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Jesus in plain language told his disciples:
Matthew 28:19
"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"
Do you not believe this verse? Yes or No?
After Christs crucifixion: Peter tells us (everyone) how we receive the Holy Spirit.
Acts 2:38
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Do you believe this verse? Yes or No?
You mention John 3:37 This is Jesus telling us to drink from his spirit, yes he promises to give us his Holy Spirit, going on - In John 3:38 "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water." This confirms that we will receive the Holy Spirit when we believe in Him, repent, be baptized as "all of the scripture" states. We need to read, understand and believe in "all of the scripture" not just "cherry pick" single verses like this - that may meet "your own unique vision" of salvation.
You continually mention the need for us to become like children to enter into heaven. I agree, we need to become like children as commanded by Jesus: Matthew 18:3 "And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven."
The way we become like children - is to become - "like children" - humble, obedient, and submissive to Christs instructions, and commands, as Jesus/God emphasizes throughout the Old, and New Testaments in the bible. The downfall of the Jews and Christians yesterday and today - is the sinful and continual rebellious attitude to obedience toward Gods commands!
Read and believe!
also in acts 2:11 The bible says they were speaking the wonderful works of God. It is a working of the spirit to be done
decent and in order like all things of the true God. In respect of the rest Ephesians 4:3-6 is the key to spiritual unity.
Just because something is not believed doesn't mean it isn't true, also just because is believed doesn't mean its true
that's why all things spiritual must be accurately lined up with Gods Word and all other sources Questioned. Nothing
stops Gods Power of holy spirit in us when we rise up and believe whats written and act accordingly. Also there is no
respect of persons, conditions yes.
water mentioned anywhere and the word baptizes there means pouring out or pouring into or consecrate which
means to set apart which we are by the spirit. Just sharing the word.
May I address your assumption about sinning after being baptized. All are sinners Romans 3:23. After choosing to follow Christ we still are sinners, but as long as we follow Christ our sins will be forgiven by grace. Paul admitted his wrestling with the flesh if you wish to read about that. If we sin we should ask for forgiveness and be genuine- God knows our hearts. If someone intentionally sins to use grace as a hall pass to commit unlimited sin and wickedless, then I would not say that person isn't following Christ. John 14:15. Of course you'll find some people who claim they can do whatever they want, because their sins don't count and I believe that is a lie from the enemy. God hates sin and us obeying Him matters, regardless of what a man says to convince me otherwise.
Also, when you're baptized you're following Jesus's teaching, not a ritual to get into a particular church. So, if you want to be baptized you can ask church leaders in your area and I'm sure you'll find someone happy to baptize you even though you don't attend their church. I also have a hard time with church, because human beings are flawed beings whereever you go. I don't like seeing worldly culture infiltrating into a church, for example, in effort to please man, instead of trying to please God.
I don't believe being born of water through your mother has nothing to do with baptism at all.
The baptism mentioned in the early Church was given while the church was in a transition, They started as all Jews. Jesus said he came for the lost sheep of Israel. When Christ was glorified then he told them to go out to the whole world.
At the time Judaism was their religion which they had to denounce.
They were to be baptized as an act of belief. It wasn't for salvation. It was Identifying with the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ.
Have you noticed Paul "one of the chief apostles" Was the apostle to the Gentiles and didn't put no emphasis on baptism?
1 Corinthians 1:17.
WOW! You mean Paul set up churches and ordained ministers such as Timothy and Titus and Christ didn't send him to baptize? Because the Gentiles wasn't bond to the ministry of death given by Moses ( that cause death ). You see baptism expressed the work Jesus came to do on the cross. ( Die in our place ) and rise the 3rd day.
Baptize means to identify with.
Here's how it is used in scripture.
1 Corinthians 10:2. You see the children of Israel was identified with Moses faith, not there own. They was scared and wanted to go back to Egypt. and the see didn't baptize them, They went over on dry land.
Here's another place it's used.
Mark 16:16. Here Jesus is not asking to do two things as it seems, " Believe and be baptized " He's asking one. " Believe ". When you done this you done the other! You've been pit into the body of believers and Identified with Christ. That's baptism of the Holyspirit.
EXAMPLE .
Your standing in front the TV. and someone ask you to sit down and get out the way. Once you sit down You've gotten out the way. and once you've believed you've been baptized.
And it's used like that in Acts 2:38. and several other places.
It plays no role in redemption, It's your outward profession in what you believe that has been taken place.
God bless.
I may suggest reading Acts 2:38. Notice it says 'every one of you'. It doesn't say just 'some of you' or 'only if your mom or other family hasn't been baptized'. So, when I read the Bible and trust that its words are true, I am also believing in faith that when it says 'every one of you' that it means 'every one of you', including you and me. Jesus made baptism a big deal, so I think the least I can do if I'm serious about following Him is to obey and be baptized. Mark 16:16, John 3:5, Matthew 28:19
Perhaps another question is: are you a Christian? And if so why wouldn't you want to be baptized like Jesus said?
You might also check out the verses on this page: Link
God bless...
Acts 1:15 KJV
[15] And in those days Peter stood up in the midst of the disciples, and said, (the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,)
Acts 2:1-4 KJV
[1] And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. [2] And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. [3] And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. [4] And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.
One hundred twenty disciples were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. This is the first Church of Jesus Christ, who is the head of the Church, is Lord of all. This is not called Trinity Church as you think that Trinity is made of the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: as you claim to say what Jesus said according to the scriptures of Matthew 28:19 KJV [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: That is the misunderstanding of the scriptures as those who believe in the Trinity's doctrine that is FALSE.
According to the scriptures of Acts 2:42 KJV [42] And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. What Jesus taught the twelve apostles to follow His doctrine is the ministry of Jesus Christ according to the scriptures of Ephesians 2:19-22 KJV [19] Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; [20] And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone ; (Read next comment in Part 10)
Acts 2:39-47 KJV
[39] For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. [40] And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. [41] Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. [42] And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayers. [43] And fear came upon every soul: and many wonders and signs were done by the apostles. [44] And all that believed were together, and had all things common; [45] And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need. [46] And they, continuing daily with otures accord in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, did eat their meat with gladness and singleness of heart, [47] Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as should be saved.
You will never find any scriptures of Book of Acts concerning Matthew 28:19 KJV [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Because according to the scriptures of Book of Luke 24:30-53 KJV
[30] And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed it, and brake, and gave to them. [31] And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight. [32] And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures? [33] And they rose up the same hour, and returned to Jerusalem, and found the eleven gathered together, and them that were with them, [34] Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon. (Read next comment in Part 7)
Acts 2:38-40 KJV
[38] Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. [39] For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. [40] And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Please notice that there is no where found and written in the Book of Acts about what Jesus was saying to the eleven apostles whom He commanded to do that they must teach and baptize all nations in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost according to the scriptures of Matthew 28:19 KJV [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Only Apostle Peter to whom Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom of heaven according to the scriptures of Matthew 16:19 KJV [19] And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. It was Apostle Peter to whom Jesus gave the keys of the kingdom of heaven to bind on earth that shall be bound in heaven, and loose on earth that shall be loosed in heaven according to the scriptures of Matthew 16:17-19 KJV [17] And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-jona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. [18] And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. [19] And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. (Read next comment in Part 3)
the physical including marys descendancy according to the flesh and royal lineage David.
In luke the lineage is given as commoner a perfect man Gods Son and servant that's why it says
supposed the son of joseph because in His own home town they did not believe He was The Son of God Mathew 13:54-58,
also Luke 4:16-22. Because they knew the family they didn't believe Jesus Christ was Gods Son.
I don't believe anything has changed from the command by the Lord to go into the World, teach all nations & baptize them in the Trinity, to when the Holy Spirit fell upon those apostles (i.e. baptized directly from God), to when the apostles carried out that command to teach & then baptize those who believed. To make water baptism a necessary part of salvation's Gift, rather than an act of identification with that Gift, in my mind is untenable. Water baptism & reception of the Spirit at conversion, go hand in hand - i.e. if you believe you were baptized, no arguments could be presented. Could any of that great gathering ( Acts 2:41) have objected to being baptized & not face the surprise & consternation of Peter? The multiitude knew both the great worth of their salvation & the great cost of being identified with Christ, breaking away from their religion/idols. Today, we really have no sense of it, except those expressing faith through baptism in Hindu/Muslim regions.
But a question rarely asked, if at all: were the 12 apostles (except Paul) baptized in water after they were saved at Pentecost? Most believers would unflinchingly say, Yes. But have any of the apostles ever spoken of their baptism in their letters or seen in the Book of Acts? There seems to be a precedent for those who may not have received the Gospel by conventional means (i.e. receiving it directly by the Spirit). There will also be situations where a person is desperately ill or incapable of being water baptized (except by sprinkling). Also, when those who want to be baptized & there was none to do it, & much time has since passed by making the command inappropriate for its meaning. I see occasions that not being baptized is valid.
Is Water Baptism no longer valid because of the Spirit's baptism? I see no where in Scripture to invalidate it, but I see exceptions to the rule (given above) & its performance by the Church today.
I agree that quarrelling should be avoided and its best to avoid any "I'm right/you're wrong" discussions, however, there is only one truth. If something is publicly posted that is not truth and might lead someone else to stumble there is an obligation for believers to gently share the truth, in attempt to reverse the damage done.
So, you wrote: "its not a requirement for spiritual baptism."
But Jesus said: " John 3:5, Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."
"water and of the Spirit"
Not just Spirit.
"cannot enter into the kingdom of God"
And God's Word in Acts 2:38 says: "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
"be baptized"
But who, surely not me?
"every one of you"
But there's more scripture: Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Acts 22:16 - And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
Matthew 28:19 - Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
Acts 10:48 - And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
Acts 8:36-39 - And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
So, if I'm honest with myself, even if I didn't want to be baptized or was taught it wasn't necessary, or was embarrassed, or had any other reasons for not wanting to obey, it would be a very tough sell to read all these verses saying to be baptized and instead claim that we should NOT be baptized.
Acts 2:38 the word for baptized everyone of you and ye shall receive Holy Ghost, the word baptized means to
or set apart also it is either external or internal. When a person is born again it is internal spiritually it is by
Gods Gift Holy Spirit internal it is in us. Now the translators used the same word alo for water that's why I said depending
on context external or internal. In John 3:16 both are used first one I'm baptising you external for consecration or
preparation, second one Jesus Christ shall future baptise with pneuma Hagion or holy spirit which will burn up
the chaff because its internal. So in Regards to spiritual baptism I'll let you decide what the Word of God says.
Then You have Ephesians 4:4 remember Jesus Christ gave Paul how and what and where and when and to whom
concerning His Church the Body of Christ in the Age of Grace. Make up your own mind on It Is Written when
all scripture concerning subject matter are considered and understood. P.S. I didn't cover all of them due to
tht' a lot too cover.
My interpretation of Acts 1:5 is that John only prepared the way for Jesus's ministry, so once Jesus came I believe baptism had a greater significance. So, my interpretation is before Jesus: water only. After Jesus: water + Holy Spirit.
"but its not a requirement for spiritual baptism, I was born again many year ago and was never water baptised."
When I read John 3:5 and Acts 2:38 I know exactly what it says and feel if it wasn't important it would not have been said. I think if baptism wasn't a necessary or important step of obedience, then Jesus wouldn't have baptized people and He clearly would have said to not get baptized. But He clearly said to get baptized. I don't think satan is deceiving me into believing I need to be MORE obedient to Jesus than I truly need to be, but the opposite would seem more likely.
Given that its a commandment from Jesus, it seems like an easy decision to me. And lets say you're right and I'm wrong, then there's no downside to getting baptized and honoring Jesus, is there? But if my interpretation of John 3:5 and Acts 2:38 is right and yours is wrong then you have an enormous downside to deliberately disobeying Jesus, do you not?
God bless...
There is no place in the bible that tells us that we don't have to be baptized, conversely, there is much scripture that tells us that we do need to be baptized.
In addition to believing in Jesus to be saved, we are told by Jesus to be baptized.
John 3:5
"Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God."
Except we be born of water and the Spirit (Holy Spirit) we can not enter into the kingdom of God! This is a very powerful and easy to understand message.
Apostle Peter also confirms baptism below, so we must repent, be baptized, and we will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Acts 2:38
"Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost."
In summary, the bible scripture clearly states what we must do regarding regarding baptism. If anyone says different, they are lying, and telling you to ignore this and other powerful scripture!
God Bless.
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
* Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and GODHEAD so that they are WITHOUT EXCUSE."
Genesis 1:1
The Father purposes
The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)
The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.
All working together. Jesus came to show us the Father, as Emmanuel.
Matthew 1:23
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God WITH US. [Jesus]
{Comment} Jesus came to bring to each born again believer; the baptism and the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit.
[ Genesis 1:2, John 3:6, Acts 2:1-3, John 16: 7-15]
Upon being born again, Jesus gives the Holy Spirit to us. Teach us scripture, comfort us, convict us of sin, enable us to be witnesses. Stay in the New Testament at first. Learn fully who the Son of Man is (Jesus).
Your friend might get a better picture of what is coming to the earth, by watching this high tech kinda wild movie on what the end times will look like. It helps to read the Book of Revelation in the Bible.
Lots of people can't get a point of reference on Revelation. It seems mystical but it isn't. It going to fit perfectly into our society.
This movie is chopped up into about 10 videos. To see how earth ends and begins again, watch the one titled, the "Millennium."
See it on YouTube. It's about 1:44 mins long.
Tell friends about it too. Very little dialog, but scripture references are shown.
(The videos put out by Lion of the Tribe of Judah; don't get it mixed up with the Revelation Station videos)
life and the interpretation part is strictly in a believers gathering for the inspiration of others. All things of the
spirit understood correctly are done decent and in order. It will do wonderful things It for you including get you really
peaceful on the inside spiritually. It's a big deal because the Apostle Paul said to an entire assembly that
he thanked God he spoke in tongues more than all of them. Also on the day of Pentecost Gods Word says that
Acts 2:11 That they were speaking the wonderful works of God, I didn't write the book I just believe and do.
Remember this Philippians 2:13 For it is God energizing you to do His good will and pleasure,
it is a manifestation of the spirit in you to bless your walk in Him.
James 2:19
James 1:23
James 2:24
2 Peter 2:21
Acts 2:38
John 1:9
God bless...
1) This assembly was a 'continuation' of Christ's 'earthly political kingdom' assembly He mentioned in Matthew 16:18
This assembly of God's 'prophetic/law' program Must NEVER be 'Confused' with, And Must Be
Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15 From "Things That DIFFER!"
2) God's MYSTERY/GRACE program which has, NOT 'a woman Nor a bride,' but, Has God's "one NEW man" Ephesians 2:15, Which Is God's 'Heavenly spiritual' Organism, The Body Of Christ, Whose Birthday Is Acts 9, God's GRACE 'church' Of TODAY! Amen?
3) Many MORE 'Differences' in God's TWO 'Different' programs and assemblies are here
Prophecy vs MYSTERY: Link
Acts 2, the Jews
Acts 8, the Samaritans,
Acts 10, the gentiles
Acts 19, John's disciples rebaptized ALL IN THE NAME OF JESUS, ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM
mouth believe in Heart and thou shalt be saved Absolute tense! This is the why, believe and become a child
of the most High! God bless
to do things of God correctly because the Corinthian believers were way out of order and combining pagan
actions and thought to the things of God. It is the first thing done on the day of Pentecost and in Acts 2:11
Gods Word says they were speaking the wonderful works of God and they were not jumping up and dow
shouting or hitting the floor they decent and in order. Prayerfully this helps.
People are deceived if they believe everyone goes to heaven regardless of how much sick and vile evil they commit against God, like Hitler mass murdering people. Jesus already said most people will go to hell. Just read the gospels and his many parables. They are all similar themes- warning after warning.
Jesus died for everyone, but forgiveness is contingent upon someone humbling themselves, repenting, confessing, believing, declaring Jesus is Lord and accepting the gift. Acts 2:38 - this requires an action. It doesn't say 'Do nothing and ye shall receive the gift' or 'Keep sinning as much as you want...' Here's another action requirement: repentance: Luke 5:32. Here's another confessing: 1 John 1:9.
Romans 10:9 - notice the "If..." People don't say "if" unless it's conditional. Salvation is conditional.
This says to believe: 1 John 5:13. It doesn't say 'not believing is totally fine.' Romans 12:2 - this says to be transformed and to not conform to the world. That's a big bummer for those hoping for a free get out of hell free card to enjoy a lifetime of sin and guilty pleasures. Look at this: John 8:11 and even this: James 2:26. Another: James 4:6. Reading the Bible for what it is paints a very different picture than the little summaries people like to spread around. People who ignore all the Bible's teachings and do whatever they want should be afraid for their soul: Luke 12:5. God bless.