Christi Smith you are greatly Loved ,don't worry about your appearance man looks at appearance but God looks at your heart, we should all seek to please God and ask the Holy Spirit to comfort you,he is out helper,our comforter and our teacher,ask him to help you over come the fear of death according to Hebrews 2:15 and ask him to teach you how to trust in him according to Psalms 56:3 God bless you Jesus Loves you
Erichburg, great Truths you have declared there. Though I see the original question (from nine years ago!), was to do with Jesus position as part of the Deity, yet the Scriptures show Him praying to the Deity, which seems unreasonable. The question is valid, but the understanding of Christ's position in incarnation is defective. I would turn to Psalm 8:5 which is the prophecy alluded to in Hebrews 2:9: "But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man." Also Phil 2:6-9.
These verses give us a glimpse: who the Word of God made incarnate is, & was given (by the Father or He took upon Himself voluntarily), some of the limitations of humanity. Jesus was in Heaven (pre-incarnate) as the Word only (some could disagree with me on this). That is, He was not known as Jesus there, but was the Word that proceeded from God, as was the Spirit of God. In His incarnation, he was given the Name of Jesus ( Lk 1:31), simply meaning, 'Saviour', which was not His Position pre-incarnation. Therefore, as the man Jesus, Who is the Christ, resorted to His Heavenly Father often in prayer, this seems quite appropriate given His Humanity & His position before God & in the Deity. And I would presume that in His ascended position at His Father's right Hand, He still holds the position of equality with the Godhead, yet as a Son (both human & part of the Godhead). Is this how you understand this?
Following on my 1st response, Joshua. The JW also point out that Christ is a "a Son", John 3:16, 1 John 4:10. They see Him as a created being Hebrews 2:17. But they miss the point. Philippians 2:9 says Jesus was exalted, elevated to a higher position, promoted. But do these all miss the meaning of what is said? Is there a difference between Jesus the Son of Man, and Christ the Eternal Preexisting God, Creator of all things, Colossians 1:16.
It is that distinction that many fail to see. The Coptic Manuscript should not be taken on its own. It might be the oldest, but that doesn't mean it is correct. Taken in context is is clear the import is The Word IS God, 2 Peter 1:3. He is Devine.
Well, it looks like we have a dilemma. God has convinced you without a doubt of a post tribulation rapture, and He's convinced me of a pre-tribulation rapture. Now what? We're both convinced, and we both believe we are convinced by God's word, so now what? That's a question that no one seems to be able to answer. Have you ever been convinced that God showed you something, and then later find out it was wrong? I have.
I don't think there is any proof on who wrote Hebrews. It wasn't until the 3rd century that the council of Carthage added Paul's name to the letter. But they had no proof of that. There are theories out there as to who it might be, and Paul's seems to be the most popular. But no one knows for sure. I don't see it being Paul. It was written too eloquently. It was not Paul's style of writing. Paul seemed to be all over the place in his letters. Plus, Paul usually attached his name to all his letters.
Hebrews had to have been written by a second generation Christian because of what the writer stated in Hebrews 2:3. "How shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard Him. So whoever wrote Hebrews did not hear the Lord directly, nor did he receive from the Lord directly, but received and was confirmed and established for us, he being one of them, by those that heard Him.
Paul himself, as stated in Galatians 1:11-12 said, but I certify to you brethren that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man, for I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. So Paul is not a second generation Christian. And whoever wrote Hebrews is a second generation Christian.
Jesus is not talking about all believers. In Verse 14 to Verse 18, you can see that Jesus is commissioning the 11 before sending them out. They are the ones that will do these things, not just casting out demons, but all the things listed in Verses 17 and 18. It was for the 11 that Jesus was sending out.
We see the confirmation in Verse 20 where the 11 went forth, confirming the word with signs following.
Hebrews 2:2 tells us that when the apostles went out and preached that there were signs that followed in order to establish the apostles preaching as the gospel of God. And that is what he is saying here.
There were various signs that were worked by Jesus through the disciples in order to confirm the message they were hearing is the gospel. It doesn't say every person that believes down through history is going to manifest all these various things, but rather, for the confirmation of the establishment of the Word of God, which we have with us today. Therefore, we don't need signs!
Reading Ezekiel 28:12-19, Matthew 25:41, Hebrews 2:14 and Revelation 20:10, it is apparent that the end of Satan is destruction in the lake of fire. There is no savior for fallen angels. Thank the LORD that he so loved us and provided his Son Jesus Christ to pay the penalty for our sin.
How does one discern Signs and Wonders from God above, or from evil spirits?
Jesus said there will be no signs except the Sign of Jonah. Jesus fulfilled that sign with His Ressurrection. The other Sign of Jonah is preaching the Word.
So these TV Preachers are faking healings, visions, tongues, etc...
If there really was a sign, I wouldn't believe it.
in a word YES Jesus went to Abraham's bosom recorded in Luke 16. Before Jesus all the old testament saints went there. On the other side were the wicked who rejected the Lord.
Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. what was Jesus doing there? preaching the gospel
1 Peter Chapter 3: 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
fallen angels have no offer of salvation Hebrews 2:16
Falling away is Not The Rapture as a few suppose...Falling away has taken place right now...We are No Longer on Fire for The Lord. We are for Luke Warm and given to Idols and fornification both in and out of Churches....We are for the most part t he same as The Laodician Church.
The Great Trib is God's Way of Bringing Us To Repentance.. 2nd Chron 7:14 comes to mind.
John 1: I am in awe when I read about the mercies of GOD! What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou care for him? Hebrews 2:6; Psalms 8:4
1 Timothy Chapter 1: 9 Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers,
10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
2 Timothy Chapter 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers...
How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him...
Mark 13:32 But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Matthew 20:23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
Genesus 1:26 Let US make man, Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
GOD is One He Knows no other Gods Beside him. "Us" Is plural. "our" is plural. Genesis 1:1 God created the Heavens and the earth. "Heavens" was already created. Earth was without form and void He His the Lord Of Host also he dwells between the cherubims. The reason why he created man in his own image is because He will save His people from their sins. Hebrews 2:3-9 Hebrews 1:2-81Timothy 3:16
Jerry: Angels are ministering spirits Hebrews 1:14. We humans are made a little lower than the angels and Jesus came to this earth as flesh Hebrews 2:16 There is God the Father, His Son Jesus and the Holy Spirit, then there are Angels, then Man. There is a distinction between these three levels, man can have the spirit of God in him if he asks and repents of sin.Blessings, continue to study..
Jerry: As Adam stated, angels can appear as human but are not flesh and blood. Man is made from the dust of the ground Genesis 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground. Hebrews 2:16 He took not on him the nature of angels, but he took on him the seed of Abraham. Hebrews 1:7 And of the angels he saith, who maketh his angels spirits? Hebrews 1:14. Read Hebrews chapters 1 and 2.
Brianna, here are some more KJV Bible Scriptures that proves that Jesus Christ was Almighty God. Matthew 1:23John 5:23John 8:58John 14:9-11John 10:30-33John 20:28John 14:6-72 John 1:71 Timothy 3:161 Timothy 6:14-16Hebrews 2:17-18 Hebrews 4:15-16Hebrews 1:8-91 Peter 2:24John 15:13Romans 5:8Philippians 2:5-7.
Brianna, please read and ponder on these KJV Bible scriptures, and know that our Lord Jesus Christ was Almighty God. Titus 2:13Acts 20 28 Revelation 1:5-6Revelation 5:8-9Revelation 22:13Revelation 22:16Revelation 2:8Revelation 1:17-18Isaiah 9:6Isaiah 43:10-11Isaiah 44:6Isaiah 44:242 Peter 1:1John 1:3Colossians 1:16Colossians 2:9John 1:1-3John 5:17-18John 8:24.
I find that the mystery is for beyond our understanding. I know we acknowledge John 3:16 to be our salvation, but Genesis 1:26 fits well with this being the holy trinity
I found Hebrews 1,2 to paint a clear picture of who Jesus is and his role. He is the Son of God. It speaks about how he had to come down to earth as a human so that he could become a merciful and faithful high priest over God's children. He had to suffer to know how to rescue us who suffer. So Jesus wouldn't be almighty God, but he is appointed as God to be King over his kingdom. He was trained.
Psalms 8:5 and Hebrews 2:7 answers this. Jesus in human form was a little lower than angels, so same is true for other human beings. So, angels are superior.
Angels were created by God and given free choice to sin or not, Hebrews 2:7 we are created by God just a little lower than the angels and also have been given free choice to sin or not.
wow, the commentary by Henry for this chapter is very sobering. this book very well describes Jesus as the anchor of our souls. the first few verses remind us to be thankful for salvation and to hold onto it with all our strength. Also, the reminder that we have been bought for a price.
Just because someone is encouraging others in righteousness does NOT mean they don’t repent or get the plank out of their own eye first. Righteousness is still right, and sin not only separates us from God, but does lead to death. 1 John 3:15 15Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.
These verses give us a glimpse: who the Word of God made incarnate is, & was given (by the Father or He took upon Himself voluntarily), some of the limitations of humanity. Jesus was in Heaven (pre-incarnate) as the Word only (some could disagree with me on this). That is, He was not known as Jesus there, but was the Word that proceeded from God, as was the Spirit of God. In His incarnation, he was given the Name of Jesus ( Lk 1:31), simply meaning, 'Saviour', which was not His Position pre-incarnation. Therefore, as the man Jesus, Who is the Christ, resorted to His Heavenly Father often in prayer, this seems quite appropriate given His Humanity & His position before God & in the Deity. And I would presume that in His ascended position at His Father's right Hand, He still holds the position of equality with the Godhead, yet as a Son (both human & part of the Godhead). Is this how you understand this?
It is that distinction that many fail to see. The Coptic Manuscript should not be taken on its own. It might be the oldest, but that doesn't mean it is correct. Taken in context is is clear the import is The Word IS God, 2 Peter 1:3. He is Devine.
Well, it looks like we have a dilemma. God has convinced you without a doubt of a post tribulation rapture, and He's convinced me of a pre-tribulation rapture. Now what? We're both convinced, and we both believe we are convinced by God's word, so now what? That's a question that no one seems to be able to answer. Have you ever been convinced that God showed you something, and then later find out it was wrong? I have.
I don't think there is any proof on who wrote Hebrews. It wasn't until the 3rd century that the council of Carthage added Paul's name to the letter. But they had no proof of that. There are theories out there as to who it might be, and Paul's seems to be the most popular. But no one knows for sure. I don't see it being Paul. It was written too eloquently. It was not Paul's style of writing. Paul seemed to be all over the place in his letters. Plus, Paul usually attached his name to all his letters.
Hebrews had to have been written by a second generation Christian because of what the writer stated in Hebrews 2:3. "How shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation, which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard Him. So whoever wrote Hebrews did not hear the Lord directly, nor did he receive from the Lord directly, but received and was confirmed and established for us, he being one of them, by those that heard Him.
Paul himself, as stated in Galatians 1:11-12 said, but I certify to you brethren that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man, for I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. So Paul is not a second generation Christian. And whoever wrote Hebrews is a second generation Christian.
the tempter. We can do the same. Overcome the snares which the devil tries to set before us. I know that with Jesus's promises
and help that I will make it!
We see the confirmation in Verse 20 where the 11 went forth, confirming the word with signs following.
Hebrews 2:2 tells us that when the apostles went out and preached that there were signs that followed in order to establish the apostles preaching as the gospel of God. And that is what he is saying here.
There were various signs that were worked by Jesus through the disciples in order to confirm the message they were hearing is the gospel. It doesn't say every person that believes down through history is going to manifest all these various things, but rather, for the confirmation of the establishment of the Word of God, which we have with us today. Therefore, we don't need signs!
Jesus said there will be no signs except the Sign of Jonah. Jesus fulfilled that sign with His Ressurrection. The other Sign of Jonah is preaching the Word.
So these TV Preachers are faking healings, visions, tongues, etc...
If there really was a sign, I wouldn't believe it.
Your response, please!
Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. what was Jesus doing there? preaching the gospel
1 Peter Chapter 3: 18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
fallen angels have no offer of salvation Hebrews 2:16
The Great Trib is God's Way of Bringing Us To Repentance.. 2nd Chron 7:14 comes to mind.
10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;
2 Timothy Chapter 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers...
Matthew 20:23 And he saith unto them, Ye shall drink indeed of my cup, and be baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with: but to sit on my right hand, and on my left, is not mine to give, but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared of my Father.
Genesus 1:26 Let US make man,
Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
John 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
1 John 3:15 15Anyone who hates a brother or sister is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.