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  • T Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Some women of the Bible : The books of Esther 1, entire book, Ruth 1, entire book, Judges 4, & 5, Judges 13, Acts 9:36-41, Luke 2:36-38,

    Judith,

    There are many more throughout the Bible. I hope you will read & study to find many more
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Linda.

    What Luke 2:21 is saying this is which what was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb. Other words the Angel Gabriel was instructed by God to name Mary's child "Jesus "

    Here's the account.

    Luke 1:26-31. And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

    To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary.

    And the angel came in unto her, and said, Hail, thou that art highly favoured, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.

    And when she saw him, she was troubled at his saying, and cast in her mind what manner of salutation this should be.

    And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.

    And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.

    I hope this helps.

    God bless.
  • Bob211 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Linda, in addition to Gigi and Ruach reply, let me add context to fully understand and answer your question.

    Luke 1:33 Context 30And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 31And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. 32He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 33And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. 34Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man? 35And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.

    Luke 2:21 21And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb.
  • Linda - 2 years ago
    Luke 2:21

    What is this about an Angel called Jesus?

    Is someone messing with our Bible?

    Does anyone have an old KJV to check?
  • David T on Luke 2 - 2 years ago
    I always have to remind myself of the truth of Scripture when I meditate and ponder the passages I am reading and praying for wisdom from the LORD. I always must remember 2 Timothy 3: 16, 17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God..."

    The Scriptures teaches us that JESUS never sinned in HIS heart or in action. Every thing HE did glorified the FATHER'S name. As far as 12 yr old JESUS addressing Mary, and 30 yr old Jesus addressing her as "woman" it was acceptable and not considered as a sin nor disrespectful.

    In my culture, presently all the children address their parents as mom/dad or the equivalent. Prior to the 1970's, we called our parents by their first names. This was not considered as disrespectful or ill-mannered, it was part of our culture and social norm. We should never try to press the narrative to fit our own thinking or our life style.

    The bottom line is when scripture indicates a truth, then it is the truth for all times.

    The LORD shine HIS face upon us all. Keep praying for our nation's leadership and the coming mid term elections. 1 Timothy 2:1-3

    Praying also for our first responders and the lost.

    September 24, 2022
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Psalms 133:3,

    1Chronicles 11:1,3, Genesis 27:28,39,

    Isaiah 26:19, Proverbs 19:12,

    Zion, City of David : 2Samuel 5:7, 1Kings 8:1, 1Chronicles 11:5, 2Chronicles 5:2,

    Psalms 53:6, Psalms 134:3, Isaiah 2:3,

    Luke 2:4,11, Luke 2, Prophecy fulfilled

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Here are a few scriptures that should help show truth

    Galatians 1:8,9, no, Angel given another gospel not ok.

    Revelation 14, 144,000, seem to be clearly defined in: Revelation 7:3-4, broken down by tribe: Revelation 7:3-8,

    Not just the Laterdaysaints: Revelation 7:9-17,

    don't add to word, or take away from: Revelation 22:18,19

    Matthew 25:31-46,

    Women prophets Judges 4:4, Luke 2:36, Exodus 15:20,

    Acts 4:12, John 14:6, John 3:16,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Jews and Gentiles - In Reply on 2 Timothy 4 - 2 years ago
    Luke 2:32

    A Light of revelation to the Gentiles,

    And the glory of Your people Israel.

    Romans 3:29

    Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also,
  • Doug - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thanks Chris for your reply! I agree with the thought that the "Word was with God and the Word was God". I think the difference in beliefs is what happened when the in Word was made flesh. John 1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. I believe he was full of "grace and truth". He carried nature of God, but needed the grace of God and had to access it like we do. That is why he prayed, fasted, etc to resist temptation. Luke 2:40 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him. v 52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man. Isaiah 11:3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: I believe he reflected his father at all times. Hebrews 1:3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; The following verse to me is interesting indicating that we have been given the glory that God gave him. John 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: A mystery I have: is when was he considered the begotten Son and when did that happen. Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. These thoughts are not all inclusive, but enough hopefully to clear any misunderstandings.
  • David - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Richard Biblical prophecy is either forthtelling what gods word already promised but the speaker is talking by inspired

    utterance or foretelling the future. Examples luke 2:25-35 also ACTS 2:14-37-this is all inspired utterance from holy

    spirit of past present and future also not all were judean and it is unscripted. The idea of teaching people that if you give money to God you get blessed in return is a phallacy because you can be giving in other categories to bless the body of Christ and that's honored. Also in the first church i.e. book of Acts show me where people were told to give and I'LL eat the book, people gave because they were delivered and blessed not being told if you don't give God won't bless you. poelpe have so called prophecied

    that the united states is going down, that's not prophecy that's already written that any nation that practices or worships the

    adversary their land will spew them out. Years ago a believer came to me that went back to a drug problem and wanted help

    I told hin to move in but if I see and traces of drugs he's gone. Three days later I came home and he packed his bags and I met

    him before he left and he said I'm sorry and I said if you don't change Iwill never see you alive again. Six months later he was

    dead, was that prophecy no it was 2 Peter 2:21+22 the dog went back to his own vomit. So when people say God told me this

    or that as long as it lines up with it is written fine if not the enemy is expert at what he does.
  • Doug - In Reply - 2 years ago
    This topic of Jesus being God or fully God and fully man seems to be added wording to the scripture. Jesse's scripture I think gives the best explanation of the topic. If we consider the translation it is easier to understand. The reason he thought it not robbery to be equal to God is because he was in the form of God. The translation of form here is he carried the nature of God. He was found in the fashion (outward circumstance of a man). He as we have to access God's power to resist the devil. John 8:28 "I do nothing of myself". Luke 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man. Luke 2:40 And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him. Easy scriptures to pass over, but doesn't sound like he was fully God otherwise he wouldn't need the grace of God and wouldn't have to increase in wisdom. 1 Tim. 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; Note: It doesn't say the God Christ Jesus.
  • Adam - In Reply on John 20 - 2 years ago
    Hello, John chapter 1 explains and answers all these questions:

    John 1:14-15 reveals that Jesus is called the "Word."

    John 1:1 says "Word was with God, and the Word was God." this means that Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God.

    John 1:3 says "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." This means that all things were made by Jesus, and without Jesus nothing was made.

    The common misunderstanding is that Jesus temporarily came to earth and while fully God, became fully man and appeared to allow Himself to be limited as a man. So, most people analyze His behavior as a temporary man and draw assumptions from it: like how can He pray to Himself? etc.

    John 1:9-10 - talks about Jesus, also called the "Light" coming to earth.

    Philippians 2:6-7 - to me this means that Jesus wasn't concerned about His power being lessor or limited as a temporary man.

    Luke 2:52 - Jesus put Himself in a position of a man to grow in wisdom and maturity.

    So, all of your quotes are while Jesus was in a temporary limited state as a man on earth.

    You wrote: "Inconceivable if he is God the Creator." It's not inconceivable because the Bible literally says Jesus created everything in John 1:3.

    If this isn't convincing enough there are more verses saying the same thing:

    Colossians 1:15-17

    Hebrews 1:2

    1 Corinthians 8:6

    Jesus literally created you!
  • T. Levis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Old Testament law: Deuteronomy 16:16, Exodus 34:23,24, Deuteronomy 31:11, Exodus 23:17, the dates of calendars have changed even the Hebrew / Jewish calendars. Moses through GOD established the beginning of the year to be the Passover, no calendar today honors that. Exodus 12:2, Exodus 12, Numbers 28:16,

    Jesus honored these things, along with His parents (on earth) Luke 2:22,23, Luke 2:41-49, John 4:45, John 5:1, John 10:22,23, even those who opposed Jesus expected Jesus to honor the appointed days : John 11:54-57, John 12, Even facing His own brutal death: Matthew 20:17,18 , Mark 10:32,33,34 do you think HE knew He was the Lamb,: Luke 2:38, Luke 18:31, that was going to be slain for Passover? That's why HE told them, as HE obediently set his face to go? Luke 9:51,

    Matthew 21

    Micah 6:6-8,

    John 4:21-24, 2Corinthians 6:2, 2Colossains 2:16,17, Hebrews 10:1-19, Matthew 18:20,

    Hopefully these are helpful
  • Giannis - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Dear Triumph, It would be easy for God to appear to all people and make them believe. But they would have been compelled to do so, since they wouldn't have another option. God doesn't want to force people to accept/live with/live by Him. He wants people to choose Him in their own free will. Just think, would you like your husband/wife to get married to you and live with you because he/she was forced to do so because couldn't do otherwise? Or because he/she loves you and want to do so?

    Luke 2:33-35

    'And Joseph and his mother marvelled at those things which were spoken of him.

    And Simeon blessed them, and said unto Mary his mother, Behold, this child is set for the fall and rising again of many in Israel; and for a sign which shall be spoken against;

    (Yea, a sword shall pierce through thy own soul also,) THAT THE THOUGHTS OF MANY HEARTS MAY BE REVEALED."

    But don't worry. At the end the true sheep will follow the true Shepherd.

    In Genesis in the begining it was Father God who was talking to the other two persons of the Trinity/Godhead, that is the Son and the Holly Spirit.

    GBU
  • T Levis - In Reply on Acts 13 - 2 years ago
    I've understood it to be similar to Simon called Peter: Matthew 4:18, Matthew 10:2, different than Acts 8:9, & Luke, Acts 10:18, Acts 13:1, Acts 13:9, Acts 14:2, notice in Acts, the same book, there are multiple names referenced even a wind, Acts 27:14, Acts 27:8, Hebrews 11:18,

    Matthew 1:6 Jesus called Christ, John 4:25, Luke 6:15, John 1:42, John 11:16, not Colossians 4:11,

    Romans 2:17, Romans 7:3, same supposed writer as Acts , also Romans 9:26

    Matthew 26:14, Luke 23:33, John 19:13, John 19:17, Acts 6:9, Revelation 11:8,

    Revelation 12:9,

    Luke 2:4, Luke 8:2, John 21:2, different than Acts 9:11,

    Acts 1:23, Acts 9:36,

    Colossians 3:15, 1John 3:1,

    Hopefully these are all helpful in your study
  • Giannis - In Reply on Luke 2 - 2 years ago
    Dear David

    We know really nothing apart from that incident when the 12 year old child Jesus got lost in the crowds and was found out by His parents in the Temple of Solomon. Also we know that He used to work as a carpenter like His father Joseph did. GBU.
  • David Willis on Luke 2 - 2 years ago
    What is known about Jesus's life as a child?
  • Names of Jesus A_C - 3 years ago
    Advocate - 1 John 2:1

    Alive for Evermore - Rev 1:18

    All Knowing Psalm 139:1-6

    All, and in All - Colossians 3:11

    Almighty - Revelation 1:8

    Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:8

    Altar - Hebrews 13:10

    Altogether Lovely - Song of Solomon 5:16

    Amen - Revelation 3:14

    Ancient of Days - Daniel 7:13 & Daniel 7:22

    Anointed One - 1 Samuel 2:35

    Author of Eternal Salvation - Hebrews 5:9

    Author of our Faith - Hebrews 12:2

    Balm of Gilead - Jeremiah 8:22

    Banner over us - Ps 60:4, S of Sol 2:4

    Bearer of Sin - Hebrews 9:28

    Before All Things - Colossians 1:17

    Beginning and Ending - Revelation 1:8

    Bishop of our Souls - 1 Peter 2:25

    Blessed and Only Potentate - 1 Timothy 6:15

    Blessed Hope - Titus 2:13

    Bread of Life, my manna - John 6:35

    Bridegroom - John 3:29

    Bright and Morning Star - Revelation 22:16

    Brightness of His Glory - Hebrews 1:3

    Buckler - Psalms 18:30

    Captain - Joshua 5:14-15, Hebrews 2:10

    Changeless One - Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8

    Chief Among 10,000, S. of Solomon 5:10

    Chosen of God - 1 Peter 2:4

    Christ - Matthew 1:16 - 1 John 5:1

    Comforter - John 14:16-18

    Consolation of Israel - Luke 2:25

    Counselor - Isaiah 9:6

    Creator - Romans 1:25 - Isaiah 40:28

    Crown of Glory - Isaiah 28:5
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 3 years ago
    I tried to respond and lost the verses. Anyway; look at Ephesians 6:17; Romans 13:4; and the earlier warnings to Pergamum for a similar response of God if repentance doesn't occur. There are other verses such as in Isaiah which prophetically speak of the sword of the Lord as it were. Basically; there is the effect on us; as the Spirit of God should pierce our hearts as Luke 2:35 states; and it is also our offensive weapon against the fiery darts of the enemy ( 1 Peter 4:12). These should be a sobering reminder; as the scripture states if we are scarcely saved; what about the ungodly (also in 1 Peter 4). There are some; as in the Corinthian church who have "fallen asleep" and who are "given over to Satan for the destruction of the body so that the soul can be saved." ( 1 Cor. 5:5).

    The Lord chastises all He loves; and they will ultimately produce fruit if they are truly saved. He is patient; but will do whatever is necessary for His plans and work in our lives to be accomplished. Truly; we are Christ's great reward for His sufferings (see Isaiah 53:11). He is given ALL authority over heaven and earth; which would be expected being a member of the Godhead. But God chose to bring Him here and to become a man suffering in all ways as we do without sin. This was God's plan and surely we all must die to ourself as the Spirit enables. Psalm 2 indicates how the world will try to break the bonds as it were of the rulership of Christ; but God has the last laugh. Surely the world will have the stone fall on them rather than falling on it.

    May we allow the pruning necessary to produce fruit. Praise God that although we were enemies of God He has reconciled us. ( Colossians 1:21). Remember that those who have taken the mark have been predestined to be reprobate as they were not written in the book of the Lamb ( Rev. 13:8).

    Agape.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Genesis 2 - 3 years ago
    I believe you're looking for Revelation 12, I gave additional Scripture in your question on same subject.

    I wanted to add: Jude 1, entire chapter & compare Revelation 12 to Luke 2:1-7, Matthew 2:7-23, John 19:30, 1Corinthians 15:20, John 21:14, Luke 22:69, Mark 16:19, Acts 5:31,

    Hopefully these are helpful also
  • Chris - In Reply on Luke 2 - 3 years ago
    Hello Steven. You can read the account that led to Joseph taking his family to Egypt, in Matthew 2:1-16.
  • Steven durant on Luke 2 - 3 years ago
    where did they flee when they fled Bethlehem
  • GiGi - In Reply on Luke 2 - 3 years ago
    Dear Carol Ann

    Jesus never sinned, so I do not think He was being disrespectful to His mother. He was most likely speaking to her in a way that was common in those times and it did not ring as rude then.
  • Free - In Reply on Luke 2 - 3 years ago
    Dear "Carol Ann Pallonetti", He was preoccupied with quite a lot other than worldly things when He was about to give up the Spirit. With Him was all wisdom from birth. He may not have recognized her at all. When He also meant that why do you grieve? You should know better!

    I also think He is rude. But He probably also knew that after His death there will be doctrines and teachings that honor the Lord's mother. He might want to point out that Honor Me all of you, do not begin and honor my mother. Unfortunately, she probably only had one task. His thoughts are not like our thoughts. When He in the flesh could say so, and yet not mean it in a Spiritual way. I also think the Lord showed His carnal side in the question to His mother. Maybe she's pushing Him? God knows!

    Have you ever woken up from anesthesia? And experienced pain hell. Then you are not properly sensed with yourself an ordinary human being either. Rather, think of what He went through here on earth. He even had to say to His disciples: How long shall I endure with you? Be happy that in His wounds we have been healed:

    Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.

    Ephesians 3.

    Stay blessed in His Holy name Jesus, love u in Christ.
  • Ty - In Reply on Luke 2 - 3 years ago
    Carol Ann,

    In current culture the term "woman" can/is, at times, be used in a derogatory manner.

    In the time of Mary a "woman" was simply a woman.

    Most importantly, Jesus also called to Mary as "woman," on the cross.

    "Woman, behold, thy son!"

    As pure as saying father or mother, with respect.

    Hope this helps! God bless!

    Ty
  • Carol Ann Pallonetti on Luke 2 - 3 years ago
    There was a statement that was made by Jesus to his Mother when she finds him in the Temple and states your Father and I were filled with worries. Jesus says to his Mother in Reply " Women do you not see that I am in the Hiuse of my Father!! Was this not be Disrespectful to his Mother???
  • Richard H Priday on Deuteronomy 23 - 3 years ago
    Luke 2:36-38 does give us one example of a woman at the Temple (Anna) who devoted her life after her husband died to prayer. We could look at Hannah also; at least spending time there imploring God's favor. Just food for thought...
  • D W L - 3 years ago
    Daniel -- 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:--(read this chapter) (Read and pray a lot.)

    John 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

    Luke 2:40-52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man. ---- If Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and favor with God and and man. Then we will need to grow and learn from our failures how to be overcomers.
  • Chris - In Reply on Luke 1 - 3 years ago
    Thank you for those references & thoughts Jeanie. I understand the requirement in the Exodus account & when I read the Luke account ( Luke 2:25-35), I seem to see a different picture. I realize that you see Simeon as a priest of the Temple, presenting to God the child Jesus. Why I balk at this is because we're first told that Simeon was a devout man in Jerusalem. Then, by the Spirit, he was led to the Temple to see this Promised One. And here is the difficulty: Joseph & Mary brought the Child to the Temple, to follow the custom of the Law (i.e. consecration). But was Simeon the priest or was there another priest, already serving at the Temple to carry out this duty? When we read the rest of Simeon's action & words, it appears to me that they weren't one of consecration, but of praise to God for allowing him this blessing of seeing the Child. And when Jesus' parents marvelled at Simeon's prophecy, Simeon blessed them (i.e. the parents) & continued with a prophecy.

    I just share the above so that you can see why I have doubts about Simeon's priestly position. He could well have been (as you say), but in my reading, the narrative causes me to doubt that & I just see him as a godly man looking for the Messiah, hoping to have a glimpse of him before he passes on.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Luke 1 - 3 years ago
    Luke 2:25-35 however it didn't say he was a priest

    Luke 1, Jesus relatives were Priests, Luke 1:5 both Elizabeth & Zacharias, note Luke 1:16-17, Luke 1:36-37, Luke 1:76,


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