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Richard in Christ, God bless you.

"Speaking in tongues is a special subject but this is what I found in my bible"

I Corinthians 14: 2-4, (kjv)

2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.

3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

4 He that speaketh in an unkown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.

Proverbs 4:7 (kjv)

Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.

My personal testimony,

The saint that have the gift to prophesy hopefully there is someone in church have the gift of interpretation. Or the Saint could bring an interpreter with them.

May God bless the reading and edifying of the word of God. Amen

There are meanings that God wants us now to know about. I know what the holy blood of Jesus is untouchable and it was not yet shed !

Now tht ir is shed and speaks for us

WE are to be thankful to God for this blessings that is working for us!

"And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now...".

This is just another way of saying, "Permit or allow this (special) baptism to proceed". I suppose it might also include the thought that John the Baptist was strongly opposing such a baptism, as hardly Jesus needed to be baptized. But Jesus quietly pleaded that John should perform it, for the fulfilling of all righteousness (i.e. to acknowledge His Coming, His Witness, & the receiving the Holy Spirit for the inauguration of His Ministry).

Matthew 7:13: "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat".

If this Scripture is indicative of actual entrances to Heaven or Hell, then the gate to Hell is '1'. And it is a wide gate that terminates from a broad road, so that the multitudes who have rejected God & His Saviour, are able to traverse it.

From what you've written, God clothed Adam & Eve with animal skins & saw them as animals. God never clothed me with any animal skin over my God-given human skin, that I'm aware of, so is this skin, that I might have been clothed with, an imaginary skin? Wouldn't it be better understood (& Scriptural) that we have all received the fallen nature of Adam & this is what God sees in his creation, rather than playing around with skins of animals that have no bearing on sin?

You said, "Fornication is the sin of the GentilesThis sin began in Eden". Adam & Eve were neither Jew nor Gentile & there is no evidence at all that they committed fornication. From where did you learn that Adam & Eve fornicated, or is it an assumption to support your belief?

Rev 11:8

Jerusalem is spiritually Sodom and Egypt

America is spiritually Gomorrah

Russia & China's iron and clay days are coming

Ezekiel 21:19-20 calls out 2 prime targets for destruction: [Israel and America] Is it any wonder why these 2 treacherous dealers reap the whirlwind in the day of destruction?

19 Also, thou son of man, appoint thee two ways, that the sword of the king of Babylon may come: both twain shall come forth out of one land: and choose thou a place, choose it at the head of the way to the city.

20 Appoint a way, that the sword may come to Rabbath of the Ammonites, and to Judah in Jerusalem the defenced.

Michael, I've been following this thread, & as Richard has said, "it seems to be going nowhere". If may also ask you a personal question: when you pray, do you only use the Gift of other Tongues (an unlearned language) that you believe you have received, or do you also pray in another (learned) language?

And one more question: I think you believe that every person who says he is born again & received the Holy Spirit, must show first evidence of speaking in other tongues - correct me if I'm wrong please. And if so, then all the believers in the Book of Acts & in the early Church (from Pentecost onwards) must have spoken in tongues as first evidence. Then why should the Apostle Paul ask, "And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?"

He clearly shows that in the Church, just as not everyone can claim to be an apostle or teacher or miracle worker, so to, not all have the gift of Tongues, of healing, or of interpretation. If you believe you have received the Gift, then use it for the Glory of God & for building up of His Church, just as we who have not received it, use our other gifts for those purposes. If what you have been taught instructs you that everyone in the Church must have the gift of Tongues, then there is abundant proof of the many mightily used of God in both prayer & ministry to others, that have never received that Gift but are doing their work in the Love & Power of the Spirit. Does this not tell us something: that maybe the evidence of the Spirit within is not just in Tongues, but in many other ways that God chooses to use His children for His Glory?

I see Psalm 22:1. There appears to be something more to this than I previously understood. Thanks.

How is salvation is like apromised Land

explain when God made people mistake to miracle

I heard this chapter used to support the partial rapture, multiple raptures, first fruits doctrine of Robert Govett. I think it has more to do with the parable of the wheat and the tares Matthew 13:24-30.

Jesus's recites Psalm 22 to remind the Priesthood that they didn't recognize him as God, even as they stood beside him, even though it was written in the Old Testament. Read the entire Psalm and see if you would?

Psalms 22:1 (To the chief Musician upon Aijeleth Shahar, A Psalm of David.) My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? 2O my God, I cry in the daytime, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. 3But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel. 4Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver

Michael,

Please. This conversation does not seem to be going anywhere. I already said I was done posting but when someone asks me a question I feel to answer. As I have already answered this to your question of "how do you pray in the Holy Ghost". You gave no post to what I replied. Only "you agree with the Word of God".

Do you not believe that the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit of God, comes into you and sups with you when you are born of the Spirit? There is no need to speak in unknown tongues to pray in the Holy Ghost. God knows every single word out of your mouth, every single thought in your mind, and knows our hearts. He knows everything about all of us and better than we know ourselves.

You say you agree with with the Word of God and what's written. Although only the verses that you like to mold to fit with your beliefs. As I have posted numerous verses from the Holy Bible and questions about them and have not received any answers from you.

Again Michael. If you don't believe I have received the Holy Ghost just because I cant murmur an unknown language. Like I said before you are wrong. I know and say in truth I have been Blessed to received the Holy Ghost because of what has happened in my life. All glory and thanks to our Father in Heaven through our Lord Jesus Christ.

( 1 Corinthians 14:22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not:

God Bless you.

My Lord My God Thank you for saving me.

After having been given God's holy spirit, and then denying that he exist, is to blasphem against the Holy Spirit; to my understanding.

Peggy,

"And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" Mat 27:46

You asserted, "I instinctively know the statement to be false; the king of kings would not whine like a pleb." You were referring to a quote from some other translation, "how could you forsake me?"

Jesus had been in various stages of anguish for hours from the previous evening.

"Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me. And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt." Mat 26:38-39

And Doctor Luke pointed out, "And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground." Luk 22:44

So for nearly 12 hours Jesus was in agony of soul, then severely beaten and abused prior to the crucifixion. However it was on the cross He experienced excruciating (a word we get from crucifixion) physical pain but not as painful as receiving The Wrath of God His Father. The ONLY time in The Gospels where He does not address God as Father!

"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." 2Co 5:21

The sinless Lamb of God, bearing our sin, and The Wrath of God.

"He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."Joh 3:36

Finally, Jesus is quoting Psalm 22:1. "LOOK HERE!" This Psalm of David was prophetic about The Messiah. "But I am a worm" (Tolah, a scarlet worm that dies and the secretion turns from red to white in three days) "They pierced my hands and my feet." "They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture." "He hath done this" (It is finished!).

Thanks for the commentary. very enlightening and helpful. Jesus rose from the grave on Sunday, the first day of the week. That was a great victory over death. Is that the reason why the seventh day sabbath was done away with? Can you give me some texts to support this view?

Sin in the garden separated all men from God.

God's word states that the soul that sinneth shall die.

In the Bible a man lost his life for spilling his seed on the ground. God doesn't always tell man why he commands certain things from however he did say "I am the LORD, and I change not. I believe that those things which he wishes to change with mankind he states so.

Look at the Mark 3:22 and you will see what had occurred before Jesus made that statement. Never say anything bad about the Holy Spirit.

Chris

You said "If we cover human beings given to sexual deviancy with the skin of animals, then God sees them as animals?" No, humans do not cover humans with skins. God covers humans with skins as stated in Gen.3:21, "unto Adam and also unto his wife did the Lord God make coats of skins and clothed them." God clothed them in skins. God did not literally kill an animal and use the skin from that animal. God saw them as animals. Animals are not the image of God. After a person commits unnatural sex they have departed from God to serve Satan. They are no longer the image of God. They are like the animals that are not the image of God.

When Jesus sees an entire generation as vipers, they are not wearing Halloween costumes. They did not dress themselves as snakes. He is saying they are children of Satan and not children of God.

The word fornication does not cover all sexual acts. It did not include David's adultery. All sin is not equal. Fornication is idolatry, whoring. 1 Cor. 6:13, "The body is not made for fornication, but for the Lord."

Fornication is the sin of the Gentiles.

Acts 15:28,29: "I lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood and from things strangled, and from fornication from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well."

Fornication is the sin of Babylon.

Babylon is mentioned 260 times in the King James Bible

Rev. 19:2, "For true and righteous are his judgments: for he hath judged the great whore, which did corrupt the earth with her fornication [porneia], and hath avenged the blood of his servants at her hand." The entire earth will be corrupted by this most popular sin of unnatural sex. It is the broad way that leads to destruction. This sin began in Eden.

why are we using pope gregory's calendar saturday as God's Created Sabbath?

1 Corinthians 14:1-4 "Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy. 2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: (If it is an unknown tongue (language), it is reasonable to assume that men would not understand it, but God understands all languages, so a person speaking in an unknown tongue would be speaking to God. for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. 3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort. 4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself;(showing off) but he that prophesieth edifieth the church." Tongues are for them that believe not.

NO, that is the "Lord's day".

Tongues are for them that believe NOT. 1 Corinthians 14:22 "Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe." As Christians we walk by faith, not by sight (sings, tongues). 2 Corinthians 5:7 "(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)".

God does speak to his people today. Some Bible scriptures can only be understood by revelation. It is not good to make assumptions about the Bible unless it is written. In a lot of denominations people believe things in the scriptures have passed away and that is because people come up with these ideas that have no bible foundation. The scriptures cannot be understood fully by simply reading. I always pray for understanding and revelation before reading God's word and I do receive as requested.

Luke 24:45

Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures,

Mark 4:11

And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:

1 Corinthians 2:14

But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

We were already dead, and the Bible says, Ephesians 2:1 "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins:" Once you believe the Gospel for the Gentiles, God quickens you.

Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 "Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"

We were saved from all sins, past sins, present sins, and future sin the second we believed Paul's Gospel to the Gentiles during the age of grace. Which is: 1 Corinthians 15:3-4 "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:"