Ephesians
King James Version (KJV)


Viewing page: 8 of 19
< Previous Discussion Page Next Discussion Page >
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
Posting comments is currently unavailable due to high demand on the server.
Please check back in an hour or more. Thank you for your patience!
The reason for giving this order, was not that Paul had something against women or of their abilities in teaching & using their other gifts & talents, but that within Church worship, before God & His angels, the prescribed order of ministry must be observed. And this he instructed young Timothy, who was left in charge of the ministry in Ephesus & generally in Asia Minor. As capable as women may be in teaching, within the Church, the task of administering, leading & teaching from the Word was incumbent upon the brothers. Elders who were ordained in every Church ( Acts 14:23) were men & they also had been enabled by God to teach & lead the flock of God.
Though 'Christianity' is not seen here because of the era of those events, we can note & take heed to grievous & sometimes, humiliating effect of alcohol consumption. Ephesians 5:18 warns Christians 'not to be drunk with wine, but rather to be filled with God's Spirit'. Don't fill yourself with alcohol that can lead one to sin & embarrassment, but fill yourself with the real, pure, enriching Spirit of God Who will lead us in what God requires of His children.
May God help you dear friend understand more from His precious Word, leading you into His Light & Salvation. We're here to help you & guide you in God's Word.
to answer your question Ronald:
according to acts 2 when they were speaking in tongues,
both man and woman were present.
Noticed what the prophet Joel prophesied.
Acts 2:16-18
all people can teach what they have learned from the bible.
but as far as authority. Adam was created first then eve was created as a
helper for Adam to take care of the earth- Genesis 2:18
what about "within" the congregation?
Ephesians 5:22-24; Titus 2:3-5
1 Timothy 3 within the Christian congregation or church...appointed ministers takes the lead in teaching the congregation or church. when a woman learn in silence 1Timothy 2:11, 12
within the congregation, this helps keep the congregation orderly. so in this instance. A woman doesn't have authority over a men within the congregation to teach nor over her husbands at home. however, husbands love their wives and listens to their concerns just as Jehovah ( Psalm 83:18) taught Abraham Gen. 21:8-12. Even Jesus; when he was at a house or on the roads he listened and asked woman questions. woman like Martha, Mary Magdalene, the Samaritan woman. he taught them and spoke to them with kindness. John 11:27; Luke 10:38-42.
if a woman sees something or has a question
...she can ask her husband at home.
1Corinthians 14:33-35
Hope this Helps. the bible is a light and shines for all to see.
john 3:16,17
1 Corinthians 2:14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
Christ is the MAN ( Ephesians 5:23), we (the church) are the WOMAN ( Galatians 3:28).
Christ is the TEMPLE (church)( Revelation 21:22).
Christ (the Spirit of LIFE and TRUTH) lives IN US ( Colossians 1:27); therefore we become the TEMPLE ( 1 Corinthians 3:16), ALSO.
We (the woman) are not to teach in the church (ourselves); but, the MAN (Holy Spirit) is to be our teacher.
1 John 2:27 But the anointing (Holy Spirit) which you have received of him (Christ) abideth in you, and you need not that any man (only Christ, the Holy Spirit)) teach you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as he hath taught you, abide in him (the WORD(S) of GOD).
(7a) ...After Judgment, the GRACE assembly Is Then Presented as A Glorious Church, To CHRIST Himself!... ( Ephesians 5:27)
(7b) ...And, Then CHRIST Will Present His Body, holy and unblameable and unreproveable, In His Sight, To His Father, In Heaven, Where we Live Forever And Ever! Amen! ( 1 Thessalonians 3:13; Colossians 1:5, 22; 1 Corinthians 6:3; 2 Corinthians 5:1-2)
Thus, we do "Know the order, and realize our place according to the grand scheme." = Today is GOD's PURE {Gospel Of} GRACE {Light} 'Offered' to all 'INDIVIDUALS,' and WHEN 'it ENDS' With HIS Great GRACE Departure {'Removing' ALL HIS 'ambassadors'}, only THEN Will Fall:
God's {OPPOSITE of GRACE} JUDGMENT In The Time of JACOB's TROUBLE {Tribulation, GREAT tribulation And Wrath in Woe, Dread, Terror, And DARKNESS}, for "ISRAEL And The UNbelieving Nations!"
Thus, question: Precious friend, WHY do you "DESIRE what is NOT our place according to the grand scheme"? ( Amos 5:18)
---------------------------------------------------------------
LORD JESUS, thank You so much for Your Precious BLOOD, Gift Of ETERNAL Salvation, And for Your Blessed Hope ofGlorification When You COME To Finally GATHER us HOME! Amen.
-------------------------------------------
our "place In The Grand Scheme"?:
( 2 Timothy 2:15; Romans 16:25; Ephesians 1:3-9; Ephesians 3:9) = Grace/Mystery 'fellowship,' today, Current, "But NOW!" Amen?
Precious friends, Please Be Richly Encouraged, Enlightened, Exhorted, Edified, And "COMFORTED With THESE Words Of God's Truth!" ( 1 Thessalonians 4:18)
1.The Red Horse: Peace taken from the earth.. They will slaughter one another (Civil wars, the deadly war WWI & WWII etc.)
2. The Black Horse: (Famine The Great depression etc.)
3. The pale Horse: Deadly plague...The Grave/Death ( 1918 influenza pandemic, HIV, Flu, Common cold,
Covid-19,Delta variant etc.)
Why is the world in critical condition?
Satan was hurled down from heaven and is misleading nations rulers and kings:
1 John 5:19; Genesis 3; Genesis chapter 6 and 9;
Luke and Matthew 4; Ephesians 6:11-13; Revelation 12:7-12;
2 Corinthians 4:4
What is the result of Satan the devil's influence:
2 Timothy 3:1-7
Matthew 24
1 Corinthians 6:9,10; Ephesians 5:5
What will Jesus do since his father gave him all authority?
( Matthew 24:14;28:18-20)
1. Revelation 11:15;20 Chapter
2. Revelation 11:18
3. John 5:28,29; Revelation 21:3-5;22 Chapter
Who is law for?
1 Timothy 1:8-10
2 Timothy 3:16,17
john 17:3
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any such thing;
The Lord Jesus gave his body in love, he sanctifies, cleanses, washes with the water of the word this glorious body, that he may give this body to himself.
Ephesians 5:28
So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
Husbands in the Lord will also sanctify, cleanse and wash with the word so that he and his wife are one in Christ Jesus a part of the glorious body, the church ready for the Lord to take this body to himself.
John 6:63 ....the words that I speak unto you, THEY ARE SPIRIT
1 Corinthians 3:1 And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto to you SPIRITUAL, but as unto CARNAL ....
Galatians 3:28 ....there is neither male or female, for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Ephesians 5:32 This is a great mystery, but I speak concerning Christ and the CHURCH.
Christ is the husband, we are the WOMAN (spiritually speaking), we are the Church (spiritually speaking). We are to KEEP SILENT before our husband and to keep SILENT in the CHURCH.
1 John 2:27 But the anointing which you (the woman) have received of him (your husband) abideth in you (the woman), and you (the woman) need not that any man teach you (the woman): but as the same anointing (your husband) teacheth you (the woman) all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it (your husband) hath taught you (the woman), ye (the woman) shall abide in him (your husband) (and you shall become one flesh).
1 Timothy 2:14 And Adam (Christ, spiritually speaking) was not deceived, but the WOMAN (the CHURCH, spiritually speaking) bring deceived was in the transgression.
1 Timothy 2:15 Notwithstanding she (the woman, the church) shall be saved in childbearing ....
Revelation 12:2 And she (the woman, the church) being with CHILD cried, travailing in birth, and pained to BE DELIVERED.
Part 2 of 3.
Paul was speaking to believers when he said:
Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, that he will also reap. For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life. And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart. - Galatians 6:7-9
I personally believe that's a law of God, just like the law of gravity. If a farmer sows corn, you can be sure that he'll reap corn. If he sows wheat, he'll reap wheat. My friend, as a believer, if you are sowing to the flesh, you "will of the flesh reap corruption." There is no way around it.
Now, the child of God does not have to produce these things. We can produce the fruit of the Spirit. God has another principle:
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control. - Galatians 5:22, 23
You can't produce these fruit by following the Law; in fact, there is not one of these lovely fruits that you can produce on your own. We are totally incapable; it can only be produced by the Holy Spirit."For the fruit of the Spirit,"Paul says in Ephesians 5:9,"is in all goodness, righteousness, and truth."You can know whether you are living by the flesh or living in the power, in the fullness, of the Holy Spirit by seeing if He is producing these fruits in your life.
Part 3 coming.
You've been a blessing from what I have seen. I had to go back and look at my message and it did look aimed at you and I apologize, I was using what you said to urge the brethren to contend for the faith and move on to maturity. It was an opening, but I should have been careful the way I presented it so it wouldn't seem personal, Let there light shine on Him that's in the midst of the LAMPSTAND.
I urge us to be careful because these attacks is not flesh and blood.
And I read your post concerning this as well. And it is true.
I believe Some is put on this site to teach if not it wouldn't be under such attacks.
I believe Satan is behind the scene on the distractions and lack of focus on the Gospel.
Ephesians 5:6-11. Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light:
(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
Here's a look at a hypocrite.
Matthew 23:25-26. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
Regeneration is in the HEART!! and will be manifested in our walk.
God bless you and all you do.
and keep up the great work.
I assume that you are referring to Ephesians 5:27: "That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish."
The phrase "not having spot or wrinkle" equals to the other phrase "without blemish." These blemishes, such as spots or wrinkles, refer to sin or secret faults.
I like to use the analogy of a white shirt. In order for the white to be perfect, there can be no stains, no spots, no wrinkles. If there is ANY kind of blemish, the shirt is no longer perfect.
God's desire for the church is to be spotless and wrinkle-less of sin!
Hello Helen,
Just a few scriptures that say about the bride/bridegroom.
Matthew 25:1-46 - Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.
Ephesians 5:27 - That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Mark 2:19-20 - And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber fast, while the bridegroom is with them? as long as they have the bridegroom with them, they cannot fast.
Revelation 19:7-9 - Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. (Read More...)
Revelation 21:2 - And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
Isaiah 54:5 - For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
Zelma Shalom
If we read those passages as given & understood, then we're liable to believe that the "evil" being spoken of in both verses is a moral or sadistic evil constructed by God. However, we must turn to the Hebrew to interpret that word. In both cases, the word for "evil" is from the same root word: Rah; and in both instances 'evil' is meant to imply 'calamity or adversity'.
So reading Isaiah 45:7: God both forms the light & creates darkness; if God chooses to remove the light, whether a physical light from the sun, we will have darkness. Or, He chooses to not give or prevent spiritual light coming to someone, then that mind lies in darkness (e.g. Ephesians 5:8, 1 Thessalonians 5:5).
Similarly, with "I make peace & create evil": God can choose to bring peace into a situation or within a person, or He can withhold that peace, & calamity or adversity prevails. So, when it says that God creates 'evil', it's impossible for an Holy God to bring out some evil from within Himself, when no such evil can even exist in such holiness. But God can remove light & peace for His Own purposes, thereby leaving distress & calamity.
Amos 3:6: in like manner, when a trumpet (of warning) is sounded, the people ought to be alerted & afraid of what's to come. If there is a calamity being struck in a city, shouldn't the inhabitants likewise be warned that maybe the Lord is trying to tell them something? Sometimes, not always, when we face an adversity or calamity in our lives, we need to seek the Lord's Face & examine our lives, lest there may be a word of warning from God for us. The Lord told Israel (through Amos) in verse 2: "You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities." Israel was greatly blessed, but they likewise also faced much warning & punishment for their sins & departure from God.
John 7:17 - If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
As we yield our members, servants to obey, we are led by His life in us.
Walking not according to this world, but weighing everying thing in view of eternity.
Christ in you, the hope of GLORY. Not willing that any should perish, we, by HIS GRACE bring light, transforming light must begin.....
..... that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Ephesians 5:17 - Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
Habakkuk 1:13, Romans 12:9, Philippians 3:2, Ephesians 5:11, John 3:20 - say to expose evil, not pander to them, appease them, or bow down and worship them as a false god. The end times are near and people will be soon tested to see who they are allegient to. Were they an accessory to murder by belonging to a group that mass murders babies, lets criminals out of prison to murder innocents, to let illegals in to spread disease, bring lethal drugs, and traffic children? Those supporting this will be held accountable. It's not too late to repent of this sin and to follow Jesus.
I agree, and what came to mind is I believe the Lord gave us marriage to communicate his love to the Church.
A husband and wife should model that relationship.
Ephesians 5:22-28. Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
For the HUSBAND IS THE HEAD OF THE WIFE, EVEN AS CHRIST IS THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH: and he is the saviour of the body.
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
( THAT HE MIGHT SANCTIFY AND CLEANSE IT WITH THE WASHING OF WATER BY THE WORD, )
THAT HE MIGHT PRESENT IT TO HIMSELF A GLORIOUS CHURCH, NOT HAVING SPOT, OR WRINKLE, OR ANY SUCH THING; BUT THAT IT SHOULD BE HOLY AND WITHOUT BLEMISH.
So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
""THAT GOD MIGHT SANCTIFY AND CLEANSE US!!!""
Mathew 19:5-6. And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and THEY TWAIN SHALL BE ONE FLESH?
Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, LET NOT MAN PUT ASUNDER
These verses remind me of Romans 8:28-39. No separation, No divorce. Nothing can separate us from the love of the Lord.
God bless
6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
8 But now ye also put off all these; ANGER, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the OLD man with his deeds;
Ephesians Chapter 4
24 And that ye put on the NEW man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.
25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another.
26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:
27 Neither give place to the devil.
Mishael Comment: This generation of people are very angry and do not pull back on those reins to stop it. We are to produce the FRUIT of the Holy Spirit. The evidence of Jesus's life being lived through us.
Galatians 5:22
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Ephesians 5:9
(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Romans 8:9
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
Matthew Chapter 12
32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall NOT be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come.
Selah. (Pause and think on these things)
I am very happy that you liked the post I put together of basically "sins or evil things" we should stay away from. I added a couple things though most of it is from the NT. I actually started taking notes of these things and have all the verses that I would like to share with you as it seems you are taking notes of these things also for your sermons. This will give you all the places, and a couple more, where I got those things I posted:
Mark 7:20-23, Romans 1:21-32, 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, Galatians 5:16-21, Ephesians 5:5, Hebrews 12:14, 2 Timothy 3:1-5, James 1:19-22, Colossians 3,
As some things are noted in several places so I had to delete things so they would not show up twice.
Knowing this may help you preaching to others I am very thankful to put in my little bit to help. All glory to the Lord.
God Bless you on your journey brother Gary.
He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.) True Christians will have the desire to separate themselves from any form of sin and in the process it will hurt some feelings. I love my wife, my children, but I Love God and Jesus more! Ephesians 5:11 ( And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.) Sometimes it is really hard to forsake all and follow Jesus, after its all done, it will be worth it! God bless and I hope maybe in someway this helps.
As Spencer wrote, Romans 1 is a good reference.
A long term sexual relationship (marriage) between a man and a woman is God's design. It is a physical example of Christ and the Church. Ephesians 5:31.. A same sex marriage is in defiance of God's design. How can God bless anything other than what He says is good?
Please tell your friend that she is being deceived. God will give her understanding if She turn to the Lord.
Ephesians 5:9-13. (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)
Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord.
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light.
2 Corinthians 6:14-18. Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.
However we are to minister the word to them.
I hope that helps,
God bless.
The Bible says many times to fear God. The Bible doesn't say to "not" fear God as you put it. 1 John 4:18 seems to suggest love and fear and opposites. Maybe these are mutually exclusive when it comes to how we treat others, but maybe God in an exception. The Bible clearly says to love God and clearly says to fear God. Therefore, I'm inclined to believe that it's both. Some say the fear means a high level of respect rather than a petrified fear. If anyone wants to compare the original Hebrew or Greek to see if its the same word or not, that might be helpful.
Proverbs 9:10, Ephesians 5:21, Jeremiah 32:39, Luke 12:5, Leviticus 25:17.
Drug use hinders us from being spiritually led, which can be dangerous to us whether Christian or not, How can you even hear the gospel that saves without the Holyspirit, Drug use distorts something on the inside the vessel that should be totally given over to the Lord.
Ephesians 5:14-19. Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise,
Redeeming the time, because the days are evil.
Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be ""FILLED WITH THE SPIRIT;""
Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
"Be not drunken with wine" The Emphasis is drunken, , "INFLUENCED by the wine is the danger here". But be filled with the spirit. INFLUENCED by the spirit is the blessing here!! they're contuary one to another. The focus is not on just wine, anything that hinders the work of the spirit.
It's not just what you will do while under fleshly influence, but what you want do what you want hear or anything the Holyspirit urges you to do.
At the base of all spiritual living & work, lies Christ's fully accomplished work on the Cross. And after successfully providing redemption & defeating the power of Satan to all who would believe, Jesus sent to us His Spirit to confirm, seal & establish our hearts in this new life.
So with the basis of the Cross & the Gift of the Holy Spirit, God's children are being prepared for higher service & a part of that preparation is the "equipping of the saints". Those believers who remain obstinate to the Spirit's urging, never grow spiritually, never receive the abundance of Heaven, & never impact others with Christ's Love.
The Spirit gives us much so that the Purposes of God are accomplished in the believer, in the Church & in the World. He has blessed us with those with particular Gifts for the building up of Christ's Church & to use to bless others. The power of the Gospel to the unsaved is found both in the power of God's Word & by the testimony of those so changed by it. The depth & richness from the Word comes from the Holy Spirit & in those whom He fills with such knowledge so that our knowledge might also increase. And not to mention the burden of praying saints, those giving of their substance, their time, their energies, & those who would get beside those under weight of some sin or temptation, all speak of the life-giving power of God to bring about His Purposes & blessings to others.
As Jesus prayed, "I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me." John 17:23: to the end that the Church may be found 'unified with the Godhead in perfection'. And this was the desire of the apostles: Jude 24; Ephesians 5:27; Colossians 1:27,28; Romans 12:1: that in the Day of Presentation, the God's people might stand pure, holy, & unashamed.