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  • David - 4 years ago
    This is Jesus Christ Summary of His Ministry and the Good news Or Gospel Luke 4: 18-21 that was and is His

    Ministry show me where part of that Good News IS TALKING ABOUT HELL and I'll eat the Book. Also show me

    where in Acts or the Church Epistles where Hell and judgement and death are talked about a lot, you won't

    find it but it will talk about repentance and Deliverance believing in Jesus Christ and His resurrection from

    the dead where we have deliverance from sin and all the other junk.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Romans 13 - 4 years ago
    Please read these scriptures: John 7:1-53, Mark 2:1-28,

    This discussion came up Holidays 2019, there was hatred towards not wearing masks in donut shop Southern California 80-90 degrees near beach. Teenager asked "wouldn't Jesus just be nice" then it hit me with fire inside my spirit. I replied "Jesus would be the first to bring alarm!" "If they were going to arrest people for getting too close, touching the sick, HE'd probably be first" I could envision HIM hugging & healing people & upsetting the "norm" as "enforcers" would say "HE isn't allowed to do that."

    Luke 13:1-17, Luke 13:20-35, * Mark 3:1-6,9,10, *

    Hypocrisy of crowds, sporting events, parades, but Jesus crowds? Mark 2:2, hypocrisy= John 19:31, Luke 4:14-44,

    not wearing masks, HE'd probably be taking them off, elderly & children 1st. Would the creator of man, mankind, want them breathing carbondioxide, weaking their lungs, hiding HIS glory? 2 Corinthians, 1 John 1:1, seeking to save themselves? Luke 17:33, Matthew 16:35, Luke 8:35, John 12:25, Matthew 6:25

    Luke 6:1-19,

    John 9:1-7 can you imagine? criminal charges today?

    + HE actually gave commands to heal the sick, Matthew 10:8, Luke 10:9, Acts 4:28-30,

    "The saddest thing about all the hate, meaness, is when this is over, people will remember how badly they were treated" "let's try to remember that & be kind"

    Matthew 25:39

    It's almost 2022. Those mandates have caused division, job loss, depression etc., yet what proof of any good?

    To further answer your question: I have been in much prayer about it & I do not take lightly any scripture. I believe in USA we are a "Nation under GOD" being The People we are the ones with the Governing authority as per The Declaration of Independence, The US Constitution & all States Constitutions. The people putting forth "Mandates" know they have not authority to call them "laws" they are therefore those that "resist the power & Ordinances of GOD" & the Higher power is GOD.

    Hopefully these are helpful.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Luke 13 - 4 years ago
    I felt led to add. Years ago, I actually tried to observe the Sabbath as a Christian who never had beforehand. I learned much

    1. to observe a Sabbath: you really have to plan

    2 someone has to prepare beforehand

    3. Shop for things beforehand

    4. It opened my understanding of the scripture & GOD's compassion

    Here are multiple scriptures on the Sabbath :

    Genesis 2:2,3 (set Sabbath apart), Exodus 16:19-30 (significant differece on Sabbath) , * Exodus 23:11, Exodus 20:11 (blessed & set apart), * Exodus 23:12, Exodus 31:15, Exodus 34:21, Exodus 35:2, Leviticus 16:29-34 (atonement), Leviticus 23:1-10, (seventh day & Passover), * Leviticus 23:21-22, Leviticus 23:27-29 (atonement), Leviticus 23:28-32, * Deuteronomy 5:14, 2 Chronicles 2:4 (forever to Israel), * Isaiah 1:11-18, * Isaiah 56:1-8, * Isaiah 58:6-14,

    Jesus observed Matthew 12:8, Mark 1:21, Mark 6:2, Mark 15:42, Luke 4:16,

    Jesus set examples on Sabbath * Matthew 12, * Mark 2, * Mark 3, * Luke 6, & many more.

    * please note the (*s) these were scriptures that showed compassion & the importance to GOD. (Opposite: Luke 11:42-46 hypocrisy)

    By observing the Sabbath do we= Matthew 25:31-46,
  • Beating up Bad Demons __Slaying the Giants - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Ask the Holy Spirit to prepare you for the gift of discerning of "spirits" at work in situations. Pray to be anointed. Luke 4:18

    Jude 1:25

    25 To the only wise God our Saviour, be GLORY and MAJESTY, DOMINION and POWER, both now and EVER. Amen.

    JESUS gave his disciples HIS AUTHORITY to act and pray in Jesus Name. As we follow Jesus the Holy Spirit will prepare us for ministry.

    David was insulted by Goliaths' taunts against calling God; a NAMELESS God. He killed Goliath with a rock and took his head off; and took Goliaths' sword.

    We have to read All the Old Stories. There is Gods Perfect Will and then Gods permissive Will.

    Our Weapons are MIGHTY TO THE PULLING DOWN OF STRONGHOLDS. The Bible says WE ARE PRIESTS AND KINGS. Look up all these verses for starters ok? Chronicles-and Kings.

    It's the Holy Spirits ministry to EQUIP the Saints FOR SPIRITUAL Warfare. If you aren't willing to learn it, then as someone once challenged me.. "don't mess with college material before you learn the BASICS. Now I know how he felt. God spoke through him. I had a pity/angry party, and then I pursued the Lord with all of my strength. Every day. I wasn't Envious. I was INSULTED like David was by Goliath!!

    Demons have tried to stop me all my life; or kill me. So I say "why God won't you rescue me?! He's not gonna give you rattlesnakes till you learn to tame the firery Tongue of DOUBTS (James). Saul tried to kill David for years. GET FED UP WITH SATAN HURTING PEOPLE YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP.

    The Gospels and Jesus's Example, in spiritual warfare; plus Eph.6: is where we find our WEAPONS. Mighty through God, to the PULLING DOWN OF STRONGHOLDS. Are you a priest or ready to learn through the Holy Spirit; how to kill the giants?

    Gigi, did you listen to Iverna Thompkins videos on youtube? Go get yourself on fire and learn of JESUS's AUTHORITY. David's strength: he praised God exceedingly. I talk to HS all day long.

    He teaches of JESUS. I never get tired of it.
  • Anything that is not like God__is harmful - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 4 years ago
    Beloved child,

    When this happens to me, I know the Shepherd is calling me to Psalm 23.

    It's important to remember Job 1: satan sneaks around to find what we fear, or if we have all our armor on? There is now no condemnation.

    Time to go to the pasture. You might just sit outside and look at the clouds in the sky like me, and whisper "even so, Come Lord Jesus.

    Lord Jesus bless me with a fresh anointing as written in Luke 4:18.

    I went to this church in Tulsa for 3 years and was sent home to care for my Dad until he died. Me and friend sat behind Carman every Sunday. :D

    The Pastor in that video became Apostate. I was heartbroken. A year ago, Carman died. I refuse to stop praying for Carlton Pearson. The Holy Spirit showed me how it happened. I've never spoken of it.

    Rest a little. Watch some Carman songs on youtube: I got the joy (pick the one showing the choir). Church was fun and I learned lots! Watch "resurrection rap" and some of his hymn songs.

    M
  • Rick - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Alex Do me a favor please don't bring what the Son of God stated about scripture because he always used His

    Fathers words correctly that's why Luke 4:20 they were all amazed because his word had power which is exercised

    authority. So sir to say that we can do it because he did it, Jesus Christ said the words always with the wisdom of

    God accurately at the right time ,place ,purpose, heart , and fitting with all scripture I'd like to pull that off for

    one day! So to say that your doing that doesn't fly, just to make a point.
  • GODS TEAM JESUS_FIGHT OFFENSE_NOT DEFENSE - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Rationalizing is exhausting. 36 years saved has taught me that life is sweeter and less complicated when I obey everything Gods Word teaches. Do the Do's and avoid the Donts.

    Satan targets everybody who is following Jesus; but we have the Mind of Christ. We win at the End.

    We have Dominion, Authority of Christ, and the Power of the Holy Spirit within us. His scriptures in our mouth, are flaming arrows.

    My voice is gravely. Not good for singing, lol. I start my days singing to the Lord. It sets the motion of my day (happy). I was told as a baby Christian that "if you never run into the devil, headfirst, it might mean you're walking with him."

    Those days of head on collisions don't have to be a drag on my happiness buzz. I time out, to put some serious hurt and terror on those demonic spirits. I believe we can pray down some fire from heaven (like Elijah did). Take care of business like Jesus showed us, Ephesians 6.

    We're Gods kids and he gave us all we need to send those things to "outer darkness to wander endlessly" as in..they cannot return. In the Power and Authority of Jesus name!!

    Nothings' gonna change if we are always trying to see how close to the fire (sin) we can get; without getting burned. A day should come, when you get fed up with the cheating and sneaking around. Samson got there, but he lost his life. He lost the anointing ( Luke 4:18) and he knew. It broke his heart.

    We can pray for the anointing; which is for ministry. The Holy Spiritwhen you walk that closely with Him, and you slip up: there is an actual ache of pain from momentary separation. You will know it immediately. Don't tarry. Get to your knees and make it right.

    We are foreigners to this world we live in. Aliens. This is not our home. Our home is in heaven.

    We can't save this planet. It is written in 2 Peter 3, exactly what is going to happen to Earth. Read it. Note also 2nd Peter 3:11-13

    Jesus Loves Us. Get "in" quickly. Stay strong.
  • David - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Good Morning Barbara Due to Adams disobedience to Gods only command in Genesis 3 Eden, he handed over all the

    authority was given by God to serpent [it wasn't a literal snake figure of speech for his satans sly deception] that's why

    in luke 4:6 the devil tells Jesus all the power and authority was handed to him that was done by Adam. In Romans

    8:20-22 that was and is the effect all of creation suffers animals included satan put all of creation in a power struggle or

    his confusion. The opposite side when we believe in Romans 10:9+10 all that authority that adam lost we are given back

    to us in Ephesians 1:17-21 we again have that power and authority when we claim the name above all names

    Jesus Christ. Thank God for what he did for us by Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. Godf Bless.
  • Rick - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hello Barbara When Adam went against Gods Word the dominion and power that he had over creation was handed to the adversary or devil Luke 4:6 and that's when he became God of this world and all creation paid for that sin Romans

    8:20-22. Even the weather conditions when Hurricanes and floods, drought etc. occur its the adversary affecting remember John 10:9 The thief cometh not [his only purpose] but to steal kill and destroy. Our God is the Author of life!
  • Rick - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hi Before the incarnation of Jesus My understanding the context of Luke 4:18 is he was in Nazareth of Galilee where he had been raised own home town and keep something in mind these people new Him and the family. When he opened the scrolls and found the place where it was written, [some thing to consider right here is that the scrolls he was reading from had no chapters headings nothing just straight manuscript form] verse 18+19 an interesting detail about that is he closed the book right there and said verse 21 this day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears I.e. I'm the anointed one! This was him anouncing in His own home town the beginning of his Ministry.

    Also when he read from from Isaiah 61:1 and not all of two he stopped in the middle because the vengeance of our God does not happen until the Apocalypse when the enemies butt is kicked and all unbelief is wiped out.

    From verse 22 to 27 He's reproving them for their unbelief then it gets hot and they get angry to the point they want to kill him and he walks through them. That's why anytime he went back into his own country he could not do many mighty works because of their unbelief Mathew 13:54-58. You have got to believe to receive anything from God. Like I said this is my understanding.
  • Before the incarnation of Jesus - In Reply - 4 years ago
    I explained it clumsy. See if this is clearer.

    Though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped, but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men. ( Philippians 2:6-7)

    So in verse six, you have the preexistent Christ before incarnation in the form of God, which the next phrase defines as equality with God. Then in verse seven, you have him taking the form of a servant in the likeness of men. I think just as the term "form of God" in verse 6 does not mean "less than God" - because of the phrase "equality with God" - in the same way, the phrases "form of a servant" and "likeness of man" in verse 7 does not mean "less than human," but rather "equal with all humans." That is a real human nature.

    One of the reasons I don't believe that is what Paul meant is because he says the very opposite in Colossians 2:9. He said, "For in him", in Christ - the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily." You even wonder whether he used the word fullness there partially to say, "He didn't empty himself of that. He's not empty. He's not only not empty - he's full. He's full of deity." The whole fullness of deity dwells bodily in Jesus. So I don't think he emptied himself of anything that constitutes the essence of deity.

    [Another thing, Jesus did no miracles until after He was anointed in Luke 4:18, Isaiah 61:1]
  • David - In Reply on Numbers 14 - 4 years ago
    Abraham The revealed word and will of God concerning creation and mans and from Genesis 3:15 to revelation 22:21 the bringing to pass of his only begotten Son our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It is the only book with all truth on mans redemption and what man needs to be complete body soul and spirit to Walk with God. Luke 4:4 man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

    It is the only book that gives the truth about heaven, the world to come and the spiritual battle that is Going on between God and the devil or Satan. It is the only book that gives the truth on the supernatural the spiritual

    operation of God and satan. It is the only book that when you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart Romans 10:9+10 that you receive the spirit of God and get Born again. It Is Perfect and no other book in the world can make that claim, it is written by men that were told what to write by the Spirit of God 2 peter 1:20+21. It is perfect scientifically

    laws of physics mathematically all of creation is answered and penned by Gods Hand. If you choose to believe you can't really live without it!
  • Fear Not. Be Strong in the Power of Jesus. - In Reply - 4 years ago
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    Mark, this is what you're dealing with. I've gone through this myself. No more despairing. You have to stand up against IT. And it thinks it can take you down. Just as Ezekiel had to do in chapter 37, SPEAK OUT: in Jesus Name and by the power of his authority, I come against YOU, spirit of heaviness; I BIND your evil plans against me and in the name of Jesus of Nazareth I reject you and cast you into outer darkness to wander, forever. I forbid your return. I am a blood bought child of the Most High God! I am covered in Jesus Blood. Let me go!!!

    it's personality

    Spirit of Heaviness [a demon]

    Manifestations - Excessive Mourning, Sorrow-Grief, Insomnia, Self- Pity, Rejection, Broken-Heart, Despair-Dejection-Hopelessness, Depression, Suicidal Thoughts, Inner Hurts that won't heal.

    Study The Enemy of Tour Soul:

    Heaviness Scriptures: ( Isaiah 61:3; Luke 4:18; Nehemiah 2:2; Proverbs 15:13; Psalms 69:20; Proverbs 12:18; 15:3,13; 18:14; Luke 4:18; 2 Corinthians 1:8-9; Isaiah 61:3; Mark 9; Luke 4:18; Proverbs 18:14; 26:22)

    ITS ROOTS "The Works of the Flesh," Galatians 5:19-21.

    By their fruits you will know all men, Matt 7:20.

    According to Matthew 6:10; 11:12; 12:29; 16:18; 18:18; 28:18

    Bind: Spirit of Heaviness

    Loose: Comforter-Holy Spirit, Garment of Praise, Oil of Joy, John 15:26; Isaiah 61:3

    I know people like their own tunes, but this works for me. Listen to: Kingdom in the Streets by DION. It's on YouTube. OR, "IN 3D". Listen sometimes to Spiritual Warfare Scriptures. Type that in on YouTube and they will build up your faith. Praise will get you out of that Valley of Dry Bonesstand up on your feet and shake your fist at Heaviness.

    He has to leave. He cannot cross the bloodline of Jesus's Blood. Jesus was cool when satan was tempting Him. He just fired off some scriptures.

    You're gonna slay this Giant! Praise will get you through. Just trust me on this.

    Mishael
  • David - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Earl Love ya but your combined statements and scripture make no sense in the context of whats being spoken of biblically and how God set up life to function according to his word in this world and that which is coming. That being stated its your privilege and also responsibility to prove all things and hold fast to that which is true. Truth is what Gods word says in the context and order he set up. I'm thankful that the master jesus Christ spoke at the right time in the right way with the right words to the right people so that his father could say this is my beloved son hear ye him. Also when he taught Luke 4:32-36 when he taught they were astonished because His word had exousia exercised power displayed. Same word we have when correctly spoken Jesus Christ the same yesterday today and forever.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Psalms 68 - 4 years ago
    Chris asked if someone can share prophetic today. I've been researching that since sometime 2019-presently. There is a website called Elijah List, it has several 'prophetic words' listed for multiple years of several "Prophets" I have been able to read many then go back to check older archived words. I prayerfully read many some have been accurate. Two people really stand out today as very accurate propheticly Hank Kunneman & Amanda Grace both have been very accurate about several things. The things that were most accurate that came to pass Pastor Hank Kunneman said 2018 they wouldn't be successful in 'impeachment' that they would try twice both would fail, that the decade would start off harsh, last year snow in unusual places to be a sign that GOD hears our cries & HE will cleanse ._.etc. Amanda Grace, Ark of Grace Ministries said High tech CEO's would resign right before Bezos did, said NY Como would be caught up in scandal & resign, warning him to repent. Then said because he didn't his own party would turn against him & he would resign this year.

    Further researching I found Bob Jones & John Paul Jackson both deceased had propheied about "a perfect storm" coming to America which both were uncomfortably accurate they explained it to be s combination of many elements of Government,financial, real storms, financial, racial unrest, fires in our streets. Jackson even spoke of the storm being about 300 miles wide "Dorian"?

    Even with accurate prophecy please remember the WORD of GOD Jeremiah 27 & 28, Hosea 12:13, 1 Kings 13, Ezekiel 14:1-10, Matthew 10:41, Deuteronomy 18:15-22, John 4:44, Luke 4:24, * Deuteronomy 13:1-5, Joel 2:28, Acts 2:17-19

    Hopefully all this is helpful in your research.
  • Mishael - 4 years ago
    Isaiah 61:1 (The Prophesy)

    The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

    Luke 4:18 (The prophesy fulfilled by Jesus)

    >The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,

    Note: there are 7,146 scriptures referencing Jesus and others, anointed.

    Jesus did no miracles until he turned the water into wine.

    The purpose of the anointing is described in the 2 verses I provided.

    It is the Holy Spirit who anoints Jesus's followers.

    If the thing that people prophesy does not come to pass, do not follow them.

    The anointing is not for self enrichment.

    The office of Apostle is bestowed upon those who have seen the risen Christ with their eyes.

    Apostle Paul saw Jesus. Open your fingers. The Five Fold Ministry is the thumb, touching all other fingers: prophet, teacher, pastor, evangelist.

    I believe the office of Apostle are most likely to be missionaries in this day and age. They aren't enshrined in ivory towers, dripping in gold and riches. Think about it. They give everything they have to the work of the ministry.

    That's all I'm gonna say. No comments necessary.
  • Warfare can be stopped - In Reply on Matthew 1 - 4 years ago
    When evil walks in the room, you either feel better or afraid. That's how I judge things.

    I was folding clothes in the back room. It was real quiet. Something came in and spoke Luke 4:18. I didn't have peace with it. Something tried to get me off course. I never saw it again. It was an anointing prayer. I was a new Christian who had a wild salvation experience& much shame.

    If a spirit startles you, makes you afraid. Pray and ask Jesus to help you understand.

    The Angel Gabriel had to explain some stuff about Marys call to be Jesus's mother.

    It's important to use the search box and cue questions to it to see if it is.

    The Godhead can see and move inside and outside of Time.

    After I got saved out of the occult, some strong Bible believing Christians asked me if I wanted to be filled with The Spirit? After what I had gone through.I said no! I needed to know, from the Bible who he was; from the Bible. Weeks later, I realized He had given me the gift of discerning of spirits. It has helped me immensely. You know if it's evil, an angel or the Holy Spirit.

    The main thing is that God hides her under his wing until she knows what is happening.

    Most churches avoid teaching it because there afraid people will leave the church.

    I had to give a lift to a guy from Church!! Ten minutes in and he's acting like a snake and hissing. My knuckles turned white when he pulled a 10 inch knife out of his shirt. I sped up, kept conversation non-threatening. I was scared but I trusted God to help me.

    Possibly you can write scriptures down she can look up and hi-light in her Bible.

    There are readers of spiritual warfare verses on YouTube. Type King James spiritual warfare verses. She needs to do what Jesus did: Say it is written, you shall not trouble a child of God. In zjesus name.
  • David - In Reply on Psalms 82 - 4 years ago
    Hi Dorothea These are the scripture then you decide I choose to let Gods Word speak for itself. In the Gospel of luke 4:6 The devil says to jesus Christ all this power and glory of them speaking of the kingdoms of the world will I give thee for that was delivered unto me. Carefully notice it does not says ownership it says ruler there is a major difference. Also in 2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world has blinded the minds of those that believe not. Also Ephesians 6:12 for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities and powers again notice power. Now in Genesis Gods arch enemy satan knew that God gave dominion and power to Adam and in Genesis 3 that dominion and power was handed to serpent [figure of speech magnifying his slyness] i.e. the devil by making them believe his lie so he stole the power and glory of creation from Adam because they believed His word instead of Gods Word. Meaning God said thou shalt surely die the serpent thou shalt not surely die. They died spiritually they lost there spiritual connection with God and power over His Creation. He DID NOT INHERIT THE POWER OF THE WORLD. Now with what Jesus Christ accomplished for the believer when born again that power has been bought back for us in Christ Jesus when we walk by the spirit. Ephesians 3: Now unto him that is able to do exceedingly abundantly above all that we ask or think according to the POWER that worketh in us.
  • Adam and Eve's mistakes and Using this Website - In Reply on Genesis 5 - 4 years ago
    The Tree of Life was protected by an Angel and Adam and Eve were driven out of the garden lest they eat of the Tree of Life. They would live Eternally in a fallen state of sin.

    Adam was called first Adam. Jesus was 2nd Adam. Use the search box to look up those scriptures. Adam lost his Mandate to Satan who stole it.

    Humanity would wait for Jesus to be born human.

    He stripped Satan of the authority to cause death.

    Satan is a created angel. He is not human. He has no authority. He is an outlaw spirit who steals, kills and destroys; demons, principalities and powers. None have authority.

    Born again believers have Jesus's Authority to defeat evil. Whatever Jesus said and did; we can do too. We have dominion and authority to oppose Satan's attacks. We need the anointing of the Holy Spirit, same as Jesus was anointed. Luke 4:18. We need to know how to rightly use the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Imitate Jesus and the others. ( Hebrews 11)

    I'm really tired. We'll talk again. I'm glad you are here. You sound very centered. On weekends many young Christians visit in here. I find it's best to discern the spirits and help them to grow.

    May the Holy Spirit help us today to be gentle, tolerant, joyful in the Holy Ghost. Pray with power against the spirits of Halloween. They have no power over us, or this Bible Comment room.

    Explore the links and helps on this website; the Prayer Request room, the Commentary, Testimonies.

    At the bottom of this page are Past History by Days; this website retains, so they can be read again by newcomers. Lots to do. Goodnight and Bless you all day and tomorrow.

    Mishael
  • Rick - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hi Ready Correct doctrine always produces positive fruit and is a Glory to God,I.E. in luke 4:31+32 he taught in the synagogues and his word was with power again. In luke 7:1-10 with the centurion servant the centurion knew and believed that what Jesus Christ spoke words doctrine produced positive results good fruit. By their fruits they shall be known. In 2 Peter 1-8 verse 8 Fir if these things be in you and abound they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
  • Rick - In Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4:17 - 4 years ago
    Chris The reason the witch of endor showed shock is that the conjurer is also controlled spiritually that is part of the entire deception Samuel was dead and in Sauls desperation to hear from the true God he goes through great lengths to go to a medium. Also you said an evil spirit cannot bring forth Gods message, not true because the enemy knows what was already spoken by the true God and used it to verify the deception that Saul was actually talking to the spirit of Samuel when he was not. The enemy will always use part truth or use it out of context to complete his manipulation he always starts by getting someone to question what God says. The adversary has to use part truth in Genesis the true God thou shalt surely Die and they did Spiritually not physically but worse adam gave rulership of the world to the adversary when he disobeyed God. Luke 4:6 and 2 Corinthians 4:4. If interested in more info on subject matter look into The Book The challenging counterfeit.
  • Bill - In Reply on 1 Thessalonians 4:17 - 4 years ago
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    Good morning brother Chris!

    Oh, the power of this discussion! So much to share together and expand our minds in the Spirit.

    Your last post opens a wealth of information contained in both the Old and New Testaments as we know them.

    We must agree that we have, and will keep, very separate views of the story of the beggar, Lazarus. I have no problem with our differing views as it is my firm conviction, that with few verese excluded, God reveals truth on an individual basis. This is where we two are on this scripture.

    My personal belief is that ALL souls do, and always have, leave the body and go to a "holding place" until the gathering of the church by Christ. Further, I do not believe there is a "chasm" between the good and bad souls across which the two sides can see and talk with each other; prior to the resurrection or afterward.

    Revelation 20:14 says that death and hades, Greek, (Sheol Hebrew), are thrown into the lake of fire. Why? Because they are no longer part of God's realm - death will be absent in eternity and the residence of the souls is unnecessary because of the judgment of the non-believer in verse 20:11.

    I believe Revelation 20:14 explains the place all souls reside after death until the gathering of the church and the following judgment of the lost. If the place is named, its location is not. However, it does exist and verses indicate Christ visited Sheol during the three days prior to the resurrection - 1 Peter 3:18-20; Ephesians 4:9-10, (see Psalms 68:18, Isaiah 61:1-2, and Luke 4:18).

    Why would Christ visit the souls in Sheol? All covenants before that of Christ did not include salvation, only atonement for sin by animal blood. The spirits of all that died prior to the crucifixion and resurrection of Christ were given the chance to acknowledge Christ and His salvation to allow them to be participants in the salvation provided by the resurrection.

    God would have none perish in the eternal fire as He is love.

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  • Jesse - In Reply on Luke 4 - 4 years ago
    Hope,

    In Luke 4:4, the devil was appealing to Jesus' condition. He knew that Jesus was physically hungry from the 40 day fast and in verse 3 he was appealing to Jesus to make the stones turn to bread so that Jesus could satisfy His physical desire. Jesus says that man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God. Wow! Yes, but you are hungry, physically hungry. But what an answer that Jesus gives.

    I can look back and remember many times when I was either late or didn't show up someplace because I hadn't eaten yet. What is another hour? What is another two hours? But it is interesting that Jesus said no, you don't misuse the authority of God to fulfil the desires of the flesh, even though the desires of the flesh are going through its natural process. No food!

    In Job 23:12, one of my favorite verses, Job says "Neither have I gone back from the commandment of His lips; I have esteemed the words of His mouth more than my necessary food."

    Wow! God's word means more to me than my necessary food. Notice that he didn't say abundant food? He said it is my necessary food. God's word means more to me. Those words that come out of His mouth, I am more hungry for that than I am for physical food. So Satan challenges, and Jesus gives the citation.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Luke 4 - 4 years ago
    Luke 4:2 He fasted, 40 days was hungry, yet it's spiritual, some say supernatural

    Deuteronomy 8:3 also HE quoted scripture,

    Hopefully that's helpful.
  • Hope on Luke 4 - 4 years ago
    In Luke 4 and 4. What does it mean you cannot live on bread alone?
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Isaiah 55 - 4 years ago
    Because you quoted "what say you" I joyfully reply

    Yes

    1 Samuel 3:19

    Joshua 21:45

    Luke 4:21

    Luke 24:44

    Matthew 5:18
  • Chris - In Reply - 4 years ago
    Hello Thas. No, Jesus didn't lie when He said that only His Father knew of the time of His second appearing. Even though the Word doesn't specifically talk about this subject, i.e. how could a Divine Being come to Earth & not have all His Divine Powers still in His possession, the Scriptures do amply show us of Jesus' Divinity ( John 1:1-14; John 17:4,5; John 6:38 & many more) & Jesus' Mission on Earth ( Matthew 20:28; John 3:16; etc.).

    However, Philippians 2:5-8 gives us vital information: "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross." The key word here (for the purposes of your question), is "reputation". In the original Greek, this word is "ekenosen" (from the word, kenosis), which means 'to empty'. So, if Jesus made "Himself of no reputation", the meaning is that 'He emptied Himself' of what He had in His Deity, for the sake of becoming a man, indeed, one of 'servitude' to both God & man, so as to die on a Cross.

    We know that Jesus continued to have Divine Powers (of healing, raising the dead, knowing the thoughts of others, etc.), but there were also certain limitations that He placed on Himself while He was in the flesh on Earth and to be in subjection to His Father (by virtue of His Humanity). The one you quoted is a good example, as also Mark 5:25-32; Luke 4:1 (led of the Spirit). We can then understand that Jesus' coming was also to reveal the Glory of God ( John 1:18) & that to do so, His Own Glory had to be veiled. Therefore, we cannot know why Jesus didn't know the time of His second coming to Earth, except to understand that in His Humanity this knowledge was kept aside - but in Heaven now, He has all His Divine Attributes restored.
  • Brother dan - In Reply on 2 Timothy 3 - 4 years ago
    Hi Jon,

    In addition to prayer, God also wants us to help ourselves. Here's some scripture for you.

    Colossians 4:14 Luke, the beloved physician, and Demas, greet you.

    Luke 4:23 And he said unto them, Ye will surely say unto me this proverb, Physician, heal thyself: whatsoever we have heard done in Capernaum, do also here in thy country.

    Jeremiah 8:22 Is there no balm in Gilead; is there no physician there? why then is not the health of the daughter of my people recovered?

    Luke 5:31 And Jesus answering said unto them, They that are whole need not a physician; but they that are sick.

    Matthew 9:12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.

    Mark 2:17 When Jesus heard it, he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repent

    God provides mankind with gifted minds in a multitude of various fields, including Medicine, Pharmacy, and other varied fields including psychology: the science or study of the mind and behavior. God provides us with these people that can help and cure, or at least help us to manage our health, both physically and mentally.

    A wise person will not rule out a service provider based on their religious belief or lack of. That's like turning down emergency bypass heart surgery because the doctor might be an unbeliever. Could be the greatest heart surgeon of all time, but not doing it. Can't let you fix the hole in my roof because you're not a christian.

    Be wise, and humble and look at all your options, including prayer.

    God Bless.

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    What is the most effective way of winning a soul
  • Messenger - In Reply on Revelation 22 - 4 years ago
    replying to a comment by "Karen Newman"

    The wild beast here at revelation 13 is identifying two beast. (is a Man's number #666... 1 John 5:19)

    It speaks like a dragon (Satan the Devil is liken to a dragon Revelation 12:7-12.

    The Devil and his demons tells lies.- Genesis 3- John 8:44; Matthew 4:1-11.

    but believes and shudders- mark 1:23-26; James 2:19 )

    Satan Gives this wild beast power, a seat (throne), great authority on the earth. this beast is fatally wounded, mortal wounds (Wars/Billions slaughtered).it speaks great things and blasphemies. (speaks against God, blaspheme his name. (Through the centuries bible translations has taken out God's name. "not this king James". those who translated the bible were not ordinary men but "religious leaders"- Psalm 83:18)

    This wild beast was permitted to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them.

    ( Example:70 C.E Destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans. Hitler Germany concentration camp

    slaughter holy ones from 1933 to 1945 etc. Religious leaders supported him and walked with Hitler holding up arms with him) has authority over every tribe, and people, and tongue,

    and nation.

    This wild beat descends out of the earth;

    tells others to make an image. (what images can you think of?)

    Those who refuse to worship this image to the wild beast is killed.

    who are mislead by this man (#666 mark/more then one man) influenced by Satan the devil?

    and who is mislead to worship and bow to this image?

    All people (Follows the wild beast or with admiration, worships it)

    1. The rich

    2. The poor

    3. The free

    4. The slaves

    This wild beast (This Man, a PERSON, He/This mark 666 has authority.

    any man who had or has this mark) buys and sells

    ( Luke 4:6 This Wild beast is very rich from those worshiping and admiring him)

    Hope this helps


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