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  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hi Jaz,

    As S Spencer said we may not know for sure.

    We all have inside us, a sinful nature from the first Adam, we also have a conscience, the knowledge of good and evil, and the knowledge of God. We first see this when Adam and Eve hid themselves because they were naked. We see some go so far into the darkness that their conscience can be seared, the conscience no longer tells them good from evil, 1 Timothy 4:2. There is a point where God turns them over to a reprobate mind, Romans 1:28-32.

    I believe there will be those who enter eternity who have never heard the gospel, and those who lived before Jesus first came because we have a loving and just God.

    Romans 2:11-16 For there is no respect of persons with God. 12 For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law; 13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves: 15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;) 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

    My understanding is this will happen at the great white throne judgment, Revelation 20:11-15, in this it says, "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire". If some were not found in the Book of Life means some were found in it. I know many may not agree but if we consider verses like Daniel 12:2 Matthew 25:31-46 John 5:28-29 to me these also point to this white throne judgment.

    I am sure our loving and just God communicates with those who have not had a chance to read or hear Scripture, I believe the blood of Christ will cover them as well.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Jesse - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Continuation in Matthew, (Part 32):

    Matthew 24:34 - Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.

    The word generation itself has no association with years at all, unless you put the years with it. The word generation means race or kind of people. GENEA is the word, and it means a race or kind of people. Basically, what He saying here, is this kind or race of people (the Jews), shall not pass away until all these things be fulfilled. They are His elect. They are His protected people, His chosen people, and He will fulfill His promises to them.

    Matthew 24:43 - But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

    The word goodman is actually the house master in Greek. If the House master had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

    Matthew 25:1 - Then shall the kingdom of heaven be likened unto ten virgins, which took their lamps, and went forth to meet the bridegroom.

    They had no lamps in those days. In those days it was a torch. It was a stick with cloth wrapped around it. And they would soak the cloth in oil, and they would light it. And they would bring an extra bottle of oil along and keep it lit.

    Matthew 25:24 - Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:

    The word strawed means to scatter, DIASPORA. You gather together where you haven't even scattered anything. That is a hard man!

    Matthew 25:27 - Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

    He says to give your money to the exchangers, and then at my coming, I should have received mine own with interest. That is what usury means, with interest.
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    John 11:20-24

    20 Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met him: but Mary sat still in the house. (JESUS is coming and is at door, it is midnight, Behold, the bridegroom cometh, go ye out to meet HimMatthew 25:6and10.

    21 Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.

    22 But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of GOD, GOD will give it thee.

    23 JESUS saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.

    24 Martha saith unto JESUS, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection AT THE LAT DAY. (Seventh and last Day, the Lord's Day, or seventh and last millnnium.. This Day arrived)

    Be cereful or else get ready
  • Shantel - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jesse

    I would like to add to you comment.

    Predestination is predetermining something.

    Before the foundation of the world God predetermined that he would destroy sinful man from the face of the earth, and conform them to the IMAGE of his SON.

    Matthew 25:34 .... Come, ye blessed of the Father, INHERIT the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world.

    He chose the cross as his instrument.

    He was going to do this ONLY ONCE.

    In the fullness of time God sent his SON to take all the wrath of God for mankind, not to take the place of mankind, mankind had to also died on that cross.

    Three days latter, to fulfill God's words, God resurrected CHRIST, and ALL mankind was resurrected as HEIRS OF CHRIST, his IMAGE, as he is the IMAGE of the Father.

    He came to fulfill all the scriptures that were written about HIM, the kingdom of God.

    There is more than enough of his speaking to the multitudes to come to the conclusion what his death and resurrection would accomplish: man becoming HIS IMAGE.

    John 17:21 That they ALL may be ONE; as thou, Father, art IN ME, and I IN THEE, that they may be ONE IN US; that the world may believe thou has sent me.

    Mark 10:8 And they twain, shall be ONE FLESH: so then they are no more twain but ONE FLESH.

    Ephesians 2:15 ..... for to make in himself of twain ONE NEW MAN ......

    John 10:34 Jesus answered them, IS IT NOT WRITTEN in your law, I SAID,Ye are gods?

    Psalms 82:6 I have said: Ye are gods; and ALL OF YOU the children of the most high.

    Psalms 82:7 But ye shall DIE LIKE MEN, and fall like one of the princes (Satan).

    This was fulfilled on the Cross of Christ.

    Isaiah 41:23 Shew the thing that are TO COME HEREAFTER, that we may know ye are gods ......

    God Bless You
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    1Thessalonians 4:15-17

    15For this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord,that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

    16For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout,with the voice of the archangel(Michael- Daniel 12:1-3),and with the trump of GOD:and the dead in Christ shall rise first:(resurrection of the believers)

    17Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the CLOUD(same cloud of Acts 1:9-11),to meet the Lord in the AIR(on high,3rd heaven,THE NEXT TO BE ESTABLISHED BY THE ALMIGHTY GOD- Micah 4:1-8 combined with 2Corinthians 12:2-4 and Luke 20:35-36,and John 14:3 and John 17:24,among other biblical references),and so shall we(THE ELECTS)ever be with the Lord.

    Matthew 25:6&10

    6And at midnight there was a cry made(TURN from the sixth to the seventh Day-Lord's Day),Behold,the bridegroom cometh;GO YOU OUT TO MEET HIM.

    10...the bridegroom came;and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage:and the door was shut.

    Get ready

    2Thessalonians 1:7-12

    7And to you who are troubled rest with us,when the Lord Jesus shall be REVEALED from heaven with his mighty angels,

    8In flaming FIRE taking VENGEANCE on them that know not GOD ( Matthew 11:27),and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

    9Who shall be PUNISHED with everlasting DESTRUCTION from the PRESENCE of the Lord,and from the Glory of His Power;

    10When he shall come to be glorified in his saints,and to be admired in all them that believe(because our testimony among you was believed)in that day.->Lord's Day,seventh and last Day
  • Oseas - 1 year ago
    The material things are figures of spiritual things,the parables of our Lord JESUS are good examples.By the way,the letter kills,the Spirit gives life-2Co.3:6.The angel of the Lord,John the Baptist,said:he that is of the earth is earthly,and speaketh of the earth-Jo.3:31.

    This says he that has the key of David,he that opens,and no man shutteth;and shuts,and no man openeth;

    The heavens and the earth,which are now(the 1st and 2nd heavens,the 3rd heaven will be established from now on),by the same Word(Word of GOD,the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing)are kept in store,reserved unto FIRE against this Day of Judgment and perdition of ungodly men,the heavens(the 1st and 2nd heavens,the 3rd will be established from now on)shall pass away with a great noise,and the elements shall melt with fervent heat,the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up- 2Peter 3:7and 10 and Matthew 10:28 combined with Isaiah 33:10-14,take a look.

    So,our thinking can not be from a mere human perspective,but from GOD's perspective revealed in His Word,you know the Word is GOD, GOD Himself,self-executing.JESUS made it clear saying to the Jews:Mat.23:33-Ye serpents,ye generation of vipers,how can ye escape the damnation of hell?->the hell's fire,of course- Matthew 10:28.Take a look.

    Matthew 25:31-34&41

    31When the Son of man shall come in His glory,and all the holy angels with him,then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

    32And before him shall be gathered all nations:and he shall separate them one from another,as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

    33And he shall set the sheep on his right hand,but the goats on the left.

    34Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand,Come,ye blessed of my Father,inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

    41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand,Depart from me,ye cursed,into everlasting fire,prepared for the Devil and his angels:->these shall go away into everlasting punishment.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Chris

    Do you believe in JESUS, Chris? He is GOD, do you understand?

    In fact your thinking is from a human perspective, a stumbling block, not from GOD's perspective. Matthew 16:22-23. He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaks of the earth. He that comes from above is above all, what he has seen and heard, that he testifies; What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing, understand?

    In fact I know perfectly the proper grasp of that Scripture which you offer to explain in likeness Genesis 3:1. By the way, my Lord JESUS make it very clear, saying -> Matthew 25:29-30:

    29 Unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.

    30 Cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Do you believe in JESUS, Chris? He is GOD, understand?
  • Oseas - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Greetings in Christ JESUS, SeanPaul'

    Yes,certainly,as you said,GOD HIMSELF manifested himself to the Hebrews through the OT;which was written by the twenty-four elders,starting with Moses,understand?By the way,JESUS said GOD is Spirit- John 4:24-,what is the name of the invisible Spirit of GOD?Well,GOD had said in the beginning- Genesis 1:26(the beginning is JESUS,who is the LITERAL IMAGE of GOD,He is GOD)-, yes, GOD had said:"Let us make man in OUR image,after OUR likeness", then, both are One, and as we can see, since ancient times, since Genesis, GOD revealed He would be made flesh.

    By the prophet Isaiah,who is one of the 24 elders,GOD again revealed He would be made flesh, and around 2000 years ago He LITERALLY fulfilled His promise- John 1:14-and what is the NAME that GOD chose for He Himself? The NAME that GOD chose for He Himself was/is JESUS - JOSHUA-. Luke 1:26-the angel GABRIEL was sent FROM GOD(the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing) unto a city of Galilee,named Nazareth,and said to Mary:behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a SON, and shalt call his NAME JESUS. He shall be great, and called the Son of the Highest: the Lord GOD(the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, self-executing) shall give unto Him the throne of His father David.

    Remember: The Jews said to JESUS: John 8:41-we have one Father, even God. And JESUS said to the Devil, father of the Jews-Yahweh:It is written,Man shall not live by bread alone, but by EVERY WORD that proceedeth out of the MOUTH OF GOD-Mat.4:4.

    Psalms 110:1combined with Hebrews 1:8(plus Matthew 25:11, James 2:1, Isaiah 49:14, Luke 20:42, 1 Corinthians 9:1) -

    GOD said to the Lord JESUS:Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy Kingdom.

    KJV Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2, Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 26:4 LORD=JEHOVAH; ->JEHOVAH is another esoteric and kabbalistic and spiritist nickname of the father of the Jews.

    Luke 16:5 lord=a King or one of authority,yes, see John 18:37.
  • SeanPaul - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Thanks you for explaining the difference and use of the name and by whom, Now I know the difference. I don't think Bible hub will burn as I was only translating Old Testament, and the Old Testament was given in Hebrew and was given to them as there laws in Hebrew.

    In KJV there are 3 different uses of the name. LORD and Lord and lord. Psalms 110:1(A Psalm of David.) The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool. I think this explains it best.

    KJV Psalms 83:18, Isaiah 12:2 , Exodus 6:3, Isaiah 26:4 LORD = GOD JEHOVAH, LORD GOD of Israel

    KJV Psalms 110:1, Matthew 25:11, James 2:1, Isaiah 49:14, Luke 20:42, 1 Corinthians 9:1 Lord = Jesus

    KJV 2 Samuel 24:3, Luke 16:5 lord = a King or one of authority

    I actually found the Psalms answer on u-tube form someone studying the KJV 1611 he was proving the KJV is the true word of GOD and just so happened to answer my question at the same time. I added these verses I found because I didn't mention any books or verses in my original question because it is every translation in Old Testament I compared no matter which book or verse. And I also found this.

    Yahweh is the name of Israel's God and the God who came to earth as Jesus Christ, Yahweh in the flesh. Matthew 1:21 says, "She will bear a son, and you shall call his name Jesus, for he will save his people from their sins." The name Jesus is from the Latin form of the Greek form of Yeshua, which literally means "Yahweh saves." So Yahweh will save His people from their sins, and simultaneously Jesus will save His people from their sins. This is just one of many instances where Jesus and Yahweh are equated.
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    More on John 16:8

    And when He comes, He will convict the world in regard to sin and righteousness and judgment: 9in regard to sin, because they do not believe in Me; 10in regard to righteousness, because I am going to the Father and you will no longer see Me; 11and in regard to judgment, because the prince of this world has been condemned.

    It is interesting that all of this verse as to the work of the Spirit seems to be in regard to Christ; and seems to be rather indirect as to the individual. Rather than defining particular sins or even the sin nature; the sin of unbelief which led to the most serious errors of the Pharisees who deliberately blinded themselves to the truth and then God no doubt hardened them further is the focus here. For righteousness is again pointing toward Christ; and the focus being perhaps at His next phase at the "Second Coming" and how He will be the righteous King. We are reminded of John 20:29 said to Thomas that blessed are those who have NOT seen yet believe. The third part of this verse is judgment; but it points to Christ again; but this time to Satan's condemnation already established; rather than our own.

    Since this verse is a positive influence leading to salvation for His elect and one of condemnation for the unregenerate; we see that this by default puts us in the position to face what Satan does as he is our de-facto ruler if Jesus isn't. (see Matthew 25:41). Hell wasn't apparently created for us but if we are cursed we end up there. Our ruler the prince of the power of the air ( Eph. 2:2) is controlling the masses through his elaborate economic and spiritual world system which is coming to its full and ugly climax as we see Babylon in both forms described in Revelation 17 and 18; and in much of Jeremah in the O.T.

    Isaiah 10:7 states Howbeit he meaneth not so, neither doth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few.

    This shows even Antichrist doesn't know how bad he is
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    Psalms 115:17

    17The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence.

    And JESUS said (around 2000 years ago): let the dead (they which have not the Spirit of GOD, Spirit of life) bury their dead. Matthew 8:17

    Daniel 12:1-2 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:16

    Michael comes first, and after of him comes Lord JESUS.

    12:1 at that time(at this current time, or at this Day, the Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day/millennium)shall Michael (the archangel) stand up, ...

    12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake (RESURRECTION), some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

    1 Thes.4:15- For this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord (the Word is GOD, self-executing), that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent(precede) them which are asleep.

    1 Thes. 4:16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel-Michael- , and with the Trump of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

    And 1Corinthians 15:51-54 reveal:

    51 Behold, I shew you a mystery;We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,(Compare with Philippians 3:20-21)

    52 ...at the last trump:for the trumpet shall sound,and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,and we shall be changed.

    (the trumpet shall sound:Re.11:15-And the seventh angel sounded;and there were great voices in heaven(heaven??? Ephesians 1:3-8), saying, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Matthew 5:5-JESUS said: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth).

    53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. (CAUGHT???)

    54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,Death is swallowed up in victory.-Hallelujaaaah!!!

    Get ready --> Matthew 25:10
  • Ronald Whittemore - 2 years ago
    Just a little on when Jesus returns.

    Scripture tells us Jesus returns only one time, Zachariah 14:4 Matthew 24:30 Acts 1:11 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Hebrews 9:28 Rev. 1:7 Rev. 6:15-16. When Jesus returns those who are chosen and faithful are resurrected to reign on earth with Jesus, Rev. 17:14 Daniel 2:44 Daniel 7:26-27 2 Timothy 2:12 Rev. 5:10 Rev. 11:15.

    This reign on earth begins after the tribulation and the armies of Satan, the beast, the false prophet, and the ten kings/countries of the beast who destroy mystery Babylon come to battle Jesus in the battle of Armageddon, Zachariah 14:1-3 Ezekiel 39:17-22 Rev. 19:17-19 Rev. 16:13-16. In Rev. 20 we see Satan bound and sealed in the bottomless pit for 1000 years. Jesus then sets up the Kingdom on earth and we see the judgment of those in the first resurrection who will be reigning with Jesus on earth for 1000 years Rev. 20:4-6.

    The 1000-year Kingdom will be on the earth, but it will be very different from the world today without the temptation of Satan, Isaiah 65:25 Zechariah 14:16 It will be a time when Lord Jesus and those chosen to rule the nations with an iron rod so that all the promises of God be fulfilled, all the boundaries of land God promised Abraham have never been, Genesis 15:18-20 Numbers 34:1-12 but they will in the future.

    We know from Rev. 20:7-10, that there will be nations after the 1000 years that Satan will go out to deceive and bring them together to battle. After this battle, a fire burns up the earth and Satan is cast into the lake of fire, "the earth and the heaven fled away" The final Judgment of the white throne is not just for the lost, and all in this judgment who is not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the lake of fire, Rev. 20:11-15, Daniel 12:2 Matthew 25:32-46 John 5:28-29.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    And now JESUS WILL RETURN AGAIN HERE IN THE SAME PLACE from where He ascended to the third heavenly environment and a cloud RECEIVED Him: Acts 1:10-11)-->10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen Him go into heaven.

    yes, He will again return now IN LIKE MANNER to the same place from where He ascended, and He will reign and lead us in new celestial environment ( Ephesians 1:3) by His power, for a period of 1.000 years, the SAME CLOUD also will appear again, understand?) , as it is revealed in Philippians 3:20-21: -->20 For our conversation is in heaven (heaven: Ephesians 1:3. Take a look.)-; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto himself. By the way, He made it very clear when He said: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth- Matthew 28:18.

    Get ready,Behold, the bridegroom cometh;go ye out to meet Him- Matthew 25:6.

    Lets pray

    Unfortunately,there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Re.18:1-3

    According to GOD's Word,what needs to happen first? Exactly what is written in Revelation 18:1-5,i.e. the Judgment of the Great Whore,as follows:

    1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven,having great power;and the earth was lightened with his glory.

    2And he cried(will cry)mightily with a strong voice,saying,Babylon the great is fallen,is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils,and the hold of every foul spirit,and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

    3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication,and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her...

    Get ready
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    Exodus 19:11 & 14-20

    11And be ready against the third day:for the third day the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

    14And Moses went down from the mount unto the people,and sanctified the people;and they washed their clothes.

    15And he said unto the people,Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.

    16And it came to pass on the third day in the morning,that there were thunders and lightnings,and a thick cloud upon the mount,and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud;so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.

    17And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with GOD;and they stood at the nether part of the mount.

    18And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.

    19And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and GOD answered him by a voice.

    20And the Lord came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the Lord called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.

    John 2:18-20

    18Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

    19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

    20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

    Hebrews 1:1-2

    1GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

    2Hath in these last days (last two Days or last 2000 years)spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;

    The third Day arrived, the clothes must be washed,the Lord shall descend from heaven(from the 3rd heaven),the dead in Christ shall rise first- 1Thessalonians 4:16 and Revelation 19:7-8.

    Matthew 25:6-Behold,the bridegroom cometh;go ye out to meet Him.
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Addendum to discipleship.

    In my last post after I got wiped out AGAIN the first time I forgot to elaborate on the verse of the servant who said he wouldn't do something and later does; and vice versa. ( Matthew 21:30). We need to test the validity of a true disciple over time not instant following; that concept is also true for identifying who is truly saved; and corresponds with the parable of the "good fruit".

    Another thought before I attempt to get into what seems clearly "secondary issues" I will also add to this discussion by stating that someone who is a true disciple has to make the hard decisions to go against church leadership or bring a disciplinary issue up with the church if one on one with a rebellious brother proves futile. This would include and I fear increasingly so these days challenging those who are teaching errant doctrine; no matter how esteemed the minister. If we aren't willing to be jealous for His Name's sake; we may end up with a church being much the same as the Temple was when Jesus had to clear it out overturning the moneychangers tables; that is a house of merchandise that is literally selling out the souls of men under it's roof. This is following in Christ's footsteps; and walking in the Spirit means we love the things He loves; and hate things He hates.

    Furthermore; being a disciple means standing up for brothers and sisters who are being persecuted; even to risking our own lives when necessary. I won't give a manual on the subject as it varies depending on the situation we are in; protecting our family and whatever the Lord brings into our lives as a challenge in this area. Nonetheless; it is how we take seriously verses such as Matthew 25:36 which I believe is ultimately fulfilled in the Tribulation which will determine those who are saved by their behaviors when all of God's people are imprisoned or killed for their faith and support anywhere in the world will guarantee our lives are in jeopardy.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 2 years ago
    The watchmen that went about the city found me, they smote me, they wounded me; the keepers of the walls took away my veil from me

    ( Song of Solomon 5:7).

    Perhaps for context we can look at these verses ( Matthew 25: 1-13). Specifically verse 5 says "

    "While the bridegroom tarried, they all slumbered and slept."

    The main theme of Song of Solomon is about two lovers; the one woman had; in previous verses heard the knocking of the door. "I sleep, but my heart waketh: it is the voice of my beloved that knocketh, saying, Open to me, my sister, my love, my dove, my undefiled: for my head is filled with dew, and my locks with the drops of the night." ( Song of Solomon 5:2).

    Here we see some similarities to Revelation 3:20 "Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me."

    We are to wait for the bridegroom; this story reminds us of the foolish virgin. Verse 6 in this chapter of Song of Solomon seems to also say the same thing; possibly an analogy of missing the Rapture.

    There is some conjecture to beating fellow servants which is in Matthew 24:48 to the end which would seemingly represent servants warning of the Rapture who are rejected today. Luke 12:47 says

    And that servant, which knew his lord's will, and prepared not himself, neither did according to his will, shall be beaten with many stripes.

    This could also be a parallel verse to Song of Solomon 5:7.

    This particular topic came up with some who espoused the idea that there was a "phased rapture". I tend to agree with the Rapture being a reward for a remnant of those sold out for the Lord now; but a later resurrection of the dead either at the midpoint or the end of the Tribulation. That is what I would call a tertiary issue; eschatology as to Pre Trib or not view secondary. The main thing is not to become lukewarm. As my latest posting shows I don't like to get too much into hidden meanings.

    Agape.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Bennymkje

    If I had include Enoch in the list of twenty four elders I would be a liar, understand?

    Your thinking about me myself according Scriptures is irrelevant, it is from a human perspective, a stumb block, not from GOD's perspective.

    Have you never read? My Lord JESUS made it clear, saying: Unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath- Matthew 25:29.

    Be careful

    Don't you know that the saints shall Judge the world? Yeah, the world shall be Judged by the saints. Know you not that the saints shall Judge angels?
  • Chris - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello EPAB. In this chapter of giving wise counsel in view of life's uncertainties, we see in Ecclesiastes 10:2, that the "right hand" is equated to 'wisdom', as the "left (hand)" to foolishness. When we look at the Scriptures, we often see the emphasis of the 'right hand' as it applies to action taken as a result of one's decision ( Matthew 5:30, Matthew 6:3); of being in the place of God's Approval ( Matthew 25:33,34); and of Power & Authority ( Matthew 26:64, Acts 2:33; Revelation 1:16).

    So here in Ecclesiastes, to say that "a wise man's heart is at his right hand", implies that a wise, prudent person will always have his heart direct his thoughts, & then his actions towards his 'right hand' (and this is seen as the place of wise & correct action based on sound knowledge & judgement). Are there any then wise in their actions (i.e. always towards the right), or having hearts that are foolish, going to the opposite place (the left) of risk, speculation, with error & regret following?

    Yet, as Christians, we are blessed above all, not relying (or, leaning) only on our own understanding as we fully trust in the LORD, only acknowledging Him in all that we do, and we will know how perfectly He directs our paths ( Proverbs 3:5,6).
  • Oseas - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Greetings in Christ JESUS,sisters Ellen and Momsage

    Praise our Lord JESUS Christ,which is,and which was,and which is to come,the Almighty.Aleluia!

    Yes,the Word is GOD.Once the Word of GOD is in your heart,it is GOD dwelling within you,understand?in your heart,and is everlasting Life,understand?Aleluia.

    Our conversation is in heaven(heaven?Ephesians1:3-8 & 2:6-10);from whence also we look for the Saviour,the Lord Jesus Christ:Who shall change our vile body,that it may be fashione like unto His glorious body,according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto Himself- Philippians 3:20-21.

    JESUS assured us,saying:Jo.7:38-39:->38 He that believes on Me,as the Scripture has said,out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.

    39This spake He of the Spirit,which they that believe on Him should receive.

    GOD is Spirit,as our Lord JESUS said,and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in Truth-Jo.4:24.

    JESUS said:Jo.5:24-25

    24Verily,I say unto you,He that hears my Word,and believes on Him that sent me,has everlasting life,and shall not come into condemnation;but is passed from death unto life.

    25...The hour is coming,and now is,when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of GOD:and they that hear shall live.

    The manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal. Cor.12:8-11:

    8For to one is given by the Spirit the Word of wisdom;to another the Word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

    9To another faith;to another the gifts of healing;

    10To another the working of miracles;to another prophecy;to another discerning of spirits;to another divers kinds of tongues;to another the interpretation of tongues:

    11But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit,dividing to every one severally as He will.

    Wherefore I put thee in remembrance that thou stir up the gift of GOD, which is in you, aleluia.

    Our Lord JESUS promised us,saying:Unto every one that has shall be given,and he shall have abundance- Matthew 25:29.Aleluia.
  • MotherMac - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I read this post by Oseas:

    "To be anointed with oil is to be separated as GOD's chosen one- Matthew 25:31-34. Take a look. The true chosen ones of the Lord are prudent and wise, they have lamp to shine as they walk in the world of darkness, and enough oil to keep the lamp burning to meet the Lord, the bridegroom, and be saved. By the way, He said: Revelation 3:11-13:

    11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no one take thy crown."

    This post was from Richard.

    The last point for now is that we must be open for others to pray for our needs as well. We need each other.

    If momsage reply was for me, this is what I meant. It was good to read those words as I travel this road thorough this barren land among people that seemed to have loss faith in the future.

    We need to encourage each other.

    It is good for me to know that I am on the "right" road.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen, sister Ellen

    I exceedingly appreciated your reply

    As you know, the kings of Israel chosen by GOD they were anointed with oil by the prophets of the Lord.

    To be anointed with oil is to be separated as GOD's chosen one- Matthew 25:31-34. Take a look. The true chosen ones of the Lord are prudent and wise, they have lamp to shine as they walk in the world of darkness, and enough oil to keep the lamp burning to meet the Lord, the bridegroom, and be saved. By the way, He said: Revelation 3:11-13:

    11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no one take thy crown.

    12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my GOD, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my GOD, and the name of the city of my GOD, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my GOD: and I will write upon him my new name.

    13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

    Att all times, let your garments be white, and let oil not be wanting on your head - Ecclesiastes 9:8.

    Revelation 19:5-8:

    5 And a voice came out of the throne, saying, Praise our GOD, all ye His servants, and ye that fear Him, both small and great.

    6 And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth.

    7 Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to Him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and His wife hath made herself ready.

    8 And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

    Regarding mystery of GOD, I have already commented in prior posts, our Lord JESUS-the Word made flesh- spoke of this in Matthew 11:27, and according His promise, unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance. Hallelujah!.

    May our Lord GOD bless and keep us, and give us His protection

    Amen
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Bryanna.

    Barring fruit.

    Part 2.

    Staying intimately connected to the True Vine is the only way to "bear fruit in old age" ( Psalm 92:14), to "run and not grow weary" ( Isaiah 40:31), and to not "grow weary in well-doing" ( Galatians 6:9).

    One counterfeit to bearing good fruit is pretense. We can become experts at the routines, the lingo, and "acting Christian," while experiencing no real power and bearing no eternal fruit. Our hearts remain self-centered, angry, and joyless even while we go through the motions of serving God. We can easily slip into the sin of the Pharisees of Jesus' day in judging ourselves by how we think we appear to others and neglecting that secret place of the heart where all good fruit germinates. When we love, desire, pursue, and fear the same things that the rest of the world does, we are not abiding in Christ, even though our lives may be filled with church-related activity.

    And, often, we don't realize that we are living fruitless lives ( 1 John 2:15-17).

    Our works will be tested by fire. Using a different metaphor than fruit,

    1 Corinthians 3:12-15 says, "If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person's work. If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved-even though only as one escaping through the flames."

    God is the judge of even our thoughts and motivations. All will be brought to the light when we stand before Him ( Hebrews 4:12-13).

    God knows what He has entrusted to each of us and what He expects us to do with it ( Luke 12:48). Our responsibility before God is to be "faithful with little" so that He can trust us with much ( Matthew 25:21).

    God bless.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 2 years ago
    MotherMac

    Greetings in Christ JESUS

    Thanks for your kind reply

    GOD grant that we may be like the children of Isaachar (verse 32 below) in His hands, hands of GOD the Almighty.

    I Chronicles 12:23-40

    23 Now these are they that came to David to Ziklag, while he yet kept himself close because of Saul the son of Kish: and they were among the mighty men, helpers of the War.

    ....

    ....

    ....

    32 And of the children of Issachar, which were men that had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do;(now, what the Lord's Church of the Lord ought to do, even now, from now on, for example Matthew 25:6); the heads of them were two hundred; and all their brethren were at their commandment.

    ...

    May our Lord GOD BLESS and keep us, and give us His protection

    Amen
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    Daniel 2:44

    44 And in the days of these kings shall the GOD of heaven set up a Kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the Kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

    GOD revealed to Daniel and to Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon (and to us too), that the Kingdom He establishes it can NEVER be destroyed, neither be left to other people. GOD's dominion on Earth is absolute, an example or proof is the GOD's garden, garden of Eden, that was governed by a Cherubim that GOD had created to rule and protect the garden. The reign of Eden was not destroyed by a conventional war or invasion of enemies, neither left to other people.

    The same will occur from now on with the millennial Kingdom of GOD, it will never be destroyed or invaded by the enemies.

    Revelation 11:15-18

    15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

    16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped GOD,

    17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord GOD Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

    18 And the NATIONS were ANGRY, and thy WRATH is come(GOD's WRATH), and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest DESTROY them which destroy the earth.

    Get ready

    Matthew 25:10->And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

    Do you know the Hymn "When the Trumpet of the Lord shall sound"? Or "When the Roll Is Called Up Yonder"? Listen to this hymn and wake up,... fast.
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    Ronald Whittemore

    Paul prophesied:1Tessalonians 4:15

    15We say unto you by the Word of the Lord,that we which are alive and remain unto the COMING of the Lord shall not prevent (precede) them which are asleep.

    (Comment:Daniel prophesied:Dan.12:1

    - At that time(END of Time) shall Michael stand up to fight against the red Dragon,whose satanic religious body has 7 heads,10 horns and a TAIL- Revelation 12:9-12;

    - then there shall be a time of trouble (great tribulation), such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time( Matthew 24:21);

    - and at that time(current time)thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book ( Revelation 7:1-14).

    Furthermore,in this current time or now,even now,from now on,the Devil shall be cast down into the bottomless pit(Re.20:1-3).

    Daniel 12:2-THERE WILL BE RESURRECTION SIMULTANEOUSLY

    And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake(according to the prophecy of Isaiah 26:19-21.Take a look), some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

    Comment: So, there also shall be resurrection in fulfillment of prophecy of Isaiah combined with 1Thessalonians 4:16, as follow:

    16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout (shall descend from the 3rd heaven,we believers are still in the 2nd heaven-Ephesians1:3-8 combined with Philippians 3:20-21),with the voice of the archangel-MICHAEL- , and with the trump of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    1 Thes. 4:17 - Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds( Isaiah 60:8, and 1Corinthians 15:51 combined with Philippians 3:20-21 and Revelation 5:8-14), to meet the Lord in the air(in the 3rd heavenly environment-3rd heaven-far above of the current second heaven- Luke 20:35-36 combined with Matthew 25:6): and so shall we ever be with the Lord.(Where?- Revelation 11:15-18 and Re. 5:10, and Matthew 5:5, and John 17:24. Take a look).

    That's for your meditation
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    Who comes first, Michael or JESUS? It's very important, for in this current time, yes, even now, after around 2000 years or after two GOD's Days- Hebrews 1:1to4- so it is

    as the lightning that cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall the coming of the Son of man be. Get ready- Matthew 25:10-, knowing that only lamp- Psalm 119:105-is not suffice to enter in the kingdom of GOD - Matthew 7:21-27 and Malachi 4:11-14.

    Michael the archangel is one like unto the Son of man, the difference is that Michael is a warrior, JESUS the Savior, He is the stone which is become the head of the corner. There is no salvation in any other(except in JESUS Christ):for there is none other NAME under heaven given among men, whereby we MUST be saved.

    JESUS/JOSHUA warned: ... no man cometh unto the Father, but by me, so Adonai, Jehovah, YHWH, Yahweh, HaShem, Yehovah, Elohim, Yahusha , YEHshia, YEHvah, ten supposed and fictitious names, better, NICKNAMES of GOD, added in the Jewish Bible, and inadvertently copied into the Gentile Bible by the translators, they all are good for nothing.

    Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh. But who comes first that will cause to happen Great Tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. My Lord JESUS made it very clear, saying: Except those days (this current time) should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

    A false messiah is at door, he will manifest himself soon- Revelation 13:11-14 combined with John 5:43-47-AN IMPOSTOR- , he was born decadas ago, understand? It is he the God of the Jews- 2Thessalonians 2:3-4.

    My Lord JESUS warned: If any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; BELEIVE IT NOT.

    Be careful and get ready
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance:... Matthew 25:29
  • Oseas - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello Bennymkje

    Thanks for your kind reply

    Honestly, when I read these verses that you quoted I feel as I was caught up, because I see JESUS as if he were speaking to me in person, not as if I were merely reading biblical texts. JESUS really promised: Unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance... Matthew 25:29

    Amen

    GOD bless
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Part 2 on Tribulation and trials to come

    The Laodicean church is what many consider to typify the last stages or phase of church history. It is clear from that passage that only a few there are worthy; as we see in Revelation 3:4 with the church of Sardis as well. The general state is one of a pitiful state of spiritual poverty which the outer adornment; much like the Pharisees cleaning the outer parts of their vessels which appear to be showing opulence. Matthew 25:9 reminds me of those who need to pay the price for receiving the refreshing of the Holy Spirit as it will be with the fiery trial and mass martyrdom of the Tribulation. I see this as an example of those who have patiently waited for the Lord and now receive their reward because of enduring much as Lot did until the Lord rescued him from the disaster to come (see 2 Tim. 4:8). Those who are in a Laodicean church aren't putting themselves or anyone else into persecution as all those who are godly in Christ Jesus suffer ( 2 Tim. 3:12). Whether they are truly saved or not ultimately will be determined by God; I tend to see the Rapture as a reward issue but if I'm wrong then rewards will be lost for those backslidden ( Rev. 3:11); and it is certain many aren't truly saved now but many will wake up on the other side of the rapture; whether left behind people who professed Christ beforehand or new converts.

    As to the second part of my study on the Jews suffering Tribulation first; we can of course see that pattern in many Old Testament passages as well as the many wars in history; the most obvious recent one of worldwide significance being World War two. This current Hamas battle also started with an attack causing suffering to Jews. These verses would show the military campaigns that will occur prior to Armageddon as well when God finally defends His people ( Zech. 14:2) and then the nations are dealt with. The various judgments will be centered on Israel as well.
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    Matthew 25:5-8

    5 The bridegroom tarried, and they ALL slumbered and slept.

    6 And at MIDNIGHT (at the turn from the sixth to the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium) there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him.

    7 Then all those virgins arose, and trimmed their lamps.

    8 And the foolish said unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out. - Sad, very sad. -

    9 ... go ye rather to them that sell oil, and buy for yourselves. (Only lamp is not suffice for salvation. Wake up)

    10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with Him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

    Get ready, otherwise you will scream loud: Lord, Lord, open to us.

    Oh no, you won't have any more chances, the perdition is for ever and ever.


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