land: the time is come, the Day is near(the Lord's Day), a Day of tumult, and not of joyful shouting...8 Now will I shortly pour out my wrath upon thee, and accomplish mine anger against thee, and will Judge thee according to thy ways; and I will bring upon thee all thine abominations. 9 And mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: I will bring upon thee according to thy ways; and thine abominations shall be in the midst of thee; and ye shall know that I, the Lord, do smite.
10 Behold, the Day, behold, it cometh...pride hath budded. 11 Violence is risen up into a rod of wickedness; none of them shall remain, nor of their multitude, nor of their wealth: neither shall there be eminency among them. 12 The time is come, the day draweth near: let not the buyer rejoice, nor the seller mourn; for wrath is upon all the multitude thereof.
1Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 3Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
This prayer is basically synonymous with Revelation 19; and a host of other prophecies related to Christ's return in victory to rule and reign over the earth. The Tribulation itself begins just 7 years earlier with the Daniel 9:27 covenant "with many". The covenant with "death and hell" ( Isaiah 28:15 describing what the authors of this contract themselves proclaim at its inception).
It appears that the world may very well praise God if we take the verses in Revelation 5:3 literally. Once we get to the sixth seal in Revelation 6:12-15 we see men running from God's judgment; but after the Revelation 13 beast rises up and the False Prophet does his thing the world will take their mark of allegiance and in the end will be deceived by the 3 demons ( Rev. 16:13) and decide to fight against the Lord. That will be a consummation of a number of battles; not the least of which is the Ezekiel 38 war where everyone meets at Meddigo; probably beginning to fight one another; then turning on each other and fighting Christ.
Moving on; verses 4-7 say: He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
6Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Trying to focus this as it applied to David's understanding of what was a clearly prophetic message; we see how David was a sort of forerunner of the Messiah who would indeed be victorious over His foes and rule and reign. David is promised to rule with Him as well ( Jeremiah 30:9).
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Is Revelation 6:2 referring to the Second Coming of Christ?
In Revelation 19:11-15, we are given the vision of the second coming of Christ. The Key Verses are Psalm 45:3-4, Psalm 96:13, and Isaiah 11:4.
In Revelation Chapter 19, we see that when Christ returns at His Second Coming, He will be riding a white horse. Chapter 19 also tells us that when Christ comes at His second coming, He will be wearing MANY CROWNS.
If we go back to Revelation 6:2, we also see a white horse. Some see "white horse", and they connect this with the white horse in Revelation Chapter 19 and believe this is Jesus riding this horse in both places, Chapters 6 and 19. But is the rider the same in both places?
In Chapter 19, I do believe that the rider on the white horse is Jesus. But in Chapter 6, the rider is not referring to Jesus. It is the representation of the antichrist, the false messiah who will come.
The only thing the same in both places is the white horse and this can mislead us into thinking this is Jesus because we know He will return on a white horse. But in Chapter 6, it is not Jesus. I say this because of the differences I see between Chapters 6 and 19. I will share these differences in a second post as I am unable to fit this into a single post.
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Here are the differences I see that cause me to come to this conclusion:
In Chapter 6, this one who is sitting on a white horse has a bow (TOXON). In Revelation Chapter 19, Christ has a sword (RHOMPHAIA), not a bow. In Chapter 6, it says a crown (Singular) was given to this one. And the word for crown in Chapter 6 is STEPHANOS. That's the wreath that is given to the victors at the coliseum games. This is a STEPHANOS. It is not the crown Christ will be wearing. Jesus will not be wearing a wreath. He will be wearing a royal crown, a DIADEM.
In Revelation Chapter 19, it says that when Christ comes at His second coming, He will be wearing MANY CROWNS, and the word for crown is DIADEM, the royal crown. It is not a STEPHANOS, the wreath that the false messiah will be wearing.
In Chapter 6, it says this one will come out conquering and to conquer. And that's the antichrist taking over the one world system. Also, another point to make, it is the Lamb that's opening the seal. He's not coming back yet, not until Revelation Chapter 19.
So, this one riding on a white horse in Revelation 6:2 with a bow in his hand, he was given a crown, a STEPHANOS which is a wreath, not a DIADEM, the royal crown that Christ will be wearing. And he went out to conquer. This is the antichrist. This is the false messiah that Jesus said would come first.
Hopefully this might be helpful to some. I was one who used to believe that the rider on the white horse in Revelation 6:2 was Jesus. But after comparing the differences using the original text, I no longer see these two places referring to the Second Coming of Christ, but one referring to the false Messiah ( Revelation 6:2), and the other ( Revelation 19:11-15) referring to our Savior Jesus Christ coming wearing a royal crown and with a sword. Not a wreath, not a bow!
Blessings in Christ Jesus!
The lynchpin; as it were of Bible Prophecy is how close we are to the Daniel 9:27 covenant being fulfilled. In short; without a specific timeframe of 1 prophetic week (7 years) the current agreement with Gaza involving many participants isn't the final one initiating the 1st horse of Revelation 6:1 YET.
Zepheniah 2:4-7 states:
4 For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up.
5 Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast, the nation of the Cherethites! the word of the Lord is against you; O Canaan, the land of the Philistines, I will even destroy thee, that there shall be no inhabitant.
6 And the sea coast shall be dwellings and cottages for shepherds, and folds for flocks.
7 And the coast shall be for the remnant of the house of Judah; they shall feed thereupon: in the houses of Ashkelon shall they lie down in the evening: for the Lord their God shall visit them, and turn away their captivity.
We see here the utter destruction of this area; likely in the same time frame as the Psalm 83 war. We see Israel more or less dwelling there afterwards as verse 7 seems to indicate.
For me; the Ezekiel 38 war MAY make more sense to occur BEFORE the Tribulation even starts likely initiating the Daniel 9:27 covenant OR right after the Rapture and likewise triggering the first seal. In any case the issue here is the land of unwalled villages mentioned and it will take time; perhaps too much time for all that and the Temple construction to occur after the Rapture. To have some sense of security the immediate neighbors of hostility need to be dealt with desicively; although it seems it has begun with Iran and its proxies it seems armed attempts at rebellion are inevitable with the current setup which the international community along with our current leadership will probably once and for all annihalate. That's the way I see it anyway.
2 Thessalonians 2 states 2 Thessalonians
1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
The wording here is confusing; admittedly but the Day of Christ may be defined when He has begun His rule and reign on earth; and that has to begin with the process of judgments; the first of which is the man of sin in Revelation 6:1-2 being revealed; which the restrainer in verse 6 (that as I see it being the Spirit as it works in the churches today) is removed. That can be seen in the verses describing what MUST occur immediately after the description of the churches in Revelation 4:1 as symbolized by John the Apostle who likely literally saw into the future.
The idea of the bridegroom and bride going into the chamber may be seen as hinted in other verses in scripture such as Psalm 27:5 For in the time of trouble he shall hide me in his pavilion: in the secret of his tabernacle shall he hide me; he shall set me up upon a rock.
I could elaborate further later.
Our day of redemption will arrive; at last. This earth is not our home. I see here tonight especially many with ongoing struggles.
Those who know the Lord will see if they indeed are called home at the Rapture things from an eternal perspective. The earth is seething with demons around every corner; although men's wickedness allows them to be empowered. Anyone truly saved and who possesses the Spirit has the authority to hold these forces at bay; although sadly many don't bother exercising (or should I say exorcizing) these God given rights.
Dead churches are doing more harm than good; because they encourage people to be comfortable in not proclaiming the Gospel and challenging individuals to grow in their walk; hence people are spiritually sick in various stages of dying. These were words my ex wife actually used before she went full force into adultery. When we get the first signs of realization that the enemy is getting a stronghold especially in marriages we need to be on the offensive in prayer mode. I wasn't even thinking this when I started but that is something a few tonight I believe need to hear. There are women present who appear to have a proper perspective on proper behavior in terms of submission but need to be offensively praying against the tactics of the enemy attempting to control them and their partner. We should encourage prayer with our husbands or wives especially if they claim authority in the church. In secret prayer women or men can wield tremendous power; and I pray that for those in need.
I got your reply, thanks for responding.
Here is what I'm doing.
There is three major viewpoints on the Millennium, as discussed in Christian eschatology,
Premillennialism,
Amillennialism, and
Postmillennialism.
These views differ primarily in their interpretation of the 1,000-year reign of Christ mentioned in Revelation 20
This is to compare how these three groups interpret the Bible concerning the end time scenario after the tribulation period on into the Millennium.
We all fall in one of these groups.
Thanks for giving yours, I will give the sequence in the way I interpret it after I get some more responses.
This is not to debate but to show the different ways this section of scripture is interpreted between the three groups.
So Your belief is there is the wrath of God after the sixth seal, in Revelation 6:12-17. This is when Jesus returns to earth, and when Jesus returns, it will be as in Mathew 24:29-31. We will then meet Him in the air, and we all come down together to populate the Millenium
The ones cast into the lake of fire are those living or killed who worshiped the beast and received his mark.
That leaves those in Christ who are in the first resurrection who returns with Christ and nations of people who neither worshiped the beast nor received his mark, nor believed in Jesus. This may have been after the fullness of the Gentiles, and they may have missed the opportunity.
Then Satan is loosed to deceive the nations to gather them together to battle and then comes the final Judgment of the rest of the dead.
Thanks Brother.
1 "Can you tell me how you interpret the events after the tribulation period, on into the Millennium, when Satan is chained and when he is loosed?"
I will do my best to show my understanding of your questions. My study is simple, and I rely on the Bible for interpretation. I use Word Search, a concordance, and my Bible provides other verses that cross-reference a word or phrase throughout Scripture.
The book of Revelation is not in chronological order. We see in Revelation 1:7, that when He comes in the clouds, every eye will see Him. Revelation 6:12-17 shows a vision given to John after the Sixth Seal, revealing the signs of Jesus' coming. Cross-references include Joel 2:10-11, 30-31, Matthew 24, and others.
In Revelation 11:15-19, the seventh trumpet, or the last trumpet, signals the coming of Jesus, ending the tribulation and beginning God's wrath. Revelation 14 combines visions that are not in order; we see Jesus standing on Mount Zion with the 144000, which would occur after Revelation 19:11-16. We know this because, when He returns, His feet will land on the Mount of Olives, as described in Zechariah 14:4.
Revelation 14:6-7 describes the angel preaching the everlasting gospel, which must occur near the end of the tribulation. The announcement of Babylon's fall is seen in chapters 17 and 18. Revelation 14:9-11 states the fate of those who worship the beast, take its mark, and follow the beast and the false prophet. This is carried out in Revelation 19:20-21.
Revelation 14:12-13 declares, "Blessed are those who die in the Lord from henceforth," even as the tribulation continues. My understanding of Revelation 14:14-16, which covers the harvest and the first resurrection, is supported by passages like Revelation 19:11-16, Revelation 20:4-6, and Matthew 24:29-31. Revelation 14:17-20 describes the battle of Armageddon, with related references in Revelation 19:17-21, Ezekiel 39:17-21, and Luke 17:37.
See Part 2
Revelation 6:12-17. Even as v17 states, "For the great day of his wrath is come". These verses seem to show the fullness and culmination of God's Wrath. But what if verses 1 to 11 are also a real part of God's Wrath, where war, famine, death, & martyrdom occur in greater measure than previously seen on Earth. I realize that some understand these verses depicting the state of the world & sufferings over the centuries as the various seals are opened, but could the opening of these Seal Judgements occur in fast order, demonstrating that something supernatural (i.e. out of the ordinary) is now occurring, which culminates in the shaking of the heavens? Anyway, will leave it that for now and thanks again for your input which was indeed very thought-provoking. Blessings.
What is the Rapture? It is a doctrine that began in the 1800s and is widely accepted today. The belief in it is so strong that many see it as a promise, a guarantee, that the Church will be taken to heaven and escape the great tribulation, which is often confused with the wrath of God. But is it true or just a deception? Isn't the rapture a resurrection? We see there are only two resurrections, in Revelation 20:6 and Revelation 20:12-13, separated by a thousand years.
Nowhere is the Church shown in heaven; Revelation 19:7-9 is not about the Church. It describes the bride of Christ adorned with the righteousness of the saints. The marriage and the marriage supper will not occur until Revelation 21:1-2, which takes place after the new heaven and new earth. The angel shows John the bride, the Lamb's wife, who is not the Church, as stated in Revelation 21:9-11.
We must distinguish between the great tribulation and the wrath of God; they are not the same. Tribulation refers to the suffering and persecution faced by believers. We see in Revelation 12:12, Woe to the inhabitants of the earth, for the devil has come down to you, having great wrath. This is when he gives power to the beast, and the great tribulation begins. The short time Satan believed he had was 3.5 years, not seven. Revelation 13:5 mentions 42 months, which is 1260 days, or 3.5 years. The prophecy in Daniel 9 is all about the Messiah, Jesus, and the time Israel has.
We do not see the wrath of God and the Lamb until after the sixth seal, in Revelation 6:12-17. This is when Jesus returns to earth, the earth is round, and when Jesus returns, it will be as in Mathew 24:29-31. We will then meet Him in the air, and we all come down together.
God bless,
RLW
So to some pertinent portions from the Word:
a) Revelation 3:10 (to the Philadelphian Church). This refers to the final seven year tribulation period in which the antichrist will be allowed to deceive the world ( 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12). Believers can have hope that should this final period come to pass in their lifetimes, they will be kept from having to face God's wrath during the tribulation period; and this Great Tribulation as Jesus spoke about (in Matthew 24:21-31) is the Day of God's Wrath, from which the Church is to be kept from. Even in Zephaniah 2:3, a little glimpse is given of those who will be "hid in the day of the LORD's ANGER".
b) 1 Thessalonians 5:9 and 1 Thessalonians 1:10: believers are not appointed to bear God's Wrath but to receive His salvation from it. While it is true that God's wrath is most fully poured out in the sentencing of unbelievers to hell, Revelation 6:15-17 makes it clear that God's wrath is also being poured out upon the earth during the tribulation period (for that is what it means) and believers will not be a part of that. However, those who come to faith during the tribulation will have to suffer the effects of God's wrath, not having received the promise of being kept from the hour of trial. But those days will be cut short for His Elect's sake ( Matthew 24:22).
c) Revelation 19:7-9. The Church is already in Heaven with the Lord, clothed & prepared for the marriage of the Lamb. It is following this that Jesus is seen with the armies of heaven coming to earth to lie waste the armies of the earth and to cast the beast and false prophet into the Lake of Fire ( Revelation 19:11-21). Thus, the church must have already been raptured and taken to heaven before Jesus comes the second time. To Page 3.
2. Revelation 6:10 : "And they cried out in a loud voice, 'How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You avenge our blood and judge those who dwell on the earth?'" This verse highlights the cry of the martyrs for justice against those who have persecuted them, indicating that "those who dwell on the earth" are often seen as persecutors of the faithful.
3. Revelation 8:13 : "Then I looked and heard an eagle flying in midair, calling out in a loud voice: 'Woe, woe, woe to those who dwell on the earth, because of the trumpet blasts about to be sounded by the remaining three angels!'" The woes pronounced upon "those who dwell on the earth" suggest impending judgment and calamity.
4. Revelation 11:10 : "And those who dwell on the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate and send each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented them." This passage describes the reaction of "those who dwell on the earth" to the death of God's prophets, indicating their opposition to God's messengers.
5. Revelation 13:8 : "And all who dwell on the earth will worship the beast-all whose names have not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life belonging to the Lamb who was slain." This verse underscores the allegiance of "those who dwell on the earth" to the beast, contrasting them with those whose names are in the book of life.
Thanks to Bible hub I found all 5 of these references to those who dwell on the earth; again a strong indication of the Rapture but also indicative of the difference between those written in the Book of Life and those who are not. I'll delve into this more in the nest post.
"Honesty" is such a lonely word
Everyone is so untrue
Honesty is hardly ever heard
And mostly what I need from you
In continuing with the theme of the recent postings; I will admit that it is hard to come to a grip with my own life but someone who is truly His realizes the mess they are and utter dependance on the Spirit. It seems what is harder is trying to explain this to others who often think I am disparaging my own character in being too hard for myself rather than viewing my statements as a cathartic thing in discussing such issues with friends. Much like a human relationship the Lord wants us to be real and communicate things with Him as hiding anything of course is futile.
Pleading with God even frustrated with Him can still be avoided as being a sin because Jesus Himself had to petition to God in regard to His suffering knowing what it would do to His righteous soul. How long o Lord was expressed by David himself as well as the saints under the altar in Revelation 6:10. The difference between righteous pleading and unbelief is the key here; those of faith even as Job may fling some wild accusations against God (he didn't know Satan was to blame for much of his misery) but he still didn't disparage God's character. It was wrong that he blamed God even out of ignorance and not knowing God's full majesty the Lord had to speak twice to him where his response was only one sentence each time at the end repenting in dust and ashes. This fits into my earlier theme. In Job no human could understand the depth of Job's suffering; or respect the integrity of his conduct all his life. We must remember that he was praised in Job 1:1 as to his moral character. There was much truth in his friends (if we can call them that) statements; but no love. The Lord broke Job even more but look at the end result. God understands our frame ( Psalm 103:14) and will eventually deliver our bodies and souls.
Agape.
The concept of total depravity; of course is an attempt to find a definition that fits best the admittedly appalling condition of the human heart as seen in Jeremiah 17:9. Whether we banter about decrying our hopeless condition because of a doctrinal assent of the situation or it is because the love of God constrains us ( 2 Corinthians 5:14) may sound the same on the outside; but it makes all the difference in reaching lost souls in the inside. One only needs to grasp Isaiah 6:5 and other verses on those prophets that saw God's presence and glory to see that this is a default reaction for all men to have. The world at large; of course scanters off in fear; or as Revelation 6:15-17.
Many today are shielded and have a temporary reprieve; as it were who hang around Christians; whether professing faith or not.
The going may be good for now; not to mention having people around who can help out in a pinch; but once the Bride of Christ is raptured; no such protection will continue to exist.
Another concept I'd like to hammer home is that in regard to Predestination (and I have said this before) it is not so much what we do but the reasons for doing it. The world no doubt is enamored with those who give a lot to the poor; and who are influential and everyone seems to live by their own standards but conforms to what is acceptable which reminds us of the Pharisees in Luke 16:15. The Lord did say they would praise God for our good works ( Matthew 5:16). Since He also mentions in the beatitudes blessing those who curse us in the same chapter in verse 44 as well as in Luke's rendition we certainly don't expect praise for the reason we do things but for external actions by some; although in theory those in the body of Christ should recognize such attributes but those who are Godly usually aren't the prominent ones in the Church even genuine works. There are many who make a sideshow for greedy gain ( 1 Tim. 6:10)
Regarding the return of Jesus, I only see in Scripture that He returns once. As seen in 1 Matthew 24:29-31, Mark 13:24-27, Luke 21:25-28, John 14:3, Acts 1:11, 1 Corinthians 15:51-55, 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-4, Hebrews 9:28, Revelation 1:7, Revelation 6:12-17, Revelation 19:11-21, through Revelation 20:1-6, is the same event when Jesus returns, and it occurs after the tribulation of the beast. My understanding is that there is only one Day of the Lord, and that is when Jesus returns.
Regarding the Messiah, I have never asked a Jew about their understanding of it. What I have previously read about Jewish faith is that one day a charismatic Jewish leader, the anointed of God, a man with the characteristics of God, a direct descendant of the Davidic line, will gather Jews from around the world, and bring them back to the Land of Israel and restore the kingdom ridding them of all oppressors.
That was what they were looking for during the time Jesus was here during His 3.5-year ministry, a human conqueror. The disciples were looking for Him to set up the kingdom; they even asked Him after He was resurrected, Acts 1:6-7. They were looking for what we see will happen in the millennium when Jesus returns to earth.
It was mainly the leaders of Jerusalem who did not see or did not hear, which caused blindness in part to happen to Israel, who rejected Jesus; many accepted Jesus as the Messiah while He was here. The leaders of Jerusalem played a prominent role in turning the crowds against Jesus, and it was the nation of Israel as a whole that rejected Him. And today, most Jews do not believe the Messiah has come.
I know we may not agree, but I hope I answered your question.
God bless,
RLW
I am not one to put my faith in politics and am not going to attest to any clear evidence our Commander in Chief is a Christian.
I'll let others argue that point; nonetheless I am grateful that today as with other recent meetings he has consulted on the phone with Mr. Putin. There is apparently some sane conversation; albeit Russia is intransigent on achieving its goals which seem pretty evident to include almost complete annihilation of the country in question where they have been at war since 2022. There have been other discussions which may bring temporary peace; at least to the African nations he has brokered peace with Rwanda and Congo last week. In terms of the expanded Abraham Accords we certainly can't avoid implications that either lead toward or will ultimately broker the covenant confirmed with many in Daniel 9:27; since the 2 state solution obsession lives on after decades of failed efforts. Nonetheless; I am grateful for every day we don't have judgment on this country; but mark my words the time is coming. War; famine and pestilence in the seal judgments are coming in their fullness soon; and perhaps some other things will have partial fulfillment beforehand.
I am sorry to say that there has been things in my life regarding sin that have dragged me into a feeling of hopelessness and doom. I can probably say that all of us here need to walk consistently in the Spirit to overcome; especially today. The doom that is coming SHOULD make us motivated to warn others to flee the wrath to come; whether it be the Tribulation or hell (a sort of simultaneous thing if we read ( Revelation 6:8). I believe Satan wants us to be afraid that we will be left behind. Truly the Lord warns us in Luke 21:36 to be praying we are worthy to escape all these things to come to pass; and that same concept is shown by the overcomers in the Philadelphia church in Revelation 3:10. Let us submit our lives fully to the Spirit
Revelation 19:11 - And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and He that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He does judge and make war. In other words, the emphasis is that everything the Lord does is in righteousness. He makes war, and He judges, and it's all righteous.
Please notice, because this is what I alluded to back in Chapter 6 Verses 1 and 2 at the breaking of the first seal, because remember there was a white horse that came out, and the one sitting upon it had a bow in his hand. And he went out to conquer those upon the earth.
And for many years, scholars believed that was a picture of the second coming of Christ. But I showed you how it lines up in Mark Chapter 13. The first four phases that Jesus gave was the revelation of the false messiahs.
The red horse was the wars and rumors of wars. The black horse was the famine. And the pale green horse was death, either by the beasts of the land, or people, or earthquakes, or various events.
That person back in Revelation 6:1-2, he came on a white horse, but he had a bow. He didn't have a sword. His crown was a STEPHANOS, a wreath, where the Lord here, He's going to have DIADEMS, not one, but many.
So, the white horses match, but everything else is different. And that's why Revelation 6:1-2 is not the revelation of Christ at His second coming. This here is the second coming. That was the representation of the false messiah.
Here Christ comes on a white horse. And He was called faithful and true. And in righteousness He does judge and make war.
Revelation 6:6 - And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
A measure of wheat for a penny, which is a quart measure, a dry measure of wheat for a DENARIUS, one day's wage. And three measures of barley. Barley was the food of the poor. Barley was the food for the animals. And people would be able to afford three measures of barley instead of one measure of wheat for a DENARIUS.
And see you hurt not the oil and the wine. And this would be the consumption of those who are rich. The antichrist will have control over the world's food supplies, under the breaking of the third seal.
Revelation 6:8 - And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
And I looked, and behold a pale horse. This Greek word for pale, CHLOROS, is where we get our word chlorine from, pale horse. And the name of him that sat upon him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth. So of the earth's population will die at the breaking of the fourth seal.
Revelation 6:10 - And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Just as a side note, and I think I've shared this before, but that little phrase "them that dwell upon the earth," it's actually a title. It's called the earth dwellers. All the people who are not Christians are called earth dwellers. As believers, we are citizens of heaven. And then there are the dwellers upon the earth. So, this crowd is saying "How long before you avenge the spilling of our blood?"
Revelation 6:2 - And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
For many years this was interpreted that this was the second coming of Jesus Christ, a white horse coming, the one who's sitting on it is given a crown, and he goes out to conquer, so it was thought to be Jesus Christ.
But this is not the second coming of Christ, but rather the representation of the antichrist, the false messiah who will come.
And here's the reasons why:
It says he comes on a white horse. It's the same as Jesus in Revelation Chapter 19. It's a white horse. But, this one who is sitting on a white horse has a bow. In Revelation Chapter 19, Christ has a sword.
A crown was also given to this one. And the word for crown in this verse is STEPHANOS. That's the wreath that is given to the victors at the coliseum games. This is a STEPHANOS. In Revelation Chapter 19, it says that when Christ comes at His second coming, He will be wearing many crowns, and the word for crown is in Chapter 19 is DIADEM, the royal crown.
And this one will come out conquering and to conquer. And that's the antichrist taking over the one world system.
Also, another point to make, it is the Lamb that's opening the seal. He's not coming back yet, not until we get into Revelation Chapter 19.
So, this one riding on a white horse with a bow in his hand, he was given a crown, a STEPHANOS, not a DIADEM. And he went out to conquer. This is the antichrist. This is the false messiah that Jesus said first would come.
Revelation 6:6 - And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine.
A measure of wheat for a penny, which is a quart measure, a dry measure of wheat for a DENARIUS, one day's wage. And three measures of barley. Barley was the food of the poor. Barley was the food for the animals. And people would be able to afford three measures of barley instead of one measure of wheat for a DENARIUS.
And see you hurt not the oil and the wine. And this would be the consumption of those who are rich. The antichrist will have control over the world's food supplies, under the breaking of the third seal.
Revelation 6:8 - And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
And I looked, and behold a pale horse. This Greek word for pale, CHLOROS, is where we get our word chlorine from, pale horse. And the name of him that sat upon him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth. So of the earth's population will die at the breaking of the fourth seal.
Revelation 6:10 - And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?
Just as a side note, and I think I've shared this before, but that little phrase "them that dwell upon the earth," it's actually a title. It's called the earth dwellers. All the people who are not Christians are called earth dwellers. As believers, we are citizens of heaven. And then there are the dwellers upon the earth. So, this crowd is saying "How long before you avenge the spilling of our blood?"
Revelation 6:2 - And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
For many years this was interpreted that this was the second coming of Jesus Christ, a white horse coming, the one who's sitting on it is given a crown, and he goes out to conquer, so it was thought to be Jesus Christ.
But this is not the second coming of Christ, but rather the representation of the antichrist, the false messiah who will come.
And here's the reasons why:
It says he comes on a white horse. It's the same as Jesus in Revelation Chapter 19. It's a white horse. But, this one who is sitting on a white horse has a bow. In Revelation Chapter 19, Christ has a sword.
A crown was also given to this one. And the word for crown in this verse is STEPHANOS. That's the wreath that is given to the victors at the coliseum games. This is a STEPHANOS. In Revelation Chapter 19, it says that when Christ comes at His second coming, He will be wearing many crowns, and the word for crown is in Chapter 19 is DIADEM, the royal crown.
And this one will come out conquering and to conquer. And that's the antichrist taking over the one world system.
Also, another point to make, it is the Lamb that's opening the seal. He's not coming back yet, not until we get into Revelation Chapter 19.
So, this one riding on a white horse with a bow in his hand, he was given a crown, a STEPHANOS, not a DIADEM. And he went out to conquer. This is the antichrist. This is the false messiah that Jesus said first would come.
"But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived ( 2 Timothy 3:13).
And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. ( Matthew 24:11).
As we get closer to the time of the end; and the approach of the Antichrist's appearance; more and more false prophecies will seem to be fulfilled. It is only expected that if a man deceives the whole world as Revelation 13:8 says And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
Surely a false Messiah will appear to mirror many aspects of the true one; and reading Revelation shows how miraculous signs from heaven and most importantly an apparent restoration from death ( Revelation 13:3) after the deadly wound mentioned in Zechariah 11:17. The events of the first seal in Revelation 6:1 and also mentioned in the Daniel 9:27 passage and other verses from that book in particular show how he arises. It only takes a little homework to see that Islam teaches of an eventual 12th Imam who will arise and bring forth a time of peace; which echoes New Age; the Maitreya and other manifestations of a utopia believed to arrive after we have "evolved" to the next level.
For this study; I just pass through the final manifestation of evil on the earth in this age and will now focus on the false prophets of today as well as in the past to see characteristics. The first thing I would say is that a false prophet usually has false "profits". Titus 1:10-11 states For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain. There are some who clearly are fleecing the flock for exorbitant living that are in megachurches; but other times cults will declare a vow of poverty but bilk funds.
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.
2And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.
3And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see.
4And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.
Well; TWICE I pushed the wrong button in regard to about a half dozen OTHER verses related to this subject. I'm afraid something untoward will come out of my mouth that I didn't hold back after things got wiped out the second time if I attempt a third effort! Okay enough of a pity party here...
I will go back to something I have postulated in meditating on this subject today; namely what is so wrong with a peace agreement in general? After all we are called to "pray for the peace of Jerusalem" in Psalm 122:6. Well; the answer comes partially in what was stated earlier today; as to the "two state solution" fiasco; that inevitably is involved when negotiations ensue with eh Palestinians in particular and their terrorist organizations associated with their cause. The maddening concept fails because neither side wants that; the Muslims want the destruction of the nation as the "little Satan" as Iran puts it from the "river to the sea" and of course Israel for good cause doesn't want to sign such a suicidal pact. But in the future the "covenant with death and hell" ( Isaiah 28:15) will be fulfilled as they will apparently trust the lies of someone guaranteeing protection; peace and prosperity. To fast forward to the end of the Tribulation Satan leads the world to attempt to destroy Christ at His return his last "hail Mary" as it were.
Part 5
In Revelation 6:9-11, John is shown a vision of the souls of those who were slain for the word of God, the altar symbolizes the place of sacrifice and martyrdom, they are told to rest until their fellow servants are killed in the same way. This is a vision, as we see many in Revelation, it does not depict literal people's souls under the altar.
Another vision shown to Peter, James, and John on the mountain when Jesus was transfigured before them, Matthew 17:1-9. Jesus is the firstfruits of them that slept, and this is before Jesus was crucified. If Moses and Elijah/Elias were physically there, Jesus would not be the firstborn from the dead. Jesus told them not to tell this vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. The Greek word for vision is horama, the term horama refers to a supernatural vision or sight, often given by God to convey a message or revelation.
God bless,
RLW
Pt. 3
God's wrath is not capricious, driven by changing emotions and passions, as man is. Rather, it is a timeless stern, terrifying stance of His nature towards evil in all of its forms. His wrath is an inescapable reality toward a sin-cursed creation.
Every cemetery is a testament to God's sentence on sin in mankind. His anger and intolerance of sin is a real and it is deadly always. He is zealous for His holiness and therefore will not withstand sin in His presence. Even if He delays His justice, He will never cease to preserve the holiness and purity of His Presence.
God is not hasty in exercising His wrath. He is slow to anger ( Exodus 34:6-7). In His wisdom He determines how and when He will enact justice against sin. This slowness to exercise His anger and wrath should be a motivation towards repentance ( Joel 2:15) and never a license to engage in carefree sin and rebellion against Him. Exodus 34:7 says that He will not clear the guilty. (also see Numbers 14:18)
In the NT from the preaching of God's wrath by John the Baptist to the Wrath of the Lamb in Revelation the truth of God's just wrath pervades the books of the NT and speaks on this attribute in harmony with what the OT teaches about God's wrath. From Jesus and the apostles, salvation is presented as a rescue from God's wrath ( Mt. 3:7; Lk. 3:7; Mt. 5:22; 18:5; Mk. 9:48; Jn. 3:36; Acts 10:42). Peter says that they were commanded by Jesus to preach of God's judgment. ( Acts 2:14-36; 10:42)
Romans 4:15 explains how law-breaking invites God's wrath. Verse 9:23 describes how freely chosen sin fits sinners to be vessels of God's wrath, deserving of all He has willed this wrath to include: eternal punishment, torment, separation from God's Presence, and anguish. Revelation 6:16; 14:10 assign the execution of God's wrath, justice, and judgment to Jesus.
See Pt. 4
1Th.5:3-When they say,Peace and safety;then sudden destruction cometh upon them...and they shall not escape.
Amos 5:8-9-8 Seek him that makes the seven stars(by allegory 7 angels of the Gentile Church-Re.1:20)and Orion(Jewish Church-the remnant-Is.1:9& Amos 5:2-3),and turns the shadow of death into the morning,and makes the day dark with night:that calls for the waters of the sea(Gentile peoples/believers),and pours them out upon the face of the earth:The Lord is His name:9-That strengthens the spoiled against the strong,so that the spoiled shall come against the fortress
Soph.1:12-18
12And it shall come to pass at that time(the current time),that I will search Jerusalem with candles,and punish the men that are settled on their lees:that say in their heart,The Lord will not do good,neither will he do evil.
13Therefore their goods shall become a booty,and their houses a desolation(Mat.24:15-25):they shall also build houses,but not inhabit them;and they shall plant vineyards,but not drink the wine thereof.
14The great Day of the Lord is near,it is near,and hastes greatly(i.e.the 7th and last Day,or 7th and last millennium)even the voice of the Day of the Lord:the mighty man shall cry there bitterly( Revelation 6:13-17)
15That Day is a Day of wrath( Revelation 11:18),a Day of trouble and distress,a Day of wasteness and desolation,a Day of darkness and gloominess,a Day of clouds and thick darkness
16A Day of Trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities,and against the high towers
17And I will bring distress upon men,that they shall walk like blind men,because they have sinned against the Lord:and their blood shall be poured out as dust,and their flesh as the dung
18Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the Day of the Lord's WRATH(the 7th);but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of His jealousy:for He shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land
Get ready
The world is in the way the Devil likes,so where is the Kingdom of GOD?The Kingdom of GOD MUST be conquered in LITERAL fulfillment of Revelation 6:1-2; 11:15-18; 12:10-12,take a look.By the way,where is the warriors of GOD's Kingdom?Sleeping?Or,by analogy,being guided by the angel of Sardis or Laodiceans- Revelation 3:1-6&14-19?Terrible,so terrible as happened in the Samuel's time: 1Samuel 5:1-2 & 13:22-23,take a look.The people of GOD MUST awake though it be midnight,we are living in perilous times:2Tim.3:1-This know also,that in the last days perilous times shall come.But here's the promise of our GOD?
Ps.91:
5Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night;
nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
6Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness;
nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
7A thousand shall fall at thy side,
and ten thousand at thy right hand;
but it shall not come nigh thee.
8Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
9...thou has made the Lord...most High,thy habitation;
10There shall no evil befall thee,neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.
11He shall give His angels charge over thee,to keep thee in all thy ways.
12They shall bear thee up in their hands,lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
13Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder:..and the DRAGON shalt thou trample under feet( Revelation 12:9-11)
14...therefore will I deliver him:I will set him on high,because he hath known my name.
15He shall call upon me,and I will answer him:I will be with him in trouble;I will deliver him,and honour him
16With long life will I satisfy him,and shew him my salvation
OTOH,meanwhile,all Christian believers which were slain for the Word of GOD and testimony which they held from the 4th to the 6th Day(the last 2000 years)THEY MUST REMAIN UNDER THE ALTAR as it is showed in Revelation 6:9-11& Re.8:3-5 combined with Revelation 19:5-10,take a look.
We are in the Lord's Day, time of the Apocalypse, the TURN of the 6th to the 7th Day, the Trumpets starts TO SOUND at the opening of the 7th seal,as is written- Revelation 8:1-7.From now on there will be terrible punishments,only and only punishment, but it is the beginning of the chastisings according to the Word of GOD;6th seal is LITERALLY fulfilled even BEFORE the beginning of the 1st half, and it lasts until the beginning of the 2nd half of the last week of years.
The above described is the scenary to be seen in the first half of the last week, and the 2nd half, how will it be?
The PLAGUES will be poured in the 2nd half of the last week: Revelation 16:2: The FIRST PLAGUE will be poured upon the earth; upon the inhabitants of Israel.
continues in next post
What I know is that the four riders of Apocalypse , one of GOD and three of the Devil, they are already running /walking with their Powers that reflects in whole world, for example, Trump is the most publicized person in the entire world today, and is not he the Rider of the Red Horse? Revelation 6:3-4
3 - And when he opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, Come. 4 And another horse came forth, a red horse: and to him that sat thereon it was given to take peace from the earth, and that they should slay one another: and there was given unto him a great Sword. (devilish /evil Sword, to take peace from the earth)
Ezekiel 7:5-16, among many other biblical references:
5 Thus saith the Lord: An evil, an only evil; behold, it cometh. 6 An END is come, the END is come; it awaketh against thee; behold, it cometh. 7 Thy doom is come unto thee, O inhabitant of the land: the time is come, the Day is near(the Lord's Day), a Day of tumult, and not of joyful shouting...8 Now will I shortly pour out my wrath upon thee, and accomplish mine anger against thee, and will Judge thee according to thy ways; and I will bring upon thee all thine abominations. 9 And mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity: I will bring upon thee according to thy ways; and thine abominations shall be in the midst of thee; and ye shall know that I, the Lord, do smite.
10 Behold, the Day, behold, it cometh...pride hath budded. 11 Violence is risen up into a rod of wickedness; none of them shall remain, nor of their multitude, nor of their wealth: neither shall there be eminency among them. 12 The time is come, the day draweth near: let not the buyer rejoice, nor the seller mourn; for wrath is upon all the multitude thereof.
Starting in verses 1-3 we read:
1Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 3Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
This prayer is basically synonymous with Revelation 19; and a host of other prophecies related to Christ's return in victory to rule and reign over the earth. The Tribulation itself begins just 7 years earlier with the Daniel 9:27 covenant "with many". The covenant with "death and hell" ( Isaiah 28:15 describing what the authors of this contract themselves proclaim at its inception).
It appears that the world may very well praise God if we take the verses in Revelation 5:3 literally. Once we get to the sixth seal in Revelation 6:12-15 we see men running from God's judgment; but after the Revelation 13 beast rises up and the False Prophet does his thing the world will take their mark of allegiance and in the end will be deceived by the 3 demons ( Rev. 16:13) and decide to fight against the Lord. That will be a consummation of a number of battles; not the least of which is the Ezekiel 38 war where everyone meets at Meddigo; probably beginning to fight one another; then turning on each other and fighting Christ.
Moving on; verses 4-7 say: He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
5Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
6Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
Trying to focus this as it applied to David's understanding of what was a clearly prophetic message; we see how David was a sort of forerunner of the Messiah who would indeed be victorious over His foes and rule and reign. David is promised to rule with Him as well ( Jeremiah 30:9).