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Deuteronomy 24:14, Isaiah 58, Matthew 25:31-46, Psalms 62:10, Exodus 3:9, Exodus 26:7, Jeremiah 7:6-7, Jeremiah 30:20, Psalms 10:18, Psalms 12:5

Hi Alex N. In your response to conditional promises, you wrote about the kingdom of God, as though all Christians already have this in them, I should clarify this statement therefore to you, the first dispensation of the kingdom of heaven is inwardly, it lasts for 2,000 years, from the time the Lord Jesus died until he returns, according to the Lord Jesus in Luke 17:20-21 all Christians have the kingdom of God in their heart, this is also taught in John 3:5, all Christians enter the kingdom of God when they are born again, The Apostle Paul affirms this truth in Colossians 1:13, however, this is not what I was speaking about in conditional promises, I spoke about the millennial kingdom of God, which has not happened yet, no Christian has entered this yet, all scriptures place conditions upon entering that kingdom of God. I will say this, we made it into the first dispensation of the kingdom by faith without works, but to make it into the millennial kingdom, it is by faith with works. Please read Matthew 7:21 only if a Christian does the will of God can he make it in, this is a condition attached to making it in the kingdom. Read Matthew 25:14-30 unless you used your talents you cannot make it into the joy of the Lord, being the millennial kingdom, again a conditional promise to get it, or read Acts 14:22 as we must suffer much tribulation in order to make it into the kingdom, another conditional attached to making it into the millennial kingdom of heaven. Again read the warnings of why Christians will not make it into that millennial kingdom in 1 Cor. 6:9-10 & Galatians 5:19-21 & Ephesians 5:3-5 as a result of living a godless lifestyle, you lose your inheritance of entering into the millennial kingdom of God, in order to rule and reign for a thousand years. As concerning your topic of the man child teaching us all things, that prophecy is for the coming of Elijah in Malachi 4:5-6 it is not the ministry of the man child. I hope this explains conditional promises.

Here are several scriptures I found about death & after death : James 2:26, Ecclesiasticus 38:23, Ecclesiasticus 22:11, 2 Maccabees 7:36, 2 Maccabees 12:44, Ecclesiasticus 10:11, Ecclesiasticus 17:28, Baruch, 2:17, Psalms 88:10, Psalms 115:11, Ecclesiastes 9:5,

after death,: Matthew 17:1-3, Luke 7:12-16, Luke 8:49-56, John 11:21-45, Matthew 27:50-54, Luke 16:22-31, John 21:14, Acts 3:15, Acts 4:10, Mark 12:25,26,27, Luke 24:46, John 5:12, John 5:25, 1 Peter 1:3, 1 Peter 2:24, 1 Peter 4:5, Revelation 1:5, Revelation 1:18, Revelation 14:9-20, 1 Corinthians 15:20,21, 2 Timothy 4:1, 1 Thessalonians 4:16, 1 Thessalonians 1:10, Matthew 25:31-46, Romans 14:9, Matthew 22:32, Isaiah 26:19,

Hebrews 11:35, Revelation 20, 2 Esdras 2:16, Hebrews 6:2, Hebrews 9:14, Hebrews 11:4, Hebrews 13:20, Revelation 11:18,

Hopefully these are helpful.

John 6:39-40, Matthew 25:31-46, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18, Revelations 1:7, hopefully these are helpful.

Hello John,

I myself have had many beautiful discussions with Mormons & Jehovah Witnesses. I'm sorry if I mix up the teachings. 1st I want to say many of both, are very kind, I liked just about everyone I encountered. With few exceptions. However, many scriptural discussions seemed to point to teaching that was not in-line with JKV HOLY Bible.

1st important 1= Galatians 1:3-10, 2 Corinthians 11:3-4, teach don't believe another gospel even if an Angel brings, Mormons have a "new" teaching brought from "An Angel".

2nd Book of Mormon, addition to Bible? Psalms 89:34, Rev. 22:18, Deuteronomy 12:32,

3rd Mormons teach that Women can't be prophets untrue : Judges 4:4, Luke 2:36, Joel 2:28.

4th & maybe most important Mormons don't believe CHRIST Jesus is who HE says HE is. : Isaiah 53, Psalms 22, John 19, John 1,

Why do you ask?

Baptist are supposed to believe in Scripture.

I myself like to stick to the WORD of GOD. Those two are not your only choices. The choices really come down to the WORD itself here's some : John 3:15-16, Matthew 25:31-46, James 1:26-27, John 14:16,

Hopefully this is helpful.

To Jim. The thread is huge and this is a short reply.

1. The word TRINITY is not in the King James Bible.

2. I do not debate on this issue. I know Trinity appears in other Bible versions too.

3. I'm not going to change my mind.

4. I'm against issues__that "divide" people in this comment forum. May we be in agreement and United through the Holy Spirit.

Rather than trying to convert others, it's better that God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit to be Praised and Worshipped.

Anything that divides us, is subject to scrutiny, because of Matthew 25:33

Sheep are followers, and goats say "bah" or BUT.

I just choose to be at peace and let the Lord sort this out.

May The Lord tell us what is Truth.

Mishael

Hello Connie,

My interpretation of "Faith without works is dead" is what's written in scripture: James 2:1-4, James 2:5, please read all of James 2, for perspective & context. It says that faith without works is dead 3 times. Then gives examples what that is : * James 2:13-17,

James 2:19-20,

Notice: Isaiah 58, please read whole chapter. * Isaiah 58:6-7, James 1:23-27,

Isaiah 58:10-12, Matthew 25:31-46, 1 Timothy 6:17-19, again read, 1Timothy 6, whole chapter. 1 Corinthians 13,

I hope these scriptures help give you understanding to what GOD means by "Faith without out works is dead."

This is my name.

It's alright if you don't wish to respond to me, which ever the reasons may be. Please read: John 19:28, 1 Peter 1:20,

John 19:36, prophetic fulfilled by Isaiah the same Prophet that declares GOD's recompense, vengeance, punishment. Romans 11:2,

Luke 4:18,19, Isaiah 53, Luke 4:23-27, Galatians 3:8, Acts 8:32, Mark 15:28, Psalms 22, John 19,

John 19:37, John 20:9, 2 Timothy 3:16, Mark 12:10, John 13:18, John 7:42, John 17:12,

Luke 8:28

Jude 1,

Matthew 25:31-46,

Mishael,

If I'm understanding you right you're wanting us to pray for Earthquakes in California? Because unrighteousness within Newsomes' policies & appointed directors? No. Amos 5:18-20, Jude 1,

Please let's instead pray for Justice within our elections especially California! Justice within the Courts. Orange Co. has years backlogs on Felony cases= no arrests. Pray, Justice within the streets. Protection for our Brothers & Sisters in CHRIST all over California!!!! Protection for their families, their fellowships, places of gathering!! Protection for fellow believers against lawlessness, racial hate crimes especially towards "white 'blanco' ", black & Asian people only because of their Citizenship status, color of hair, eyes, & skin. LORD please help us! Pray for the many Pastors like Greg Laurie, thousands of true outreach ministries all over California. Pray for the over 200,000 US citizens homeless & literally dying on the streets because of bad policies, neglect, injustice & wrongful allocation of housing. Matthew 25:31-46, Pray for Justice within the IRS, & Ca. Tax "authority" that wrongfully go after Christian believers & completely ignore billions or trillions of $ income, businessess, smuggling trades, & working "undocumented" unfairly & biased.

California is like no other, it is a place of love, grace, mercy, acceptance, refuge. What has caused such enormous problems: it's loving open arms of grace, the enemy & evil doers have taken advantage & turned it into lawlessness. Jude 1:4,

Hopefully this is helpful to you're understanding. Pray GOD see & help

Deliver California O' GOD ALMIGHTY from the oppressors, help YOUR children, please O' LORD, in JESUS name we pray. Protect YOUR people like YOU've done so many times for me before. Thank YOU LORD

Jocelynne Bell,

Only the Father knows the day Jesus will return, Mark 13:32, we are told to watch Matthew 25:13. How do we know Jesus died in the first place, we look back, God said 100s of years before it would happen. Isaiah 7:14 Scripture points to how he will be born, and also to one of the names given to Christ: Immanuel, Matthew 1:23. Micah 5:2 This scripture tells where He will be born and from what tribe, which was Judah, Matthew 2:5 Luke 2:4.

Psalm 22:7-8 This scripture tells how they will ridicule Him, Matthew 27:40-43. Psalm 22:16-18 the same refers to the actual crucifixion of Christ, Matthew 27:35,39,41,49. Isaiah 53:5 tells they will pierce Him for our transgressions, and by his wounds, we are healed, John 19:34.

I could list more scripture that was written 100s of years before that is clear that it was Jesus our savior that was told of before and what would happen to Him, and we can be sure He will return the same way as He ascended Acts 1:10-11 Revelation 1:7

God bless and have faith; If prophecy told it would happen 100s of years before and it happened have no doubt it is true. He is coming back and will set the kingdom upon the earth.

RLW

Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 7:21,

What I've found with most people who seemingly reject the "church" have suffered greatly

1 Corinthians 4:5, Psalms 98:9,

Hopefully this is helpful

Matthew 25:31-46, James 2:1-26, Philippians 2:1-15,

Hopefully these are also helpful in your search for truth.

Grace,

If I may ask a few questions just on part one? Forgive me if I misunderstand the post. What scripture says the rest of the dead are unjust? You listed Daniel 12:2 and we also have John 5:28-29, Matthew 25:31-46, Acts 24:15, do we just overlook these? In the white throne judgement are not the books opened. "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire". Revelation 20:11-15. In this judgement of all nations there will be those that are told well done my faithful servant and those unworthy their reward, the lake of fire. This is my understanding.

God bless,

RLW

Hopefully these are helpful to you in the context of "works for the LORD"

James 2:14-26, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 5:14-16, Matthew 16:27,

Jesus's examples of miraculous "works" & compassion Matthew 11, Matthew 13,

Not:

Exodus 23:24, Matthew 7:20-23, Matthew 23,

Matthew 25:31-46,

Hebrews 9:27-28,

Jude 1:1-25,

1 John 1:8-10

John 3:15-16,

Hopefully these are helpful. There are many more scriptures on this subject. If you would like more, let me know. Just reply back.

I'd like to add to what Chris stated. I am not Catholic nor Roman Catholic, however I took communion with my aunt & former boss (a high ranking political figure). After several times in attending & participating in two different states, whenever I had to accompany my former boss on Sundays, or visiting my Aunt Holidays or Sundays, maybe multiple years. All of a sudden, I was no longer allowed to participate, in either state because I "wasn't Catholic" that seems very wrong on multiple levels. Here's additional scripture:

1st: we're told to exam ourselves, before Communion, not other's to allow or disallow. 1 Corinthians 11:28-31, Roman 14:1-4,

2nd: we are told to confess our sins to one another: James 5:16-17,

3rd: John 6:37,

4th: Matthew 23:9-10,

5th: 1 Timothy 4:1-6, "doctrines of devils" forbidding marriage?

However the Catholic church is well-known for hospitals, ministry to needy 1 John 1:25-27, Matthew 25:31-46,

& we're called to love one another: John 13:35,

Hopefully these are also helpful.

Delores - That makes some feel good but it won't stand in judgement.

Revelation 3:11 Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

Matthew 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.

John 15:2 Every branch (in me) that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

John 15:6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.

Matthew 25:14-30 And cast ye the (unprofitable servant) into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.



Revelation 2:10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou (faithful unto death), and I will give thee a crown of life.

Please read these scriptures: John 7:1-53, Mark 2:1-28,

This discussion came up Holidays 2019, there was hatred towards not wearing masks in donut shop Southern California 80-90 degrees near beach. Teenager asked "wouldn't Jesus just be nice" then it hit me with fire inside my spirit. I replied "Jesus would be the first to bring alarm!" "If they were going to arrest people for getting too close, touching the sick, HE'd probably be first" I could envision HIM hugging & healing people & upsetting the "norm" as "enforcers" would say "HE isn't allowed to do that."

Luke 13:1-17, Luke 13:20-35, * Mark 3:1-6,9,10, *

Hypocrisy of crowds, sporting events, parades, but Jesus crowds? Mark 2:2, hypocrisy= John 19:31, Luke 4:14-44,

not wearing masks, HE'd probably be taking them off, elderly & children 1st. Would the creator of man, mankind, want them breathing carbondioxide, weaking their lungs, hiding HIS glory? 2 Corinthians, 1 John 1:1, seeking to save themselves? Luke 17:33, Matthew 16:35, Luke 8:35, John 12:25, Matthew 6:25

Luke 6:1-19,

John 9:1-7 can you imagine? criminal charges today?

+ HE actually gave commands to heal the sick, Matthew 10:8, Luke 10:9, Acts 4:28-30,

"The saddest thing about all the hate, meaness, is when this is over, people will remember how badly they were treated" "let's try to remember that & be kind"

Matthew 25:39

It's almost 2022. Those mandates have caused division, job loss, depression etc., yet what proof of any good?

To further answer your question: I have been in much prayer about it & I do not take lightly any scripture. I believe in USA we are a "Nation under GOD" being The People we are the ones with the Governing authority as per The Declaration of Independence, The US Constitution & all States Constitutions. The people putting forth "Mandates" know they have not authority to call them "laws" they are therefore those that "resist the power & Ordinances of GOD" & the Higher power is GOD.

Hopefully these are helpful.

Christina Young

Yes, everyone that is saved is a member of Christ, and they have a choice to receive the first spiritual gift, that is to be filled with the Holy Ghost. but it is up to them to choose to use the first gift are not. The first gift that the Father gives is the gift of the Holy Ghost. If you let it operate in your life freely than other gifts will be added unto you. Do you recall the parable in Matthew 25: 14-30 the lord gave out talents to his servants, these talents Jesus was talking about in the parable are the gifts of the spirit. There are ten gifts the first is the Holy Ghost than nine more gifts follow. If you use the first gift freely which is the Holy Ghost than Jesus will store unto you another gift. The answer to your second question is yes you can have all of the gifts of the spirit if you allow them to work freely in your life.

God Bless

stay prayed up and ready to go up

cowboy

1 Thessalonians 4:17 "caught up"

Part I

PRE-TOJT Great GRACE Departure

A) God's TWO Different programs, Rightly Divided

B) Distinctions Between GREAT GRACE Departure and Second Coming

LORD JESUS, we beseech Thee Now For Thy Divine Understanding In This Thy Most Important Doctrine For our COMFORT And Consolation. Amen. 1 Thessalonians 4:18

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A) God's TWO Different programs, Rightly Divided

Time Of JACOB's (Israel's) Trouble (TOJT), Ending With The Second Coming, is found in

God's Prophetic Program, Under LAW, gospel of the kingdom "ages" past/future Genesis-John Hebrews-Revelation

God's "Earthly Kingdom" Purpose From "the foundation of the world" Matthew 25:34

God's Purpose Prophesied "since the world began" Luke 1:68-70 Acts 3:21

Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15 From Things That DIFFER

Great GRACE Departure!

Pre-TOJT Resurrection/Departure of The Body Of CHRIST, Ending God's Age Of GRACE, Is Found In

God's Revelation Of The Mystery, Under The Gospel Of The GRACE Of God, Which Is Current for us, Today, Under GRACE = "But NOW!" Romans through Philemon, Especially Romans 3:21 Ephesians 2:13

"Whereof I am made a minister, According To The (GRACE) Dispensation Of God Which Is Given To me for you, to Fulfil The Word of God; Even The Mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, BUT NOW Is Made Manifest to his saints" Colossians 1:25-26

God's "Heavenly Hidden" Purpose Before "the foundation of the world" Ephesians 1:4 2 Timothy 1:9

God's Heavenly Purpose Kept Secret "since the world began" Romans 16:25 Ephesians 1:4-8 Ephesians 1:8-11 Ephesians 3:5-9

to be continued in Part II God's Great GRACE Departure

Part II God's Great GRACE Departure

B) Distinctions Between GREAT GRACE Departure and Second Coming

The Second Coming, According to Prophecy

1) Immediately After tribulation/4 signs, CHRIST, In His Prophesied Second Advent, As KING Of kings, And LORD Of lords, Is Coming From Heaven! Matthew 24:29 Revelation 19:11,16

2) CHRIST Is Coming On a white horse, With Crowns On His Head, And A Sword In His Mouth! Revelation 19:12-15

3) CHRIST Is Coming With, (which Were In Heaven!), His armies on white horses! Revelation 19:12-15

(4) CHRIST Is Coming To earth With ONE army, * "All Of His holy angels,"

In Order To Judge/Make war/Smite And Rule the nations

Matthew 25:31 Revelation 19:11,15

(5) With Another trumpet (AFTER "the 7th angel trumpet in heaven), on

the earth, Angels Are SENT, By The KING, TO: "gather the elect"...

Matthew 24:31 Mark 13:27

6) ...for the "judgment of the Earthly Nations" By The Son of man, The King! Matthew 25:31-36 Matthew 25:36-41 Matthew 25:41-46

7) Those Judged as righteous then enter the kingdom! And the UNrighteous then Depart into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels! Matthew 25:34-38 Matthew 25:38-41

Matthew 25:41-46

Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15 From Things That DIFFER

The Great GRACE Departure, According to The Heavenly Mystery!

to be continued in Part III God's Great GRACE Departure

Isaiah 58

GOD hates hypocrisy & fake religious acts, Isaiah 58:2-3, Isaiah 58:4,

GOD loves people, has compassion for widows, orphans, fatherless children, poor, Isaiah 58:6-7,

GOD gives chances for repentance Isaiah 58:1, Isaiah 58:5

GOD ALMIGHTY wants to bless us. Isaiah 58:8

Additional scriptures: Matthew 25:31-46, Psalms 139, Luke 13:34,

Hopefully these are helpful.

Matthew 25:31-46

Hello Brother Earl, & all in discussion,

I hope you're not feeling attacked, "faithful are the wounds of a friend." Proverbs 27:5-6, I believe we are all still learning, just because we believed something to be true or false previously doesn't mean we always will. The HOLY Spirit is still teaching all of us. The scriptures that are stirring in me the most while reading your discussion are Matthew 7:13-23, Matthew 25:29-30, Matthew 25:31-46, I pray GOD will give us wisdom in these matters. Philippians 2:12-16, Hebrews 10:23-39,

I felt led to add. Years ago, I actually tried to observe the Sabbath as a Christian who never had beforehand. I learned much

1. to observe a Sabbath: you really have to plan

2 someone has to prepare beforehand

3. Shop for things beforehand

4. It opened my understanding of the scripture & GOD's compassion

Here are multiple scriptures on the Sabbath :

Genesis 2:2,3 (set Sabbath apart), Exodus 16:19-30 (significant differece on Sabbath) , * Exodus 23:11, Exodus 20:11 (blessed & set apart), * Exodus 23:12, Exodus 31:15, Exodus 34:21, Exodus 35:2, Leviticus 16:29-34 (atonement), Leviticus 23:1-10, (seventh day & Passover), * Leviticus 23:21-22, Leviticus 23:27-29 (atonement), Leviticus 23:28-32, * Deuteronomy 5:14, 2 Chronicles 2:4 (forever to Israel), * Isaiah 1:11-18, * Isaiah 56:1-8, * Isaiah 58:6-14,

Jesus observed Matthew 12:8, Mark 1:21, Mark 6:2, Mark 15:42, Luke 4:16,

Jesus set examples on Sabbath * Matthew 12, * Mark 2, * Mark 3, * Luke 6, & many more.

* please note the (*s) these were scriptures that showed compassion & the importance to GOD. (Opposite: Luke 11:42-46 hypocrisy)

By observing the Sabbath do we= Matthew 25:31-46,

Genesis 28:20-22 Jacob established a promise to GOD on his Tithe. Giving a 10th , 10% of 100% if translation fits our measurements. Malachi 3:10, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 15:1-6, James 1:27, Leviticus 27:30, I hope this is helpful

Hebrews 10:1-39, Malachi 3:10, Matthew 25:31-46, Isaiah 58:6-8, James 2:15-20

Hopefully these help

English Sacha. Is that what you have gleaned from what I addressed to Earl? You've made some assumptions that clearly are emotive rather than what I had written or is revealed in the Bible. We're discussing the fact of God's Judgement to all who are not saved through Jesus Christ.

How God decides who are worthy of judgement (whether some primitive soul or those with mental shortcomings, etc), is God's matter, not mine nor yours. If you believe this God of Love is incapable of judging sinners in such a manner, then you would need to consider the operation of God throughout Scriptures - i.e. He is indeed a God of Love but also a God of Justice. We can often be conditioned by the world & what we perceive to be right, to think of such a justice system as normal, as true. Whereas God's Justice always demands the correct penalty - and unfortunately, simply losing one's life in death (which happens to us all) is just one part of that justice. The wages of sin might indeed be death, but the wages for the rejection of God & His offer of salvation are far greater ( Daniel 12:1,2; Matthew 18:7-9; Matthew 25:31-46; 2 Thessalonians 1:7-9; Jude 1:6,7; Revelation 14:9-11; Revelation 20:10-15). And sister GiGi has also given a very apt response to you.

Earl,

Sorry, it took me a while to study your posts. Scripture is clear; the lake of fire is real and it was prepared for Satan and his angels, Matthew 25:41. Those whose name is not in the book of life will be cast into this lake of fire, the second death, this is the death the saints will be spared. According to scripture we all will be judged and our reward will be given, good or bad according to our works Revelation 22:12. Each of us will have different rewards, some lights will be brighter than others, Daniel 12:2-3 and whether in the lake of fire, the punishments may be also judged accordingly.

My understanding is we do not get a second chance for salvation after this life in this flesh, Hebrews 9:27. We have this, there are evil and good people that live and have lived and those who did not have a chance to hear of the word of God, this may show how they will be judged at the white throne judgment, Romans 2:12-15 (this is my understanding of this), but those who have heard and rejected it, Katy bar the door.

I must humbly disagree, I am not in the lake of fire, we will be judged with fire, 1 Corinthians 3:11-15. The Bible has symbolic wording but represents real things, people, kingdoms, etc. I am sorry I can't follow interpreting the scriptures by allegorizing all, I feel we turn all scripture into parables.

RLW

Please give insight on the "talents" given and multiplied in Matthew 25:15-30. This is clearly not about silver or gold which will perish. But is of spiritual nature. Sharing the gospel to win souls?