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Revelation 12:7 And there was WAR IN HEAVEN.......
Revelation 1:1 .....and sent and signified (or symbolic of) it by his angel....
Revelation 1:3 ....for the time is at hand....
Revelation is difficult at best to understand because most want believe the above two verses. The words were just as true for readers in Johns time as they are to us in our time and will be to those in the future who read them. The war in heaven (which began after Christ was crucified) was happening in Johns time just as it it happening today and will continue happening as long as there is a tomorrow.
Now, with the working of the Spirit let's see if by using other verses as the KEYS TO THE KINGDOM we can come to the truth about the WAR IN HEAVEN.
Luke 17:21 .....the kingdom of heaven is in YOU.....
2 Corinthians 12:2 ....such an one caught up to the THIRD HEAVEN.
1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and the Spirit of God DWELLETH IN
YOU?
There is a natural heaven, but an a symbol it represent us (WHERE GOD DWELLS)
Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the SPIRIT OF GOD, then the KINGDOM OF GOD IS COME UNTO YOU.
Revelation 12:7 ....and there was war in heaven (in you)...
Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out..
Revelation 12:10 And I heard a loud voice (the Holy Spirit) saying in heaven (in you), now is salvation, and strength, and the KINGDOM OF OUR GOD..
Luke 10:17-18 And he said unto them (the seventy he sent out to cast out devils), I beheld SATAN as lighting fall FROM HEAVEN (from those that Satan was cast out of).
2 Corinthians 10:4 For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God (Spirit) to the pulling down strong holds (traditions of man).
Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the (natural) warrior is with confused noise, and garments rolled in blood; but this (spiritual battle) shall be with (spiritual) burning and FUEL of (spiritual) FIRE.
if i could just touch a part of his robe
i know id be healed all sins forgiven
if i could just touch him i know id be whole..
"Father Guido Sarducci" said it costs 25 cents each time, so be careful cause they add up. 25, 25, 25...
1CORINTHIANS 14VERSE 2 it tells you when speak in and an unknown speaketh not unto men , but into God ....
I cannot believe what i am reading christians Paul saying why we speak in an unknown tongue saying we are speaking to God and you reject it ..I do not have words for the sorrow in my heart how so many christains on here find a way to tell God they do not want to speak to him in his spritual tongue ..actually denying the power of Gods existience
Jesus told of a beggar and a rich man in Luke 16:19-31. "And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;" Luk 16:22
Jesus went on to describe the the condition of the rich man and the beggar.
"And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented." Luk 16:24-25
So we see that Old Testament saints were in a place of comfort. New Testament saints are with the Lord. Both disembodied spirits. But we are promised that the dead will be raised and given incorruptible bodies.
"Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed." 1Co 15:51-52
In this passage, Matthew 24:15-28, Jesus tells His disciples of the a coming time of great tribulation, with the warning, "When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place."
This is the Daniel prophecy that Jesus was referring to, "And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate." Dan 9:27
An event like this happened in 167 BC when Antiochus IV desecrated the Temple and persecuted the Jews.
Some Christians think that Jesus' warning to, "pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:" Mat 24:20 was referring to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Others, including me, believe that this will be a future time known as The Great Tribulation or the time of Jacob's trouble or the Day of the LORD.
However, I thought Paul was at Corinth and then travelling to Jerusalem at the time this epistle was written - not yet a prisoner in Rome.
Maybe the explanation is "fellowprisoners" in Jesus Christ.
Will someone please clarify? TIA.
Deut 17:14-20 outlined what God revealed to Moses what a king should do or not.
"Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, THAT HIS HEART TURN NOT AWAY:"Deu 17:17
Solomon had 700 wives, many of which were for political alliances with other countries. They, in fact, did turn his heart away from God.
There are religions today that justify polygamy on the basis that lots of men in the Old Testament had many wives. They read and interpret The Scriptures with no understanding! Listen to what Jesus said about marriage.
"Have ye not read, that He which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." Mat 19:4-6
This answers ANY and ALL questions regarding marriage, what the definition of marriage is and how marriage should end. God's intent from the beginning was that the family unit was ONE man joined to ONE woman becoming ONE flesh for ONE lifetime.
I have been reading all your comments you have been posting here about "tongues". I see you are picking Scriptures and portraying them to be "only" about speaking in unknown tongues of the Holy Ghost. Like Isaiah 33:19. It says "Thou shalt NOT see a fierce people, a people of a deeper speech than thou canst perceive; of a stammering tongue, that thou canst not understand". The word "stammering" here is the Hebrew word "la ag" Strongs number H3932. Meaning "to deride or speak unintelligibly" or "to mock or ridicule". This is not speaking of the "tongues" of the Holy Ghost.
I don't want to argue with you Michael. If you want to believe that "only" those who can speak in an unknown "tongue" has received the Holy Ghost that is your belief. Like I stated before. To me with my experiences and understanding this is false. I was lead to reply to you.
I'll end with one question. The numerous times through the Gospels our Lord Jesus Christ prayed to the Father, as the very in depth prayer in John 17. Do you believe our Lord was not praying to our Father in the Holy Ghost because it was not in an unknown tongue?
Thank you for your answer. Again I don't want to quarrel. Especially with another believer in Christ so this will be my last statement on this subject.
Have a wonderful day. God Bless.
I agree with the Word Of God and whats written ...
Every word that proceeds from the mouth of God Jesus said...
Any thing you do deliverately God cannot protect you ..
If you know a snake is dangerous and you pick it up to prove a point your in trouble ..
Many use verse and scripture in the wrong context not discerning spiritual with spritual things ....any deadly thing can be seen this way a posionous snake can be they way a person speaks ...or how you hear....or what you see and assume the opposite as to what you should know about what you see .....Thats why the Word of God says ( LET NOT YOUR GOOD BE EVIL SPOKEN OFF ) ....
But in the Rapture of the Saints, those that are alive to be a part of it, will not die - will never taste of death, but be ushered with glorified bodies into the presence of Christ. And those of God's children who have died prior to the Rapture, will be raised from the dead first, that their glorified bodies would unite with their souls & together will be with the Lord forever. This was the comforting message to the Thessalonian believers who were despairing that those who had already died would miss out from being with Christ in their new bodies. Even though we cannot envisage such a spectacular event, how the dead are raised from almost no visible evidence to us, or indeed, how we are raised into the sky to be with the Lord, yet the Bible states this event & that we should live in such manner of expectancy & holy living.
Salvation, I believe is a once only event that was accomplished at the Cross & received through full faith in that Work. It can't be undone or re-given: we're either saved or not, or else, we show that we despise this great Work & count it of little worth. What you wrote, "that Salvation is a process of maturing in the spirit of Christ", I see that as the ongoing filling Work of the Spirit, as we continue to empty ourselves of that which hinders His Work. And when we do, He reveals to us more of Jesus, endeavouring to make us more like Him in every way. ( Ephesians 3:19, 5:18).
if you had read what I have being replying to Spencer with you would of notice I like to use scripture because
Jesus said every word that proceeds from the mouth of God and the Word of God also says if another angel brings another gospel let him be accursed..
I particularly use scripture for one reason its God you answer to not me .the word also tells me not to add or takeaway from the word of God it can cost you eternal life..
ACTS CHAPTER 2 Says ....
And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost and began to speak in other tongues as the SPIRIT GAVE them the utterance..
And spiritually anyone who speaks in tongues has their own tongue no one has the same...