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Correction,

I meant Romans 10:14. But Romans 10:18 still applies!

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As I was saying, people sometimes use Romans 10:18 to defend those who they say never heard of Jesus or the gospel message of salvation. But they often miss the fact that Paul says in the very same verse, "but I say have they not heard? Yes they have. Their sound went out into all the earth and their words unto the ends of the world." They have already heard! In fact, Paul in Colossians Chapter 1, he talked about that the inhabitable world in his day had already heard the word. They had already heard the gospel. God reaches everybody about the truth and about the one true God.

Every human being that stands before God, and if they say, "Hey, I am illiterate. I didn't even know there was a Bible. I didn't hear the gospel." But God is going to say to them "What happened when my Spirit came to you and illuminated you and shined my light, my life into your spirit? Were you drawn to me or did you try to get away from me?

Not intellectually how did you process it, but spiritually, how was your response to the truth when God's Spirit brought the testimony of the truth to your life? It could have been at a time when mentally you were not even aware of it. But at some point or another, every human being will either be drawn to the light, or will turn away from the light, but every person will be illuminated in some way. It doesn't have to be with words. It does not have to be with language. It doesn't have to be with preaching.

Hello again Giannis,

Again, we do differ on this. I will share a few more of my thoughts, not to be argumentative, but to share what I believe. I believe that every single person will one day stand before God and will have to give an account. No person will have an excuse. To me, it does not matter that a person believes in "a god." What matters is that the person believes and surrenders their life to the one true God, Jesus Christ.

There is a tremendous principle being taught in John 1:9. Every single person that is born into this world is at some point enlightened to the truth. There will be no excuse. No one will be able to stand before God and say I didn't know the gospel message about salvation, but I was a good person and always made the right choices because my conscience told me to do so.

Jesus tells us in John Chapter 14 that no one can come to the Father except through Him. In other words, there is no salvation outside of Jesus Christ. So this would eliminate all those who believe in a god, regardless of who their god is, or how good of a person they were.

Psalm 19:1-4 says that creation, the language of creation goes throughout the world. There is no language that does not understand the language of creation. And creation speaks of the Creator. Also, Romans 1:19-20, Paul says that what is known of God is clearly manifest as God reveals the truth of the invisible God to every person.

As far as the Muslims, Buddhists, and all other religions who are worshipping a different god because they "never heard of Jesus," I would also say that they are all without excuse. Now I know some people like to use Romans 10:18 to support what they believe are people, such as primitive tribes, who have never heard the gospel message. They say how is that fair? And they use Romans 10:18, which says how will they believe if they don't hear a preacher? And how are they going to hear a preacher if no preacher is sent?

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Giannis:

It takes all the books of the PROPHETS to understand the PARABLE ( Matthew 13:34) of the rich man and Lazarus.

Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will DO NOTHING, but he REVEALETH his secret unto his servants the PROPHETS.

Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, if they HEAR NOT Mosses and the PROPHETS, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

No where in Moses and the prophets does it prophesy that anyone goes to heaven or hell. It prophesies that there will be a Kingdom of God.

The books of the prophets, prophesies, that the elect will BE BROUGHT through the fire; not avoid it.

It prophesies that only a third will be brought through the fire in this age; the others will go to the grave and wait for the resurrection to the next age.

Revelation is a second witness to the prophecies.

Zechariah 13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two thirds shall be cut off and die, and a THIRD shall be left therein ( Luke 17:34-35).

Zechariah 13:9 And I will bring the THIRD PART through the FIRE ..

Ezekiel 5:2 Thou shall burn with fire a THIRD part ..

Ezekiel 5:3 ..take THEREOF a few in number ..

Ezekiel 5:4 ...take of them again, and cast them into the midst of the fire, and burn them in the fire, for THEREOF shall a fire COME FORTH into all the house of Israel.

Obadiah 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a FLAME ....

Luke 16:24 ....for I am tormented in this FLAME.

Psalms 149:9 To execute upon them the judgement written, this HONOUR hath all his Saints.

Obadiah 1:21 And Saviours (those that have obtained the next age, the IMAGE OF CHRIST) shall come on mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau, and the Kingdom shall be the LORD'S.

Zechariah 12:8 And in that day ( Revelation 20:9) shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David, and the house of David shall be as (the image of) GOD, and the angel of the LORD before them.

Hey Giannis,

Thanks, I agree, many will burn in the lake of fire, but no one will be cast into it until Rev. 20:15 not before. I believe this is a parable and you do not and that's ok. If we look at the context, Jesus was directing it to the Pharisees who was highly educated, who was being snooty.

I agree the story fits Greek mythology but in the Old or New Testament scripture does not support an after-death place we go before resurrection; I have not found one verse that says we, as man, go or are taken to heaven. Do you know one?

My understanding of scripture death is sleep; scripture tells us there is no knowledge of time until we are resurrected. Greek philosophy of death from Socrates, Plato, death is the separation of the soul/spirit from the body that is falsely said to be immortal. This has (in my understanding) intertwined into Christianity teaching.

There is only one group of angels that are locked in chains of darkness, the ones in 2 Peter 2:4 and Jude 1:6. These left their own habitation, and God locked them in darkness for what they did against God's creation. Satan, other fallen angels, and devils/demons are on this earth even today.

In Matt. 27 it just seemed different to use another word for resurrection than the Greek word "anastasis" used all the other times for resurrection. It was John 5:25 When Jesus said the hour is coming and now is, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and shall live. These are the ones I believe when Jesus cried out came out of their graves. John 5:28-29 will be the final resurrection. Hope that makes since.

The different times in Mark and John I will have to go with everything else that was written. There is not a contradiction between John and Mark, Jesus was nailed to the cross and stood up on the 3rd hour, 9AM the same time the first lamb of the Tamid was put on the altar on Passover day, the preparation day for the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, a sabbath day.

God bless,

RLW

Hello Jesse

About the people that have not heard of Jesus you quote Romans 1:20. OK but in those verses people will not have an excuse for not believing in the existence of God. But God who? Muslims believe in God, but in another God. So for the muslims that in the past never heard of Jesus but still believed in a God (the one they knew), how is God going to judge them? This is where, I think, verses in Romans 1:11-16 come in. In my understanding they will be judged according to their life, according to what they know it is right, according to what their consience says to them, and we all know that there is not a single man in the world who doesn't know what is right or wrong. How strict is God going to be to them? One cannot know really.

But even for the other religions today who have heard of Jesus, is it enough that they have heard of Jesus? Is that considered that Jesus was preached to them? Ans if Jesus was actually preached to them, without any proof, say by those denominations like Catholics etc, is this enough? In verse John 15:24 it says "If I had not done among them the works which none other man did, they had not had sin: but now have they both seen and hated both me and my Father." Which means, if I get it right, that if the one who preaches about Jesus is unable to bring forth a proof that God exists people do not sin if not believing. See what Paul writes in 1 Corinthians 2:4-5 "And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God."

Paul's preaching was not just words but with proof of God's power. Paul Himself wouldn't believe in Jesus if Jesus didn't appear to him. Same with Sergius Paulus in Cyprus, same with the guard in Philippii. So we see that Gospel was preach with proof



Now let's go to us nowadays. Is it enough that we preach the Gospel without the power that God showed in the early times?

GBU

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Hello Ronald

I have read your post to Grae and I have everything into consideration. A few things i thought about...

In the parable/real story of those two persons Jesus is recorded to use the name Hades (or Ades). This name really comes from the ancient greek mythology, it was a horrible place where the souls of the dead spent the eternity in a form of like shadows in a condition of semi-awareness. In Ades there was a place called the Elysia fields where the souls of heros and virtuous people live in joy. There was another place called Tartarus which was the most horrible and deepest place of Ades. The whole thing resembles a lot with the description in Luke. Also the name/place Tartarus (together with the name Abyss=bottomless in greek) is used by Paul as the place where demons are imprisoned if they disobey God. Luke was Greek, his gospel was written for the Greeks, so it is logical that he may have used pictures from their mythology to make them understand better what he talks about. Paul also used greek names since he mainly preached the gospel in Greece. Also the Septuagint ancient translation of the OT from Hebrew to Greek uses the name Ades where the Hebrew text uses the word "Sheol". So greek speaking Jews at that time were familiar with the word Ades and what it represants.. But I find it hard to believe that Jesus originally used greek names in his preaching to Jews. He most probably used the name "Sheol", and it seems very unlikely that He used greek representations to teach ordinary and mainly uneducated Jew people. He most probably used images from the Old Testament. So everything is in consideration... Nevertheless the point is that people who do not believe in Jesus and die in their sins will have a horrible end, which will last forever.

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Ronald

Now in verse Matthew 27:53 the word "egersis" literally means "rising" and is another way of saying resurrection, like rising from the dead. If I understand well, you mean that those people that were resurrected were the ones that Jesus meant in John 5:28-29 so as to prove to Jews that He is the Son of God? Right? But verse 29 says "And shall (the resurrected people) come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation." So it seems to me that Jesus talks about the future resurrection of the dead and the consequent judgement. Anyway ...

Now I also have a question. What time was Jesus crucified? In Mark 15:25 it says 3rd hour, that is 6+3=9 o'cock in the morning. Right? But in John 19:14, it is 6th hour (12 at noon) and Jesus is still standing infront of Pilatus.

GBU

Hey Giannis,

Hope you don't mind, I read your posts. I do not know if you read my post to Gary in this thread, but you commented on the Greek words in the, (my understanding a parable) Luke 16. And you spoke on Matt. 27:51-52. My understanding of this comes from what John wrote of what Jesus said.

In John 8 they were pressing Jesus who He was, and He said this in vs. 28 he does nothing of Himself, but He said when you have lifted up the Son of Man then you will know I am He. Then In John 5:25-29 Jesus said the hour is coming and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God and they shall live. Now is not later Jesus is saying now which He is talking about what is written in Matt. 27.

In vs 28 Jesus said marvel not at this for the hour is coming in which all that are in the graves shall hear His voice, (but He did not say and now is). This goes to your comment on the final resurrection, but I will not comment on that now.

In Matthew 27 Jesus had been hanging on that cross since 9 AM going on 6 hours, and I am sure He was going in and out of consciousness and when Jesus cried out for the last time, He may have come to which in my understanding refers to the word resurrection used in vs 53. You will know the Greek better than me, but it is a different word than the other words used for resurrection. it is egersis, meaning resurgence not necessarily from death.

But my understanding is when Jesus cried out all these things happened, the veil of the temple rent, earthquake, the rocks rent, and the graves were opened, many bodies of the saints which slept arose and went into the city and appeared to many. As you said like Lazarus.

To me vs 54 confirms what Jesus said in John 8:28 truly this was the Son of God. Many knew they just killed the Son of God. "Then shall ye know that I am He"

God bless,

RLW

Hi Giannis,

Thanks for sharing. You make some very interesting points. I think we are slightly different with each other on some of these things, but hey, I guess there are probably a few other ways we can look at it also.

To answer your question about people who never heard the gospel message of salvation through Jesus Christ, I would have to say that they are without excuse. They will not be able to stand before God and say "we never heard." Romans 1:20 says, For the invisible things of Him, (that is of God), from the creation of the world, (from the time of creation up till now), the invisible things of God, and notice the clarity: are clearly seen, no confusion!

The comprehension: being understood by the things that are made, that is by creation. And then there's a clause at the end of Verse 20 that is an apposition to invisible things, meaning equal to. When it says for the invisible things of Him, I have to ask myself, what does he mean by that? He says even his eternal power and Godhead;

But notice the conclusion: "so that they are without excuse." And as you are aware, the word excuse, Apologea, is where we get our word apologetics from it. It is a legal term that means defense. People have no defense whatsoever. Not one human being is ever going to be able to stand before God and say "I didn't know!" And we are not talking about what registers in the mind. We're talking about what God illuminates or enlightens in a person's conscience or spirit.

Something else I take note of is Psalm 19:1-4, "The heavens declare the glory of God. And the firmament shows His handywork. Day unto day utters speech and night unto night shows knowledge. There is no speech nor language where their voice is not heard." Verse 3 really stands out to me, "There's no language or speech that God's creation cannot reach."

Again, no one will have an excuse. God uses creation to testify of His existence.

Plus, I think most Muslims and Buddhists know of Christ but reject Him.

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Hello Jesse

I agree with you that the parable of rich man and Lazarus is actually a real story but some details in this story make me have some questions in my mind. Fistly as I said before what are those flaims/fire? Since both persons have no material bodies but are just souls then how come the rich man is burned by flames(physical flames?). Secondly reading the story you will see the words torments/tormented in the English text in verses 23,24,25. In the greek text the word "basanois" is the word for torments in v23, which is OK. But in the other two verses the word "odynomai/etai" is used for tormented. But this word is mainly used in greek for spiritual/psycological pain, not physical pain. Why is then the rich man begs for water(physical water?)? Can it be that this story is just fantastic? Jesus just wanted to make people realize the consequences of not believing in Him and told a completely imaginary story? Just womdering.

Now lets go to Matthew 27:51-52

"52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,

53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many."

Fistly there is a mistake in the position of comma in verse 53. The comma is after the word grave not the word resurrection, so it becomes "And coming out of the graves, after his resurrection went into the holy city and appeared unto many". This is the proper sentence.

You are asking, are these all of the OT saints? My belief is no they are not. It says "many bodies", not all. Secondly iF they were all the OT saints, which they must be many many millions of them, the whole land of Israel would be full of them, vastly more than the living Israelites at that time, which I find hard to believe. I believe that those were godly people that have recently died and were resurrected, lived the rest of their lives as before and died sometime later on, like Lazarus bro of Martha and Maria.

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Jesse

About resurrection It seems to me there are 3 of them.

1. A pretribulation resurrection during the rapture of the saints to meet Jesus in the air. Are OT sains included? There are two opinions (I dont know which is right). The first opinion says they will be included. Those who believe that use the verse in Hebrews 11:40 "God having provided some better thing for us (the christians), that they without us should not be (the OT saints) made perfect. Others says that only the Bride of Christ, the church, will be caught up. Verses about the Marriage of Christ with His Bride church are used by those who have the second opinion.

2. A resurrection of all those that will not accept the mark of the beast and will be slaughtered during the reign of the antichrist. They will be resurrected just before the second coming of Christ, just before the fight of Armagedon. This is obvious since they will reign on earth together with Jesus for 1000 years.

3.The final resurrection of all the rest of people that died thought the centuaries, just before the Final Judgement.

Now, what is your belief about people to whom Christ was never preached (like muslims, budhists etc)? I believe that they will be judged (and be saved) according to their good life/good works as their conscious says to them. Romans 2:11-16

God Blessings.

Gary Myers,

We sleep in death until we are resurrected.

If I may give my understanding.

Luke 16:19-31 First, we must understand this is a parable, and the parables Jesus told he had to explain for his disciples to understand and he did not explain this one. We cannot take this passage as a literal description.

In the context of Luke 16, Jesus is talking to Pharisees and scribes about stewardship, love of riches, adultery and no servant can serve two masters. The Pharisees were covetous, they flaunted their wealth and the seat of authority they had. Is this parable describing a holding place where the redeemed can live in peace but can look and even talk across a vast chasm with the sufferings of the sinners in torment?

The Babylonian Talmud speaks of "Abraham's Bosom" as the place that righteous Jews went after they died. The Jewish people of the time of Jesus had been influenced by Babylonian and Hellenistic Greek cultures, and that influence is still today.

Jesus was probably using a common image from that culture to create a picture that they could relate to their final destination. This parable also does not fit all of the scripture if we receive our reward as soon as we die, as said, we go to heaven or hell.

Many scriptures tell us when we will receive our reward and it is not when we die. Here are just a few and they all agree it is at the second coming of Jesus Christ. Matthew 16:27 1 Corinthians 1:7-8 1 Corinthians 15:22-23 1 Thessalonians 2:19 Revelation 22:12

John wrote this a while after Jesus ascended, he said Jesus was in heaven, "Son of man which is in heaven", John 3:13. Peter said David is dead and buried and his sepulcher is with us unto this day, and he has not ascended to heaven. Acts 2:29-34

The day of redemption, Eph. 4:30 1 Cor. 15:52 1 Thess.4:16 (not descend) and many more.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Giannis,

I believe those were literal flames but not the flames of Hell. This was Hades. There is no one in Hell yet. I do believe that there will be a future resurrection of the dead. In fact, there will be two, one for the New Testament saints that Jesus comes for at the time of the rapture, and then a future resurrection after the 1,000 year reign of Christ for all those who rejected Christ, and they will be cast into the lake of fire (Hell).

As far as resurrection from the dead goes, what would be your understanding of Matthew 26:52-53? I understand those to be Old Testament saints who were resurrected shortly after Jesus' resurrection. These would have been all the saints who were in Abraham's Bosom. I believe that not only were they were resurrected, but they were also seen by many in Jerusalem.

But as far as the presentation of the rich man and Lazarus given to us in Luke 16:19-31, the theme that I see all the way through is that Jesus is talking about the contrasts between this earthly life and the spirit realm, earthly life and the Kingdom of God. There is no greater contrast than in Verses 19 through 31, the presentation of the rich man and Lazarus. I call it a presentation because it is not a parable as some bibles call it. This is the story of true people. And these two people are opposites. They are in contrast to each other as far as people in their conditions in their earthly life, contrast in their death, and then after life throughout eternity is another contrast.

Blessings to you also!

Jesse, Thanks for responding.

Like 16 is sure some interesting reading.

Hello Jesse

I was just wondering...since the rich man and Lazarus are just souls, no bodies, as the resurrection of dead has yet to happen, what are those flames? Material? Spiritual? A metaphor for something else? What's your opinion?

GBU

Gary,

I don't believe there is any place in scripture that would indicate that our loved ones who have passed away can see us or feel our love for them. I do however think that those who have passed away can remember their past life on earth. We see this in the story of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16:19-31. The rich man was tormented in this flame which tells us that he was not saved and that he still had a sense of feel because he asked for Abraham to cool his tongue. He also remembered his brothers on earth who were not saved because he asked that someone would be sent to testify to his brothers.

I find that story to be quite interesting. Here's this rich man being tormented in these flames, and he doesn't ask Abraham to get him out, but that he would just cool the tip of his tongue. Either he didn't want out because he didn't want anything to do with Jesus, or he knew that it was impossible for him to be saved after he had died in a state of rejection.

Thoughts may enter into our head through a temptation, including an opportunity to sin that we didn't even expect or something we didn't plan for, but we still have a choice. It's a choice to dismiss those, to pray it away, to replace it with wholesome thoughts, and a choice to walk away from temptation. 1 Corinthians 10:13

I have wondered the same thing about dreams, for example, because they too are thoughts and we appear to have no choice or control of it. I don't believe we can sin in dreams, but can through thoughts while awake. I also believe someone taking drugs or alcohol and is in a weird state of consciousness is 100% responsible for their sin even if they don't remember it. That is one of the dangers of taking things that lower our inhibitions. The verse James 1:15 explains it well how a temptation in a sense develops into or gives birth to sin.

Dear Donna. Thoughts are thoughts and you can't stop them coming into your mind. Some are ours, some are put there by satan and some by God. When you realize that a thought is sinful just throw it away. If you don't and keep it in your mind and start "working" on it, it will eventually go down into your heart and then possibly will lead you to commiting a sin. So once you start working on it (which means that you have accepted that idea), it becomes a sin. ( James 1:14-15)

A friend once said that metaphor "You can't prevent birds sitting on the branches of your tree but you can send them away."

GBU

Men are never spoken of in Scripture as "spirits".

Man has a spirit, but he is not "a spirit", for a spirit hath not flesh and bones".

In this life man has "flesh and blood", a "natural" (or psychical) body.

At death this spirit "returns to God Who gave it" ( Ps. 31:5. Eccles. 12:7. Luke 23:46. Acts 7:59).

In resurrection "God giveth it a body as it hath pleased Him" ( 1Cor. 15:38). This is no longer a "natural" (or psychical) body, but a "spiritual body" ( 1Cor. 15:44).

,,, There are two sides to paradise, which us where we all go when we die,,, Heaven and a Prison ,,, which IS where God is, wherever God is that's Heaven ,,, those who make the first resurrection when they die go to the Heaven side,,,,, those who don't, go to prison,,, there is a great fixed gulf that separate's them,,, read Luke 16,,, the parable of the Rich man, and Lazarus, a powerful lesson.

Satan is the son of perdition, not Judas btw.

I would like to know if there is anything in the Bible that tells if our loved ones that passed away before us can see us and feel our love for them.

Luke 16:19-26. The only passage that Jesus Himself talks about where a person goes after he dies. There is Heaven and Hell. I pray all will be saved. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:2; 1 John 4:10.

Luke 23:43

Acts 1:25; John 17:12 Judas Iscariot is the son of perdition. He went to his own place. Revelation 17:8

Isaiah 5:14

Romans 16:25-27

John 3:16 I pray many will be saved. Keep the Faith, trust only and believe in the blood of Jesus Christ. Nobody can save themselves. We give glory to God for He gave us a free gift, a gift of Grace, the grace of God that is available to all.

Hope this helps.

Does the Bible say anything about what takes place after our last breath of life on earth?

The shrinks like to say we get angry because we are afraid. The issue often is when we know something to be right; and people don't listen to what we say. There are also cases where we want something we can't have or are retaliating to someone else's bad behavior.

With anything else; it helps to look at the scriptures and meditate on them day and night ( Joshua 1:8). Obviously; we need to ask the Holy Spirit to remove things that would be roots of bitterness ( Hebrews 12:14-16). The evidence of bad fruit from a corrupt heart is found in the gospels ( Matt. 15:19). Other verses such as 1 Peter 2:1-2 and Ephesians 4:26-32 offer further advice.

I hope you will trust the Lord for these changes; not yourself. I found that after the anger that came from a contentious divorce after my wife had an affair was dealt with by much prayer; and counselling based on a study in the Book of James. (see James 1:19). God can and will give you unconditional love even toward your enemies. That was how I was able to forgive my dad after years of mental abuse; by telling him that I loved him. It is helping me having to live with him now.

Agape..Rich P

Please Lord I pray that Q has a personal relationship with you and I ask You Holy Spirit enrich Q with your spiritual gifts that he will have comfort and guidance. Please let opportunities open for Q to have assistance and support that they need I pray in Jesus Name!!

May I suggest finding a church that has a bible study and seek support there.

If you have a bible, please consider reflecting on these chapters and scriptures:

- Psalms 91

- 1 Chronicles 4: 9-10

- James 1:2-4

- Ephesians 6:10-15

- Philippians 4

- 2 Corinthians 12: 7-10

Great decision, to read throughout the Bible!!

Please start with : James 1:5,

It's amazing over many years of reading, rereading & studying, GOD can teach us something new every time. Hopefully you'll continue to read it several times.

Son's of GOD = Genesis 6:2, notice: Genesis 4:26, = John 1:12, Romans 8:14, Philippians 2:15, 1John 3:1, 2

Job 1:6, Job 2:1, = notice the vrs. right before, Job 1:5, & right before, Job 2, Job 1:20-22, Revelation 12:10,

Hopefully these are helpful in your study

Randy,

A Christian since 1968, very encouraging! Especially that you're reading throughout the Bible again into study! I hope you'll keep us in your study as you go. Many of us enjoy deep study & thought in the WORD of GOD.

There seems to be several scriptures to verify your thought, of multiple people: Genesis 1:27, let them have dominion over ._... fish, of the sea, fowl of the air, over every living thing, that moveth upon the earth.

Genesis 4:1,2,8,13,14, Notice Genesis 4:13-17, Genesis 4:25,

also notice by now to continue for some people to try to say "only Adam & Eve" would be to ignore all the facts of other people listed.

Genesis 4:19,23,24,

Genesis 5:1-2, interestingly they both male & female named "Adam"

If you look in the Concordance by clicking on Genesis 1:27, man = mankind, human spelled English translated = the Hebrew name Adam sounds (aw-dawm)

Please also notice Genesis 6:5,7,12,17, why would GOD destroy the whole earth if only Adam & Eve, 1 lineage which is listed in the records of Genesis were only on Earth?

Genesis 5:3, Genesis 2:7,8,15,22, Romans 5:14, 1Corinthians 15:45, 1Chronicles 1:1, Luke 3:21-38,

Sometimes we have to ask questions

1st does an interpretation represent GOD's Laws, standards, examples? Leviticus 20:17, 1Corinthians 10:13, James 1:13-15, Proverbs 11:1,

2nd What is the main points GOD is pointing us to? Romans 5:17-21,

3rd, does it feel right, truthful, honest in our spirit? John 14:26,27, James 1:5, 1John 2:27-29,

I believe the reason anyone has questioned outside what is written, is because false teaching: Note: 1John 2:26-29, 2Peter 2:1, 2Timothy 3:1-5,

1John 4:1, 1Timothy 6:3-6,

Hopefully these are all helpful in your study

Suze In the gospels the adversarys kingdom was made known by JESUS CHRIST, in the old testament many times anything done

in the category of the spiritual they believed the true God was the cause of all. Yet clearly we read in the beginning of Job that

satan caused all his calamity because of Job 3:25 his greatest fear hit him. Now I was taught that God was tempting and trying

Job but can't be because of James 1:13 GOD cannot be tempted neither temp he any man. Job never blamed God for his error.

Also remember in Exodus 20:4 Thou shall not make any graven image or likeness that included what was written so even when

it was the enemy working they put down Lord or god with small g. But remember in the gospels the theif or the adversary

cometh not but to steal kill and destroy, thats his operation not the true GODS.

Hello Richard There's one thing in your commentary that I find questionable biblically, since God almighty and all knowing

knows the devil is god of this world because it was handed to him in gen. look at luke 4:5-7 also in JAMES 1:12-17 all good

and perfect gifts come from the father of lights, also God can't be tempted neither tempt He any man. I see biblically where

that's true in respect to accomplish what he wants to bring to pass according to what His Word promises. Even in our lives

we are so to speak spiritually untouchable as long as we walk spiritually in CHRIST althiough our physical bodies die daily.

Hi Jan,

I don't believe a specific pre-scripted prayer is necessarily the answer. Cry out to the Lord and look up His promises in His word (for example all the promises He has made to deliver those who call on His name or those He made to protect and so on.) Pray based on these promises. I believe the Father loves when we pray in accordance with His word. Not in a name-it-claim-it type of way but rather expressing our faith in what He said He would do. You can also ask the Father to send you angels to defend you based on His promises (e.g. Ps 91, 34, Hebrews etc.). Also based on James 1:5 pray for wisdom on how to specifically pray and guidance on where perhaps repentance is needed. Just a few thoughts..