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Subject: Prayer (Part two).

Fact Two (continued). The emphasis of prayer related to the edification of the Body should be fairly obvious with the overwhelming emphasis on such in the Epistles. Other than the Book of James we should note that there is not ANY instruction about right vs. wrong types of prayer in scripture. When we consider the nature of Paul's sufferings often associated with imprisonment; we see that his concern was for the state of the churches; with only a passing request for his own needs. It should go without saying that we should put the needs of others above our own (Phillippians 2:3-4). We are asked to remember those with "like temptations" ( 1 Peter 5:9). Although this doesn't directly address prayer; it does discuss the Devil prowling about; certainly in spritual warfare prayer is tied in (see Ephesians 6:18-20). The preceding verses in this chapter explain about the full armor of God which probably is a separate fact for praying with authority.

Fact Three: Personal application. When we have a proper perspective on lifting His name up in praise and considering the saints above ourselves; we then get to our personal devotions and prayers. I think it should be said that we should do as much work as we can with the opportunities available to be the "hands and feet" of Christ in service. For our own needs; we pursue possibilities; and seek "in and out of season" ( 2 Tim. 4:2) to perform our jobs and live our personal lives working "heartily unto the Lord." ( Colossians 3:23-24). This is not to puff ourselves up; but to ensure that our own laziness; or any other vices may not interfere with God answering prayers; or unnecessarily turn people off when opportunities arise. To trust God for blessings based on His promises rather than seeking self gain may only be something God Himself can judge in each individual case. Gaining access to "more of the Holy Spirit" certainly is a win/win situation ( Luke 11:13).

Hello Silentknight63. As I understand it, there were several committees formed within the select group of 60 skilled translators employed for this work. How those individual committees worked on their projects can't be determined, whether collectively or individually. As you pointed out, in Luke 11:13, we read that 'Holy Spirit' was used, but in many other portions of the same Gospel, 'Holy Ghost' is used, so it's hard to determine how & why these terms were expressed differently.

As to the translators themselves, from 'kingjamesbibletranslators dot org', I learn that they were all from England, university educated (Oxford & Cambridge), members/ordained priests of the C of E, & familiar with the ancient languages. Nine of the translators passed away even before the 1611 KJV was published.

So, it seems that maybe the different expressions of the Spirit of God were based on personal preference or specific application which clearly doesn't affect its meaning as the one & same Spirit. Unfortunately, these different expressions of God's Spirit have led to confusion among some readers, particularly those who attribute the word 'ghost' to something more sinister.

What was the reason for using Holy Ghost, when they did use Holy Spirit ( Luke 11:13)?

I'm aware of German (gast) vs Latin (spiritus). Was the translation committee predominantly Germanic?

Please read: Psalms 94, Psalms 37, Psalms 7:15, Psalms 9:15, Deuteronomy 32:35,41,43,

The scripture you're looking for Luke 11:45,52, context Luke 11, & Luke 14,

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1John 4:18, Revelation 21:6-8, 1John 4:1-3,

Do you believe John 3:16 ? Do you believe GOD can heal? Do you believe GOD can change everything? Do you believe man who spoke those words over you, or GOD ALMIGHTY that created you!? Be Healed be delivered

Trust GOD

James 1:5, Romans 10:17, James 4:7, Luke 11:9-13,

Nick 34, You're saying only when you pray or read the Bible; the scripture says pray without ceasing 1Thessalonians 5:17. Lay the word on your heart & in your soul, bind on your hand, in front of your eyes, to talk about them often, with your children when sitting, walking along, when laying down, the WORD of GOD, Deuteronomy 11:18-20, Psalms 119:11,

Is it a spiritual attack to keep you from reading, praying & learning of a Loving Creator our Loving Father in Heaven? Or is it the HOLY Spirit bringing conviction of sin? If it's not peace that is present, your relationship needs work, possibly. Even Isaiah a Prophet of GOD, had to repent to be close to GOD's presence: Isaiah 1:6, These should be helpful

I believe these may be what you're looking for: 1John 3:22,23 in context 1John 3, Philippians 4:19, John 15, John 16:23-27, Matthew 6, Matthew 7:7-12, Matthew 18:19, Matthew 21:21-22, Luke 11:2-13,

Hopefully these are encouraging

Hello Adrian,

One of the best ways is to read the Bible straight through- you might start in Matthew in the New Testament. You will read stories and parables. There's also a link below that says "Bible stories" you might check out. God bless.

how to find stories in the bible

Dear God Father in heaven. Find a solution for them Lord.

Luke 11:2-4

The authority and glory for eternity, amen.

I want to be filled with the Holy Spirit. As it is written, Luke 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Also, I have an unspoken prayer request that I need God to do a miracle in my life and take care of the situation that I am having in my life. Please pray that God will end this problem that I am dealing with. He can cause this situation to end and never come back again.

I want to be filled with the Holy Spirit. As it is written, Luke 11:13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

Also, I have an unspoken prayer request that I need God to do a miracle in my life and take care of the situation that I am having in my life. Please pray that God will end this problem that I am dealing with. He can cause this situation to end and never come back again.

Perhaps the questions arise because of teachings not actually in scripture.

John 17, Please read whole chapter, Isaiah 11:1,2, John 3:16, Matthew 10:32,33,

Ephesians 4:30, Luke 11:13, Ephesians 1:1-13, Ephesians 1:17-23, Matthew 24:35,36,

John 14:26, John 16:7,

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Luke 12:48, it's about discipline,

The people Jesus was speaking to, understood that for of discipline/punishment because it was very publicity done in their society, see Deuteronomy 25:1-3, 2Corinthians 11:23,24, Acts 16:23, Proverbs 19:29,

Isaiah 53, Isaiah 53:5,

Context Luke 12, it starts off Luke 12:1 "In the meantime._.._." therefore you have to go back a page or more to get fuller context. Luke 11, starts Luke 11:1 "And it came to pass._._" also a continuation but atleast you can see a good contextual beginning in Luke 11:1 they were asking Jesus to teach them to pray. Jesus started to teach them Luke 11:2-52, also bringing the Church Leadership into correction, while teaching all around, including those leaders. Luke 11:53-54, those leaders were waiting for a time to trip him up. Luke 12, begins as that moments continuation, so Jesus in the crowds chaos continued teaching Luke 12:1 "._._.. Beware ye of the ._._.hypocrisy ", (please read in context) Jesus then encourages us & all around Him, the Love GOD has for us & HIS promises of provision of all needs, even during wrongful persecution & death. Luke 12:3-40, with continued warning of hypocrisy, Luke 12:41-59, notice Luke 12:45, mistreatment of others, disregard of responsibility as Stewardship, leadership, ect.

Looks like Jesus is talking about being responsible for those people & things put into the care, trust of HIS "servants" knowingly or unknowingly sinning against, if you're a leader, trusted with anyone & especially the Church.

Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7, Romans 14:12,

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Henry

Thank you for your thoughts.

I believe the Bible, every word.

You said,

"In reference to any temptation or provoking remember James 1:13

God can't be

Tempted neither tempts he any man."

I believe James 1:13.

I also believe my Lord when He taught us how to pray saying to our Heavenly Father,

And lead us not into temptation ( Luke 11:4) ( Matthew 6:13)

And when God told Moses He would harden Pharaoh's heart that Pharaoh would not let the children of Israel go( Exodus 10:27)

And he hardened Pharaoh's heart, that he hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said. ( Exodus 7:13)

The Lord hardened Pharaoh's heart until the destroying angel came and killed all the first born of Egypt.

And the Lord did so to shew his power by Pharaoh. ( Romans 9:17)

Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. ( Romans 9:18)

Henry, why would our Lord tell us to pray to our Heavenly Father saying,

...and lead us not into temptation?

Why would the God of Isreal harden Pharaoh's heart until He destroyed all the first born of Egypt?

If the Lord does not tempt us, how did He harden Pharaoh's heart?

Do you see the contradictions?

Nevertheless, God will have mercy on whom he will have mercy and, whom he will he hardeneth.

In John 17 Jesus prayed to the Father. It is some of my favorite scripture. What is frequently referred to as the Lord's prayer is found in Luke 11:2-4 and Matthew 6:9-13

LeRoy,

Matthew 6:9-13 gives us the principles of prayer. This is known as the "Lord's Prayer" theologically, but in reality it is called the Disciples Prayer because Jesus is teaching the disciples to pray.



The real Lord's Prayer is found in John Chapter 17 where Jesus prayed in intercession for His people to the Father. That is the real Lord's Prayer. It is His prayer. This is the prayer for the Disciples in Matthew Chapter 6.



There is another version in Luke 11:2-4, but it is a different presentation from what we have in Matthew. In Luke there are no Hebraisms because Luke's Gospel was written to the Gentiles.



For instance the first one is "Our Father, which art in heaven." Luke, even in the oldest manuscripts, it is just "Our Father." There is no phrase, in heaven.



So basically, Jesus again taught the same principles, but one in Jewish form and one in Greek form. And so you can see that it was not used as a formula for reciting, where everybody gets up and says the same prayer all the time every week. It is not a formula prayer!



But there are principles that Jesus laid down to teach us. He says, you want to know how to pray? Here is what you do. And there are three parts. But again, this is not the Lord's Prayer in Matthew. The Lord was not praying. He was teaching the principles of prayer to His disciples.

Correct, but this is done Spiritually while in silent prayer. Just like donning the Armor of God, one can't physically put it on, but one can do this act in their mind or spiritually, hidden from sight, but it's there.

See, the Kingdom of God is within you, you are the Temple, therefore, once a person stops looking at these parables as literal, but instead looks for the hidden meaning, the spiritual meaning that applies directly to the self, not the World stage, but Jerusalem is an aspect of you, Abraham is an aspect of you, Egypt is an aspect of you... then these storied develop into relevant psychological events that depict a phase of the nature of man vs the spirit in man.

So back to the You are the Temple of the Living God. That must mean what was in the Temple then, must be in you now... IF my theory is correct. Well, lets see. Is there an altar above fire? Define Fornix etymology...{search}

fornix (n.)

from 1680s in reference to various arched formations (especially in anatomy), from Latin fornix "arch, vaulted chamber, cellar, vaulted opening," probably an extension, based on appearance, from a source akin to fornus "brick oven of arched or domed shape" (from PIE root *gwher- "to heat, warm").

Is there a White Horse that Jesus appears on? Define Hippocampus {search}

hippocampus (n.)

c. 1600, a kind of sea monster, part horse and part dolphin or fish, often pictured pulling Neptune's chariot, from Late Latin hippocampus, from Greek hippokampos, from hippos "horse" (from PIE root *ekwo- "horse") + kampos "a sea monster," which is perhaps related to kampe "caterpillar." Used from 1570s as a name of a type of fish (the seahorse); of a part of the brain from 1706, on supposed resemblance to the fish.

2 for 2, and there is so much more... The Olives symbol refers to the medulla oblongata.

To wrap up I quote Jesus Luke 11:52

Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered

I did a thorough study on when Jesus died. It was very interesting that men follows the traditions of men. Paul already warned us in Colossians 2:8

I personally confirmed that Jesus died on Wednesday. Just as the pattern of a wonderful God has created a day, so understanding that a day starts in the evening and the morning Genesis 1:5. Then next a great God gave the Jews a great and only sign of Jonah 1:17 and Matthew 12:40 a prophetic sign of when Jesus will die, buried and resurrected for 3 days and 3 nights. Our God is such a great Intelligent Designer so that the true believers will not be deceived tossed to and fro ( Ephesians 4:14) by any so-called Religious Christian Deceivers. So by knowing this you will know who is lying to you and to stay away from this cult. Revelation 18:4

It was also a perfect match on the day of Passover and the Sabbath. Noticed the day Mary went to the tomb and her preparation of her spices. I will leave a room for you to study.

So anybody says Jesus died on Friday, it is fake news they are making you a merchandised 2 Peter 2:3; Revelation 18:11; Revelation 18:12 Stay away immediately if they do not listen to the truth. The truth will set you free. John 14:6. The greatest and intelligent thing God said is that there is no other interpretation in the word of God. So if you do not get it you must be a lost person and not saved or just not reading your Bible enough. I do want ALL to be saved 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. I just hate the Nicolaitans (2X) Revelations 2:6; Revelation 2:15. Beware of many modern Pharisees.

Main thing is that we true believers 1 John4:2-3; 2 John 1:7 should not be divided 1 Corinthians 1:10; Luke 11:17. We need each other Romans 12:4; 1 Corinthians 12:12 & 20

We are truly in the last days. Psalms 2:1-12. God wants everybody to understand The Word of God. Many of you will not believe. It is expected. Many will meet Jesus in the cloud 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-58. See you soon.

Hello! I'd like to point out that when one of the Apostles asked Jesus Christ to teach him how to pray, he instructed them all, and us by association, to pray to God Luke 11:1-13. To wit, we are to pray to God, our Father, not to Mary.

We have all sinned and come short of the glory of God, Romans 3:23. Therefore, we have all broken God's ten commandments. When we break one, we are guilty of breaking them all, James 2:10-20.

Jesus is the only way to Heaven. He told Nicodemus that a man must be born again to enter Heaven, John 3:3. No man comes to the Father but by Jesus, John 14:6.

To be born again:

Romans 10:9-13 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

Luke 11:10-13

"10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?

12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?

13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father GIVE THE HOLY SPIRIT TO THEM THAT ASK HIM?"

Final Word Jesus authenticates entire 39 books of the Old Testament Luke 11 50 to 51 Ryrie Study Bible .docx

Jesus authenticate the entire Thirty-Nine books of the Old Testament the Israel Religious Hierarchy used and believed was the Holy Scriptures. (This included the Levites, the Priesthood, the Scribes, the Sanhedrin, Caiphas and Ananias, the Sadducees and the Pharisees.) This is the same Old Testament used in Jesus's time. It is the same as we have today. It was compiled in its entirety during the time of Ezra about 450 B.C. In prior to this time only the elite, scholarly, and Religious Hierarchy were able to access and read scriptures. In earlier times Scrolls were used to record and preserve the texts and controlled by religious hierarchy.

I previously posted my inquiry as what single scripture in the New Testament says jesus validated the entire Old Testament that was the accepted as the Holy Scriptures by the Israel Religious Hierarchy at the time of Jesus was teaching and ministering. The following is what I was seeking to find.

Luke 11:50-51

50. That the blood of all the prophets, which was shed from the foundation of the world, may be required of this generation;

51. From the blood of Abel unto the blood of Zacharias, which perished between the altar and the temple: verily I say unto you, It shall be required of this generation.

The Collection of the Books of the Old Testament

From the Dr Charles Caldwell Ryrie , Thd, Phd - Ryrie Study Bible NAS. Published by Moody Publications. Page XXVii

Most Signiant however is the statement of Jesus ( Luke 11:51) in which He delimited the extent of the canonical books of the Old Testament when He accused the scribes of being guilty of slaying all of the prophets God had sent to Israel from the time of Able to the time of Zechariah. Able's death is recorded in Genesis; Zechariah's in II Chronicles 24:20-21, which is he last book of the Hebrew Bible rather than Malachi as our English Bible."

Vera,

Here are a few scriptures for, Fasting & prayer: Matthew 6:5-18, Mark 11:22-26, Luke 11:2-4, Luke 11:9-13,

Luke 18:10-17, Isaiah 58, Matthew 17:14-21, Mark 9:25-29,

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Hello all dear friends and Jesus saved people both women and men. When I came across some words today, just want to remind you of what Jesus said here: Luke 19:41-44.

God bless you all in Jesus holy name, i love you in Christ.

Remember and forgive all ppl their sins. Then we know that we are also forgiven by God. Luke 11:1-13

Luke 11:21

Tongues

I have never spoken in tongues; although felt on the verge of it on occasion. I had been told by Pentacostals that I had to speak in tongues to be saved; which clearly is errant as God gives gifts severally as He chooses. Nonetheless; I am not going to discount that it is still occurring today; as I have known examples of those in my life with that gifting. However; it is clear with the Kundalini type spirit as one false manifestation that a demonic tongue certainly exists as do many imitations by Satan of God's good gifts from above. Again the lack of discernment is appalling when we see obvious possession taking away any possibility of things being "decent and in order" ( 1 Cor. 14:40). Tongues also rarely are interpreted although I have met individuals who claim they have heard it done properly on occasion.

It seems to me that there are prayer languages for personal edification; as well as ones to be interpreted in a church congregational setting. Again; to see the forest through the trees it should always be the GIVER of the gifts not the gifts themselves that is sought when we ask for more of the Holy Spirit. That is a prayer Christ Himself is said to fulfill ( Luke 11:13). The fear of God; and impending doom for the unbeliever fits in with the general ministry of the Spirit found in John 16:8-11 where sin; righteousness and judgment to come pierce men's hearts. There are verses where both a sign for nonbelievers and believers is what tongues is said to be meant for. ( 1 Cor. 14:22; 25). This could be the two types of tongues I mentioned or the purpose of ministry emphasizing one gift over the other; in this case prophecy. I'll let someone else tackle that. Again; there should be a surrendered; victorious; fruit bearing life as evidence of tongues or any other gift. Immature believers in the Corinthian church had gifts; but had to be severely rebuked for Paul to set them straight. The transformation shows that they were saved.

Richard,

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But when it comes to righteous indignation (or better, anger) we really need to be careful that we are "majoring in majors and not majoring in minors". I've been in "church" situations where some address the pastor over insignificant matters, causing unneeded strife. Other times, people just brush off or look the other way concerning behaviors that are adverse to the godly way we are to behave and concerning teachings that are outrageously heretical or blasphemous. So, there is a "thin line" often between being truly acting from right motives and sinning when faced with something that we ought to be righteously angry over. But, we live in a culture, especially within the church that values "niceness" over honesty and being very "real". And people tend to be more receptive of flattery than honest, proper correction or even just an honest response.

In our society, sinful behaviors and words are not only to be tolerated, but accepted on equal level with the values of Christ and the belief in the exclusivity of the Christian Gospel over other religious beliefs. I face that in my own family, which is really at the root of the deep divide that exists. I don't know where all of this 'equity of acceptance of all things" will lead our society, but I do not think it will lead people to Jesus, for sure.

With all of this said, Jesus is the one who ultimately deals with the hearts, attitudes, and mindsets of other people. He may use us to bring truth, light, and conviction in others as well as consolation, encouragement, and uplifting of others who are downtrodden in their sins and seek a remedy.

Hello, Richard.

I have met so many Christians who insist that Jesus never got angry or chastised or berated anyone. But He did, without sinning. He was always appropriate in any admonition or rebuke, getting straight to the heart of the matter to those who needed this. Yet He was gentle and compassionate to those who needed a loving, more soft-handed response from Him. He gave every person the words and works they most needed in those moments. We cannot, of course, know the minds and hearts of others like Jesus did and still does. But we can learn to discern what our response to others should be like. We learn to do this with our children in raising and nurturing them. Sometimes they need firmness and an unpleasant consequence, other times, grace, forgiveness, and understanding them in their weakness. Other times, we can give straight out instruction, and other times we let them try and fail at a task, learning to problem solve.

I do think we should never excuse in ourselves bad manners, ill feelings, nor rudeness to others, but in walking with the Spirit we can come to know what is the best and most appropriate things to say and do. For instance, this week I needed to advocate for my siblings in matters concerning how our oldest sister, who is power of attorney and executor of our Mom's estate is not only handling these funds, but in requesting that she disclose bank statements and an accounting of what is paid out, for what, and to whom. I knew that it would not sit well with her or a few other siblings who usually are on her side of the deep divide in our family (decades old), but I knew that I needed to address this sooner rather than later, for her benefit as well as for my other siblings who are all equal heirs. My request stirred up some emotional responses from some, but others were thanking me for addressing this issue. But my conscience is clear, as I meant no harm, nor had any ill intentions in this.

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Agapeo ALWAYS One of the most interesting observation in my walk, we as believers are to put on all meekness and humility

not saying door mat but genuine humbleness of mind. Instead a lot of so called Christians have a self righteous attitude

and with unbelievers if you don't believe your going straight to hell. Show me that kind of mind set with Jesus Christ in

the Gospels and I'LL EAT THE BOOK. Now when it came to those in power yes he called it the way it is, but to those who

came to Him with genuine heart to be delivered they got delivered. The way I see it judge not for thou shalt be judged,

and above all walk in love because that's what delivered me. Also consider 2 COR. 4:4 WHO HAS THEM BLINDED the same

god that did the same to me. Bottom line our occupation we plant we water but GOD GIVES THE INCREASE. BELIEVERS

AND I'M SAYING PEOPLE I KNOW tell me how evil the gov. and people in office are well their people and so were we. My

bible says to pray for those in office not ridicule but doctrine. We who choose stand and walk must stay on mark to

not let Gods love in us wax cold Math 24:12 because it was the LOVE OF GOD that delivered us and melted the hardness

in hearts so lets endeavor to keep it soft and as Ephesians 4:32 tenderhearted thats the goal that will deliver oithers if they

choose to believe and continue to make us whole. We already know everything in this world will wax or become worse and

worse so my mind endeavors to think about things above Col.3:1-5 because that's all that really counts.

How are we too be?

The first thing that comes to mind, is a need from the Holy One! Only He knows what we need and when! If I know these things, then I should be happy!

Maybe Im not as happy as I should or could be ,and if not why?

The things around us are changing all the time. Are we consumned it seems with that which is past, and present, thinking somehow in this life, we should be happier than what we are? Are these the signs of the times? Or, are these thoughts the consequences of abiding in Him? Are these the offences that He speaks that will come too those who worship Him?

Are these things of the spirit of God!

So, How do we get to that place? Tell me How!

How do we get to the place where this Holy One will take our place, will become one with us? I hear the prophets and apostles words, I see Jesus walking and healing, and yet I am not filled! Maybe, I am not saved?

How can I know this love that passes all understanding? Must I be touched? Is it true that this corruption must put on incorruption? Why can we not experiance this incorruption now? I hear the voices! I hear the questions, I sence that these wish to see Him , this one called the WORD! Cry out! Cry out, for ourredemption draws nigh.

If you are in this place, than you are in Him! Love one another in all things, for the evil one has come and desires your soul!

Watch! I say watch! Repent and be Baptized

The "socially incorrect" Jesus. Anyone that passes off Christ as demonstrating what the world considers "humanitarianism" in love toward everyone and acceptance is in for a rude awakening; particularly when reading Luke 11. We start off with His careful explanation on a type and model of HOW to pray (apparently based on similar patterns by John the Baptist to HIS disciples (v. 1). This; of course is found elsewhere in slightly different form in the Gospels. Then; there is the explanation on perseverance in asking the giver of all things for good gifts (i.e. the Holy Spirit in v. 13). Christ almost gets through this account without any unpleasant statements until that last verse when he states that they are "evil." So much for putting the Disciples who were; BTW saints as ALL true believers were (minus Judas Iscariot) at some sanctimonious level above the rest of any sinners saved by grace.

At this point; all bets are off. Jesus has to deal with the hearts of Pharisees; with their thoughts; or comments about Him using the Devil's (Beelzebub) power to cast out demons; and to the crowd in general saying that they are an "evil generation" seeking a sign (v. 29); then warning about light being darkness in us (or Satan appearing as an angel of light).

Finally; in verse 38 we see what would be considered (to say the least) bad manners after an invite to a meal. A simple concept of lack of handwashing which seemed trivial ended up in a railing accusation to the hypocrisy within for Pharisees in general. Then; to add insult to injury after He was informed that the lawyers were insulted He went after them!

(I would imagine there was a lot of indigestion there at that time).

The concept of righteous indignation especially among "religious" folks today seems like an ancient artifact. If judgment begins at the house of God; who is sounding the trumpet today?

Yes God is very Good and is so patient with us and our errors . And faults etc. I at one time believed in the trinity doctrine , but the Holy Spirit is a greater teacher , than men's doctrines, I felt like a dark cloud was removed when I saw the truth of it . Amen !