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This is a mystery at least while Christ was here in the flesh before the Resurrection ( Matt. 24:36). According to 2 Thess. 2:6 the restrainer is removed; then the man of sin can be revealed; hence all the events of the Tribulation commences at that point. This would signify as I can see the Holy Spirit in the way it manifests during the Church Age; also showing how the Holy Ghost is in some ways dependent in its actions to the Father. The Spirit is said to indicate; as John 16:8-11 sin; righteousness and judgment to come; and seals every believer until the Day of Redemption ( Eph. 4:30).

The offices of the Godhead somehow operate in this manner; despite each member being God. The best way I can see this is that God the Father is not able ever to be in the presence of sin without judgment coming from Him directly. There had to be some separation therefore or when Christ died at the cross the whole universe would have ceased to exist the moment He was estranged for that instant from the Father. It would seem the Holy Spirit; since it came from Christ directly at Pentecost has always been the way the Omnipresent Godhead can be within His chosen vessels. Truly; there was always that presence in Old Testament times; as it will be in some ways in the future Tribulation and beyond but the ministry changes. The results of that can be seen contrasting the promises of Matthew 16:18 and the statements of the saints being overcome in Daniel 7:15 etal.

I am stating all this so that verse about the Son of Man not knowing the Day and hour of His return can be better understood.

Christ learning obedience in a self depreciating manner ( Heb. 5:8) while He took on the form of man with all the limitations so He could be our substitute in life and death in every way; being tempted as we are but without sin ( Heb. 4:15) is also unfathomable in our minds. Nonetheless; Christ alerted to us that He comes a day we don't expect. We should be aware of signs; not overcome by fear

2 PETER 3:8-9

"But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

Mae That is in Gods time table when all other scripture is fulfilled.

2Peter 3:9,

Zephaniah 1:15, Ezekiel 30:3, Amos 5:18-20,

Matthew 24, Mark 13,

Isaiah 11:3-4,

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Why should Jesus have to wait for too long before coming back.. Can somebody answer me please...

Ephesians 5:18 says be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess, but be filled with the Spirit. What that tells me is you must choose one or the other. Can't be filled with both simultaneously. As a Christian, therefore, I mustn't drink alcohol.

Jesus is the Good News. You can repent and be born again. John 3.

Matthew 5:27-37 on marriage and divorce. Take a look at 1 Corinthians 7:8-15; Malachi 3:15-16

Marriage is a VOW MADE BEFORE GOD. The problems in your life are because you don't know how binding a vow is. It would be good for you to make an appointment at a Church that offers counseling. They're not going to condemn you. You will understand the seriousness of the vow.

John 4:

16 Jesus saith unto her, Go, call thy husband, and come hither.

17 The woman answered and said, I have no husband. Jesus said unto her, Thou hast well said, I have no husband:

18 For thou hast had five husbands; and he whom thou now hast is not thy husband: in that saidst thou truly.

Comment: Jesus knows all of our life's story. He didn't condemn her. He showed her a better way to live.

Ephesians 5:33 - Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence (honor) her husband.

My counsel for happiness: wed a Christian man. Genesis chapter 24 is the best love story written.

The Book of Ruth has a happy ending too.

Mishael

Rejoice evermore, HALLELUJAH JESUS , Pray without ceasing, in everything give thanks for this is the will of GOD in CHRIST JESUS concerning thee,

Quench not the Spirit

Ephesians 5:20

Giving thanks always for all things unto God and the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ;

James 5:14

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:

Seek Ye first the kingdom of GOD FIRST! And His righteousness FIRST!

And these other things shall be added unto thee.

Glory be to GOD ALMIGHTY, even our Father,

and to our LORD JESUS CHRIST for ever and ever

peace and happy and LOVE consume you on our wonderful JESUS amen and amine

Again thank you, I was made to watch pornography on my TV. I was sick dehydrated and confused. This behavior has happened before. I t was disgusting and more importantly they know who done it. And nobody got me a lawyer. I was abused humiliated and so was god. Ephesians chapter 5. Rebuked them and cable TV. Next is my phone. I had to get off Facebook because pornography was sent tobmy email. There let me starve and then over fed me. I have been victimized by this. I tried them in my front yard and window I was in trouble instead the kept being mean. I think I pornography came from the next door. Nothing like making somebody feel bad about themselves. Woman better looking than me showeing off how are pretty they are. And calling me ugly. Thank you god bless you.

Neighbors mocking people and picking fun of them. Such things a slave labor laws.

Thank you so much. I prayed and prayed. God sent me on a trail and found this about pleading the blood of jesus. So much thank you. Prayers to help.

Praying for you ,

I'm so sad, I tried so hard not to tell, but they forced me to tell. I love God so much. Satan took me into darkness. I can't say anything to you, but I'm confused as what god wanted and expected of me. I never wanted to be in darkness. When I am with god and smell so clean and truly beautiful. I belong to god. I hated it were been forced to be for ten yrs fighting hard for god when he was hear whole time. It's on fair the people doing things that god didn't want revealed or relivef. On fair. So degrating to me and god. Please forgive us all. I love God so much why is god allowing this to happen. Please pray for me and my family. I made my decision and even repented. Why won't it stop. Is it the greed, no sexual morality, lies no just one along time ago I heard a voice message, but it stopped.

Hello Fabian TAIMABRI,

Genesis 1:27, notice: Genesis 1:26,28,29,

Genesis 2:7, interestingly here "formed, breathed life" is this symbolic of the Church the body of Christ to come? John 12:25, Genesis 3:22, John 5:26, John 5:24, John 3:36, John 6:48,54, Titus 1:2, Romans 8:6, John 5:39,

Is chapter 2, symbolic of the stewardship of GOD's Church? Genesis 2:15, Matthew 20:8, Luke 12:42, Mark 12,

Back to Genesis 1, "man appears to be collective for both" yes in name like human, humanity, humankind "man"

see even more interesting = Genesis 5:2,

GOD says distinctly female & male Genesis 1:27,

It appears it could be those created to multiply, fill the earth, subdue were away from the presence of GOD, again seeming to point to the symbolism in the garden "in the presence of GOD " His church. Genesis 3:8, Genesis 3:23-24, Genesis 4:14-16,

Genesis 2:17, spiritual death? Matthew 8:22, Luke 9:60, Matthew 22:32, Matthew 23:27,

In the forming of Eve, it appears also specific, spiritual & special with symbolism, Genesis 2:21-25, Genesis 6:1-3, Mark 10:4-9, 1Corinthians 6:15, Revelation 21:2,9, Isaiah 62:5, John 3:29-36, Matthew 22, Luke 12:36, Ephesians 5:30-32,

1Corinthians 13:9-12, James 1:5, Ephesians 3:4,

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* Proverbs 3:3-4: Let love and faithfulness never leave you; bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart. Then you will win favor and a good name in the sight of God and man.

* Romans 12:10: Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves.

* Genesis 2:18-25

* Isaiah 54:5: For your Maker is your husband, the LORD of hosts is his name; and the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer, the God of the whole earth he is called.

* Proverbs 30:18-19: There are three things that amaze me-no, four things that I don't understand: how an eagle glides through the sky, how a snake slithers on a rock, how a ship navigates the ocean, how a man loves a woman.

* Ruth 1:16-17: Entreat me not to leave you, Or to turn back from following after you; For wherever you go, I will go; And wherever you lodge, I will lodge; Your people shall be my people, And your God, my God. Where you die, I will die, And there will I be buried. The Lord do so to me, and more also, If anything but death parts you and me.

* 1 John 4:12: No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us.

* Hebrews 10:24-25: And let us consider how we may spur one another on toward love and good deeds, not giving up meeting together, as some are in the habit of doing, but encouraging one another-and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

* 1 Peter 4:8: Most important of all, continue to show deep love for each other, for love covers a multitude of sins.

* Ecclesiastes 4:12: Though one may be overpowered, two can defend themselves. A cord of three strands is not quickly broken.

* Ephesians 5:33: However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

* Proverbs 10:12: Hatred stirs up conflict, but love covers over all wrongs.

* Ruth 1:16-17: Entreat me not to leave you, Or to turn back from following after you; For wherever you go, I will go (read more)

Mishael

Hanna Fowler,

Sometimes we have to find out who we are not, & who we don't want to be, before we find out who we are. I've told several people at times before testings & temptation we can say "I'd never" but as Peter under the real pressure gave in, we really don't know how we handle trial & temptation until testing. (We're to pray that God deliver us & lead us not into temptation ' Matthew 6,) Luke 22:31-34, Luke 22:40-62, Matthew 26:75, John 21:17, later Peter became a bold preacher read all the book of Acts to see Peter's boldness afterward. Here's a few: Acts 2:38-47, Acts 2:14, this is in the Bible for those of us who need this encouragement. Also this scripture : Luke 7:47, in context Luke 7:37-50,

Here are a few more: Mark 1:15, Acts 2:38, John 3:15-16, Acts 3:19, Romans 3:22-25,

Romans 5:8, "But God commendeth his love towards us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us."

Ephesians 5,

Ephesians 5:8 "For ye were sometimes darkness, but now ye are light in the Lord: walk as children of the light."

Matthew 7, Matthew 25:31-46, 2Corinthians 1:4,

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Getting stronger is the same for the physical and spiritual. Proper diet and exercise (reason of use). Faithfulness in small things. I remember one of our aged preachers always saying toward the end of his ministry "in my life I have found that it is doing the small things that makes the big difference". My dad would say "it is not your ability, but your availability" . The following verses reference these thoughts. Hebrews 5:14 But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Luke 19:18 And the second came, saying, Lord, thy pound hath gained five pounds." Our old nature wants to do big things, but think of the little things you can do for others every day. God Bless You!! Obviously we need to remain attached to the vine and have the power of the Holy Spirit. Ephesians 5:6 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

Alex, I understand the Scriptures about the marriage of Christ and the Church. Paul calls it a mystery in Ephesians 5:25-32.

We are indeed united with Christ and with one another, but as anyone can plainly see, we all are not one person, losing our individual identities, even in marriage, we are still two persons. So, I do not concur with your analysis of this topic. I do not believe any created being will ever acquire the divine nature and have our essential nature changed from human to divine. I do not believe the Scriptures teach that we will become 'gods'. I do believe we have the wonderful privilege of having communion and unity with Jesus. But that does not necessarily mean that we will exchange our human nature for God's nature. You gave the example of Jesus' spit and the dirt. Well, as far as chemistry goes, what Jesus made was an amalgamation of the molecules of his HUMAN (not divine) spit and the molecules of the dirt. The molecules of both substances remained the same as before they were put together. They did not change in their essential makeup. The compound made is just that-a compound-consisting of both unaltered substances. We are united with Christ, yes, He does not become more human when united with us anymore than we become divine. He remains, fully God and fully human. No additional humanity can be added to Christ because He is fully 100% human. And as for us, we remain 100% human, not a mixture of humanity and divine.

Jesus, being God had all the fullness (100%) of deity. No more deity could be added to Him, the Father, nor the Spirit. Likewise, since they each contain 100% divinity, then for them to give any divinity to us created beings would decrease their deity and they would no longer be 100% deity, which would indicate a change in God. But He is immutable and never changes in His essential divinity. His divinity will never increase nor decrease, multiply nor divide. He stays the same always.

Hi John. Expanding on the John 17:13-19 reference that T. Levis shared, I would also direct you to 1 Corinthians 5:9-11: "I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."

The Apostle Paul is referencing an earlier letter he had written to the Corinthian believers (that letter doesn't exist now) in which he addressed the matter of keeping company with fornicators in the world. As you have asked, "how far do you go with that do not have nothing to do with this world", I see that it's not so much a percentage of our time, if any, that we give to the world, rather, what type of interaction we have with the world. In Paul's letter, he wrote about keeping company (or, fellowshipping) with sinners, not just sinners in the world, but those caught in sin within the Church. And Paul qualifies his statement by saying that there will always be some interaction between believers & unbelievers, because if one could manage to not connect with unbelievers, then one would have to leave this world to achieve that.

Therefore, we could say, 'we can interact with the world but not have communion (fellowship) with them'. Matters have to be discussed, trading to be carried out, people you have to work with, even the Gospel needs to be preached, with material help if needed; so we will always have & need to have contact with the world. But when the world wants us to join them in their activities, their parties or acts not becoming of Christian witness or behaviour, then we must abstain. And Paul repeats this important rule in Ephesians 5:11,12; 2 Corinthians 6:14. You might be the only Light they ever see.

Sons of God:

Galatians 2:20

I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.

2 Corinthians 6:16

And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people

Psalms 43:4

Then will I go unto the altar of God, unto God my exceeding joy: yea, upon the harp will I praise thee, O God my God.

Psalms 56:4

In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me.

Job 34:12

Yea, surely God will not do wickedly, neither will the Almighty pervert judgment.

Ephesians 5:17

Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.

Stay in the Kingdom of God:

Romans 14:17

For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.

1 Corinthians 4:20

For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.

Grae:

Ephesians 5:9

(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Ephesians 5:10

Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.

Romans 1:18

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Grace and peace from God the Father in Heaven and the Lord Jesus Christ.

"Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord." Ephesians 5:10 KJV

My Fellow Believers:

You would not believe that the Wisdom of Solomon is revealed to His saints as it is written:

THERE IS POWER IN THE WORD OF GOD!!!!!

I prayed for wisdom and for those who truly have pure heart, will receive that wisdom, knowledge and understanding. I say that because when I read the Wisdom of Solomon, most of them are already imputed in my heart without knowing it. See Colossians verses below:

Trust, believe and have faith in what Jesus did on the cross. For the blood Jesus Christ shed is just like the OT Lamb without blemish sacrifices. Now He is that Lamb without sin and He already died for us ALL. Jesus Christ already won the Devil. He gave us a free gift: the gift of grace; the righteousness of faith; the grace of God.

Apostle Paul is the last Apostle God revealed what we Gentiles need to do ( the Book of Romans to Philemon).

Those who understand the mysteries of Christ/ God will walk in the Spirit of God.

Romans 8:9

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

You will know these people through the fruit of their spirit:

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance

Ephesians 5:9

(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Also make no mistake 1 Corinthians 13:2 ; Read verses 3-8; 13:

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

Colossians 2:2

That their hearts might be comforted, being knit in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

Colossians 2:3

In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

Be saved: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

Hello Donya. I wasn't sure to what level you wanted to go to for an explanation, hence my brief reply. I suppose your dialogue with that enquiring student has now long ended, but if you're still interested in more material on Sanctification, I would add the following:

As mentioned, 'sanctify' means 'to set apart'; having the same root as 'saint and holy'. For the believer, sanctification is generally seen in three aspects.

a. Positional Sanctification. The believer been set apart by his position in God's family. This is so of every true believer regardless of his spiritual condition because this concerns his spiritual state not his present condition (remember 1 Corinthians 6:11 was read by largely carnal Christians). This sanctification is based on Christ's Death as seen in Hebrews 10:10.

b. Experiential Sanctification. Since we have been set apart, we are to be increasingly set apart from the flesh & world in our daily experience ( 1 Peter 1:14-16). So when 'spiritual growth' is spoken about & expected in believers, it is this progressive & experiential aspect of the sanctifying work that should be our continual aspiration.

c. Future Sanctification. Also referred to as 'completed redemption'. We believe that the redemption we now have in Christ is complete in its work before God & in our lives (in the matter of release of sin's penalty & grip). Likewise, our future redemption or sanctification implies that their full meaning can only be grasped when our 'position & practise' comes into full & perfect accord when we see Jesus, raised to be with Him, & become as He is ( 1 John 3:1-3; Ephesians 5:26,27; Jude 1:24,25): This is our Redemption/Sanctification completed. Hope this 'extra' will assist you for the future.

It was heartening to read something of your work. Having done some ministry in Pakistan, I can well appreciate the vigilance & discretion required when sharing with folk. May much fruit be borne as the Spirit leads you all.

Every blessing sister.

Hi Tara. If I could add briefly to some of your 'other' questions.

a. Dispensationalism. I don't believe that seeing different dispensations in the Bible is altogether wrong. It would be wrong if everything you read must fit (or, be forced) into a dispensation category to make the Bible work. Rather than give details on the various dispensations, I would just say that there does appear some clear demarcations seen that could be of help to us in correct Bible hermeneutics, but that shouldn't be forced upon one as an essential to understanding & trusting in the Words in the Bible.

b. Can the Holy Spirit leave? When one has truly repented of sins, turned to Jesus in faith, & being born again, the promise to us is that the Holy Spirit comes to reside in us: 1 Corinthians 6:19 (i.e. His Presence is there to give us new life, Titus 3:5, 1 John 2:29); a new nature ( 2 Corinthians 5:17); sealing us ( 2 Corinthians 1:22, Ephesians 1:13); filling us ( Ephesians 5:18); & other ministries to guide, teach & comfort us. Yet, we can hardly fathom how intimately the Spirit works in us, drawing us closer to our Heavenly Father, & longing for us to be conformed to our blessed Lord Jesus. But if we step outside the Will of God, to disobey or to pursue a fleshly desire, then the Spirit in us will be grieved ( Ephesians 4:30), quenched ( 1 Thessalonians 5:19), outraged ( Hebrews 10:29), even resisted ( Acts 7:51). But does He leave us when we sin? No, He continues to minister to us bringing us to repentance, that we should call upon God to help us overcome & glorify Him in our lives. The true believer remains secure ( John 10:28), but we need to make sure we are indeed 'in the faith', experiencing God's Work in our lives.

c. Gluttony? Can be ranked with drunkenness or other obsessive, repetitive behaviour that slowly destroys the body God has given us. We need to take control over it, even if it means medical help & know that God desires our healing. It may not be sin, but can lead to it.

Why hate life when God gave it to you. Yes bro I am in the same boat but I don't hate life. I hate the devil. The evil one. He makes things unbearable. That's where God comes in. God said "He would never give us more than we could bear." Brother im praying for you and know God is with you. Brother in Jesus Name you will be healed God always has a special way of turning things around. We have to put God first. It's hard and dude I have been right where you are. Life is precious. Walk with God and He will show you the way. For David wrote "God you have turned my mourning into dancing" we stand with you that we serve a "Turnaround" God!!!!

Hey Mike,

I know this might seem flip to you, but don't despair. If your really feel bad read Job. That book in scripture will make you cry.

Anyway, memorize Psalm 91:15 "He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him and honor him." This is an awesome promise of the Lord. But, it's up to you to call on him to get you through your troubles. May God help you and bless you.

Helene

Mike, if you have never asked Jesus Christ into your heart and life please go to the bottom of This prayer request page and click on the "become a Christian" link.

Life without Jesus is . Not good.

Lord God, You see Mike right where he is today. Please speak to his spirit and lift him out of this despair. When we feel Your love and believe Your Word we will be lifted up. Please lift him up today. In Jesus name. Help him figure out how to get through every/any situation with victory. Speak peace and joy to his spirit Lord. Thank You.

Cast all your care on Him, He cares for you! Find a place to get alone and talk to Jesus from your heart. Wait on Him to answer. He will show you what you need to know.

1Peter 5:7

Isaiah 40:31

i hate life

Do you not know that the biden administration has elected more muslims in office? Do you not know how many muslim mosques are in the United States of America? Did you know right now there are islamic clubs at almost every secular university in America? I am just creating awareness of the horrors of islam. You talk about only talking about the Bible, and I am also doing that by exposing the damnable heresies in the koran. There are verses in the Bible that talks about how the followers of Christ are to expose the unfruitful works of darkness. There are verses are in the KJV Bible that talk about it, so that is what I am doing what the Bible says..

Ephesians 5:11, "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them."

James 1:22, "But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."

We are to not just talk about the Holy Word of God, but apply the Holy Word of God in our daily lives. I am not better than anyone, just better off spiritually speaking than most ( Matthew 7:22-23), but only because of how Jesus Christ suffered and shed His precious blood on Calvary's cross for all my sins and the whole world, for I am nothing and can do nothing apart from the finished work of Jesus Christ. Isaiah 64:6, ""But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away."

I do not want to be deceived in thinking that just by talking or hearing about God's Holy Word is enough for me to go to Heaven, when only the doers of God's Holy Word will make it to Heaven, and we are not saved by works, but by what Christ accomplished on the cross by offering up Himself as a living sacrifice for all of us. Love you in Christ!