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Can the sins of your great grandparents be held against you?

The Mandela Effect is false. Just another way that Satan is trying to trick you. The bible is true.

I don't know about the song but I do know that a famous artist painted a picture of a lamb lying down with a lion. But the picture is incorrect according to the bible. It was a wolf lying down with the lamb in my bible and always was.

Do you really believe that God would allow His words (the bible) to be changed? Not possible. My bible is the same today as it was 60 years ago when it was given to me.

I'm not sure if someone is claiming the KJV has changed or not, but if that's the claim that can be easily resolved by looking any verse up in the 1611 A.D. version which is on this website. People have made this claim a lot and instead of taking a few seconds to verify if their verse has actually changed, some insist that the KJV is somehow wrong and that their memory is never wrong. Personally I trust God's word more than man's word. People should also keep in mind that the English language has changed a lot in 400 years, so in case it's a word being spelled slightly differently, it doesn't mean a translation is corrupted if it updates to the proper spoken language.

I have found many hardly used older Bibles at Goodwill or Salvation Army stores. Keep an eye out.

I do understand how people can get things messed up sometimes. But I'm not saying Satan is doing any of this, in fact only God would have that sort of power in my opinion. I can't tell you exactly how, but I know what my Bible used to say and what it now says, and it no longer matches. I was born in 1974, I'm not aware of any of those things you referred to in regards to why I have it mixed up, but I'm going off of what I read in my actual Bible.

Mark 13:10 is a great example, don't you remember "and the gospel must first be preached among all nations"? It now says Published instead of preached. I believe it's the time of great revelation. 2020 vision. Truth is being revealed. Think of the division Paul brought to the churches. The confusion and all the various denominations (Over 38,000).

Well now Paul tells us in 2 Cor. 11:8 how he robbed churches. That was not always in my Bible that way.

Mammas and the pappas, California dreaming song used to say got down on my knees and began to pray, now it says pretend to pray. I don't know why we have alternate realities but I read the Bible dozens of times, I just know it's changed for me. There's no doubt about it and it's in a supernatural way. The big one for me is the Thinker statue with it's fist to it's forehead. I had the statue growing up, yet he never had his fist to his forehead, it's supposedly always been to his mouth and chin. There's never been Stouffer's Stove Top Stuffing, it's always been Kraft Stove Top.

None of this ringing a bell for anyone?

If satan has the power to go back in time and change the bible (Mandela effect) then he is more powerful than the Lord.

at least those who push this ridiculous theory want us to believe.

God promised to PRESERVE his words and if things were changed, then He failed.

Example: Isaiah 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.

The "lion shall lay down with the lamb" is a lyric made popular by the 1937 song, "Peace in the Valley" written by Thomas A. Dorsey

Lion with lamb was a song

It was first made popular by Red Foley and the Sunshine Boys in 1951 after being recorded by Sam Cooke of the Soul Stirrers in 1950 and rising to limited success. But it wasn't until Elvis Presley recorded the song on his first Christmas Album with the Jordanaires that "Peace in the Valley" received worldwide fame.

On January 6, 1957, Elvis sang "Peace in the Valley" on the Ed Sullivan Show,

After the popularity of Elvis' rendition of the song, many ministers around the nation began integrating the lyrics into their sermons. that is what many remember.

Chris,

I appreciate your feedback concerning the Seventh Day.

In considering the other side of the teaching that you presented, I will respond below.

The Seventh day was declared by God BEFORE He chose Israel. This Law was established for ALL to obey and enjoy.

The 10 Commandments are OT LAW, are they abolished?

Do you still follow the 10 Commandments?

Jesus abolished BLOOD Ordinances, and either partially or completely fulfilled OT prophecy concerning His first coming, but Christ did not come to abolish the LAW.

So, then, if a person claims to have FAITH in Jesus but all of his WORKS are evil, where do you think this person ends up? Jesus tells us very plainly ( Matthew 7:23). Looks like FAITH has a lot to do with following the LAW ( Galatians 3:11-12) and with WORKS, ( James 2:17).

The English word "week" is defined from the Greek word meaning "Sabbath" or "day of rest;" also a 7 day period of time.

You state that the Lord God or His only begotten Son changed the holy Sabbath day based upon Scripture (from your understanding of Acts 20:7, 1 Corinthians 16:2, and Revelation 1:10):

"The first day of the week began to be recognized as the Lord's Day and that the Church began worshipping on that day"

Acts 20:7, concerns the first day of the Sabbath in reckoning the 7 Sabbaths to Pentecost.

1 Corinthians 16:2 has to do with preparation (work) for when Paul returns.

Revelation 1:10 concerns John being taken "in the spirit" to the great and dreadful "day of the Lord" or the "Lord's day"

when the Messiah shall return, and John is given testimony in relation to that. (Not Sunday!)

None of these Scriptures you offer give authorization to change the Sabbath day from the SEVENTH DAY to the FIRST DAY of the week.

Christ FORETOLD US EVERYTHING WE NEED TO KNOW. God did not give us instruction to change the Sabbath, neither did Jesus, nor did the Prophets and Apostles.

I am beginning to understand what Jesus meant with this

Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

what is a dog?

Deuteronomy Chapter 2317 There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.

18 Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog, into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these [are] abomination unto the LORD thy God.

Parallelism this is called.

One never knows when a sheep will clean off the filth of this world and be strong in Christ.

Comment: clearly Jesus loves babies & little children and disabled in comprehension.

Matthew 19:14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 7:11

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Matthew Chapter 18

3 And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven.

4 Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

5 And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name receiveth me.

6 But whoso shall offend one of these little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and that he were drowned in the depth of the sea.

AGE OF ACCOUNTABILITY

I think the best way to answer that is to say this: There is no "age of accountability" identified in Scripture, as such. There is nothing in the Bible that says, "Here is the age and from here on you are responsible!" I think the reason for that is because children mature at different paces. That would be true from culture to culture, and from age to age in history.

So the Lord in His wisdom didn't identify a specific moment. God knows when each soul is accountable. God knows when real rejection has taken place; when the love of sin exists in the heart. When enmity with God is conscious and willful. God alone knows when that occurs.

Comment: Jesus is going to take the little ones in the Rapture. He'll not leave them here to be used as bait for Antichrist's Mark of the Beast.

If you LOVE your kids; infants & older, everyone pray now to receive Jesus as Savior and Lord! Decide NOW. In the blink of an eye, is all we've got to make that decision. Put your most holy trust in Jesus.

I don't know what you mean by deadly sins. All sins can be forgiven but one.

Proverbs 6?

Proverbs 8 is what you are looking for. There are 6 things that God hates; but I advise reading the whole chapter.

Click on the link

Name all the deadly sins I believe there are seven

Genesis 1: 28 Our Lords vision and plan for his children is to Multiply and Increase

1. Enlarge your Tent : Tent represents Prayer, our prayer time should be extended- Exodus 33:9

2. Stretch our your curtains : Curtain represent the Holiness - Exodus 26:33

3. Do not hold back : Represent not to be a hindrance to god's work - Luke 9:49-50

4. Lengthen you cords : Represents Love of God Hosea 11:4

5. Strengthen your Stakes : Represents the Word of God Matthew 7:24-25

Ephesians 5:10 and find our what pleases the God.

This what Lord wanted from us and it pleased to him

Amen.

Chris,

I do agree that there are other English translations that are easier to read than the KJV. Maybe that's why I was given a Living Bible as my first Bible. It's not one I would recommend to anyone. I definitely wouldn't give it to one of my kids or grandkids. I don't think my mother knew much about the LB before she gave it to me. It's not even a translation, but a paraphrase. That's what concerns me about paraphrase bibles. The author can write anything he or she wants and then publish it. I only used two verses as an example. There are many others that I feel completely change the true meaning of the text. That's what matters the most to me. I am not a "King James Only" person, even though that is the translation I study from. There are other good English translations that are easier to read than the KJV. I can't argue that. But for myself, I stay away from the LB. I hope I have not offended anyone here that does use that version. We are all free to choose whatever Bible we want. We just have to ask ourselves what is most important to us when choosing a translation, accuracy or easy to read.

The NKJV is essentially a modernized version of the KJV, removing the 'Thee(s) & Thou(s)" & using some more familiar words to today's reader. There are of course, some critics to its textual accuracy, but I've always said, that I would rather a believer read the Bible he can understand, than trying to cope with 17th century English & not understand what is being read. Having said that, many Bible scholars speak highly of the NASB as being both modern & faithful to the original manuscripts. I've never used either - I'm too old fashioned & just can't identify with any other translation. The first editions of the Good News Bible & Readers Digest Bible were full of errors, but I do admit finding some value in the Living Bible(!).

The intriguing errors you cited, Jesse, were not totally unreasonable, if the Scriptures are the same ones I'm thinking of. 1 Ki 18:27 speaks of Elijah taunting the worshippers of Baal who couldn't arouse their god to hear them. So Elijah suggested they cry out louder since he may be busy, sleeping, on a journey, or 'pursuing' = relieving himself. So, fortunately, the LB doesn't apply this act to our God.

The other one is in 1 Sam 20:30 when Saul's anger was "kindled against Jonathon" & he called him "you stupid son of a whore" = "son of a perverse rebellious woman". And of course, the word 'whore' is used quite liberally in the Scriptures. So, it can raise eyebrows with its flowery language, so there may be some (limited) value in it.

Yea, I'm like you. I'm not really sure how many bibles I have. They are all KJV bibles except for one Living Bible. That one just collects dust on a bookshelf. I'm not too sure why I even still have it. I guess out of sight, out of mind. I can't give it away because if it's something I won't read, I wouldn't want anyone else to read it either. I'd throw it in the trash but I'm afraid the guy at the dump would get a hold of it.

I do sometimes look at other bibles to make comparisons. I have four different bible software programs on my computer that have tons of different bibles and other books. There is a free online program you can download from e-Sword. That is one of the programs I have. It gives you several bibles, and many other books that I find helpful.

I have heard good things about the NKJV but have not read from that one. Chris may have, I don't know, but I do trust his recommendations.

i love studying The King James version of the Bible because it gives the real context and meanings

LOL. I have never seen those verses. I only say that for people who have trouble with eth on the end of words.

I think Chris said the new KJV is a better version to get. I tried to read a NIV but gave up.

I have a real hard time "retiring old Bibles".

What do you do?

Mishael,

I completely agree with you on the King James but the Living Bible is no bueno (Spanish for not bueno) My very first Bible was the Living Bible. My mother gave it to me when I was very young. I still own it but never read it. It is not even a translation. It is a paraphrase and a very poor one in my opinion. It says things like God was on the toilet, and in one place it says says "son of a b....." I could probably share with you many places in the Living Bible that might change your mind on recommending it. I just wanted to share this with you. Like I said, I do own a Living Bible and I have a lot of things marked up in it that are questionable.

I'm thinking there is one Word of God, and that is the Son of Man, who is Jesus.

We're living in the last days. It becomes more and more evident the separation of Christians by the Names of Their Religion.

Book of Mormon

Jehovah Witnesses: rewrote their Bibles to blot out "GOD" and change it to Jehovah (through the entire Bible)

The Catholic Bibles

Look at the Publishers page in the Bible before purchasing.

....... having a form of godliness, but denying THE POWER of God.

King James Version Bible has the purest translation I think. However a Living Bible is easier for adolescents and teenagers to understand at first. I have 2: both hopelessly marked up/can't read it. :/

If I'm wrong, the Holy Spirit will be by later to set me straight. :o

Be careful telling others they will go to hell if they do ____. The Bible says not to do that and says what will happen if you do. Matthew 7:1. Secondly, that's an assumption and you don't actually know how God will judge. Romans 9:15, Matthew 7:14.

Yeah, you are correct. Heaven is real, at the same time hell is also real. If any one wants to go to Heaven, He should acknowledge and accept Jesus Christ as his Lord and savior. Other wise they will go to hell. Mormons, Catholicism, etc.,. are lead by satan. For Devil is the lier, he makes a false christianity. Be careful of those kinds of false techings.

The world has its perception of God and His Heaven. They believe in a generic god. They believe that all people are basically good, they believe people can become angels, they believe that almost everyone goes to heaven when they die from this world..there are even pastors who help perpetuate this delusion. That is the broad way which many travel...But we know the truth. That only by belief in Jesus Christ and repentance of sin can you go to heaven. That is the narrow way we few travel.

>"So it was not sin as long as they got married at some future point afterwards"

Hello, I'm not sure who told you that, but that doesn't come from God and isn't Biblical or true. The father of lies (satan) loves distorting the minds of Christians and encouraging them to spread falsehoods to others. Even though Christians are saved by grace sin is a big deal and should be avoided at nearly all costs. John 14:15, Matthew 5:29-30. Matthew 7:16-27, Matthew 7:26-27, Galatians 5:17, Hebrews 10:26.

Jesus dose know but he did not know while he was on earth

The TEN Commandments * Exodus 20

1 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And showing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

3 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

4 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work: But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates: For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day, and hallowed it.

5 Honor thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

6 Thou shalt not kill.

7 Thou shalt not commit adultery.

8 Thou shalt not steal.

9 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

10 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbor's.

The law and the prophets is a reference to what we now call the Old Testament scriptures which contain the law of Moses and the Prophetic writings such as Jeremiah ect.