Confessing to the Church is not only not necessary, but a blasphemy. Seeking forgiveness and absolution of sins from the Church rather than God.
There is only one mediation between God and man; the atonement made by the man Jesus Christ.
-- 1 Timothy 2:5 KJV For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN, THE MAN CHRIST JESUS;
People remain in false religious beliefs as they are fearful of standing alone, of losing family and friends not willing to give all to gain Christ Jesus. They feel safe and secure being in bondage to the laws of the "Church". Christianity is an individual religion, standing alone, hopefully within the brotherhood of others standing alone, steadfast in the faith.
-- 1 Corinthians 16:13 KJV Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong.
-- 2 Timothy 2:1 KJV Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.
It takes great moral strength to remain meek, patient, kind, charitable, in every situation maintaining your trust in the Lord. You only have to contend with one.
-- Hebrews 10:31 KJV It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
-- 1 John 1:9 KJV If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Day 27 January 27,2025 Matthew 5:14-16 KJV Being a Light West Angeles Church Consecration Calendar
I pray for boldness to reflect God's love and truth to others.
Matthew 5:14 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
" Jesus Christ is life on earth how to live John 8:12 KJV
God's word la has to be done to all the world.
Matthew 5:15 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY :
" To believe in Jesus Christ laws, rule amd rules to get what you want. To believe when you die you will go to heaven and not he'll. 1 Corinthians 15:34 KJV Romans 10:10 KJV
Jesus Christ is power and effectual. Example House of Prayer Luke 19:46 KJV. Candles lighted by the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I believe and God has done for me Ephesians 6:15 KJV giving me peace.
Offered your heart to God. God wants you to be married.
Words you say and believe to actions to be and get reality.
Ways you can be and get what you want-reality. are listen to God's voice amd word to obey, follow, "do it" in speaking , actions, attention of communications.
Example liked by God and preferred by Christian Church named titled disciple.
Disciple definition-Showing the holy bible as life.
Matthew 5:16 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
" Light shine can also be the revelation of Jesus Christ given to youAlways performaning righteousness, holiness in actions "to do it" of God. To have faith, hope, love.". 1 John 1:2 KJV
I have working history of evangelism street outreach , open Leading Pulpit Prayer hour at Christian Church, Open Teaching Sunday School and Mid-Week bible study service showing Jesus Christ Is God written material inviting men Romans 10:9-10 KJV to all religions-Principle holy. Minister - John 1:14 and with accounting.
John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
Matthew 19:16 "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?"
Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness ( 1 John 1:9).
When Jesus was on earth, as He healed and forgave sins He told them to "go and sin no more". Once you surrender your life totally (with heart mind and soul) to God, He will send you the comforter (Holy Spirit) that will work in and through you to help you do what God ask of you. John 14:15,16 says. "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;".
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1 John 2:1-6
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
Calvinism relies on telling a few clever lies to convince their followers of their distorted teaching. The Bible itself refutes their ideology in the following examples:
Did Jesus die for all, yes or no?
1 John 2:2 says YES
John 3:16 says YES
1 Timothy 2:4-6 says YES
2 Corinthians 5:14 says YES
Romans 10:13 says YES
1 John 4:14 says YES
But Calvinists say NO
Scripture saying Jesus did NOT die for all:
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The Word of God says Jesus died for "all" and the "whole world" and "everyone" in those verses above. All means all, and the whole world means the whole world, and everyone means everyone. But cult teachings will try to twist this and say all does NOT mean all, and the whole world does NOT mean the whole world, and everyone does NOT mean everyone. It's like the serpent in the Garden of Eden who said you shall NOT surely die. It's obvious who is on what side by how they either affirm or denounce the scripture.
Those who disobey and intentionally deceive others from the truth put themselves in grave danger of God's wrath.
The 2nd big lie told by some is that people don't have freewill to do anything whatsoever. Some contradict themselves by saying they still sin but isn't their fault, while others say they don't sin at all and are perfect like Jesus, an obvious lie that 1 John 1:8 makes clear. Verses like Joshua 24:15 that say for you to choose (Calvinists deny this means you're not choosing) or for you to open the door (Calvinists deny this means you're opening the door) Revelation 3:20 , John 7:17.
The biggest lie I hear many say about others- they claim others are trying to EARN their own salvation. That lie is straight from Satan. They know its a lie but will spread it anyway. They know that 99% of Christians believe in grace and believe it is a gift, not earned. But just because they believe God gave them a gift of choice like Joshua 24:15 says, they suddenly claim their motives are to "earn" heaven. So dishonest. Beware of wolves!
These are dangerous waters but now that I've entered into this topic I want to continue to get as much across as deemed necessary to help those out there going through spiritual battles. I am not worthy; O Lord but how can I not exhort others knowing what is out there and what I have gone through in the past?
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. ( 1 John 1:9).
The accuser of our souls has a favorite tactic of entrapping us in sins then enveloping us in fear through accusation and other unpleasant thoughts in our minds. I won't go into the whole list of things here but if you study UFO abductions you see just how awful these things can be. The name of Jesus of course properly executed brings an end to such suffering in many of these situations.
In deliverance whether possession or oppression we must be certain repentance is sought after. Jesus warned about a house being cleaned and 7 demons worse then the first coming to roost ( Matt. 12:45). What does this mean exactly?
THe context with the Pharisees cleaning their outer selves (cups; etc) is likely alluded to here as the wickedness of that generation in general was excoriated. They just finished saying that it was Satan that Jesus was using to cast out demons; the unforgiveable sin. We can't exclude the possibility that a demon may leave from time to time even with an unsaved person as we see with Saul when David played the music as a possible example. Trying to clean our own selves apart from God is the idea; further bolstered by those invoking His name (7 sons of Sceva in Acts) and the demon not recognizing Christ in them and the subsequent result.
In terms of casting out a demon something I consider a necessary task for any Spirit filled believer although some no doubt would dispute that at any rate requres a serious walk in the Spirit. This work isn't for amateurs.
John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
Matthew 19:16 "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?"
Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
Brother Jesse, thank you. Wow, your reply is already off the discussion page. When I responded and said no, I will not walk away, I should have included that if I continue to abide in Christ as in John 15:6-7, then I am secure. You say a true believer will not fall away, and I agree, but to me, one who continues to abide in Christ is a true believer, and the Holy Spirit will strengthen them to endure until the end if we walk in the Spirit.
Should we ask what salvation truly is? Is it a one-time event, as it is often strongly preached today, 2 Timothy 4:3-4, or is it a lifelong journey? I see salvation as encompassing the past, present, and future. When we accept Jesus through faith, our past sins are forgiven, we are justified by faith, declared innocent of sin, and covered with a white garment, clean and pure.
We then begin a lifetime of sanctification, becoming more like Christ, and we must continually repent of our sins, walking in the Spirit to keep our garments spotless, as 1 John 1:9 states. I believe this is why there are so many warnings that we must endure, to overcome, and keep our garments spotless. We must maintain our garments, which signify a lifelong relationship with Jesus through the Holy Spirit on the way to our glorification when we are resurrected.
Our robes are made white not by us but, Revelation 7:14, unrepentant sin defiles, Revelation 3:4-5, staying steadfast in our faith, Revelation 16:15. This is lifelong; we are to be faithful until our death, Revelation 2:10, Revelation 12:11. There is a reason for these many warnings; we should at least ask why.
In John 14:6 Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth, AND THE LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
When we recieve Christ we recieved LIFE!
We recieve Christ Spirit! ( A LIFE GIVING SPIRIT)
Christ Spirit cannot die!
We have been baptized by the Holyspirit into eternal life! We have eternal life now.
Eternal NEVER ENDS!
We were baptized into his death.
Our old man is crucified with him, he can never hurt us with our standing with the Lord!
We stumbled in these corrupt bodies every day! Even in thought!
And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1 John 2:1
1 John 1:8 says "If WE say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
John is talking to saved people! Not someone who has lost their salvation!
John included himself! (WE)
There will never be a time here in this world where you will ever have no sin.
So if anyone can lose Christ/Salvation then no one was ever saved and never will be.
You also see the work of Christ as our advocate in Romans 4:6-8.
Romans 4:6-8 reads, "Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord WILL NOT IMPUTE SIN.
We're covered with Christ righteousness!
It's the heart that has changed in a true believer.
There is no desire to sin.
It grieves Christ Spirit that we now possess.
We're forever changing in the likeness of Christ but we will never be perfect until we are delivered from this body of this death.
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1 John 1:10
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
we are goanna sin daily and no one is perfect or without sin. If we could live a life sin free, God would not have sent his only son to die for us.
I understand we can't live however we want to and practice our sin. For the spirt is willing but the flesh is weak.
They do not know, nor do they understand; They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are unstable. ( Psalm 82:5).
For the believer; the opposite is the case as 1 John 1:5 states in "Him there is no darkness at all." These two verses along with similar cross references summarizes the state of the world vs those who know the Lord and hence are in the world but not of it ( John 17:16). In a broader sense it also defines those who are trapped in this world system and can't see beyond it and those who are "rapture ready" and will be delivered soon; that are currently "seated in heavenly places" according to Ephesians 2:6.
Isaiah 8:22 shows the condition of those left behind in the Tribulation: And they shall look unto the earth; and behold trouble and darkness, dimness of anguish; and they shall be driven to darkness. At that time some will cry out to God and be heard; others not. We can look to God's chosen people in Exodus 2:23; many passages in Psalms; etc. but we are warned ( Micah 3:4).
Jeremiah 7:16 even shows a passage where the Prophet was not to pray for His own people as judgment was set forth; and the Tribulation will also be with judgments already predetermined according to the seal; trumpet and vial judgments decided in the Divine council. Nonetheless, it will bring forth a "countless multitude" according to Revelation 7:9 and the complete fulfillment of Joel 2 started at Pentecost with many "signs and wonders" on the earth as well as dreams and visions coming to men and women everywhere.
Again; Daniel reminds us in the 12th chapter that only the wise will understand; not the wicked ( Daniel 12:10). We can only work now to fulfill the Great Commission and "occupy until He comes" ( Luke 19:13) but once the Rapture occurs the "gig" is up as it were; and men will have to be given strong delusion by God because of their love for evil ( 2 Thess. 2:11). Let us preach the truth and love God with our whole heart; mind and soul dutifly.
Thank you for your reply, I certainly do not mind. I understand that this subject is delicate, and I am blessed to have brothers and sisters on this site willing to discuss it. Revelation is a challenging book, and I am looking forward to Jesse getting through it.
You have listed some exciting verses, and I hope to share my thoughts on them and your post, not to determine who may be right, but rather to view the discussion as a nudge to pray and study. On the verses you listed, John 12:49-50, Jesus is saying the Father gave Him a commandment and what the Father told Him to say, Jesus was obedient.
John 8:28-29, the Pharisees were debating with Jesus who He was, and He said that in verse 28-29 when He is lifted up/crucified, they will know who He is. We see in Matthew 28:54 when Jesus died and those things that happened, the centurion and those who were there greatly feared and said, "Truly this was the Son of God.
John 7:16-19, the gospels, reveal the glory of the Father who sent Jesus; all that Jesus did was accomplished by the Father through the Holy Spirit, with which Jesus was anointed without measure.
In John 4:34, John 5:19, John 5:30, and John 8:26 all say that it is the Father, not Him, on in John 14:10 Jesus was in the Father and the Father was in Him this was from the time Jesus was anointed without measure the Holy Spirit when He was baptized and made the Messiah.
Jesus was and is the Word of God; John 1:14. God was in the flesh in Jesus through the Holy Spirit, just like these verses say. The beginning in John, many understand it as the beginning of creation, my understanding is the beginning of Jesus' ministry, as we see in Mark 1:1, Luke 1:2, and 1 John 1:1.
To me, Jesus was the first in the plan of God, Revelation 3:14, and everything was created in Jesus, not by Him, and all was created for Jesus and the purpose of the Father. Revelation 13:8 and 1 Peter 1:18-21.
1 John 1:10 - If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
If we say that we have not sinned, and that's what is called a Perfect Tense. That is, you have never sinned up to this point, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. What does that mean? Paul says all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
We have all of the Old Testament scriptures that talk about the corruption of man and the sinfulness of man, and all of the New Testament scriptures that talk about man's sin, the total depravity of man. And some of the Gnostics said "I've never sinned. It was my body, not me!"
If we say that we have not sinned, we're making God a liar because God says in His word, you're a sinner. And if you say you have not sinned, His word is not in you. You're not saved!
1 John 1:6 - If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
How would you like to have somebody call you a liar? You say you have fellowship with God, and that you believe in God, and that you belong to God, but in your life, you're walking in darkness. The word walk in the Greek text shows a continuous action. You're not practicing the truth. You're not walking continuously in the truth.
So, if you say with your mouth that you have fellowship with God, but your life is in darkness, you're lying. You're not having fellowship with God at all. It might be church. It might be bible study. But you're not having fellowship with God if you're walking in sin, walking in darkness.
1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
What the Gnostics used to do is that they would say all physical is evil. Therefore, my physical body is evil, and there's nothing I can do about it. And I'm not going to be judged for any sin that it does. So, they would say to "Just party it up. Live it up. You're not responsible for what your physical body does. You are spirit. And your physical body is evil, and once you die it will be gone, and then you get to go to heaven."
And they take part of truth and combine it with some "special knowledge," and they come up with corruption. But if you say you have no sin (presently, right now), in other words you say "Well, the blood of Jesus Christ does not need to continuously cleanse me when I have fellowship, because I don't have sin," yes you do! We deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. The Lord is in the ministry of cleansing and forgiving us for all of our sins. That's His ministry!
1 John 1:5 - This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
This then is the message which we have heard from Him, and we declare to you. So, this is a teaching of Christ, the incarnate one that he just mentioned. That God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
This is one of the most important doctrines in the whole bible. With God, there is no shade. There's no dark corner. There's no darkness anywhere with God. So, if you understand that Jesus came and said, "I am the light of the world," He came to enlighten us as to who God is, and our need for a Savior in Christ, and who we are.
Once I receive Jesus Christ, I now have the light of God living inside of me. And I can sleep at night. It doesn't keep me up. But everything that I do, everything that I think, and every place that I go, I'm going in the light. There isn't any place that I can go that I am not in His light. I can go find a dark place in an alley somewhere where nobody can see me, but God's light, His Spiritual light is on.
The difference between a believer and non-believer is that a believer commits acts of sin, whereas a non-believer lives a lifestyle of sin. The reason you and I commit acts of sin but can no longer live a lifestyle of sin, is because our life is in the light.
When we sin, we are sinning in the light. And God's Spirit convicts us. And He brings us to confession and repentance before Him. The person that doesn't know the Lord is in the darkness, spiritual darkness. They have no conviction of their sin. So, they can live a lifestyle of sin. But what a concept. God is light. And there is no darkness in Him at all, none!
1 John 1:2 - (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
For the life, and notice it doesn't say the word of life. It says for the life, and that would be Christ. In John 14:6, Jesus said I am the way, the truth, and the life. The life was manifested. That means He appeared. And we have seen, and we are bearing witness, and we show, or literally we declare unto you that eternal life, and basically in Chapter 5, Jesus Christ is said to be the eternal God and He is eternal life. And if you have Christ, you have eternal life.
It says we declare unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;
So right away, in the first two verses, he's presenting the fact that he is an eyewitness account of the physical presence, and the ministry of the eternal God who is now in human form. And he (John) was there!
1 John 1:4 - And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
The word full is what is called the Perfect Tense which means a condition. It's a continuous condition of having your joy full. And remember I shared that the word joy in Greek is the Greek way of expressing satisfaction.
Some people apply it to the human and talk about "happiness" and "bubbly joy" that we're supposed to have all of the time. But it's not applied to the flesh. This is for the spirit to be satisfied at its fullness. So, he says to have fellowship with Christ, and with us. And then secondly, that you'll be satisfied with Him so that you don't chase after the other things.
1 John was written by the apostle John (not John the Baptist). John wrote the gospel of John 1, 2, 3 John, and Revelation. John wrote 1, 2 and 3 John to the churches of Asia Minor, written to combat the beginnings of Gnosticism. Gnostics claimed to have "special knowledge" from God that no one else had. Gnosticism comes from the Greek word GNOSIS which means knowledge.
In 1 John, he is presenting the humanity of Jesus Christ, that is, the human form that God came in. I believe the correct doctrine of Jesus Christ is the He is 100% God, and 100% man, when He came.
1 John 1:1 - That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
These phrases "from the beginning," are not the same phrase that's in John 1:1 in the gospels, where it says in the beginning. In the beginning, in John's gospel, it is making reference to the time of creation. In 1 John, 2 John, and 3 John, he's making reference to the beginning of the ministry of Christ here on the earth. From the beginning is different than in the beginning.
That which was from the beginning, when Christ's ministry began, which we have heard (physically and audibly), and this is a Perfect Tense verb. We literally have heard Him speak, which we have seen with our eyes, with all the physical senses we experienced Christ, which we have looked upon, and in the Greek text, that's the word where we get our word theater from. We viewed Him for three years.
And our hands handled, concerning the Word of life; We touched Him. He was physical. We saw Him. We heard Him. Now this term word of life is a very interesting study in and of itself. In the King James text, the word "word" is capitalized. But in 1 John, John is not making reference to the word being Jesus Christ. He's making reference to the message about life, and that life is God come in human form.
How is sin different for those who are born again?
Hebrews 12:6 and many other like passages make it clear that God chastises everyone he loves. How does this operate?
When we consider that sanctification is only for this life and our death brings completion; as it were as we see in 1 Corinthians Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. ( 1 Corinthians 3:12-13 and other verses in that passage).
Given this context it is clear that God will use sin to develop our character. Again as I have enumerated very frequently on my posts it is our sin nature which is the origin of outer manifestations. Giving a simple illustration that which we are born in determines how we develop. Those TRULY saved will have a new nature and the old one has received its death blow but clearly we are subject to sin; as 1 John 1:8-10.
The greater question that often comes up is how Christ died for all of our sins "past present and future" then how can sin matter or even exist as it did before we are saved? Of course ALL sin at the time Christ died was future on our behalf. The Lord can see us as we will appear due to the eventual inevitable outcome; or perhaps better put despite ourselves. We see in verses such as the one in Corinthians already referred to that once in God's presence there is an instant judgment as He cannot look onto sin; and we can't stand in His presence without the refinement being made complete. Thus we should seek to work on things now rather than suffer great loss then since none of us know how much time we have left on earth.
Lamentations 3:22 says It is of the LORD'S mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not. In this passage we see the events at the fall of Israel despite the years of warning Jeremiah gave. This is an example of corporate sin; but God's faithfulness to His covenants eventually
now that i "know" christ's love Ephesians 2:19 Corinthians 3:4-7 and the whole book of Colossians
Shall we analyse?
Remember the song
Christ is the portrait of God - Colossians 1:15
Before he was born
He did justice and in himself he died
Supremacy and thrones are
They are yours - Colossians 1: 16-17
And that thread that broke
From my soul to God - Colossians 1:21
The holy blood sewed
Christ and his lines of love - Colossians 1: 20
And now a man made I
Can in man see God
Have peace, live, walk and be
Made me a friend in his pouring out - John 15:15
When we were targets of God's wrath now we have Peace with God - Romans 5:1
I have a doubt that you probably theologians (formal or deep self-taught), show me if there is something I missed.
to go to church or not to go to church?
1 Thessalonians 5:11, 1 Peter 4:9, Psalms 133:1-3, Galatians 5:13. all these chapters do not speak of the church that is of my generation, Hebrews 10:24-25 this verse speaks of the mutual congregation.
continuing Romans 12:10, Ephesians 4:32, Acts 2:41-47, 1 John 1:6-7, 2 Corinthians 13:11, 1 Peter 1:22, Colossians 3:16, Philippians 2:1-2, John 13:34, Ecclesiastes 4:9-12, Psalm 55:14. I keep reading and re-reading Romans 12 and I wonder if it's in everyday life or gathered with the church.
Hi Alana. How to Jesus Christ to forgive you? 1 John 1:9 IF we confess our sins HE is FAITHFUL and JUST to FORGIVE us our sins and CLEANSE us from ALL unrighteousness.
Thanks for posting this series on the Last Supper Discourse.
In Part 2 you said several ideas that I don't find supported by the text or the teachings of Scripture concerning Jesus Christ.
In the passage that speaks of "giving eternal life" it states that Jesus was given power and authority by the Father AND that "he" (Jesus) gives eternal life. It is true that it is God who gives eternal life, but Scripture states clearly that both the Father and the Son, Jesus Christ give eternal life --- John 10:28; 1 John 5:11-13; 20; John 6:27, 54; 1 John 1:2.
John 17:2
"even as You (the Father) gave Him (Jesus, the Son)authority over all flesh, that to all whom You (the Father) have given Him (Jesus), He (Jesus)may give eternal life."
When we look at the truth of this verse it clearly states that Jesus give eternal life to all the Father gives Him.
To say of this verse that it is the Father who gives life is not exegeting this verse properly and it diminishes the deity of Jesus.
Also, you state that it was through the Holy Spirit that Jesus knew the Father's will and what to say. But this is not what Scriptures say. In John 14:31 it says that Jesus does all that the Father commands Him (Jesus) to do. No mention of the Holy Spirit here. John 5:19 says that Jesus does all that He sees the Father do. So He knows what the Father's will is and what God is says and does through His own divinity and not through the Holy Spirit.
In His human nature, Jesus relied on the Holy Spirit to be obedient to the Father, but His divinity, being unified with the Father and the Holy Spirit, knew all the will of God, all that the Father does, all that the Father says.
John 10:15 says that "even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep."
To speak as though Jesus needed the Holy Spirit to know what He was to do or say denies His divinity and oneness with the Father. See part 2
Hi Jingledue. Since this Site has temporarily altered how responses to questions are viewed, I'll quote a part of your question so you know that this is directed to it. "As a Christian, is it wrong to still consider myself a sinner saved by grace?"
No, it is not wrong to believe that your are "a sinner saved by grace", even though this phrase is not used in the Bible. As you know, in the Church today we use phrases or words to describe a Truth that is evident in the Bible but not the actual words used. Ephesians 2:8,9 is the Scripture that reflects the phrase "a sinner saved by grace". We could say the same about the Triune Nature of God (otherwise, referred to as the Trinity): where there are many verses that describe this profound Nature yet not using that word, Trinity (e.g. Matthew 28:19; John 17:3-5; 1 John 1:1-3; etc.). We use the word 'Rapture', which is derived from the Latin form from the Greek, which means 'to seize or to snatch' (e.g. 1 Thessalonians 4:16,17). So, there's nothing wrong with using words or phrases not found in the Bible, as long as it correctly & clearly expresses a biblical Truth. But if someone is against using such words or phrases, then I would be equally comfortable in using the direct biblical quotations in lieu.
But the main point of Ephesians 2:8,9 is that our salvation is all of God's Grace & Mercy afforded us - nothing we have done or ever can do could replace or even complement God's Work for us and in us. It is truly God's Gift to us - and a gift cannot be received in exchange for something else, or else it's no longer a gift.
Was Jesus in heaven before creation? My understanding is no. Many will say Jesus is part of a Triune God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, three distinct persons, all co-equal, and co-eternal so that would put Him in heaven before creation.
God is a Spirit John 4:24, so if Jesus were in heaven His form would be Spirit. Are there verses on their own that would support the Trinity, yes. But we must keep a verse in context and compare it to other Scriptures about the same subject and not start with the answer, or a preconceived idea. We should let the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit give us the answer and meaning.
A few thoughts. In John 1:1 what beginning is John referring to, the beginning of creation or the beginning of Jesus's ministry, when He was anointed with the Holy Ghost becoming the Messiah, Matthew 4:16-17. We see the same introduction in 1 John 1:1 and others. In Revelation 19:13 Jesus's name is called the Word of God is that saying Jesus is God?
God was manifested in Jesus through the Holy Spirit, 1 John 1:1, Luke 4:18, John 14:10. The life eternal that was with God was manifested on earth through Jesus that we may fellowship with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ 1 John 1:2-7.
I will not go on and on but to me, there is one problem the Trinity doctrine creates I cannot find an answer.
God is perfect and cannot change, in the doctrine that would be the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The law was made for man and a man had to fulfill it. A man who could sin had to live a perfect life without sin to pay the penalty. Jesus did and paid the penalties for sin with His death. God cannot die and God cannot sin nor can He be tempted James 1:13, so He could not fulfill the law. Jesus was born without sin as the first Adam but could sin, the first Adam was not obedient and sinned. The last Adam, Jesus, was obedient to the Father and sinned not Romans 5:19. If God sacrificed Himself John 3:16 is not true.
There is only one mediation between God and man; the atonement made by the man Jesus Christ.
-- 1 Timothy 2:5 KJV For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN, THE MAN CHRIST JESUS;
People remain in false religious beliefs as they are fearful of standing alone, of losing family and friends not willing to give all to gain Christ Jesus. They feel safe and secure being in bondage to the laws of the "Church". Christianity is an individual religion, standing alone, hopefully within the brotherhood of others standing alone, steadfast in the faith.
-- 1 Corinthians 16:13 KJV Watch ye, stand fast in the faith, quit you like men, be strong.
-- 2 Timothy 2:1 KJV Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.
It takes great moral strength to remain meek, patient, kind, charitable, in every situation maintaining your trust in the Lord. You only have to contend with one.
-- Hebrews 10:31 KJV It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
-- 1 John 1:9 KJV If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Mat I ask what does fall away means to you?
Are you saying this person abandoned or now reject the Christian faith?
You will find different options on someone falling away.
My understanding is if you recieved Christ you can't get rid of him.
If this person has truly received Christ and fell into some sort of sin then 1 John 1:9 would be adequate.
"If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
You said "for a while is what worries me.
That should cause one to examine themself.
God won't let his children continue in sin.
There's others here that can help but it might take some opening up on your part.
Blessings.
I pray for boldness to reflect God's love and truth to others.
Matthew 5:14 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY:
" Jesus Christ is life on earth how to live John 8:12 KJV
God's word la has to be done to all the world.
Matthew 5:15 KJV
My Interpetation REDAPPLETREATY4MEONLY :
" To believe in Jesus Christ laws, rule amd rules to get what you want. To believe when you die you will go to heaven and not he'll. 1 Corinthians 15:34 KJV Romans 10:10 KJV
Jesus Christ is power and effectual. Example House of Prayer Luke 19:46 KJV. Candles lighted by the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
I believe and God has done for me Ephesians 6:15 KJV giving me peace.
Offered your heart to God. God wants you to be married.
Words you say and believe to actions to be and get reality.
Ways you can be and get what you want-reality. are listen to God's voice amd word to obey, follow, "do it" in speaking , actions, attention of communications.
Example liked by God and preferred by Christian Church named titled disciple.
Disciple definition-Showing the holy bible as life.
Matthew 5:16 KJV
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" Light shine can also be the revelation of Jesus Christ given to youAlways performaning righteousness, holiness in actions "to do it" of God. To have faith, hope, love.". 1 John 1:2 KJV
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John 5:14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.
1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
Matthew 19:16 "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?"
Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
Blessings
When Jesus was on earth, as He healed and forgave sins He told them to "go and sin no more". Once you surrender your life totally (with heart mind and soul) to God, He will send you the comforter (Holy Spirit) that will work in and through you to help you do what God ask of you. John 14:15,16 says. "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;".
8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
1 John 2:1-6
1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. 4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
Did Jesus die for all, yes or no?
1 John 2:2 says YES
John 3:16 says YES
1 Timothy 2:4-6 says YES
2 Corinthians 5:14 says YES
Romans 10:13 says YES
1 John 4:14 says YES
But Calvinists say NO
Scripture saying Jesus did NOT die for all:
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The Word of God says Jesus died for "all" and the "whole world" and "everyone" in those verses above. All means all, and the whole world means the whole world, and everyone means everyone. But cult teachings will try to twist this and say all does NOT mean all, and the whole world does NOT mean the whole world, and everyone does NOT mean everyone. It's like the serpent in the Garden of Eden who said you shall NOT surely die. It's obvious who is on what side by how they either affirm or denounce the scripture.
Those who disobey and intentionally deceive others from the truth put themselves in grave danger of God's wrath.
The 2nd big lie told by some is that people don't have freewill to do anything whatsoever. Some contradict themselves by saying they still sin but isn't their fault, while others say they don't sin at all and are perfect like Jesus, an obvious lie that 1 John 1:8 makes clear. Verses like Joshua 24:15 that say for you to choose (Calvinists deny this means you're not choosing) or for you to open the door (Calvinists deny this means you're opening the door) Revelation 3:20 , John 7:17.
The biggest lie I hear many say about others- they claim others are trying to EARN their own salvation. That lie is straight from Satan. They know its a lie but will spread it anyway. They know that 99% of Christians believe in grace and believe it is a gift, not earned. But just because they believe God gave them a gift of choice like Joshua 24:15 says, they suddenly claim their motives are to "earn" heaven. So dishonest. Beware of wolves!
Proverbs 18:21 Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof
1 John 1:6 "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:"
Blessings
These are dangerous waters but now that I've entered into this topic I want to continue to get as much across as deemed necessary to help those out there going through spiritual battles. I am not worthy; O Lord but how can I not exhort others knowing what is out there and what I have gone through in the past?
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. ( 1 John 1:9).
The accuser of our souls has a favorite tactic of entrapping us in sins then enveloping us in fear through accusation and other unpleasant thoughts in our minds. I won't go into the whole list of things here but if you study UFO abductions you see just how awful these things can be. The name of Jesus of course properly executed brings an end to such suffering in many of these situations.
In deliverance whether possession or oppression we must be certain repentance is sought after. Jesus warned about a house being cleaned and 7 demons worse then the first coming to roost ( Matt. 12:45). What does this mean exactly?
THe context with the Pharisees cleaning their outer selves (cups; etc) is likely alluded to here as the wickedness of that generation in general was excoriated. They just finished saying that it was Satan that Jesus was using to cast out demons; the unforgiveable sin. We can't exclude the possibility that a demon may leave from time to time even with an unsaved person as we see with Saul when David played the music as a possible example. Trying to clean our own selves apart from God is the idea; further bolstered by those invoking His name (7 sons of Sceva in Acts) and the demon not recognizing Christ in them and the subsequent result.
In terms of casting out a demon something I consider a necessary task for any Spirit filled believer although some no doubt would dispute that at any rate requres a serious walk in the Spirit. This work isn't for amateurs.
1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
Matthew 19:16 "And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?"
Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
Blessings
James 4:17 "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin."
1 John 1:6 "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:"
1 John 3:6 "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him."
Blessings
Should we ask what salvation truly is? Is it a one-time event, as it is often strongly preached today, 2 Timothy 4:3-4, or is it a lifelong journey? I see salvation as encompassing the past, present, and future. When we accept Jesus through faith, our past sins are forgiven, we are justified by faith, declared innocent of sin, and covered with a white garment, clean and pure.
We then begin a lifetime of sanctification, becoming more like Christ, and we must continually repent of our sins, walking in the Spirit to keep our garments spotless, as 1 John 1:9 states. I believe this is why there are so many warnings that we must endure, to overcome, and keep our garments spotless. We must maintain our garments, which signify a lifelong relationship with Jesus through the Holy Spirit on the way to our glorification when we are resurrected.
Our robes are made white not by us but, Revelation 7:14, unrepentant sin defiles, Revelation 3:4-5, staying steadfast in our faith, Revelation 16:15. This is lifelong; we are to be faithful until our death, Revelation 2:10, Revelation 12:11. There is a reason for these many warnings; we should at least ask why.
Thank you, brother.
God bless,
RLW
Well put!
In John 14:6 Jesus says, "I am the way, the truth, AND THE LIFE: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
When we recieve Christ we recieved LIFE!
We recieve Christ Spirit! ( A LIFE GIVING SPIRIT)
Christ Spirit cannot die!
We have been baptized by the Holyspirit into eternal life! We have eternal life now.
Eternal NEVER ENDS!
We were baptized into his death.
Our old man is crucified with him, he can never hurt us with our standing with the Lord!
We stumbled in these corrupt bodies every day! Even in thought!
And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: 1 John 2:1
1 John 1:8 says "If WE say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
John is talking to saved people! Not someone who has lost their salvation!
John included himself! (WE)
There will never be a time here in this world where you will ever have no sin.
So if anyone can lose Christ/Salvation then no one was ever saved and never will be.
You also see the work of Christ as our advocate in Romans 4:6-8.
Romans 4:6-8 reads, "Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works, Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.
Blessed is the man to whom the Lord WILL NOT IMPUTE SIN.
We're covered with Christ righteousness!
It's the heart that has changed in a true believer.
There is no desire to sin.
It grieves Christ Spirit that we now possess.
We're forever changing in the likeness of Christ but we will never be perfect until we are delivered from this body of this death.
Thanks again Brother.
God bless.
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1 John 1:10
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
we are goanna sin daily and no one is perfect or without sin. If we could live a life sin free, God would not have sent his only son to die for us.
I understand we can't live however we want to and practice our sin. For the spirt is willing but the flesh is weak.
1 John 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
Matthew 19:16
"And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?"
Matthew 19:17
"And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."
Blessings
For the believer; the opposite is the case as 1 John 1:5 states in "Him there is no darkness at all." These two verses along with similar cross references summarizes the state of the world vs those who know the Lord and hence are in the world but not of it ( John 17:16). In a broader sense it also defines those who are trapped in this world system and can't see beyond it and those who are "rapture ready" and will be delivered soon; that are currently "seated in heavenly places" according to Ephesians 2:6.
Isaiah 8:22 shows the condition of those left behind in the Tribulation: And they shall look unto the earth; and behold trouble and darkness, dimness of anguish; and they shall be driven to darkness. At that time some will cry out to God and be heard; others not. We can look to God's chosen people in Exodus 2:23; many passages in Psalms; etc. but we are warned ( Micah 3:4).
Jeremiah 7:16 even shows a passage where the Prophet was not to pray for His own people as judgment was set forth; and the Tribulation will also be with judgments already predetermined according to the seal; trumpet and vial judgments decided in the Divine council. Nonetheless, it will bring forth a "countless multitude" according to Revelation 7:9 and the complete fulfillment of Joel 2 started at Pentecost with many "signs and wonders" on the earth as well as dreams and visions coming to men and women everywhere.
Again; Daniel reminds us in the 12th chapter that only the wise will understand; not the wicked ( Daniel 12:10). We can only work now to fulfill the Great Commission and "occupy until He comes" ( Luke 19:13) but once the Rapture occurs the "gig" is up as it were; and men will have to be given strong delusion by God because of their love for evil ( 2 Thess. 2:11). Let us preach the truth and love God with our whole heart; mind and soul dutifly.
Part 1
Thank you for your reply, I certainly do not mind. I understand that this subject is delicate, and I am blessed to have brothers and sisters on this site willing to discuss it. Revelation is a challenging book, and I am looking forward to Jesse getting through it.
You have listed some exciting verses, and I hope to share my thoughts on them and your post, not to determine who may be right, but rather to view the discussion as a nudge to pray and study. On the verses you listed, John 12:49-50, Jesus is saying the Father gave Him a commandment and what the Father told Him to say, Jesus was obedient.
John 8:28-29, the Pharisees were debating with Jesus who He was, and He said that in verse 28-29 when He is lifted up/crucified, they will know who He is. We see in Matthew 28:54 when Jesus died and those things that happened, the centurion and those who were there greatly feared and said, "Truly this was the Son of God.
John 7:16-19, the gospels, reveal the glory of the Father who sent Jesus; all that Jesus did was accomplished by the Father through the Holy Spirit, with which Jesus was anointed without measure.
In John 4:34, John 5:19, John 5:30, and John 8:26 all say that it is the Father, not Him, on in John 14:10 Jesus was in the Father and the Father was in Him this was from the time Jesus was anointed without measure the Holy Spirit when He was baptized and made the Messiah.
Jesus was and is the Word of God; John 1:14. God was in the flesh in Jesus through the Holy Spirit, just like these verses say. The beginning in John, many understand it as the beginning of creation, my understanding is the beginning of Jesus' ministry, as we see in Mark 1:1, Luke 1:2, and 1 John 1:1.
To me, Jesus was the first in the plan of God, Revelation 3:14, and everything was created in Jesus, not by Him, and all was created for Jesus and the purpose of the Father. Revelation 13:8 and 1 Peter 1:18-21.
See part 2
1 John 1:10 - If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
If we say that we have not sinned, and that's what is called a Perfect Tense. That is, you have never sinned up to this point, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. What does that mean? Paul says all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
We have all of the Old Testament scriptures that talk about the corruption of man and the sinfulness of man, and all of the New Testament scriptures that talk about man's sin, the total depravity of man. And some of the Gnostics said "I've never sinned. It was my body, not me!"
If we say that we have not sinned, we're making God a liar because God says in His word, you're a sinner. And if you say you have not sinned, His word is not in you. You're not saved!
1 John 1:6 - If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
How would you like to have somebody call you a liar? You say you have fellowship with God, and that you believe in God, and that you belong to God, but in your life, you're walking in darkness. The word walk in the Greek text shows a continuous action. You're not practicing the truth. You're not walking continuously in the truth.
So, if you say with your mouth that you have fellowship with God, but your life is in darkness, you're lying. You're not having fellowship with God at all. It might be church. It might be bible study. But you're not having fellowship with God if you're walking in sin, walking in darkness.
1 John 1:8 - If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
What the Gnostics used to do is that they would say all physical is evil. Therefore, my physical body is evil, and there's nothing I can do about it. And I'm not going to be judged for any sin that it does. So, they would say to "Just party it up. Live it up. You're not responsible for what your physical body does. You are spirit. And your physical body is evil, and once you die it will be gone, and then you get to go to heaven."
And they take part of truth and combine it with some "special knowledge," and they come up with corruption. But if you say you have no sin (presently, right now), in other words you say "Well, the blood of Jesus Christ does not need to continuously cleanse me when I have fellowship, because I don't have sin," yes you do! We deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. The Lord is in the ministry of cleansing and forgiving us for all of our sins. That's His ministry!
1 John 1:5 - This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
This then is the message which we have heard from Him, and we declare to you. So, this is a teaching of Christ, the incarnate one that he just mentioned. That God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
This is one of the most important doctrines in the whole bible. With God, there is no shade. There's no dark corner. There's no darkness anywhere with God. So, if you understand that Jesus came and said, "I am the light of the world," He came to enlighten us as to who God is, and our need for a Savior in Christ, and who we are.
Once I receive Jesus Christ, I now have the light of God living inside of me. And I can sleep at night. It doesn't keep me up. But everything that I do, everything that I think, and every place that I go, I'm going in the light. There isn't any place that I can go that I am not in His light. I can go find a dark place in an alley somewhere where nobody can see me, but God's light, His Spiritual light is on.
The difference between a believer and non-believer is that a believer commits acts of sin, whereas a non-believer lives a lifestyle of sin. The reason you and I commit acts of sin but can no longer live a lifestyle of sin, is because our life is in the light.
When we sin, we are sinning in the light. And God's Spirit convicts us. And He brings us to confession and repentance before Him. The person that doesn't know the Lord is in the darkness, spiritual darkness. They have no conviction of their sin. So, they can live a lifestyle of sin. But what a concept. God is light. And there is no darkness in Him at all, none!
1 John 1:2 - (For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)
For the life, and notice it doesn't say the word of life. It says for the life, and that would be Christ. In John 14:6, Jesus said I am the way, the truth, and the life. The life was manifested. That means He appeared. And we have seen, and we are bearing witness, and we show, or literally we declare unto you that eternal life, and basically in Chapter 5, Jesus Christ is said to be the eternal God and He is eternal life. And if you have Christ, you have eternal life.
It says we declare unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;
So right away, in the first two verses, he's presenting the fact that he is an eyewitness account of the physical presence, and the ministry of the eternal God who is now in human form. And he (John) was there!
1 John 1:4 - And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
The word full is what is called the Perfect Tense which means a condition. It's a continuous condition of having your joy full. And remember I shared that the word joy in Greek is the Greek way of expressing satisfaction.
Some people apply it to the human and talk about "happiness" and "bubbly joy" that we're supposed to have all of the time. But it's not applied to the flesh. This is for the spirit to be satisfied at its fullness. So, he says to have fellowship with Christ, and with us. And then secondly, that you'll be satisfied with Him so that you don't chase after the other things.
(1 John Part 1):
1 John was written by the apostle John (not John the Baptist). John wrote the gospel of John 1, 2, 3 John, and Revelation. John wrote 1, 2 and 3 John to the churches of Asia Minor, written to combat the beginnings of Gnosticism. Gnostics claimed to have "special knowledge" from God that no one else had. Gnosticism comes from the Greek word GNOSIS which means knowledge.
In 1 John, he is presenting the humanity of Jesus Christ, that is, the human form that God came in. I believe the correct doctrine of Jesus Christ is the He is 100% God, and 100% man, when He came.
1 John 1:1 - That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
These phrases "from the beginning," are not the same phrase that's in John 1:1 in the gospels, where it says in the beginning. In the beginning, in John's gospel, it is making reference to the time of creation. In 1 John, 2 John, and 3 John, he's making reference to the beginning of the ministry of Christ here on the earth. From the beginning is different than in the beginning.
That which was from the beginning, when Christ's ministry began, which we have heard (physically and audibly), and this is a Perfect Tense verb. We literally have heard Him speak, which we have seen with our eyes, with all the physical senses we experienced Christ, which we have looked upon, and in the Greek text, that's the word where we get our word theater from. We viewed Him for three years.
And our hands handled, concerning the Word of life; We touched Him. He was physical. We saw Him. We heard Him. Now this term word of life is a very interesting study in and of itself. In the King James text, the word "word" is capitalized. But in 1 John, John is not making reference to the word being Jesus Christ. He's making reference to the message about life, and that life is God come in human form.
Hebrews 12:6 and many other like passages make it clear that God chastises everyone he loves. How does this operate?
When we consider that sanctification is only for this life and our death brings completion; as it were as we see in 1 Corinthians Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. ( 1 Corinthians 3:12-13 and other verses in that passage).
Given this context it is clear that God will use sin to develop our character. Again as I have enumerated very frequently on my posts it is our sin nature which is the origin of outer manifestations. Giving a simple illustration that which we are born in determines how we develop. Those TRULY saved will have a new nature and the old one has received its death blow but clearly we are subject to sin; as 1 John 1:8-10.
The greater question that often comes up is how Christ died for all of our sins "past present and future" then how can sin matter or even exist as it did before we are saved? Of course ALL sin at the time Christ died was future on our behalf. The Lord can see us as we will appear due to the eventual inevitable outcome; or perhaps better put despite ourselves. We see in verses such as the one in Corinthians already referred to that once in God's presence there is an instant judgment as He cannot look onto sin; and we can't stand in His presence without the refinement being made complete. Thus we should seek to work on things now rather than suffer great loss then since none of us know how much time we have left on earth.
Lamentations 3:22 says It is of the LORD'S mercies that we are not consumed, because his compassions fail not. In this passage we see the events at the fall of Israel despite the years of warning Jeremiah gave. This is an example of corporate sin; but God's faithfulness to His covenants eventually
Shall we analyse?
Remember the song
Christ is the portrait of God - Colossians 1:15
Before he was born
He did justice and in himself he died
Supremacy and thrones are
They are yours - Colossians 1: 16-17
And that thread that broke
From my soul to God - Colossians 1:21
The holy blood sewed
Christ and his lines of love - Colossians 1: 20
And now a man made I
Can in man see God
Have peace, live, walk and be
Made me a friend in his pouring out - John 15:15
When we were targets of God's wrath now we have Peace with God - Romans 5:1
I have a doubt that you probably theologians (formal or deep self-taught), show me if there is something I missed.
to go to church or not to go to church?
1 Thessalonians 5:11, 1 Peter 4:9, Psalms 133:1-3, Galatians 5:13. all these chapters do not speak of the church that is of my generation, Hebrews 10:24-25 this verse speaks of the mutual congregation.
continuing Romans 12:10, Ephesians 4:32, Acts 2:41-47, 1 John 1:6-7, 2 Corinthians 13:11, 1 Peter 1:22, Colossians 3:16, Philippians 2:1-2, John 13:34, Ecclesiastes 4:9-12, Psalm 55:14. I keep reading and re-reading Romans 12 and I wonder if it's in everyday life or gathered with the church.
Thank you very much!
1 John 1:9. If we confess our sins HE is FAITHFUL and JUST to FORGIVE us our sins and CLEANSE us from ALL unrighteousness.
His promise to you.
His promise to you.
Thanks for posting this series on the Last Supper Discourse.
In Part 2 you said several ideas that I don't find supported by the text or the teachings of Scripture concerning Jesus Christ.
In the passage that speaks of "giving eternal life" it states that Jesus was given power and authority by the Father AND that "he" (Jesus) gives eternal life. It is true that it is God who gives eternal life, but Scripture states clearly that both the Father and the Son, Jesus Christ give eternal life --- John 10:28; 1 John 5:11-13; 20; John 6:27, 54; 1 John 1:2.
John 17:2
"even as You (the Father) gave Him (Jesus, the Son)authority over all flesh, that to all whom You (the Father) have given Him (Jesus), He (Jesus)may give eternal life."
When we look at the truth of this verse it clearly states that Jesus give eternal life to all the Father gives Him.
To say of this verse that it is the Father who gives life is not exegeting this verse properly and it diminishes the deity of Jesus.
Also, you state that it was through the Holy Spirit that Jesus knew the Father's will and what to say. But this is not what Scriptures say. In John 14:31 it says that Jesus does all that the Father commands Him (Jesus) to do. No mention of the Holy Spirit here. John 5:19 says that Jesus does all that He sees the Father do. So He knows what the Father's will is and what God is says and does through His own divinity and not through the Holy Spirit.
In His human nature, Jesus relied on the Holy Spirit to be obedient to the Father, but His divinity, being unified with the Father and the Holy Spirit, knew all the will of God, all that the Father does, all that the Father says.
John 10:15 says that "even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep."
To speak as though Jesus needed the Holy Spirit to know what He was to do or say denies His divinity and oneness with the Father. See part 2
No, it is not wrong to believe that your are "a sinner saved by grace", even though this phrase is not used in the Bible. As you know, in the Church today we use phrases or words to describe a Truth that is evident in the Bible but not the actual words used. Ephesians 2:8,9 is the Scripture that reflects the phrase "a sinner saved by grace". We could say the same about the Triune Nature of God (otherwise, referred to as the Trinity): where there are many verses that describe this profound Nature yet not using that word, Trinity (e.g. Matthew 28:19; John 17:3-5; 1 John 1:1-3; etc.). We use the word 'Rapture', which is derived from the Latin form from the Greek, which means 'to seize or to snatch' (e.g. 1 Thessalonians 4:16,17). So, there's nothing wrong with using words or phrases not found in the Bible, as long as it correctly & clearly expresses a biblical Truth. But if someone is against using such words or phrases, then I would be equally comfortable in using the direct biblical quotations in lieu.
But the main point of Ephesians 2:8,9 is that our salvation is all of God's Grace & Mercy afforded us - nothing we have done or ever can do could replace or even complement God's Work for us and in us. It is truly God's Gift to us - and a gift cannot be received in exchange for something else, or else it's no longer a gift.
Was Jesus in heaven before creation? My understanding is no. Many will say Jesus is part of a Triune God, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, three distinct persons, all co-equal, and co-eternal so that would put Him in heaven before creation.
God is a Spirit John 4:24, so if Jesus were in heaven His form would be Spirit. Are there verses on their own that would support the Trinity, yes. But we must keep a verse in context and compare it to other Scriptures about the same subject and not start with the answer, or a preconceived idea. We should let the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit give us the answer and meaning.
A few thoughts. In John 1:1 what beginning is John referring to, the beginning of creation or the beginning of Jesus's ministry, when He was anointed with the Holy Ghost becoming the Messiah, Matthew 4:16-17. We see the same introduction in 1 John 1:1 and others. In Revelation 19:13 Jesus's name is called the Word of God is that saying Jesus is God?
God was manifested in Jesus through the Holy Spirit, 1 John 1:1, Luke 4:18, John 14:10. The life eternal that was with God was manifested on earth through Jesus that we may fellowship with the Father and with His Son Jesus Christ 1 John 1:2-7.
I will not go on and on but to me, there is one problem the Trinity doctrine creates I cannot find an answer.
God is perfect and cannot change, in the doctrine that would be the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. The law was made for man and a man had to fulfill it. A man who could sin had to live a perfect life without sin to pay the penalty. Jesus did and paid the penalties for sin with His death. God cannot die and God cannot sin nor can He be tempted James 1:13, so He could not fulfill the law. Jesus was born without sin as the first Adam but could sin, the first Adam was not obedient and sinned. The last Adam, Jesus, was obedient to the Father and sinned not Romans 5:19. If God sacrificed Himself John 3:16 is not true.
God bless,
RLW