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Matthew 25:31-46,

I've had several close to death experiences. The 1st I recall clearly was about 5 or 6 yrs old. I was being held by gentle being, clothed in white & no pain, back to unbearable pain & suffering. I heard myself speak as an adult outside of the situation. That may have been the closest I've ever been to Heaven itself, the place. 2nd time I was electrically shocked while in water, I saw a black hand cover the sky, enormous, I could only see light through the bend of two fingers & only a portion, it was so huge. 3rd & 4th time I was young adult, it was all black around, I could feel darkness & closeness to judgement. I begged for another chance. 5th time I could hear & see the EMTs I had a different view. I was at peace not struggling, no pain. Then as they put the heart zapper thing on 3rd time I think it was. I felt difficult pain again, coldness, struggle. Luke 23:43, Luke 16:15-31, Luke 20:35-38, Psalms 91:11, Matthew 4:11, Matthew 13:39,41,49, Luke 4:10, 2Thessalonians 1:6-12, 1Timothy 3:16, Hebrews 1, Psalms 97:2, * Hebrews 2:14,15, Genesis 5:24, 2Kings 2, Matthew 17:1-5, if GOD has allowed Ezekiel, John & others in the Scriptures to see Heaven then I cannot argue they did or not. * Acts 7:55, Jeremiah 52, Revelation 7, Isaiah 6:1, Ezekiel 1, Ezekiel 10,

Matthew 24:3-51, Matthew 25:31-46, we will all give account so may our Words be faithful.

Matthew 25:31-46, John 12:25, Psalms 139, 1John 4:19, Ephesians 5:29,

Romans 14:12, Hebrews 9:27, Luke 12, Matthew 25:31-46, Revelation 1:7, Matthew 24, Matthew 26:64, Mark 13, Mark 14:62, 1Thessalonians 4:16-18, Revelation 10, read previous chapters. 7, 8 & 9, 2Thessalonians 2,

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My reply was to show Kay when she said "The modern rapture doctrine was never taught by the early church. Study John Nelson Darby and a Scotish girl named 'MacDonald' from whom this theory emerged" End quote.

You said, " Spencer What you've listed is not rapture, but resurrection by the books. Revelation 11:11-12.

End quote.

However these are rapture quotes by them. again, Here's fragments of the post.

Oregin

"since not even those who are alive can be taken up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air before the dead in Christ first rise."

Rufinus of Aquileia.

"to be caught up to meet God, suspended in the clouds and borne in the air."

I have been involved in several debated topics here on this site, mostly something to do with directly or indirectly to salvation.

I've read your views.

Our views are far off!!

As I said to Thomas I share with you.

1 John 5:11-13. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

When the Lord returns we all will have to give an account.

2 Corinthians 5:10.

I would love to receive one and hear this. Matthew 25:21.

I don't think I'll hear that spending all my time chasing down anymore that believes in the rapture.

But I would urge anyone to get their household ready and be watchful.

We have to be careful on how and when to engage because some find and treat the bible as 'Just" fascinating, or "Just" Interesting and treat the books as a great conversation piece.

There's no virtue in this.

I add, I have no Interest in turning this site into a battle ground over less important issues.

Are you Interested in discussing soteriology?

2Peter 1:10,

Hopefully these are helpful

Matthew 25:31-46, 2Timothy 1:7, 2Timothy 2, Titus 1, James 1, James 2,

Giannis, to understand the parable, you first have to understand the second coming.

The second coming and the second resurrection are two entirely different things.

The second coming is liked unto the time of Noah. Everyday life going on around men, and men are not aware that that the door (Christ, the ark), will be shut at any moment by ones physical death.

The second coming is Christ, coming as a thief in the night, and he is not seen, but:

Hebrews 9:28 ..to those who look for him he shall appear THE SECOND TIME (as the Holy Ghost, Truth and Life) without sin unto salvation.

This has been happening now for two thousand years.

Matthew 25:1 Then (after Pentecost) shall the kingdom of heaven (Christ in you, the Holy Spirit in you, life and truth in you) be likened unto ten virgins (potential BRIDES OF CHRIST), which took their lamps (vessels, that hold oil, and give light, our bodies are the vessel, the oil is the Holy Spirit, and the light is Christ), and went forth to meet the Bridegroom (their potential husband).

Matthew 25: And five were wise, and five were foolish.

Matthew 25:3 They that were foolish took their lamps (their vessel of light or their body, and took no oil (the anointing of the SPIRIT) with(in) them (that burns as the light).

Matthew 25:4 But the wise took oil (the anointing of the SPIRIT) in their vessels (their bodies) with their LIGHT (their CHRIST).

Matthew 25:6 And while the bridegroom tarried (remained out of sight from the physical eyes), they all slumbered and slept.

Matthew 26:7 And at midnight there was a cry made (the last trump, the end of time for this body of flesh), Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go you out to meet him (those born of the Spirit returned to the Spirit, and those with no oil went to the grave to await the second resurrection).

This does't happen to the virgins collectively, but in each one's appointed hour.

GBU

Dear brothers and sisters.

In the parable of the ten virgins Matthew 25:1-13 what do you think the oil and the lamp and the light stand for in Christian life? And being a virgin represents what?

And what we should do to ensure our entrance to the marriage and not left out?

Its obvious the parable talks about the spiritual situation Christians will be during the second coming of Jesus Christ.

God bless you all.

Hi Kay.

Thanks for your reply.

I've never heard a pre-trib view taught that there is 3 comings of Christ, I always understood that there is the 1st coming and the second coming to Earth.

The rapture is called the "harpazo" in the Greek. meaning "to snatch away" or "to seize," The Lord don't come to the earth, We go to him!

1 Thessalonians 4:17. Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the LORD IN THE AIR: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

His second coming he comes to the Earth with judgment.

In these 2nd coming verses there's no mention of the removal of saints.

Here's just a few of many.

Zechariah 14:4.

Revelation 19:11-16,

Revelation 20:1-6.

Matthew 25:31-32.

The 2nd coming he comes with his saints.

If he raptured in his 2nd coming when he comes and make war against the nations who's going to populate the Millennium?

Here's parallel verses to

Mathew 24:31.

Isaiah 11:12.

Jeremiah 23:7-8.

Jeremiah 16:14-15.

Ezekiel 34:12-13.

Isaiah 45:4.

Goodnight Kay and God bless.

I think 1st: it's helpful to be ready personally for our personal "time" of accountability. Romans 14:12, Matthew 25:31-46,

When people push end-times fear it blinds the perspective of our personal lives & robs joy, & time. This is the day the LORD has made, let us rejoice & be glad in it. Philippians 4:4, Psalms 118:24,

Matthew 24:36, no man know the day nor hour, not even the angels in heaven. Jesus gave us much to understand closer to that time. Matthew 24, Mark 13, 2Thessalonians 2, if you notice a common command in these "be not soon shaken, in mind, or be troubled...."

Hopefully helpful

Hi Thomas.

May I ask, What's the purpose?

Does it save lives?

I agree correct answers in this area is good and knowledgeable,

But you didn't pose a question, just a challenge.

Here's what's important.

1 John 5:11-13. And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

When the Lord returns we all will have to give an account.

2 Corinthians 5:10.

I would love to receive one and here this. Matthew 25:21.

I don't think I'll hear that spending all my time chasing down anymore that believes in the rapture.

But I would urge anyone to get their household ready and be watchful.

We have to be careful on how and when to engage because some find and treat the bible as 'Just" fascinating, or "Just" Interesting and treat the books as a great conversation piece.

There's no virtue in this.

Matthew 25: 31-46

What Jesus taught that we should be doing every day, in one form or another.

To ignore this teaching, is to be unwise. Every person can do something: pray for it, fund it through a ministry that does it; or you do it.

This is what the Lords Sheep do.

only goats will jump up and proclaim, I'm not having anything to do with this !!

Why do we do it? Because Jesus himself demonstrated it, some way, every day of his ministry on earth. Before he left, he taught that we were to be merciful and kind in His Place. He will repay.

Someday, at the Bema Seat Judgement of Christ Jesus; rewards will be handed out; CROWNS.

At the end of the Ceremony we will place our crowns at Jesus's feet.

Let me tell a real story. One night I was in a left turn lane , headed home. It was quite long. I saw a homeless man dressed in rags, hobbling along with sore feet. His shoes were falling apart. His face etched with pain, every step. We turned left, turned around to find the man and buy him new shoes and clothes. We searched but couldn't find him! Anguish filled my heart.

Some months later I was at the doctors office-and for some reason I told him about that man. His expression was incredulous. He had seen the man too! He was in the right turn lane and followed to where he could offer him a ride. HE TOOK THE MAN to a store and bought him clothes, a coat, and good shoes. Got him into a shelter. Shortly after he did free surgery on the man's feet. He had befriended the man afterwards.

What a blessing to hear!!! I cried and praised God all the way home. When God speaks, if we will just listen and respond; we can be part of a blessing. God will repay you. There are feeding and clothing ministries somewhere near you. Help those who need so much and in the spirit of love and mercy_not judgment or loathing. Have you ever put a bag of canned meat and veggies on an elderly persons doorstep? Start a food pantry at your church? shoes+socks?

Yes,

Matthew 25:31-46, 2Thessalonians 1,

Matthew 18:8, John 3:36, Jude 1:6, Revelation 20,

Please read :

John 3:15-17, Matthew 19:29, John 5:24, John 6:27,47, Romans 6:22,

Hopefully these are helpful

But that trust takes action Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7:20-27, James 2, Revelation 2:19-29, Hebrews 10:23-31, John 13:34, 1John 4:20, Matthew 5:43-48,

Yes, it all has to start with trust in Jesus CHRIST & His name for Salvation! If someone truly trusts in Jesus they will love others

Romans 6, Hebrews 9, Hebrews 7:11-28, Hebrews 10, Matthew 18:11, John 17, Matthew 25:31-46,

I believe the differences comes from these scriptures : Matthew 5:16, Matthew 7:21-29, Revelation 2:23, Revelation 20:13, Matthew 25:31-46,

Even Jesus did works: Matthew 11:2, Luke 19:37, & said greater works we shall do. John 14:20,

Matthew 16:27,

Matthew 23:3,5,23, hypocrisy not ok, you can read whole chapter & those chapters around it for context. John 8:39,

Romans 3:27-28, helps clarify, 'law of faith' Romans 4, Romans 9:30-33,

What is argued is: Romans 11:6, but in context it's the grace extended to Gentiles Romans 11:16-27, also read whole chapter Romans 11,

& Galatians 2:16, "knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.'' the works of the law are in Gen. Exodus, Deuteronomy, Leviticus. Galatians 3,

& Galatians 2:8,9, but we can't ignore Galatians 2:10,

& 2Timothy 1:9 , Titus 3, Hebrews 4, Hebrews 4:11,

However again we can't ignore 2Timothy 3:16-17, Titus 1:15,16, Titus 2, Hebrews 10:24, James 3:13, 1Peter 2:12, Revelation 2:26,

* James 2,

1Corinthians 4, understanding 1st pray & read: James 1:5,

1Corinthians 4:1 "Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of CHRIST, and the stewards of the mysteries of GOD." references: Mark 4:11, in context Mark 4:1-34, Romans 11:25, Romans 16:25-27, Ephesians 3, Revelation 10:7, some Old Testament references: Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, Zechariah 13:6, Leviticus 16:17, John 19,



Romans 14:12 : reference for several

1Corinthians 4:2, references: Titus 1:7,

1Corinthians 4:3-4, ref: Romans 8:33, Isaiah 50:8, Jude 1:24-25, Romans 14:13, Psalms 98:9,

1Corinthians 4:5, ref: Matthew 25:31-46, Hebrews 10:30, 2Thessalonians 2,

1Corinthians 4:6,7,8, ref: 1Corinthians 12, Deuteronomy 8:18, Psalms 75:6-7, John 19:11,

1Corinthians 4:9-14, Hebrews 11,

Hopefully these are helpful

If we are truly born again with the indwelling Holy Spirit; we are sheep.

We need to ponder upon what Jesus taught in Matthew 25:31-46 in reference to the future Bema Seat Judgment by Jesus.

1 Corinthians 3:12 we've built upon Jesus's foundation with (wood, hay, stubble, gold, silver, precious stones)

they will pass through the fire.

These are passages to show us that Christian Life is more than sitting in a pew at church.

When I was saved, I was not looking for Jesus to show up at my house in a vision so real, it shook me to my core. Later in the evening I got a peek at hell. It was surely a "Today is THE day of Salvation." I was saved, delivered, and filled with the Holy Spirit__and then I fell asleep in the floor. Next day was super!! I woke up to a brand new life. Every day since has been wonderful.

If I've learned anything, it's this: Jesus is Lord of all. Second in the Godhead. Jesus sits on the throne of my heart. He gave me the Holy Spirit. He is precious to me. Jesus gave Him to me to keep my life straight. Jesus joins me to the Father. My Abba.

I'm full, filled, with Love. That's how it should be every day, for everybody. If you accept Jesus knocking on the door of your heart, open that door. Don't close the door on them.

People can drag us down. Mock us, betray and shun us. They don't know another way to live. They close their eyes so they can't see the LIGHT. Sometimes it's lonely. It feels like no one wants to be saved.

Find just one person to listen to your testimony of how you came to believe in Jesus. There are hundreds of testimonies on this website. Let's hold on to each other. We're stronger.

Hang on tight to Jesus. He is alive. He's strong for us. Don't let the world cheat you and steal your joy. Be humble and Kind. We love on Jesus by doing what He asks in Matthew 25. It's not scary. One foot in front of another.

A steady diet of news on tv will paralyze us. This world will pass away.

Isaiah 58, Isaiah 58:3, Isaiah 58:6,7,9,10, Isaiah 10:1-3, Isaiah 1:17-18,23-26, Matthew 23, Matthew 23:14,

Exodus 20:10, Leviticus 25:6, Deuteronomy 5:14, Amos 8:4-7,

Matthew 25:31-46, James 1:27, Jeremiah 5:28-29, Jeremiah 7:5-7, Jeremiah 22:3, Malachi 3:5,

Deuteronomy 14:28-29, Deuteronomy 16:10-14, Deuteronomy 24:17-21, Deuteronomy 26:10-19, Leviticus 23,

Isaiah 56, Matthew 12,

Hopefully these are helpful in your seeking of GOD's will & your walk

Hi Johnny. Just to add to Rod's great list, & the chapter in the middle of his Matthew references; I would refer you to Jesus' parable about the Kingdom of Heaven in Matthew 25:1-13. That His Kingdom compose those who are ready & eagerly awaiting their Lord's return. They knew the 'bridegroom' was coming, some were ready, others were not.

Today, there are some 'Christians' who don't take their faith seriously & may even have one foot in the world, hoping that there will still be time ahead to set things right before the Lord. But no one can know the day of their death or the day of the Lord's Return; readiness & holy living are hallmarks of the child most beloved of the Lord. And when Jesus comes for us, "we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming" ( 1 John 2:28).

Psalms 24:1, Luke 17:21,

Psalms 82:6, 1Corinthians 8:5, John 10:34,35, Luke 17:1-10, Matthew 18:4-20,

Matthew 25:31-46,

Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7, James 3, Job 6:24, Psalms 12:3-8, Psalms 15, Psalms 57, Proverbs 6:16-19, Proverbs 12:18, Isaiah 54:17, 1Peter 3:10, 1Corinthians 6:19,20, but also in context helpful hopefully to your other questions 1Corinthians 6:9-20,

Hopefully these scriptures encourage you & are helpful

Roots of many addictions are pain, if it's you or someone you dearly love:

Adam gave sound advice.

GOD can deliver from every addiction but 1st that person has to want deliverance. There are some cases I've heard testimony that GOD delivered instantly, others take persistence, prayer, fasting & steps of good decisions, each day.

Hey Benjamin,

I agree with S Spencer and Noel, for those of us who have heard of Jesus and are called and have accepted Jesus as our savior the answer would be no.

I would like to give my understanding; God is a loving God Zephaniah 3:17 God will help and strengthen us Isaiah 41:10 God is just and upright Deuteronomy 32:4 and God is love and merciful Ephesians 2:4.

There are millions of people who lived and died before Jesus first came, and millions who have lived and died since who have never heard who Jesus is and what He offers. What happens to them? Everyone who is alive today and all who have lived in the past has the knowledge of good and evil thanks to the first Adam.

The white throne judgment many teach is only for the lost and unrighteous, my understanding is different. In Revelation 20:11-15 all the rest of the dead is judged, small and great and the books were open, and they were judged from the things written in the books, according to their works. In verse 15 it says this, "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire". Along with other scriptures, my understanding is there were some names in the book of life.

God only knows, some scripture gives a clue, People under the law being judged by the law and those who do by nature the things contained in the law not under the law (judged from the things written in the books) Romans 2:12-15, and if the white throne judgment is for lost only, how do we understand these verses, Daniel 12:2 Matthew 25:32-46 John 5:28-29 Acts 24:14-15.

God bless,

RLW

John 17, Jeremiah 1:4-5, Psalms 139,

Mark 4, Matthew 22, Matthew 25:31-46, Mark 14:21, John 17,

Hopefully these help you in your understanding

Yes, Matthew 2:2, Luke 23:51, John 4:22, John 8:31, John 11:45, Acts 14:1, Acts 17:1-4, Acts 21:20, Acts 22:12, Paul himself was,is Acts 26:4, Revelation 7:5,

John 3:15-21, Matthew 25:31-46,

1Corinthians 12:12, 1Corinthians 12, whole chapter. John 10:16, John 13:34-35, John 17, 1Corinthians 3:16, 1Corinthians 6:19, 2Corinthians 6:16,

Matthew 25:40 in context Matthew 25:31-46, Ephesians 2:20-22,

What the Church is not/ should not be = Matthew 23,

Hopefully these are helpful

Hi Donna.

Thanks to Brother Chris I did some more research on why Jesus referred himself as the son of man in certain instances.

Part 1.

Jesus' favorite designation, in referring to Himself, was the "Son of Man." The Gospels record some seventy-eight times that Jesus used this title for Himself. For example, when He asked His disciples the question about His identity, He said,

Who do men say that I, the Son of Man, am? ( Matthew 16:13).

Though the Bible does not define its exact meaning, the title "Son of Man" probably refers to the fact that Jesus was perfect humanity. He, as God, came down and lived among us as the perfect human being. By doing this, He fulfilled the Law of Moses and did what no other human being was able to do. By using this title, He is identifying with the people He had come to save.

It Is Connected With His Earthly Life

The title is connected with the earthly life of Jesus.

But so that you may know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins - he said to the paralytic ( Mark 2:10).

Jesus said

So the Son of Man is Lord even of the Sabbath ( Mark 2:28).

Jesus also said.

And Jesus said to him, "Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has nowhere to lay his head ( Matthew 8:20)

Jesus gave the reason for His coming to earth.

For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost ( Luke 19:10).

It Is Connected With His Sufferings

"Son of Man" is also connected with the sufferings of Jesus on behalf of humanity.

And he began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things, and be rejected by the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise again ( Mark 8:31).

This Speaks Of His Exaltation And Rule

The title "Son of Man" also has to do with his exaltation and rule over humanity.

When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then he will sit on the throne of his glory ( Matthew 25:31).

Not sure who had answered & given scripture, but hopefully I can help.

Matthew 8,

Matthew 8:4, 1st "Jesus saith unto him, See thou tell no man;" why._._ Mark 5:24, Mark 3:7-10, John 6:15, John 7:3-8, John 6:2,26, John 12:37,

2nd part of Matthew 8:4, gift to the priests Moses commanded, Leviticus 13,

3rd part of Matthew 8:4 for a testimony to them, prophecy fulfilling, Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, Job 14:7, Isaiah 11:1, Zechariah 3:8-9, Jeremiah 33:15, John 15:4,

Matthew 8:11-12 = Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 2:2, Matthew 27:11, Romans 1:6,

Matthew 8:17, Isaiah 53,

Matthew 8:22, Luke 20:38,

Matthew 8:24-27, Luke 8:22-25,

Matthew 8:28-34, Mark 5:1-20, Luke 8:27-39,

Hopefully these are helpful

Please read Revelation 9, 10, Daniel 7, Matthew 24:3-51, Mark 13:5-37, Matthew 25:31-46, 2Timothy 2:3, 1 Thessalonians 4, 2Thessalonians 2

1Thessalonians 4:17,

Please read: Daniel 7, Zephaniah 1:15, Zephaniah 1,

* Matthew 24:29-30, "After the tribulation" Matthew 24:3-51, Matthew 24:21,22, Matthew 26:64, Mark 13:5-37, * note Mark 13:23-27, Mark 13:19 first, Mark 14:62, Revelation 1:5-8, these all seem to be the same event; 1Corinthians 15:52, context: 1Corinthians 15:20-58, Revelation 9, has the six prior trumpet blasts then Revelation 10, also lining up with prior noted scripture of the last trumpet: Revelation 10:7, & Revelation 10:6, Revelation 10:1, Matthew 25:31-46, seems to be the end, beginning of judgement. Psalms 9:7,

2Timothy 4:3,

2Timothy 2:3, Matthew 24:13, Mark 13:13,

Hope this is helpful