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Revelation 22:18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
I just want to comment on the word mansion used in John 14:2 and let you know that this word mansion is not what we would normally think of when we hear the word mansion. If you want clarification on what it means, I can provide.
As for your questions, I will refrain from answering as Suze has graciously stated that she will provide you an in-depth scriptural response. I look forward to reading!
Thank you for your answer to my question, May the Lord bless you today and always.
And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. God has a plan for salvation and we have no right to change it by our interpretation of the word 2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: These are not my word, they are scripture By Which we as CHRISTIANS must live by. I submit this in the love of Jesus and the hope of seeing his will, that NO MAN SHOULD PARRISH !
It is not mentioned regarding Paul's "thorn in the flesh"; but GOD often times uses these "thorns" to bring good out of it.
As we learn to trust in the LORD, our walk will be with the grace of GOD. We will be enlighten and encouraged to trust more in the LORD because HIS strength is made perfect in our weakness.
This chapter shows how volatile and sinful our society is and the common sins that beset them then, does so to us even now.
May we all be diligent to pray for the ministry of the GOSPEL of CHRIST. May we be strengthened to minster even in the face of great adversity. Praying for Godly wisdom unto those who occupy the leadership of the civil, ecclesiastical and all positions of authority. May they turn to YOU LORD, and put away the vile and evil agenda that has caused our nation and many parts of the world to be in economic, social, political, and religious unrest.
Thank YOU FATHER for hearing our cries.
"He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, LORD JESUS." Revelation 22:20
May the Lord's hand be on all who are on this forum. The Lord's face shine upon you and your family.
June 11, 2022
The Moral law contains the Love and legal code God has for His Universe and beloved children. It is;
Written in stone by God's own finger - Exodus 31:18, Deuteronomy 4:12-13, 9:10
Has always existed & will be kept throughout eternity and throughout all the universe - Psalm 111:7,8, Romans 5:19 refers to Adam sinning in the Garden of Eden
Jesus said He did not come to destroy it but to fulfil it - Matt 5:17 - 19
Jesus said 'If you love me keep my commandments' John 14:15 and that 'He is the Lord of the Sabbath - Mark 2:28 - yet never mentions it being dissolved or changed
God's people are commanded to keep the Commandments of God for all eternity & God's people are identified by it because they keep it out of love to God and by faith - Exodus 19:5, Ecclesiastes 12:13,14, Psalm 111:7,8, Revelation 14:12, 12:17
Lives in the heart of God's children - Psalms 40:8
We are judged by them - James 2:12
Blessed with access to the Tree of Life if you keep them by faith - Revelation 22:14
I agree with you that Christ is the final judge. Every person will someday stand before Him and give an account. I believe the bible speaks of two separate judgments, one for believers, and one for non-believers. Every believer will stand at the Bema Seat judgment of Christ. That judgment is not to determine Heaven or Hell, but what our reward/s will be. There will be a future judgment called the Great White Throne judgment. No believer will stand at that judgment. But yes, Christ will be the judge at both.
I am looking at Revelation 22:14, which you shared, and for me it describes a person who is saved. I totally agree with you that Jesus' words remain consistent. No argument from me there! And yes, scripture tells us what is expected of us.
As far as confusion about salvation goes, I cannot speak for anyone else but myself. Salvation seems simple to me. Once I am convicted of my need to be saved, I'm to confess my Spiritual bankruptcy before Christ, repent of my sin, call out to Him to have mercy on me and to save me, and surrender my life completely to Him. Jesus said that if I want to be His disciple, I must deny (ARNEOMI/Reject) myself, take up my cross daily, and follow Him. The message sounds simple, but for some, giving up their life to follow Christ is the hard part.
I agree with you that we are expected to have a relationship with Jesus, repent, become obedient, refrain from sin, and follow God's commands. But how do I do any of those things? In my human effort, I cannot. My flesh will never submit to the things of the Lord. It all boils down to surrendering my life to Jesus Christ.
Once I give my life to Christ, He gives me His Spirit, and His Spirit in me causes me to be obedient, causes me to have a relationship with Him, causes me to refrain from sin, and causes me to follow His commands. If I become disobedient, He deals with me and sometimes it can be pretty harsh.
As always, pleasure to talk with you. Blessings to you also!
You not only strongly disagree with me, you strongly disagree with Jesus Christ, and everything else written in the Bible that doesn't agree with your extreme OSAS point of view.
Revelation 20:12
"And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works."
I guess you also disagree with the above scripture - stating when the "Book of Life" is opened - the dead will be judged according to their works!
Jesus tells us point blank: Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."
So, you are simply ignoring all of the scripture that I listed above, and the entire gospel of Jesus Christ, and you state you are going to heaven anyway.
Jesus, will be our Judge, we can't just ignore all of the scripture!
God Bless.
Thus saith the LORD, As the new wine is found in the cluster, and one saith, Destroy it not; for a blessing is in it: so will I do for my servants' sakes, that I may not destroy them all.
And I will bring forth a seed out of Jacob, and out of Judah an inheritor of my mountains: and mine elect shall inherit it, and my servants shall dwell there. And Sharon shall be a fold of flocks, and the valley of Achor a place for the herds to lie down in, for my people that have sought me. Isaiah 65:8-10.
NOTICE: HERES A CONTRAST GROUP IN Isaiah 65:11-16. These blessings is not to ALL!
Isaiah 65:17. parallels with Revelation 21:1. So you can go back and forward between the two books and get the sequence of events in its order and see the players involved and their separate destinations.
Isaiah 65:18-20 is clearly Israel and clearly future. (Not the Church)
See here the parallels:
Isaiah 65:19. and Revelation 21:4.
Isaiah 65:21_23. and Deuteronomy 28:30-33 ( Deuteronomy 28:45-46) is clearly Israel.
Isaiah 65:25. Clearly future.
Notice the economy, location, two groups and two fates, in both Revelation and Isaiah in both books last few chapters.
Isaiah 66.
Isaiah66;17-21. and Matthew 25:31-46. (Judgement of the individuals of the Nations) Notice three groups 1) The sheep.
2) The Goats. 3) The little ones. (Possibly the 144000 sealed servants.)
Isaiah 66:22. Shows Gods faithful promises and purpose for Israel is eternal.
Now we come to Isaiah 66;23-24.
Isaiah 66:23. Speaks of All those who are saved!
Isaiah 66:24. Speaks of those who are not. ( Revelation 21:1-8.)
IS 66;24. And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcasses of the men that have transgressed against me: FOR THEIR WORM SHALL NOT DIE, NEITHER SHALL THEIR FIRE BE QUENCED; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh. ( This speaks of their eternal state of damnation.) as seen in Revelation 20:13-15. Revelation 22:11.
2 Peter 3:6-14. Speaks of two groups, repentance, consequences.
I believe both you and Suze are right.
At Christ Resurrection, David received the promise of immortal life, he has become the SEED, now he is planting SEED as is Christ.
David the SEED has no need of a PLACE called (literal) HEAVEN, man doctrine.
Isaiah 6:13 But yet in it (the land, earth) shall be a tenth, and it (the tenth, the offering to the Lord in righteousness) shall return (first resurrection), and shall be eaten: as a teil tree and as an oak, whose substance IS IN THEM, when they cast their leaves, the HOLY SEED shall be the substance thereof.
Revelation 22:2 ....and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.
Do we agree that the OLD SAINTS were raised with Christ, let me know if we don't, and we will look to the scriptures for the answer.
God Bless YOU!
I agree that our physical death ends any chance for our salvation and today is the accepted time for tomorrow we may be gone. When we die, what's inside will determine what we get, Isaiah 55:6. Revelation 22:11 along with verse 12 brings other scripture up to me, that you may not agree with.
Do you think it refers to the door being shut, at the end of the days of grace, the fulness of the Gentiles? I know it is not thought of much, but God does know when and who the last person will be saved. Those who have not accepted Jesus as their savior will no longer be able to find Him after he closes the door on salvation like God closed the door on the ark, Genesis 7:16 Luke 17:27.
He has warned us. The door will close someday. Whether it is upon our death or that He allows one hardened heart to remain hard or that He allows those to accept the delusion, 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12, the door to salvation will close. Matthew 7:13 - 14 Luke 13:24-25 John 10:9 Revelation 3:8.
Thank you and God bless,
RLW
These scriptures are clear! there's no way one can honestly deny or twist them.
And Daniel sums it up well also.
Daniel 12:9-10. And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.
Daniel was told these words would be sealed unto the END. They're to be unsealed here in
Revelation 22:10-11. And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Here we see the same thing referenced in the old testament.
Both Daniel and John gives the contrast of the fate of two groups. This so-called refining fire has already past.
God bless.
A very tough verse to deal with.
He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
In the context of death and the end times, this is a dire warning. Unbelievers who reject the gospel do not receive a second chance to be saved if they die. Eternity does not change anyone's status. The person who dies in an unsaved condition will be unsaved throughout eternity, and the saved person will be saved throughout eternity.
When Jesus returns, He will reward the righteous but punish the unrighteous. Daniel 12:10 states that in the end time "Many shall purify themselves and make themselves white and be refined, but the wicked shall act wickedly." Someday it will be too late for the unsaved to change their destination by repenting and believing in Jesus. Hebrews 3:15 implores: "Today, if you hear his voice., do not harden your hearts."
More to come.
God bless
Revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of this book .....
What happens to those whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN in the Book of Life?
Revelation 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth SHALL WORSHIP HIM, whose names ARE NOT WRITTEN in the book of life of the Lamb, slain from the foundation of the world.
Acts 22:1 And it shall COME TO PASS, that whosoever calls upon the name of the Lord shall be save.
God Bless YOU!
Now is the time for salvation!!
That time seems to winding down.
I believe it's evident in the state of the world and also in the Apostasy at large. Also with this pandemic we've seen a sifting sort to speak.
Hebrews 9:27-28. seems to parallel with Revelation 22.
"And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."
Revelation 22:11, 14-15. HE THAT IS UNJUST, LET HIM BE UNJUST STILL: AND HE WHICH IS FILTHY, LET HIM BE FILTHY STILL: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
FOR WITHOUT ARE DOGS, AND SORCERERS, AND WHOREMONGERS, AND MURDERERS, AND IDOLATERS, AND WHOSOEVER LOVETH AND MAKETH A LIE.
There's a solemn warning for those who desire to add or take anything away from this book.
NO Ambassador of Christ would dare do that. Wisdom is known by her children and that certainly wouldn't be wise.
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom. But why fear if there is no consequences.
This false teaching there is no Satan no Hell and no consequences assists and comfort a sinner in his folly.
Look at Ecclesiastes 8:11-12. it confirms that.
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely. Revelation 22:17.
Man has to realize his condition and hopeless fate and come. otherwise he will be UNJUST STILL.
God bless.
Revelation 20:11-15.
Judgment and the division of two groups. Those written in the book of life and those cast into the lake of fire. Matthew 25:41.
Revelation 21:1-6.
New heaven and new earth.
Revelation 21:7-8.
A mention of two separate groups set for two destinations.
Here in Revelation 21:9-27. we have
A view of the bride and great city Jerusalem and the nations of them which are saved and the gates.
Notice who's is absent in verse 27.(And there shall in no wise enter into it any thing that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination, or maketh a lie:) Note; Same group in Revelation 20:15.
We shall see this group again in the next chapter.
However here's a group that made it in! ( but they which are written in the Lamb's book of life.)
Revelation 22:1-21.
Verse 10 the climax.
"And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand."
Separation. and fate sealed.
NO REFINING FIRE.
Revelation 22:11-15. HE THAT IS UNJUST, LET HIM BE UNJUST STILL: and he which is filthy, LET HIM BE FILTHY STILL: and he that is righteous, LET HIM BE RIGHTEOUS STILL: and he that is holy, LET HIM BE HOLY STILL.
And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
FOR WITHOUT ARE DOGS, AND SORCERERS, AND WHOREMONGERS, AND MURDERERS, AND IDOLATERS, and WHOSOEVER LOVETH AND MAKETH A LIE.( Same group in Revelation 20:15.
Revelation21: 27.)
and Matthew 25:41.
Who's the unjust that is unjust still?
A warning!! Revelation 22:18-19.
God bless.
Alive for Evermore - Rev 1:18
All Knowing Psalm 139:1-6
All, and in All - Colossians 3:11
Almighty - Revelation 1:8
Alpha and Omega - Revelation 1:8
Altar - Hebrews 13:10
Altogether Lovely - Song of Solomon 5:16
Amen - Revelation 3:14
Ancient of Days - Daniel 7:13 & Daniel 7:22
Anointed One - 1 Samuel 2:35
Author of Eternal Salvation - Hebrews 5:9
Author of our Faith - Hebrews 12:2
Balm of Gilead - Jeremiah 8:22
Banner over us - Ps 60:4, S of Sol 2:4
Bearer of Sin - Hebrews 9:28
Before All Things - Colossians 1:17
Beginning and Ending - Revelation 1:8
Bishop of our Souls - 1 Peter 2:25
Blessed and Only Potentate - 1 Timothy 6:15
Blessed Hope - Titus 2:13
Bread of Life, my manna - John 6:35
Bridegroom - John 3:29
Bright and Morning Star - Revelation 22:16
Brightness of His Glory - Hebrews 1:3
Buckler - Psalms 18:30
Captain - Joshua 5:14-15, Hebrews 2:10
Changeless One - Malachi 3:6, Hebrews 13:8
Chief Among 10,000, S. of Solomon 5:10
Chosen of God - 1 Peter 2:4
Christ - Matthew 1:16 - 1 John 5:1
Comforter - John 14:16-18
Consolation of Israel - Luke 2:25
Counselor - Isaiah 9:6
Creator - Romans 1:25 - Isaiah 40:28
Crown of Glory - Isaiah 28:5
Read 1 Corinthians 6:9; Revelation 22:15 to name a few verses that speak to sexual immorality, of which homosexuality is one such form of sexual immorality.
There's a strong warning In Revelation 22: 18&19 to anyone claiming to be a prophet today.
Those which were fulfilled by Christ before He ascended though...
His Resurrection & Ascension
The 1st verse is when these events were prophesied and the latter when they were fulfilled.
Raised from the deadPs 16:8-11Acts 2:24-31
Begotten as Son of GodPs 2:7Acts 13:32-35
Ascended to GodPs 68:18Eph 2:8-10
Seated beside GodPs 110:1Heb 1:3+13
There remain a number of prophesies unfulfilled which are written in the book of Revelation (which given to us under the New Covenant and concords with scripture as far back as Leviticus).
What prophesy has ceased? Absolutely everything after Revelation chapter 22. No one has prophesy beyond what's written in the Bible. The Holy Bible is a finished work but an ongoing prophesy. Each time someone stands up and says "I had a vision", "I have a prophesy..." this is not true.
Revelation 22:18-19
"For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."
That warning is to anyone who dare prophesy beyond the prophesies already written in the Holy Bible. The last prophet is Christ Jesus and none other. When John the beloved died -- this is the last God ever revealed new prophesy and with so much yet to come; how is it some are adding to this? Did they not read the warning above?
God Bless.
I love you too, but I hope and pray that you would take what Jesus Christ says to heart, and not just disregard.
Jesus has always told us to follow the Commandments and refrain from sin. Jesus death on the cross did not take away our need to try to follow the law. Jesus said; he did not come to abolish the law - but to fulfill. Christ death provides us the ability to receive forgiveness, if we repent, and strive to be sin free. Christ's death does not give us a free ticket to sin!
Here is Jesus telling the Adulteress to "Sin no More".
John 8:11
"She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."
Jesus has always instructed us to repent and refrain from sin. Hence, Jesus request for us to follow the Commandments if we love Him! Are we any better than the adulteress? No, we are not, so we need to take Jesus serious when He says to: "Sin no More",
Here is Jesus telling Apostle Paul 50-60 years after His crucifixion to follow the Commandments in order to enter into Heaven. If as you say; Jesus death canceled our responsibility regarding sin, and the need to follow His commandments - why would Jesus tell us the following in scripture emphasizing the need to follow the commandments.
Revelation 22:14
"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."
Alex, are you going to just ignore all of this scripture by Jesus?
Jesus is always consistent about telling us to repent from our sins, including the need to follow His Commandments if we wish to enter into Heaven.
As Christ Followers we should be listening to Jesus, and following his instructions. Alex, if you are not listening and following what Jesus Christ tells you, in His scripture - who are you really following?
God Bless.
The Hebrew word I see is helel (shining one), If I recall correctly, I believe the translators had trouble with this because Jesus is referred to as the bright and morning star in Revelation 22:16. They struggled with how to translate this proverb against the king of Babylon. The word Lucifer is from two Latin words 'lucem ferre', derived from roots LUX (light) and FERRE (to carry). I believe Greek is phosphoros or eosphoros.
I will not get into all the folklore, cultures, and myths but Lucifer was a name for the planet Venus, which is the brightest in the morning, but it was also called the evening star. Forgive me if I am wrong, someone else that has done a better study on this may can give you a better answer.
God bless,
RLW
Revelation 22:2 .....the LEAVES are for the healing of the nations ....
Parable:
Christ is the ROOT, we are the BRANCHES, branches bear leaves, the saints are for the healing of the nations.
Matthew 24:32 ......PARABLE ......When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth LEAVES, you now summer is nigh.
And what follows summer, FALL when the crop is HARVESTED, feast of ingathering.
Isaiah 6:13 .....when they cast their LEAVES; the HOLY SEED shall be the substance thereof.
God Bless You!
Mark 13:22
For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce, if it were possible, even the elect.
Matthew 24:24
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
2 Peter 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 Corinthians 11:13
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
Matthew 7:21-23 - Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 1
John 4:1 - Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Corinthians 11:14 - And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
1 Timothy 4:1 - Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Revelation 22:19 - And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the BOOK OF LIFE, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Mishael: The Holy Spirit will give spiritual discernment if you ask for it. Pay attention to the "catches" in your born again spirit. Prove from the Bible what is taught to you.
There are three kinds of hearers who never get saved and only one kind of hearer who gets saved.
Luke 8
11 Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God.
12 Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.
13 They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.
14 And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard, go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.
15 But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word, keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience.
Way side hearers don't give God a second thought.
Those whose seed is received on the rock have no root, which is the Lord Jesus ( Revelation 22:16
I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.)
Those who receive the seed among thorns have no fruit ( Jude 1:12
These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;)
Good ground hearers get saved. They have the root and offspring of David. They have the fruit of the Spirit. And they have the Lord Jesus who will keep them from falling away ( Jude 1:24
Now unto him that is able to keep you from falling, and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy,)
Revelation 22:18
"We have also a more sure word of prophecy, unto which ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn and the morning star arise in your hearts, knowing this first: that no prophecy of the Scripture is of any private interpretation."
Revelation 22:16
"I, Jesus, have sent My angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, the bright Morning Star."
Gog is Russia, Magog is Turkey.
Proverbs 18:2
"A fool does not delight in understanding, but only in airing his opinions."
Matthew 5:33-37
"And don't say anything you don't mean. This counsel is embedded deep in our traditions. You only make things worse when you lay down a smoke screen of pious talk, saying, 'I'll pray for you,' and never doing it, or saying, 'God be with you,' and not meaning it. You don't make your words true by embellishing them with religious lace. In making your speech sound more religious, it becomes less true." -Jesus
Isaiah 54:16-17
"Behold, I have created the craftsman who fans the coals into flame and forges a weapon fit for its task; and I have created the destroyer to wreak havoc. No weapon formed against you shall prosper, and you will refute every tongue that accuses you. This is the heritage of the servants of the LORD, and their vindication is from Me," declares the LORD.