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Anne The reason is very interesting this is mentioned when in he was back in the area where he was raised in cana of galilee. In Mathew 13:54-58 we read where he went to where he was raised and because they knew the family he came out of He could not do many mighty works there because of unbelief. Many times Jesus Christ went up against people who didn't believe especially where he was raised. In luke 8:49-56 is total grace because he brought back the dead after being laughed at and had to get rid of the unbelief in the room. In luke chapter 4 beginning at verse 16 goes in teaches the word in nazareth where he had been brought up the people look at Him like who are you and how are you doing this. Verse 22 is not this the carpenters son, wrong He was the Son of God he reproves them then look at their reaction verse 28+29 not good. Verse 30 But he passing by went His way, he wasn't phased by their reaction. Prayerfully this answered your question God Bless

Thank you for that explanation brother Earl. I understand Luke 8:5-15 & can even understand your explanation of it. However, in the parable, Jesus uses the 'seed' as an illustration of God's Word being planted into various heart types. It's not used as God being planted/fallen by the wayside/etc. in their hearts. Even though the seed represents God's Word, if we interpret it as God being planted & therefore the Spirit being planted, then we corrupt the meaning & intent of that parable.

If we then allow that type of interpretation to continue, so many passages, such as Isaiah 41:8, "But thou, Israel, art my servant, Jacob whom I have chosen, the seed of Abraham my friend", might just compel one to think of the "seed of Abraham" to mean 'God's Word/God/a multiplication of gods, instead of simply Abraham's progeny. Even in evangelism, the evangelist shares/scatters the seed over different hearts. He does not scatter God or the Holy Spirit - I believe there must be a distinction, or else the meaning becomes clouded or lost.

1 Peter 1:23: here again, the Word is that the believers were born again by incorruptible seed (God's Word) as opposed to the corruptible traditions that were first delivered by their fathers (v 18) that could not give a new birth. We might agree with that one but I would disagree with: "When we depart this body of flesh; Spirit ONLY remains, Spirit is GOD, we become (the image of) God." Our spirit never becomes God; our spirits are renewed by the Holy Spirit (born again) & we bear the Image of God, but whether on Earth or depart from it, our spirits don't become God. And this belief then impacts how you understand Psalm 82. As I've already given my understanding of this Psalm in this thread to Samuel, I won't repeat it, except to state that I disagree in toto with your understanding of it; i.e. it is not prophetical at all, rather a warning to the rulers & judges, to which Jesus also inferred in John 10:34.

I appreciate your contribution Earl.

Brother Chris:

Before I ever knew of this website or read any comments Alex had written, the Spirit had already revealed to me that the Word (God) is SEED and Seed ALWAYS produces SEED just like the SEED it came from.

Wheat seed produces wheat seed, corn seed produces corn seed, no matter what seed is planted it ALWAYS produces the same seed that was planted.

Luke 8:13 Now the PARABLE is this: the SEED is the Word of God.

I know you believe the WORD is GOD; therefore GOD is SEED, GOD is SPIRIT; therefore SEED is SPIRIT, the Holy Spirit or the Holy Ghost is the WORD, the SPIRIT and ALSO the SEED.

1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible SEED (flesh), but of incorruptible SEED (SPIRIT), by the Word of God (Spirit of God, Seed of God), which (the Seed, the Spirit, the Word) liveth and abideth forever.



When we depart this body of flesh; Spirit ONLY remains, Spirit is GOD, we become (the image of) God.

As for Psalms 82 It is the Word. It is prophecy.

Psalms 83:1 God (the Word) standeth in the congregation (those that receive the Word) of the mighty; he (the Word) judgeth among the gods (gods that are flesh and gods that are born again SPIRIT; first; you bear the flesh, then the Spirit).

Psalms 82:2 How long (God, the Word) will you judge unjustly (we see no justice right now), and accept the persons of the wicked?

Psalms 82:3 (God, the Word) defend the poor and fatherless; do justice to the afflected and needy.

Psalms 82:4 (God, the Word) deliver the poor and needy: (God, the Word) rid them out of the hand of the wicked.

Psalms 82:5 They (gods of this world) know not, neither do they understand; they walk in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.

Psalms 82:6 I (God, the word) have said (and my WORDS will not return unto me void) YE ARE GODS; the children of the most high.

But ye shall die like men (flesh, and ONLY the SPIRIT will remain), and fall like one of the princes (of this world).

Amen and Amen, Brother Alex!

It is so hard for those who have not yet completely died (first death) to Christ to COMPREHEND that they are going to be EXACTLY like Christ.

When wheat seed is planted, the farmer ALWAYS harvest wheat seed. It's ALWAYS an exact copy of the seed planted.

This is TRUE of all seed planted including the WORD OF GOD.

Luke 8:11 The parable is this: the SEED is the Word of GOD.

This SEED; planted in us, will produce SEED EXACTLY like the SEED planted.

We become the living word, just as Christ is the living SEED (WORD).

At the death of this body of flesh, Jesus will send the angels to reap the harvest (SEED).

Ephesians 4:13 Til WE ALL come into the UNITY of the faith, and knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the FULLNESS of Christ.

Christ is the FULLNESS of the FATHER, we WILL BE the FULLNESS of Christ.

John 17:21 That they ALL may be ONE; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be ONE in us: that the world may BELIEVE that thou hast SENT ME.

You are going to be GODS!

Sister Laura, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

To understand the Father, the Son Jesus and the the rest of us (sons and daughters) you have to understand SEED and how it MULTIPLIES ITSELF.

Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: The SEED is the WORD of God.

The Father is the WORD; therefore, the Father is ALSO the SEED.

When you place a SEED in fertile soil the SEED sprouts (a body). That growing sprout (body) looks nothing like the SEED planted; but when that SEED matures, the sprout (body) dies and the SEED is harvested. This harvested SEED is EXACTLY like the SEED that was planted.

The FIRST SEED was the FATHER, the FIRST SEED that came from the FATHER (SEED) was CHRIST. NOW there are TWO SEED; but the TWO are EXACTLY ALIKE (ONE), there are one in the sense that when that SEED is planted again in fertile soil it will bring forth SEED EXACTLY like the SEED planted.

GOD, the FATHER, the WORD, The SEED was FIRST BEGOTTEN in Christ; therefore, Christ became a SEED. He became the fullness: God, the FATHER,the WORD, the SEED.

When this SEED (Christ in you) is mature and HARVESTED at death of the body, the you become a SEED EXACTLY like THE FATHER and CHRIST.

John 17:21 That they all may be ONE (SEED); as thou Father, are in me, and I in thee, that they ALSO may be one (SEED), even as we are one (SEED).

1 Corinthians 15:38 But God (SEED) giveth it (SEED) a body as it has pleased him, and to every SEED his (SEED) own body.

You are going to be EXACTLY like CHRIST and ready to be planted in fertile ground and bring forth more SEED.

Isaiah 59:21 And as for me, this is my covenant with them, saith the LORD; My Spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I HAVE PUT in your mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy SEED, nor out of the mouth of thy SEED'S SEED, saith the Lord, from henceforth and for ever.

We can not began to comprehend the glory awaiting us.

This isn't a comment, been receiving your verse a day for many years. Start my day off with it.But now I wake up and take the verse and put it on a app. Listening to the Holy Spirit on what to say. On line, at first I got this isn't the place for God's Word, but months later, people are saying thanks, amen, gotten JW, anti christ believer. But people our listening and growing in the word of God, Today's verse was James 4:7 Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Used submit to parents, Then I went to the prodigal son story, to the rich man and Lazarus, to putting on the whole armour of God. And lastly John 3:16. Other Bible verses Ephesians 4:27: Luke 8:11-12, I Peter 5:8, I John 3:8, Zechariah 1:3, Psalms 73: 28.

It's all about having someone come to the Lord Jesus Christ, and believing, trusting, and giving their life to him as their Savior. We both our God's servant, what a blessing!

Brother Leon, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

I BELIEVE the Spirit is revealing hidden truths to you. I will show you one of those hidden truths He has revealed to me.

The answer to every question is hidden somewhere in God's word.

Question? Who are the fowls of the air?

The answer is found in the parable of the sower.

Luke 8:5 A sower (Christ) went out to sow his SEED (word or God): and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the FOWLS OF THE AIR devoured it.

This parable is one of the few Jesus explained.

Luke 8:12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the DEVIL...

The FOWLS OF THE AIR are the DEVIL.

The fowls of the air (Satan) represent scavengers (vultures) and birds of prey (eagles). They (Satan) DEVOUR flesh and CONSUME dead flesh. Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the Kingdom of God.

1 Timothy 1:20 Of whom Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto SATAN (fowls of the air), that they learn not to blaspheme.

1 Corinthians 5:5 To DELIVER such an one unto SATAN for the DESTRUCTION of the flesh, that the spirit may be save in the day of the Lord Jesus.

Isaiah 65:25 ....and DUST (flesh) shall be the serpent's (Satan) meat .....

Revelation 19:17 And I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the FOWLS that fly in the midst of heaven (represents MAN, where God dwells), Come and gather yourselves together unto the (marriage) supper of the great God.

This is happening NOW. Our flesh is being DESTROYED so we can be married (BECOME ONE) to Christ at the death of this body.

Revelation 19:18 That ye may eat the flesh of kings (we are the kings of THE KING) .....

Revelation 19:21 And the remnant (sons of God) were slain (killed, destroyed) with the sword (TRUTH OF THE WORD) of him that sat upon the horse, which sword (TRUTH) proceeds out of his mouth: and an all the FOWLS were filled with their (the remnants) flesh.

Brother Jesse, MAY CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Your question was: When we are gathered one by one where do we go.

It's not as much a question of where do we go: BUT who do we become.

I BELIEVE we become sons of God when we depart this body of earthly flesh.

Matthew 24:40

I BELIEVE the one taken becomes a son of God and the one left stays on earth confined to death and the grave, awaiting the second resurrection.

Luke 17:37

I BELIEVE the battle of Armageddon has been going on for 2000 years. It's the battle of worldly flesh against Spirit. Your fleshly mind has to be DESTROYED. The eagles (vultures) eat flesh. I BELIEVE it's happening now, you just can not see it because it is a spiritual battle. I BELIEVE Revelation 19; along with many other scriptures, describes this DESTRUCTION of the flesh as a necessity before the the marriage of the bride (can't be seen). Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the kingdom of God.

Christ said my words are SPIRIT; the words being fulfilled, can't been seen.

Hebrews 12:18 For we ARE NOT COME unto the mount that can be TOUCHED ....

Hebrews 12:22 But you are come unto mount Sion (can't be touched or seen) (the battle for the kingdom can't be touched or seen), and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem (can't be touched of seen), and to an innumerable company of angels,

Hebrews 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to spirits of JUST men made PERFECT (mature).

If you have come into full maturity (being made perfect) then you are EXACTLY like the SEED you came from.

Luke 8:11 The parable is this: the SEED is the WORD of God.

You are a SON OF GOD. (but never with the glory of the firstborn, JESUS)

Lex,

In Luke 8:4-8, Jesus gives the Parable of the Sower. He gives the parable and in verse 9, His disciples come to him looking for an explanation. You see, He says the one who has ears to hear, let him hear. So they come! This is how Jesus is going to minister now. He's going to speak publicly in parables. If somebody has a heart, or an ear to hear, they are going to come and ask Him what does it mean? I think that is very significant!

As the Lord does minister to the general public all at once, but His serious ministry is really giving the word and drawing people to find out what the word says. It's not enough just to sit and listen. He's going to tell us that. So he says the one who has ears to hear let him hear.

But notice that there are 4 types of soil. The soil represents 4 different heart conditions. In this parable, there is only one out of the four that represents salvation, and that is the number 4 soil, the seed that fell on good ground. That is the only one that actually produced fruit.

The other three types of soil (Heart conditions) represent those who receive the same seed, but they either reject it immediately because of the hardness of their heart, they initially receive it with joy but they have no root and therefore will never produce fruit (No salvation). And then you have seed that falls among thorns, and they go forth and the cares (MERIMA) of the world choke them out and they bring no fruit to perfection. There's no salvation there because bringing fruit to perfection is salvation.

So everyone who hears the word will fall into one of these four categories. But only one of the four refers to salvation.

Here are some scriptures I looked up that indicate that believers can fall from grace, depart from the faith, or apostatize. Once again I do not know everything and if I am wrong I appreciate insight and discussion.

2 Peter 3:17

Luke 8:5-18

1 Timothy 4:1

2 Peter 2:20-22

Hebrews 3:12

Galatians 5:4

1 Corinthians 15:2-8

Who gave Jesus the cloak that the Roman soldiers cast lots for? Did Jesus mother make it for him? Or was it given to Jesus by the soldiers who flagged him?

Brother Adam, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

I BELIEVE, Christ is the BOOK OF LIFE just as he is the tree of life, the lamb of God, etc. If you are IN CHRIST and CHRIST IN YOU, then at that point you are in the Book of Life and being made ONE IN CHRIST you become a book of life, ALSO.

Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: the SEED is the WORD of GOD.

If you take a SEED and plant it; the part that emerges looks nothing like the SEED that was planted.

But at MATURITY when it is HARVESTED and put in the grain bin; it is EXACTLY like the SEED that was planted. We have the SEED; Christ himself, the WORD planted in us. Now we look nothing like the SEED; but at HARVEST (death of this body) we will be put in the grain bin (Christ body, immortality) and we will be like him; we become SEED to be planted, ALSO.

Matthew 12:37 For by my WORDS (CHRIST) thou shall be justified, and by my WORDS (CHRIST) thou shall be condemned.

If you are IN CHRIST and CHRIST IN YOU; you are being judged NOW.

John 12:48 .... the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him ...

1 Corinthians 11:31 If we would judge ourselves (by the word), we should not be judged.

1 Corinthians 11:31 But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.

1 Peter 4:17 For the TIME IS COME that judgement must begin at the house of God ...

Hebrews 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we...

A testimony by my Brother on Revelation.

"Why was the book of Revelation written? Obviously it is a part of the divine message of salvation for us, from God. Why is its message veiled? It is a message from Christ, and even durning, His brief stay here upon the earth, He sometimes veiled His message. "And he said, Unto you it is given to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God: but to others in parables, that seeing they might not see and hearing they might not understand" Luke 8:10 .

I wonder how many Christians are like me. Before helping with this present work, I used to never read Revelation. Oh, the first three and last two chapters, perhaps, but the bulk of it I never bothered with. It seemed just too deep, too hard to get anything out of it. But then why is it in the New Testament? Hopefully, this present work will stimulate many who have that same attitude to search for wisdom contained in the last book of the beloved Bible. It may not be easy; Revelation is meat not milk.

Read the book, read Revelation, then read again. We do well to heed what the Spirit says, " My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me" John 10:27 ."

He also left this testimony before he died in 2005, "It is helpful to picture each chapter of the Book of Revelation as a room belonging to a house. As each room has its use, the furniture, appliances, and utilities are in harmony with that room. When these objects are identified and associated with each room, they become fixed in our memory. We can then remember what objects are in each room (chapter). As we move through the house, we begin to see how different objects, or parts thereof, relate to each other."

My brother by his understanding as a born again Christian believed by the scriptures, while time in earth remains, a present reign in Jesus Christ.

:)

Brother Richard, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

The lake of fire is the same thing; that, in the Old Testament was called the Fire of the Lord. Natural eyes see this as literal fire; but is it?

Judges 6:20 And the angel of the Lord said unto him, take the flesh and unleavened cakes (represents us) and lay them upon this rock (represents Christ), and pour out the broth And he did so.

Judges 6:21 Then the angel of the LORD put forth the end of the staff that was in his hand, and touched the flesh and unleavened cakes (US), and there rose up fire from OUT OF THE ROCK (OUR GOD IS A CONSUMING FIRE), and consumed the flesh and unleavened cakes (US).

Zachariah 14:12 ......Their flesh shall consume away while they stand on their feet....

Revelation 19:21 And the remnant were slain with the sword (is the word of GOD, God is FIRE) of him upon the horse, which sword (WORD) proceeded out of his mouth; and all the fowls were filled with their (own) flesh.

To understand who the fowls are; we have to go to the parable of the sower of the seed.

Luke 8:5 A sower went out to so his seed; and as he sowed, some fell by the way side; and it was trodden down, and the FOWLS OF THE AIR devoured it.

Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this: THE SEED IS THE WORD OF GOD.

Luke 8:12 Those by the way side are those that hear, then cometh the devil (fowls or the air)....

Luke 13:19 It (kingdom of heaven; Christ in you) is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and cast into his garden; and it grew, and waxed a great tree; and the fowls of the air (devil) lodged therein.

John 15:5 I am the vine; ye are the branches (where the fowls lodge)...

Psalms 104:12 By them shall the fowls of the air have their habitation, which sing among the branches.

Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out DEVILS by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God (CHRIST IN YOU) is come unto you.

Hello Lyn.

Read all of Psalm 91 and Jeremiah 29:11. These promises are to all those who put there faith and hope in God.

Also, the vaccine are not of God. On my local news station, a medical physician stated that there are particles of the corkna virus in the vaccine itself, just like the H1N1 shot for Influenza. The Johnson and Johnson shot had to put on pause due to multiple reports of patients developing blood clots.

Luke 8:43-44 quotes, "And a woman having an issue of blood twelve years, which had spent all her living upon physicians, neither could be healed of any, Came behind him, and touched the border of his garment: and immediately her issue of blood stanched."

Jesus is the Great Physician, not man!

There have been reports on the news that one dose of the vaccine is no guarantee an individual may still not contract the virus. There have been multiple reports that they may have administer three phrases of the covid-19 vaccine, meaning that one shot will not be enough, and even after the third trial of shots will still not promise any results from contracting covid. This is complete medical sorcery at it's highest form.

This verse below talks about the fall of Babulon.

Revelation 18:23 quotes, "And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived."

The word sorceress in the Greek comes from the Greek word pharmakea, far-mak-i'-ah; from G5332; medication ("pharmacy"), i.e. (by extension) magic (literally or figuratively):-sorcery, witchcraft.

Stongs concordance number G5332 comes from the Greek word pharmakes, far-mak-yoos'; from phrmakon (a drug, i.e. spell-giving potion); a druggist ("pharmacist") or poisoner, i.e. (by extension) a magician:-sorcerer.

The vaccines are medical sorcery! God's advice is not to take it!

That Scripture only speaks of Lazarus arising from death & no one else. And the same would be for Jairus' daughter ( Luke 8:41-56). These are accounts of individual resurrections, as well as others as seen in the Book of Acts but none of these ascended into Heaven as Jesus did after He was dead for three days in the sepulchre.

REVELATION 13:17

May the Spirit grace us with his wisdom and his understanding.

Revelation 1:1-3 The Revelation of Jesus Christ .....things that must shortly come to pass.....and signified....

(vs 3) Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things that are written therein: FOR THE TIME IS AT HAND.

Most will study Revelation and never apply these verses to the truth of the rest of Revelation.

Signified: the nouns are symbols of something other than there definition as denoted by a dictionary. There definition can be found hidden in other scriptures in God's word.

Example:

Luke 8:5 ....and the fowls of the air devoured it.

Luke 8:11 Now the parable is this...

Luke 8:12 ....then cometh the DEVIL (fowls of the air)

Luke 13:19 (A PARABLE) It (kingdom of heaven) is like a grain of mustard seed....and the fowls of the air lodged in the branches of it.

John 15:5 I am the vine, ye are the branches (where the fowls of the air dwell)....WITHOUT ME YOU CAN DO NOTHING.

Revelation 2:13 ....Even where Satan's seat is...

Matthew 12:28 But if I CAST OUT DEVIL'S by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God (Christ in you) is come in unto you.

Revelation 12:7-10 And there was war in heaven (where is the kingdom of heaven; CHRIST IN YOU, heaven is YOU): Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

(vs 8) And prevailed not, neither was THEIR place found anymore in heaven (in you)

(vs 9) And the great dragon was cast out......

(vs 10) and I heard a loud voice (Holy Spirit) saying, Now is salvation... strength..and the kingdom....

Must shortly come to pass: the revealing of Jesus Christ, he is the kingdom of heaven: CHRIST IN YOU has to happen in before your physical body dies.

The time is at hand: If you were alive 1800 years ago these words were would have declared the kingdom of heaven to you just as they are declaring the kingdom of heaven to the person reading them at the instance.

The women mentioned here, were able to share what they had with Jesus & His disciples, as they were continually moving about in the ministry with no place to call home. So, most likely food would have been prepared for them & for their journey. And maybe they did some repair work to their clothing, or even supplied some newly sewn clothes or night covering for their needs.

Question.... what do it mean "ministered unto

Him of their substance"?

The letter i does refere to most time the person beeing address.

I was wondering if. The letter l has any biblical meaning. When I look at the words world and word there is only one difference and that is the letter l. I know there is a reason for everything and just wondering. Any comments?

john knew it was time for jesus ministry to begin and his to come to a end he prepared the way .

If you read what I posted I think it's obvious that Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist to fulfill all righteousness.

Matthew 3:15 "And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him." 16 "And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:"

If you look at the bottom of your previous response, this was in reply to why you questioned, the need for Jesus to be baptized.

these are your words, The question, Why did Jesus need to be baptized is a good question.

Are you saying that you agree that Jesus was baptized? That is certainly what the Bible tells us.

In Old Testament, the Jewish people and their ancestors were given the Law to observe. First, What Adam and Eve should observe was that they could not eat the fruits from the tree of wisdom. Then, their son Cain was told that he should not kill. As sins became increased, the laws were also added more. Up to the generation of Moses, the Law in Old Testament was given to Israelites. We know that the Law is good and the Law is used to punish people who commit sins, but people cannot obey the Law because the sinful spirits are in people. Even that we know stealing and giving false testimony are sinful, but greedy and pride spirits in us drive us to do sinful things. So as Old Testament prophesied we need to get rid of our sinful nature from our spirits.

Ezekiel 36 section 24-27 says: "'For I will take you out of the nations; I will gather you from all the countries and bring you back into your own land. I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.

The prophecies are fulfilled when Jesus begins to teach love. The two greatest commandments are " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'" Love is above the Law and if people have love they are free from the law of sin and death. People who are full of love will not think about stealing or giving false testimony but are merciful and they feed hungry people or give thirsty people something to drink or invite strangers in or clothe people who need clothes. The Law is for people who commit sins. Nobody will say that he will get reward because he does not steal before. But love is the grace we get.

can you love GOD but still sins

Jesus did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill, If you read in Luke he was also circumcised and he didn't need to be, likewise in Matthew, John says that he needed to be baptized of Jesus, but Jesus reply's that all righteousness needs to be fulfilled.

Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil."

Luke 2:21 "And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb."

Matthew 3:11 "I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:"

Matthew 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him. 14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me? 15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him. 16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him: 17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

When a person is baptized they confess their sin. And in Matthew we learn Jesus was baptized.

Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.

Matthew 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.

14. But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?

15. And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

16. And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

Hello Marilyn,

Where are you getting "Jesus needed to be baptized or to repent of something"? So you don't believe Jesus Christ lived a sinless life for you and me?

Jesus Christ is completely on a different level than all other people. Even John saying that he needed to be baptized of Him in Matthew 3:14-15. Jesus saying He did it to fulfill all righteousness. Maybe just to humble himself.

So the question really is do you believe Jesus Christ lived a sinless life and was sent by God the Father?

Marilyn Taplin, You err greatly.

"However, there must have been something he needed to repent of."

Jesus never sinned.

"Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth" 1 Peter 2:22

"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin" 2 Corinthians 5:21

"And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin." 1 John 3:5

Peter said he didn't, Paul said he didn't and John said he didn't, but you "suppose" he did. In your fifty years of Bible study, have you seen any verse that, states in context, that he sinned?

The "why" has no connection to baptism, as Rod explained to you.