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Chris,

Great feedback as always:

A foundational aspect which I find myself defending (as the minority position) is the debate between Law vs. Grace as well as Works vs. Grace.

I find myself in the position of believing that we are in need of the Law. We are also in need of Works. And most of all, we are in need of the Grace given to us through faith in Jesus Christ.

I will give my opinion based upon your alphabetic structure

a) I believe that we are ALL "God's "elect,"

Israel is "elect" for all the reasons you mention.

Christians are "elect" because Scripture says so ( Colossians 3:12, 1 Thessalonians 1:4).

b) I agree, and will add that God NEVER intended or believed Israel could fulfill the Law. The Law was given to Israel (and all who cared to follow) for proper ceremonial worship, and for guidance, and for correction.

c) I agree and will add that Jesus not only fulfilled the Law perfectly as a Jew, but also as a man.

d) While I can (partially) agree with you that Christ came to fulfill the Law (of ordinances, i.e. blood sacrifice, not the entire Law), I believe that the MAIN REASON Jesus was promised by God to all of mankind can be found all the way back in Genesis 3:15. At that particular point in time, Adam and Eve were the only two people on the planet to have partaken in sin.

God knew that Israel would backslide. That is why the Savior was promised right from the beginning of the fall of man, thousands of years before the nation of Israel ever existed.

The promise of Genesis 3:15, however, has to do with the DEATH of Jesus, and the result of His crucifixion can be found in Hebrews 2:14.

"Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;"

That is the PRIMARY reason Jesus was promised, and is the (partial) fulfillment of that promise of Genesis 3:15; partial because Satan is not dead yet.

Ephesians Predestination, is this the Calvin teaching.

I would like to share with me the meaning of this version: PSALM 91: 1-2 and verses 15-16...

Thank you and God bless.

Hope to hear from you soon.

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So, I suppose that's why Paul encouraged believers not to judge one another over various matters ( Col 2:16) which are a shadow of things to come, as each one led by the Spirit does according to his belief & conviction. So, No, I don't ascribe to the 10 Commandments, but His Spirit in me I know takes me far beyond them & to all who are led of the Spirit of God.

And by the way, which calendar do you follow & how does that impact in your daily life?

Also, Col 2:14 & Eph 2:15: the Gk is 'dogmasin', meaning 'an opinion, or a public decree': a little open-ended.

May the Lord help us in the study of His Word & I appreciate your time.

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g. what then is the response to those who require obedience to God's Laws (for both Jew & Gentile) & also to enjoy Christ's salvation? If we keep the Law, then we are bound to it & its demands (Js 2:10). If we belong to Christ through His Gift of Salvation, then we are bound to His Spirit Who imputes God's Laws in our hearts. Rom 8:1-5: I see the key words here (as pertaining to our discussion) as "the righteousness of the Law" (v4).

Someone has said that there were 600 Laws given for the Jews to obey. I agree that the Law is no way negated or abolished, but the whole essence of that Law, was to bring guilt & condemnation so that Israel might look to God in faith knowing that their ability to keep the Law failed before God. And now, that same Law, but no longer by the letter, is imputed into the believers' hearts enabling them to know, understand & obey them by the guidance & power of the Spirit. Will it still be the 10 Commandments for us to obey? What sayeth the Spirit of God to our hearts? Surely it will be the righteousness of the Law, that which surmounts the letter. Just as the Jew knew the Law forbad adultery, but that Law didn't stop him from what Jesus spoke of in Mt 5:28. Jesus spoke of the Law's righteousness, & this Law is in our hearts that we might be convicted of it. The Jew knew that the Sabbath was Holy with its requirements: the Spirit speaks of the blessed rest we have in Christ, one now for those who have come to Christ ( Mt 11:28,29), & the rest yet to come ( Heb 4:1-11).

Hi again Greg & thanks for your input & trouble you've taken over this very important subject. While our travels are restricted because of this pandemic & being in retirement, I find that I can give some 'extra' time to valuable discussions such as these, as it also helps me focus on specific Scriptures which I might have ordinarily glossed over.

Again, you've raised a number of questions worthy for thought but I will focus on the foundational aspect on which I base my belief & premise: Is the Christian commanded or obliged to keep the Law?

a. to whom was the Law given? Only to God's elect, Israel: ( Lev 26:46).

b. why was it given? For their good ( Deut 10:13); to reveal Himself to His people ( Lev 19:2, Deut 31:12,13); to set Israel apart (sanctify them) as a witness to other nations ( Lev 20:8, Deut 28:1, 9-10); and to reveal humanity's need of a Saviour ( Rom 3:20, 7:7, 8:3,4).

c. did not Jesus obey the Law? As a Jew, He fulfilled it perfectly ( Mt 5:17) & the Law will remain unchanged till it reaches its intended purpose (v 18).

d. if that is so, then why did Jesus have to come & give His life for mankind? What the Law was unable to do, only Christ could do ( Rom 8:3).

e. then what did Christ's sacrifice do to the Law? To those who still keep the Law, they have to obey it perfectly, or be guilty of all (Js 2:10). To those who are convinced that they are guilty under the law, find forgiveness by faith in Christ, apart from the Law ( Rom 3:28).

f. can a Christian then still be under (keep) the Law (putting himself under Jewish Law) & have salvation through Christ's Blood? Impossible, for the Law could only reveal one's sin which lead to death. But now all who are in Christ (Jew & Gentile) are delivered from that law of death, believing & serving God in the spirit & not according to the letter ( Rom 7:5,6).

An experience as a thief. Correctly I was judged to die. By mercy, I was found near the Savior's Cross, and I saw the Lamb's life and witnessed his Word and Blood and believed and cried out in Repentance. By his Word I was saved and entered into His rest in the Sabbath. On the following day, the first day of the week, which would be the eighth day, I awoke with Him in the Tomb, laid aside my old life and with a circumcised heart I followed Jesus out of the tomb in a risen life and was directed to meet with brethren of a like precious faith.

Steve,

I will share briefly my understanding of each one.

1) I believe the bible speaks of more than one book of life. I believe there is a book of life that everyone who has been born into this world is recorded into. And then I believe that there is the Lamb's book of life that everyone who has been born again by the Spirit of God is recorded into. As far as who makes the entries, I don't think that God actually has pen and paper writing down all the names of those who received Him. He already knows those who belong to Him. The other book of life may have been some register that recorded a person's name when they were born. We still have that today.

2) I look at the story of the rich man and Lazarus and I see that there were two compartments, Abraham's Bosom, and Hades. I believe that Abraham's Bosom was paradise. Right now, I believe there is only one side left, and that's Hades. I believe Christ descended into the lower parts of the earth and released those who were in Abraham's Bosom and took them with Him. This is also my understanding of why Christ told the thief on the cross that today you will be with me in paradise. How individuals were assigned was determined by whether a person belonged to God or not at the point of death.

3) The Great White Throne Judgment is a judgment that only non-believers, those who reject Christ, will have to face. Believers will also be judged, but we stand before the Bema seat of Christ. Our judgment is not for salvation or damnation, but for reward/s. That which is of Christ, we will receive a reward for. That which is not of Christ will burn in the fire, but we ourselves will be saved.

4) The lake of fire was created for the devil and his angels. Satan will eventually be cast into the lake of fire, along with all his angels. Non-believers, those who have rejected Christ will stand before the Great White Throne Judgment, and they too will be cast into the lake of fire.

Chris,

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As Paul states in Hebrews 4:11: "For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, AS GOD DID FROM HIS."

When did God rest? The 7th day.

When did Jesus rest? The 7th day.

When did the Apostles rest AFTER CHRIST DIED? The 7th day.

Was Peter wrong for observing the health laws laid out by God in the book of Leviticus well AFTER Christ had died? Why was he following these laws if ALL had been fulfilled in Christ ( Acts 10:12)?

God explained what is clean and unclean. Did Christ make all unclean food clean again? Answer: No. But I am not going to judge a new Christian (in meat) for eating a ham sandwich; however I will politely and gently point him to Leviticus 11.

"ALL" has not been fulfilled, therefore the LAW still exists. ( Matthew 5:18).

The student of God's word needs to be clear as to what "ORDINANCES" ( Ephesians 215, Colossians 2:14) have been taken out of the way (such as blood sacrifice) and what LAWS (7th day, health) are still in effect.

To answer your questions:

All believers look to take one day off a week, per order of God. I don't think anyone is condemned for trying to understand it as clearly as possible. As I said over and over, I am not the judge and ignorance is not a sin.

Could the 7th day vs. the 1st day be, as you state, "a possible divider of those that are granted eternal life from those that are rejected," I would reply that the ONLY thing that will not be forgiven you in the flesh is if you reject the Holy Spirit from speaking through you if and when the time comes.

On a side note Chris, I appreciate your feedback and I am amazed at your ability to respond to various people at the same time. These comments and replies take me forever to generate.

Chris,

I interpret Colossians 2:16 differently than you do. I believe this verse concerns those that are weaker in faith and in understanding of Scripture are not to be condemned or judged by those that are stronger in faith.

I completely disagree with your belief that Paul is telling us that "the believer is free to do a number of things, including appointing his worship day." Do you tell people that they do not need to understand or follow the OT because it has been replaced? Dangerous stuff there!

Did Christ come to obliterate the Law, (our schoolmaster)? Absolutely not! How do you justify your condemnation of O.T. law?

Do you think that you are not under the 10 Commandments? You are under the law if you break the law. And that is every one every day. Last I checked, only Jesus didn't break any laws, ever?

Concerning the Sabbath, we are plainly told that Christ became our Sabbath and our rest is EVERY DAY, not just one day per week ( Hebrews 4:1-11). That is what I believe! ( 1 Corinthians 5:7). And that is why I don't care when you or anyone else observes the day of rest within a week. As I have repeatedly stated, I'm not the judge!

I would think that people who value understanding Scripture as clearly as possible (as you seem to) would want to use all available resources for this. If you want to rest on a Friday or a Sunday because it is EASIER and convenient and that is what everyone else is doing, that is your choice.

I was not trying to get into a "solar calendar argument," but your dismissive comments concerning the DSS, and your idea that days are "unimportant for worship" and that we "NEED" to abide by the current (Pope Gregory) calendar sounds to me like someone that is "in the world" and has closed his mind off to any new understanding? Are you fearful to find out something that might be different from your understanding?

Victor thank you so much somebody finally stating the truth. The first 10 posts that I read the majority of all of all of them had to do with work salvation. That scripture that talks about enduring to the end that is not even talking about the saints that are save now. You have to know what dispensation your reading about. I believe this is talking to the Saints that gets saved during the tribulation or those during the thousand year millennial reign.Which is another dispensation.I can't believe how many people do not understand the gospel of grace that Paul taught about, the mystery gospel. God bless you.

1) describe "the book of life", and who makes entries there?

2) describe paradise, and how individuals are assigned to each side.

3) describe "the great white throne judgement".

4) describe "the lake of fire", and who will face that punishment.

i thank you...

"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights, with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow. 18 Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of first fruits of his creatures.

"Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above" (v. 17a) This would better be translated, "Every generous giving and every perfect gift is from above." James' interest here is to show that God is good. Therefore, the gifts sent to us by God are good rather than evil. As noted above, he has already stated that God "tempts no one" (v. 13)."coming down from the Father of lights" (v. 17b). The phrase, "Father of lights," takes us back to the creation, where "God said, 'Let there be light,' and there was light" ( Genesis 1:3) and God creating the great lights of the heavens ( Genesis 1:14-18).Light and darkness are used in both Old and New Testaments as metaphors for a series of opposites: good and evil, order and chaos, security and danger, joy and sorrow, truth and untruth, life and death, salvation and condemnation. ( Isaiah 5:20; John 3:19-21; 2 Corinthians 4:4; Ephesians 4:17-18).In the conflict between light and darkness, light always wins. Darkness can never dispel light. Light always dispels darkness.

"with whom can be no variation, nor turning shadow".

Greg, again, I appreciate your ongoing comments here & fully realize & accept that we both have our own understanding on this matter basing it on the Word.

I think that you will agree that there are many things in the Word that are either not fully explained or require us to make inferences to try & bring together: especially on eschatology, to which there are numerous divergent opinions, many of them well supported. So, my issue is not whether a believer chooses to keep Saturday as their day of rest & worship, to the exclusion of any other day; my concern is to the ramifications of that belief, i.e. if a Saturday (Sabbath) is not recognized, then what is the result to the believer & before God?

Col 2:16: "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days". So, it seems clear that 'in Christ', the believer is free to do a number of things, including appointing his worship day & this should not be a cause for judgement or division. "All are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ". When in ministry in Pakistan, believers there were compelled to have Friday as their day of worship, simply because of the Muslim holy day & generally people worked for six days in the week. This felt strange at first, but it was after all a day set aside to worship the true God & an opportunity to minister. We could have refused to do so, saying that only the Sabbath or a Sunday is holy & to be observed. So I ask, what then are the implications to those who don't keep the Sabbath, just as I have mentioned to those who insist on it ( Gal 3:10-12)? Is it just another sin that is to be repented of, or a divider of those who are granted eternal life & those who are rejected?

I can't get into the 'solar calendar' argument: in the light of my understanding, the actual days are unimportant for worship & it would only lead to a strange observance of days given the calendars we now need to abide with.

May the Lord bless you Tiffan in your spiritual endeavours & your daily walk with Him. Thank you too for your comments: they warmed my heart & revealed your singular desire to love & serve our Great & Loving Father with your whole life. His Spirit rejoices in your devotion to Him. Every blessing.

Chris,

I appreciate your comments and thoughts on this matter.

The many different views and ideas that come from this type of discussion are valuable to the overall understanding of Scripture.

I will leave you with this concerning the Seventh Day vs. the First Day.

I will hold to my understanding that if God or Jesus wanted us to change His day of rest, They would have made it abundantly clear. Correct interpretation of Scripture will justify a position. Any application to other thoughts or ideas may be welcome, but it cannot alter the interpretation. Inference is not the best way to justify a position. I have to remind myself of this all the time.

If Christ foretold us ALL THINGS ( Mark 13:23), why did He not clearly explain this changing of the 7th day to us as everything else we needed to know was.

Acts 18:4 can be used as an example that after Christ died, and rose from the dead, Paul was continually teaching in the synagogues on every Sabbath day, to both Greeks and Jews.

I believe that there is no particular day in which you worship more than any other day. That is a 7 day a week plan.

I believe that one day out of seven (the 7th day) the body should rest (as per instruction by our heavenly Father).

According to our current (Gregorian) 365 day calendar, the days slide (so to speak). For instance, your birthday might be on a Monday this year, but will slide to Tuesday (or possibly Wednesday) the following year.

So then, technically, this year's Sunday was last year's Saturday.

Is it Sunday because we are told so?

Among the findings of the Dead Sea Scrolls was the book of Enoch.

The book of Enoch contains the priestly Solar Calendar (ch. 72, 82). It is a 364 day calendar based on 52 seven day weeks.

It is a perfect solar priestly calendar used by the Israelites for thousands of years. This amazing calendar resets every year.

The DSS are a wealth of (seemingly untapped) information for Biblical students.

Chris, absolutely! Paul speaks wisely. If we know nothing about Satan and his sudle ways, many of whom , I have watched fall right into his trap. I have said many many times and will always say it, " I am in this world, not of this world". I am not perfect, however, I follow what the bible teaches me, I do not take part of the bible that suit my life. I read and try my best everyday to implement my life according to every word written! Satan has fouled so many over the years, they argue with you bc if they were to not do the things they are doing then they would have to deny their flesh! My eternal life in Heaven is more important than anything or anyone on this earth! Amen, God Bless!

1. Acts 2: 38 Repent and believe on Jesus for forgiveness of past sin. Rom. 3:25

James 1: 14, 15 tells us where sin begins; 1 John 3:4 tells us what sin is, it is the transgression (breaking( of the law.

2. I would like to point out in the old sacrificial system, that on the day of atonement there were 3 things at a minimum that had to be present in order to complete the atonement on the great day of atonement; a sacrifice ;the sanctuary; the High Priest.

I would like to point out that in Rom. 5:11 ...God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement." does not say the Atonement was full or complete.

Many times it is the case that words have more than 1 meaning and it is the case here as well. While it is possible that it could mean Atonement in the fullest sense of the word which would mean full and complete; it also could mean sacrifice; as in the sacrifice was full; the sacrifice of Jesus was perfect, there was no need of another sacrifice ever because His was all sufficient. Was there an example in the past where someone received atonement; yet it was not the Day of Atonement yet? Many in Leviticus; here is one: Lev. 5:10 The word atonement was used for purification also Exodus 29:37.

But in regard to forgiveness and how Jesus blood was applied to our account to forgive our sin; only 1 of the 3 things neccesary were present because there was no True High Priest on earth; the earthly system had been done away with when Jesus died on the cross; Jesus was not a High Priest when on earth Heb. 8: 4.

The sanctuary on Earth was but a copy of the real one in Heaven Heb. 9:1; Ex.15:17.

Why did Jesus go to heaven immediately upon resurection? John 20: 17 Tells us the he went, but why?

To apply his literal blood to the real temple in Heaven, just as Moses sanctified the Sanctuary in the OT; Lev. 4 :6; 8: 24 Read all of Lev. 8 and see how the service of the Sanctuary was purified for service as well as the priests.

When Jesus went to H

Amen to your wisdom there, Tiffan. And a part of "keeping up with the enemy's moves & strategies" is to "know your enemy intimately": that is first rule of the armed forces. To know all about him, the way he thinks, moves, calculates, use of subversionary tactics.

Many believers fail because of a lack of knowledge of the enemy of our souls. They often say, that we would rather spend our energies on meditating on the Lord than worry about the Devil. And this they do, while Satan has a field day with some of them. "We are not ignorant of his devices" said Paul, a man who was continually hounded by the enemy but was well acquainted with his ways. And so we relax in the sunshine of our salvation oblivious & ignorant to his evil schemes, until the time of temptation comes upon us.

"Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour" ( 1 Pet 5:8).

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As you summarised your case well, so I offer the following:

The apostles & the Church they served began to observe the Lord's Day as the First Day of the Week in memory of their Saviour's resurrection. This New Day was to be in direct contrast & opposition to the Jewish Sabbath: a Sabbath which required strict adherence & a part of God's Commandments to them which they could never keep & only showed this fact & their sinful condition. So Jesus came to not only keep God's Laws perfectly, but to ultimately nail them to the Cross at His Death so that all who come to Him by faith can do so in obedience to His Spirit & not to the Letter which could only bring death & separation from Him.

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e. Acts 20:7. "first day of Sabbath in reckoning 7 Sabbaths to Pentecost". The Greek word, Sabbaton used here, doesn't necessarily need to mean the Jewish Sabbath, as this word is used elsewhere with the meaning of 'week or weeks'. Refer to Mark 16:1 & 16:2. Clearly, v1 refers to the Jewish Sabbath & v2 to the 'first of weeks' = first day of the week = Sunday. So too, in Matthew 28:1: Sabbath + Week; Mark 16:9; Jn 20:1,19; Acts 20:7; 1 Cor 16:2: all used the Gk. Sabbaton referring to week & not Sabbath.

f. 1 Cor 16:2. Literally translated: "Upon the first day of the Sabbaton (week), each one should lay by him (i.e. on his own, in private, in quietness, without show or fanfare) & store aside..". The instruction here is that the believer, in consideration of the 'poor saints', should as part of the day of worship & rest from their labours, along with the giving of their freewill offerings to the assembly, to also put aside these special gifts for the poor. This was so there wasn't a mad rush to do a collection at the last minute & even take away from the sanctity of the day.

g. Rev 1:10. To remain consistent with other references to the first day of the week, we can't change the reference to the Lord's Day in Rev 1:10 to read "Day of the Lord". That would be forcing an unreasonable application to a simple reading of the verse. John was "in the spirit on the Lord's Day", not "in the spirit towards the Day of the Lord".

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Greg, just to respond to that which you've now raised, instead of re-hashing what I've shared earlier:

a. if you're referring to Gen 2:3, then I agree that God rested from His Labours & sanctified that day but it wasn't declared as a Sabbath until the giving of the Law. What Scripture from the OT do you use to support: "This Law was established for ALL to obey and enjoy?"

b. The 10 Commandments, as God's requirements, can never be abolished: "Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good." ( Rom 7:12). It was perfectly fulfilled by Jesus at His Coming & fully discharged at His Death & Resurrection.

c. I don't follow the 10 Commandments as they don't have any bearing, nor could have, on my Christian life. However, lest you think that I've adopted an antinomian stance, my subjection is not to the Law given to Israel, which only brought death ( Rom 7:10,11), but to the Law of the Life-giving Spirit ( Rom 8:2).

d. I fully agree that Jesus, in His Coming, fulfilled OT prophecy & I also agree that Faith without Works is dead. This 'Works' cannot refer to keeping the Law but of other practical evidence of real, saving Faith. However, it is interesting that you quote Gal 3:11,12. This passage specifically states, from v10, that those who maintain the 'working of the law' in their lives are under a curse as none can obey the Law to the letter; therefore, man cannot be justified by the Law - it is of Faith - and "Christ has come to redeem us from the curse of the Law" (v13). I realize that Paul was referring to possibly the Judaizers who wanted to promote this fusion of Law & Grace which opposed the pure Gospel of Christ, but doesn't it then apply to anyone who wants to support this 'obedience to the Law'?

Chris ,

That is absolutely correct! Norm Franz explains it all and much more better than I ever could! He is a pastor. There is no third eye in the bible and yes guys it is completely opposite of Our Lord and Savior Jesus. It is evil, masonic! It was brought up so I wanted to bring it to your attention, where and what the third eye is about! If you study Masons in depth, they are truly evil and not for Jesus! One of many who want to bring the NWO! I believe not only studying the bible and yes, the King James version only, for sure! However, if we are not keeping up with the slick,deceiving things Satan up to? How do we protect not only ourselves but our children as well as helping others from being seduced by (Satan) the worldly ways. We have to be educated not only on the Bible but as well as on our enemy. We are in a spiritual warfare, in any war, a intelligent opponent keeps up on the enemy's moves and stradegies! I have learned so much from Norm Franz and others and have watched the things they have talked about come to pass over the past 25 years!

Hey guys my internet was out for at least a week, I'm sorry for the delayed reply!

God Bless everyone, always trust in Him no matter what happens!

Hi i was reading Isaiah 42 and found this spelling mistake in it.

And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:

Surely this should be sin.

Bless you

Lynne

Comments by Alex about the seed of the sower the living words of God. Jesus says this parable of the sower is the greatest of the parables,know ye not this parable ,how then will you know all parables,This seed of the sower is gona form Christ in humanity, simple b/c the field is the world implying humanity. Jeremiah. saw all men in travail and birth pains simply b/c of his seed th Word . In the O.T. 27 times the prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains simply b/c of his precious seed th word the contents of the book th new covenant. The Woman goes into travail after the book is opened,we are the woman the world the field where that good seed is gona be SOWN Our hearts are the womb, My lil children of whom i travail in birth Again till Christ is formed in you. OH THAT PRECIOUS SEED IS GONA BE SOWN IN US,WHEN iSAIAH saw the kingdom coming he says unto us a Child is born, unto us a son is given th SON OF MAN. She brought forth a man child a baby Christ, now is come salvation and the kingdom of our God and his Christ. Jesus said b/c i have spoken these words (his seeds) sorrows have filled your hearts, sorrows imply a spritual pregnancy thats when he told them of a woman in birth pains, the Child is the H.G. our new innerman, as we have born the image of the earthly we must also bear ( birth ) the image of the heavenly which is the H.G. via his seed th WORD .Ya gotta realize the sower of the Good seed is the bridegroom. The child is the H.G. the children of PROMISE, he is gonna reproduce very God in humanity,to whom the word came that good seed it made them Gods. Remember God swore by his very self when he made that Promise thats y Jesus is saying to whom the Word came it made them Gods, the Child is Emanuel God with us, the stretching out of his wings is gonna fill this whole world. The weaned child and the sucking child are his children that are gonna be born in us,Whosoever receives one such Child in my NAME RECEIVES ME.Behold me and the CHILDREN ISAIAH .

Chris,

I appreciate your feedback concerning the Seventh Day.

In considering the other side of the teaching that you presented, I will respond below.

The Seventh day was declared by God BEFORE He chose Israel. This Law was established for ALL to obey and enjoy.

The 10 Commandments are OT LAW, are they abolished?

Do you still follow the 10 Commandments?

Jesus abolished BLOOD Ordinances, and either partially or completely fulfilled OT prophecy concerning His first coming, but Christ did not come to abolish the LAW.

So, then, if a person claims to have FAITH in Jesus but all of his WORKS are evil, where do you think this person ends up? Jesus tells us very plainly ( Matthew 7:23). Looks like FAITH has a lot to do with following the LAW ( Galatians 3:11-12) and with WORKS, ( James 2:17).

The English word "week" is defined from the Greek word meaning "Sabbath" or "day of rest;" also a 7 day period of time.

You state that the Lord God or His only begotten Son changed the holy Sabbath day based upon Scripture (from your understanding of Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, and Revelation 1:10):

"The first day of the week began to be recognized as the Lord's Day and that the Church began worshipping on that day"

Acts 20:7, concerns the first day of the Sabbath in reckoning the 7 Sabbaths to Pentecost.

1 Corinthians 16:2 has to do with preparation (work) for when Paul returns.

Revelation 1:10 concerns John being taken "in the spirit" to the great and dreadful "day of the Lord" or the "Lord's day"

when the Messiah shall return, and John is given testimony in relation to that. (Not Sunday!)

None of these Scriptures you offer give authorization to change the Sabbath day from the SEVENTH DAY to the FIRST DAY of the week.

Christ FORETOLD US EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW. God did not give us instruction to change the Sabbath, neither did Jesus, nor did the Prophets and Apostles.

Comments about a 3 rd eye .Don't worry about a 3 rd Eye ,Jesus said if your Eye be Single your whole body will be full of light. And a DOUBLE minded man will receive nothin from God. I just had to mention that.GBU

thank you, I am a true folower of Jesus Christ a true child of the only liveing king I serve only the father and no other and your right the holy spirit is the only one that can give us that insight. and only thru jesus eyes we see thru, and meditation. no hard feelings.

If you use the search box when you come into the website: type in, Third Eye

It brings up NO scriptures from KJV Bible.

Nothing comes up except the quick link to Google.

Personally, I do not see what Third Eye has to do with Jesus Christ and you believing in what HE DID.

I could add other comment on that but I'm not going to. You should give your energy to finding out why millions upon millions have given their hearts and sometime their mortal lives To Jesus.

Satan attacks us in any way he can get a toe hold. For some it is through a spirit of higher intellect. Jesus came as the Good Shepherd who careth for His sheep. We are to be content to live by His side. To submit to his leadership.

I don't want to argue this anymore.

Thank you for your comments, "Seventh day is sabbath". I always maintain that if the foundation is not settled, then anything built thereon will be shaky. So, referring to your first comment: "The Sabbath was given to man Mark 2:27 at creation Genesis 2:2-3 it's not a day that God required just for the Israelite's to keep, which is why the 4th commandment starts with "remember" it is because the children of Israel had forgotten through hundreds of years of slavery in Egypt."

It seems that your understanding of those Scriptures in Genesis & Mark applied not only to Israel but to all mankind, or more specifically to the 'other sheep' that were to come into Christ's fold. To this I disagree, for the following reasons:

a. Exodus 31:13-17 & Ezek 20:12. Clear references as to who should keep the Sabbath & that it was given as not only a day of ceasing from all labours, but as importantly, a sign of the relationship between God & Israel. It was never intended to include Gentiles or the Church in such a requirement.

b. Galatians 3:19. Shows that both the validity & finality of the Law (the whole Law) was fully realized at the death of Jesus Christ.

c. Matthew 5:17. Jesus demonstrated that He alone could fulfil the whole requirements of the Law & none else. The Law was given because of "transgressions" but none could obey it fully to please God & satisfy its demands, since "if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law" ( Gal 3:21). So no Law could bring righteousness, even as a certain ruler learned ( Lk 18:18-24). If he believed he obeyed all of God's Law, how did Jesus pick him up on that point of selling all & following him? That man just had a quick lesson to find out that he in fact didn't obey it perfectly: he broke the very first commandment by placing his wealth, & maybe family & other assets, before his love for God.

How then can we rest on the Law for anything except to know God's Mind & Purposes?