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The sabbath day is Saturday, and always has been from the time God created the world, through the Bible old and new Testament time periods Jesus and the apostles observed Saturday.

I believe the Sunday sabbath keeping day change took place according to historic records attributed to Roman Emperor Constantine in A.D. 321. Thereafter adopted by the Catholic church, and then other churches along the way. It can easily be researched on the web.

Since God gave mankind the Saturday sabbath as a gift for us, and a commandment - the 4th, I will keep it holy along with the other 9 commandments.

God Bless.

Diane

Love your comments through the years. They are so spirt filled.

Sincerely

Leo

Why don't we take a break, studying and expound on the BOOK OF JOEL ?8

It's one you have to read slow with the Commentary. Bible verses related to Dreams And Visions:

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Joel 2:28 - And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Acts 2:17 - And it shall come to pass IN THE LAST DAYS, SAITH GOD, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

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Numbers 12:6 - And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.

Proverbs 29:18 - Where there is no vision, the people perish: but he that keepeth the law, happy is he.

Daniel 1:17 - As for these four children, God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.

Amos 3:7 - Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his SECRET unto his SERVANTS the prophets.

1 John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

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>> Top 2 verses say almost the same thing except in Acts it says Thus saith GOD. So if a prophet speaks Thus Saith The Lord; that had better of been from God and not the pizza you ate at 3am. God speaks to us by the Holy Spirit (which is the Spirit of Jesus).

He speaks and then we repeat; word for word. Write it down and date it.

I've found that the Book of Daniel goes forward and skips backward again. We have to hear the Holy Spirit teach that Book.

Mishael

When reading the Word & its use of this word, 'heaven', I see it applied in four ways:

a. the sky/atmosphere or troposphere & this goes to an altitude of approx. fifteen miles. Genesis 6:7, James 5:18 as examples.

b. the celestial (outer space) of planets, stars & constellations. Deuteronomy 4:19, Matthew 24:29.

c. the Place of God's Abode. Hebrews 8:1, Acts 7:56.

d. the new Heaven (& Earth) that is yet to come after all the corrupt Earth & Sky are dissolved. Isaiah 65:17, Revelation 21:1.

Posting here does not always retain our format/use of non alpha script. But we can easily see the clear distinction between the two personalities you gave. Thank you.

Does anyone know of any church that uses the 66 books of the Bible to teach from? Many claim to, but...

Also I prefer the KJV(1611) Bible as most other translations use different words or interpretations. I believe the Word of God should only be changed by God. I have faith the Holy Spirit will reveal, teach and/or guide.

I am also a Protestant. I have many Catholic friends and family that I pray for, but personally cannot align their beliefs with scripture.

I am not picking on anyone, or judging anyone, fot that is not my place. That is Jesus's domain. He claims to have many flocks and His offer is open to all who accept His grace, hear His voice, and follow His testimony.

My fear is not only are we loving in the Latter Days, but that we are living in the days when "they will search for the Word and shall not find it."

Am I alone?

I do not believe the Old Testament was "Nailed to the Cross". As previously mentioned, I believe in the Bible. The OT is full of prophecies that have not occurred.

I am seeking edification and seem to be outside of most church denomination "circles" now-a-days.

I love the Lord and spend countless hours studying and researching His word. But with the amount of knowledge doubling every 4 years, it is very hard to discern truth from fable.

I pray that I have not offended anyone, and if so, humbly ask for your forgiveness.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Blessings and Prayers.

Matthew 22:30

For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.

Mark 12:25

For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.

1 Corinthians 6:3 ..."we shall judge angels"

A: We will be transformed into spiritual beings. That carnal, fleshly sin nature will be gone. There's not going to be dating, betrothal or marriage.

B: Our spiritual nature will as one who desires to please God and worship Him.

Sorrow over those who chose death, over life eternal; will not be remembered.

C: we will not be of the Earth, earthly and carnal (of the Flesh). We're going to have bodies as the angels have bodies.

We will not struggle with desires, jealousy, ambitions etc.

D: Satan, other names such as; FATHER OF LIES, destroyer, deceit, murder, etc., will not be slinking around to trip us up with that old carnal nature. He's going to be locked up in hell for 1000 years. There is no mention of him having children, although There is mention of the son of perdition in a couple of places.

E. I don't know what we'll have on, "underneath our robes." There will not be marriage or child rearing. Our lives will be spiritual.

F: the way I understand it: the people who manage to be BORN AGAIN during the Tribulation and manage to survive without taking the Mark of the Beast or being destroyed: will be in heaven with their kids; have other children during the 1000 years;

They are going to be earthly. That's why satan is loosed a short time to see if the survivors can be tempted to fall away and follow Satan, instead of Jesus. They will not judge the angels.

I believe we will be able to do a bit of evangelizing and testifying in that 1000 year period. I believe we will not be angry because they are earthly, and we are spiritual beings.

That kinda shows us where we are with our earthly, carnal nature, now.

LDS? Do you mean SDA?

As a Baptist, how does it work out for you to attend your Fellowship on a Sunday? It must be a real problem then.

And you're right, there's no scriptural warrant to change the day to Sunday - it appears it was something that the early Church began to do ( Acts 20:7) - maybe in recognition & remembrance of their Saviour's resurrection. But I would be fine if someone wanted to worship on the Saturday, but it may be a lonely experience for them. When serving in Pakistan, I worshipped with believers there on a Friday - the point was that we did worship the Lord & we did it together in common love & faith.

Mishael, the Spirit grace us with his words, the beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire ( Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire) before Satan. Revelation 19 is describing those that are called to the marriage supper of the Lamb, one cannot be the bride of Christ without partaking of the marriage supper of the Lamb. Being invited to the Lamb's supper means one partakes of the lake of fire (for our God is a consuming fire). Luke 12:49 I (Spirit of God, in flesh) am come to send fire upon the earth (mankind); and what will I (the Spirit of God be) if it (fire) be already kindled? (vs) 50 But I (Spirit of God,in flesh) have a baptism (of fire) to be baptized with, and how am I (Spirit of God) straitened till it (baptism of fire) be accomplished! Matthew 3:11 ....he (Spirit of God) shall baptize you (children of Satan, everyone is a child of this world before they are born of the seed of the Spirit) with the Holy Ghost and with fire (our God is a consuming fire). Since the Spirit is eternal the fire is eternal. Revelation 21:8 But the fearful (were you once fearful), and unbelieving (were you once unbelieving), and murders (did you once hate you brothers) ....all liars (did you once lie). The Spirit graces us with the lake of fire Malachi 3:1 ....and the Lord whom ye seek, shall suddenly appear (at your rebirth) in his temple (you,the Spirits throne, heaven), (vs) 2 But who may abide the day of his coming? for he (the Spirit of truth) is like a refiners fire and fullers soap. Isaiah 4:4 When the Lord (Spirit) shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion.....by the spirit of judgement, and by the spirit of burning. (vs) 5 And the Lord (Spirit) will create (new birth) upon every dwelling place of mount Zion, and upon her assemblies, a cloud (like the cloud over the tabernacle in Moses day) by day , and the shining of a flaming fire by night...(and when the cloud moved the people moved and when cloud stood still the people stood still)

Thank you Richard. A great list of comparisons - Great Truths for us to praise God for.

Hello James.

Acts 16:30-32: "And (the prison guard) brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. And they spake unto him the word of the Lord, and to all that were in his house."

In this verse, Paul was speaking about those who were living with the guard at his house only (v32). Yet, Paul qualifies that salvation can only come when the Gospel is firstly preached & there is a subsequent belief & acceptance of Christ as their (personal) Saviour. Some believe in "household salvation" whereby the saving of the head of the house, means the automatic salvation of his family as well. Verses cited to support this belief is: the above verse you gave, Acts 2:38, 39 & 1 Cor 7:14. Yet, salvation can only come after each person reaching the age of accountability before God, personally hears, believes & puts their faith in Christ for their salvation. Hence the work with children (e.g. Child Evangelism Fellowship & others) are so very important because even the little ones need to hear & receive Christ.

So, even if one's family no longer resided in the family home & are not included in the meaning of verse 31, they are still personally responsible to respond to the Gospel as the Spirit of God moves them in that direction. I therefore understand Paul's instruction to the guard to mean that "not only you but also your whole family living with you can be saved by believing in Jesus".

Chris,

Thank you for your various responses.

I believe you are correct as to the speaker being Jeremiah up until ( Jeremiah 4:26).

I was wondering, though, if you believe that this is a portrayal of Israel's future punishment, the devastation of this particular punishment of earth covered in water, and no light from heaven, has not come to pass. Is this yet still a future punishment awaiting Israel? If so, then what do we do with God's covenant to Noah in Genesis 9:8-17?

As to the three earth and heaven ages, have you considered 2 Peter chapter 3.

5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

I believe this is reference to the 1st earth and heaven age, which ended by being "overflowed with water," i.e., becoming "without form, and void."

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

I understand this to be the 2nd heaven and earth age. Time present. From Genesis 1:2 on.

13 Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

I believe this is the 3rd heaven and earth age we are all looking forward to.

Heaven on earth ( Revelation 21:2)

Three heaven and earth ages; One heaven and one earth.

Concerning Satan, I would give reference to Job.

Satan I believe can be considered a "son of God," because he is referenced as being among them and with them to present himself to God in Job 1:6 and again in Job 2:1.

Satan is also included as being there with God when "the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy" ( Job 38:7) in reference to the creation of earth by God.

It seems as though Satan and the other angels may have been around before the creation of the earth itself.

Thanks,

EJL

Mishaeh, may the Spirit of grace reveal his truths to us, the Spirit of God, Jesus, told the Pharisees that they were the children of their Father the Devil, those of us, the children of resurrection are children of God. God (Spirit) and Satan (spirit) both produce seed; their seed (God and Satan) are multiplied in birthing children. May the Spirits grace us until we all come unto the unity of the faith.

It does not take much to mass anihilate this Bidy of Christ!.

It is The End-Times so line up to get your heads chopped off for Your faith!.

Though it be a simple coy!.

O.k. we get it!

All of The Body of Christ will line up to get their heads chopped off!

Just present a 666!

The computer chip is the 666!

Fight against this system!

Fake it out!

Ask GOD how to be wise as serpents!.

A false timing of actual End-Times can happen too!

Do whatever GOD wants You to do! Learn to hear from GOD and obey whatever GOD says for You to do!

Even if that is to hop on one leg while barking like a dog!

GOD has graceful reasons for any request of any of us ever! Negotiate with GOD too!

Let me say it this way...

I am not GOD, nor are You!

Let us let GID be GOD always in all matters!.

I submit this message to all that messaged me!

Not that this particular message is my reply. Tech topics. I use this particular message to me to say this.

How can each of us deal with The Great Tribulation topics?

How can each of us overcome such?

GOD will communicate to each of us in Christ, and then some! Obey GOD!

The Great Tribulation can manifest over and over again out if timing due to circumstances.

Add or subtract from The Book of Revelation and have such plagues or erased names from The Lamb's Book of Life!

Let us not all say it is the end and need to automatically line up to New World Order Style Concentration Camps!

Let all in the Body of Christ be wise as serpents too!.

Even if it is truly The End....Times...of only 1007 years left for life on earth...and for earth

May we The Body of Christ not just go to a mass holocaust based on current events of a Great Tribulation! It may not be The true Time of Such!

Much factors are involved in Suicide for a true Tribulation cause!

Is it really time to get Your head cut off?

No taking of a 666 ever! Understood!

Yet, some of Us in Christ are even drinking a beer with folks for GOD!

Just do what GOD says to do individually! Obey GOD!

Hi brother Duane,

Great question....Christians really need to be honest about this commandment.

Sabbath has always been on Saturday the 7th Day of the week. The sabbath began at the time God created the heavens and earth which took 6 days....God rested on the 7th day - the Sabbath. God gave man the sabbath day as the 4th commandment. Not only is it a commandment, God commands....it is also a "wonderful gift" to man, for mankind's use to experience a refreshing rest of mind and body. On this day we give thanks to God, and we spend the sabbath day in prayer, meditation, and reflection, and fellowship with others.

The roman emperor Constantine the Great changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday On March 7, A.D. 321, and issued the first civil Sunday law, compelling all the people in the Roman Empire, except farmers, to rest on Sunday - and not Saturday.

As true Christians, we should be observing all 10 Commandments, including the 4th commandment! Jesus speaks to keeping the commandments below.....

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

How powerful is One in Christ? Or Two in Christ?

What powers do we have being in Christ?

Manipulative prayers or gross stewardship of The Euphrates River also causes pre mature birthing pangs of Jesus Christ's Second Coming that we all need to live through ever!

Repent Body of Christ in being white witches ever! Repent in being oblivious!

REPENT ALL IN THE BODY of CHRIST! Obey GOD only in all matters, let GOD be GOD for none of us are GOD, in Christ Folks or any are GOD ever!

What does GOD have to say on all matters is what counts! We can input to GOD, yet, GOD is The Final Say!

Thank You All for Your Comments!

We iron sharpening iron together! We to be One in Christ! Right? Without deception ever so help Us GOD! Ever!

All comments from All of You are respected by me.

My point is that all in Christ are powerful! Misuse of Such Power brings such atrocity!

To even pandemics and even slaughters of mass numbers based on even false timings of End-Times!

Not that they are not End-Times in truth, yet displaced frames of such replayed over and over again!

When it is The True Time for The End-Times, will The Body of Christ need to live through them?

Be prepared to ever, even if displaced timing of multitude times of living out The Actual End-Times Events over and over again based on adding to or subtracting from The Book of Revelation! Ministers and Rabbi agreed and taught that we are in The End!

You want it You got it says GOD, ever!

Romans 1, teaches that we ALL have the ability (given to us by God, from creation), to comprehend that SOMEONE made everything that we see, smell, taste, hear and feel.

Somehow we know it didn't crawl out of the ooze and become something. People try to burn our minds and teach us that we did. But our hearts tell us that Someone greater than we are, made all of this.

Thinking that we are all powerful and can exceed what we already know, sounds to me like what Satan boasts: I will, I will, I will, be greater than the Most High God.

Willing it does not make it so!

Normal intelligence should comprehend the existence of God. If we refuse to acknowledge it; then A CHOICE has been made. We all will live or die, eternally, on that hearts decision. We're human, and can change our minds at any point.

Cares of this life crowd in and take over, or destroy the consciousness of God the Creator: the One who loves our soul.

We are choosing Life or Death, every day. Things we speak to ourselves or to others, is either Life giving or Death, every day.

Everyday we awake and have to choose to Live or Die, spiritually.

A whole lifetime of good choices is what makes old age and approaching end of life, a happy thing. You stop resisting God, and fall into His open arms without hesitations.

You have no comprehension right now, the sheer NUMBERS of people that have already made this trip through life. They made a choice. They have to accept the Result of that Choice. Heaven or Hell?

Going to heaven on Good Deeds only; is a LIE that Satan got a lot of good people, entrance into hell. Unfortunately for them, they Chose to reject the free offer of Salvation from the Son of God, Jesus Christ.

This TIME IN HISTORY is no different. The age of Communication and Knowledge has increased! The Gospel of Jesus Christ is preached in Every form of Media. What do YOU listen to, watch, or read??

We Are Without Excuse. We cant argue

Our Way out of bad choices.

Everyone is responsible for their own soul to GOD! My Mom taught me this!

Everyone is responsible to GOD for any actions ever, or no actions, by ommission or commission of any sin!

GOD is GOD and none other is!

Learn to hear from GOD and obey GOD in any matters always!

This then solves all, no matter what!

Got a problem with my obedience to GOD in any matters, go talk to GOD!

May i be doing exactly what GOD wants, in any matter, so help me GOD too!

This is applicable to The Body of Christ Members uniquely too!

To Whom has been given much, much is expected from too!

Ask GOD! Obey GOD!

Be always prepared to go through The Great Tribulation, You and Your Loved Ones, in false timing or not!

There may be no rapture until Jesus Christ returns Folks! Prepare!

In John Chapter 20, they worshipped, and it was not the Sabbath.

The rudeness of people to say that we will not be in The Great Tribulation to not ask seek, and knock to GOD to prepare ourselves and loved ones and all to possibly go through it!

The rudeness of mankind to insist on The Great Tribulation to happen ever before GOD The Father wants, ever, based on mankind's stewardship of The Euphrates River!

The rudeness of white witchcraft prayers of folks in Christ in anyone's life in any matter insisting in prayer an outcome on such at all based on power of that One in Christ! How many have been oppressed based on Those in Christ insisting on Their Own to outcome in any situation of a person's life, or nation, to even The preMature manifestation of The Great Tribulation over and over again in world-wide lives?

The power of One in Christ can also be so destructive to so many and to GOD'S Perfect Plans on any matter!

Is this pandemic a consequence if such manipulative prayers from those in Christ to bring forth The Wrath of GOD world-wide to repentance? Is this a consequence of ...we are GID above GOD in our powers in Christ to do what we so say needs to be done?

Prayers of The Wrath of GOD to be on America and then some for repentance by those in Christ! As the wife of a Pastor said that we too would need to go through such wrath too then!

Misuse of GOD stuff hurts many including themselves ever!

GOD will not submit yo any of creation ever to relinquish GOD being GOD to any!

Test it!

You want End-Times events folks in Christ, then You got it per GOD! Enjoy! Yet, really was it true timing of GOD? Play GOD folks! GOD still will be GOD still!

GOD is GOD and none other is ever!

What does GOD want from any of us any time? Please do that! If all do what GOD wants, then we have no misuse of The Euphrates River or not prepared for The anti-Christ reign by any ever!

Just learn to hear from GOD and do what GOD wants ever, for the best interests of all creation!

Almighty GOD'S perfect will be done in all matters!

No, I didn't mean that.

To not be prepared for being in The Great Tribulation, per teachings on a rapture and You are omitted from living through The Great Tribulation is rude. Unprepared You go through it.

To instigate false timing of The Great Tribulation by not great stewardship of The Euphrates River is rude too!

To pray for wrath upon any Great Tribulation style for repentance, is rude too!

As Abraham Lincoln prayed, May Almighty GOD'S Perfect Will be done only and always in all matters! Right?

Why stimulate a birthing pang before its time of The Second Coming of Christ, falsely, by letting The Euphrates River to be unprotected of its use at all, or its Ice or snow melts to supply to it?

How can we in Christ ensure that any wrath of GOD or consequences of plagues or names being wiped out of The Lamb's Book of Life by not simply praying beyond understanding, that GOD The Father's Perfect Will be done regarding any End-Time event to happen, ever, by only The True Desires of Him ever?

Emptying out The Euphrates River at all is line inducing labor of a child!

Do all that we can to insist on only Abba, Father's Will be done on The End-Times topic of only a thousand plus 7 or so years to remain on earth or earth to exist at all!

Let GOD enjoy GOD'S Perfect Story of Life!

Creator to creation relationship applies!

GOD is beyond us, so surrender to GOD!

Submit to GOD alone in all matters!

Obey GOD Alone in all matters!

Learn to hear from GOD, so that You can obey GOD'S orders to You uniquely.

This didn't come up the way I posted It. As it was separated. Hopefully you can read through the lines denoting which one is which. Sorry for any confusion.

look a the passage went the angels are getting Lot out sodoma and gomorra

What is the 3 heavens

Comments by Alex about being bornagain of an incorruptible seed EVEN BY THE WORD OF GOD that heavenly bloodline of Christ as we have borne the image of the earthly (our adamic nature ) we must also bear the image of the heavenly ( the nature of CHRIST ) THAT Promise seed a new innerman which is the H.G.( THIS IS REPLACEMENT THEOLOGY BY BEING BORNAGAIN WE REPLACE OUR OLD MAN by that new heart and new spirit the H.G. Not circumcision nor uncircumcision but a new creature which is the H.G. new to us but old to God as Jesus said they will bring forth things out of their hearts new and old.When Jesus told Nic. a jew he had to be bornagain inorder to enter the kingdom thats replacement theology we replace the old man with a newman.Our old man was in rank with satan.Paul was preaching replacement theology when he said its not i that live but but Christ that lives with in me,Saul was replaced but Paul. Just as the old covenant was replaced by the new covenant.If perfection came under the levitical Priesthood what was the need for another priesthood after the order of Melchizedek this was replacement theology. There was none righteous no not one thus the need for a new covenant by the blood of CHRIST.Jesus said outa of the hearts of MAN proceeds all manner of evil, thus the need for a new covenant. what Jesus did at calvary is gona make us all replacement,The H.G. is our replacement, our new innerman which is Christ in us the hope of glory,But Jesus does not do away with the Jewish ppl as all men will be washed in his blood, we will all be bornagain as Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains in the end at the lake of fire which is his baptism of fire that all men will go thru. Who shall abide the day of his coming, Who shall stand when he appears for he shall be as a refiners fire and fullers soap,He is asking a question (WHO) impling WHO WILL ESCAPE THE LAKE OF FIRE,The wraft of the lamb, th blood WHO? implies nobody is gona escape the blood of the lamb.2 ND ADAM.

A young lady, honry, said to me when i was pregnant for the first time, that it will not hurt at all when i have my baby. She had one.

My Mom said to me, after i told Her what this young lady said, my Mom said to me in the most serious of tone to me that when i have my baby it will be the worst pain that i have experienced. I would have gone unprepared for this pain of having my first baby. I sought out methods to endure that time.

People have said that we will not go through The Great Tribulation, per a rapture, etc.

It is going to be extreme! To say the least, prepare! Ask GOD! Obey GOD!

People have prayed for The Wrath of GOD on America to repent. A wife of a Pastor said that we would have to go through that Wrath too then!

Prepare fir The Worst of Life happenings during Tbe Great Tribulation, for it may be You and Your Loved Ones that may go through it!