Discuss Revelation 7 Page 12

Verse 1: These destructive winds show just how extensive the great tribulation and Armageddon will be. It is important to prepare for such events right now.

God is a God of the living not the dead. Anyone who has read the Bilble knows that there are no souls in the graves. Christ when crucified went to the tomb which is the other side of the void known as hell and brought those out from all the way back who had lived by the law but didn't make it and Christ save them before He sat on the throne. Paul teaches of the two bodies we have flesh-spiritual.

Think about this- why didn't anyone that Jesus raised from the dead speaking about heaven OR complaining about having to come back here? All the seals and Trump's are progressive through the ages. The show is over at the last trump when Christ decends with a shout. With the voice of the archangel. Ecclesiastes says when you're dead you know nothing. Resurrection is at last trump according to God

Bruce I believe the dead in Christ have never died, they are not in flesh but they are with Him right now and First, yes they are, first with Christ. We will be changed at the 7th trump and when they return we will meet them in spiritual bodies. Oh, all will change at the 7th trump and that's the good,bad, and ugly.

word:The Lord's Word is like people telling stories.Some events will be Future,some will be Passed,some will be Present.God's Word says at The Last Trump The Dead in Christ Shall Rise First.Remember ye The Words which were spoken of The Apostles---there will be Mockers in The Last Time:JUDE17-19/Evil men and Seducers wax Worse,deceiving and being deceived:2Timothy3:13 /Is The Father Calling.

Sabbath keeper you need to read Corinthians. Paul tells us once the silver corn has parted we are with the Father. 1 Thess 4:13 the subject there is where are the dead and they are with Christ and shall return with Him. but I bet the Romans had something to do with it. Yeah sealing up the graves so no one can ascend.

thumper: And did he ever! He testified who he was,how he persecuted the believers.( Hitler of that day). How he meant The Savior on the road to Damascus. Oh to meet The Savior for a life change! A Great multitude which no man could number,of all nations and kindreds and people and Tongues, stood before The Throne and before the Lamb: Revelation 7:9. Celebration with no---------------------- end

Love: these are they which were not defiled with women for they are virgins. Revelations 14:4

Sabbath keeper and Wife where does it say the 144,000 are virgins?

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the Lamb, clothed with

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the Archangel and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 1Thessalonians 4:16-18

The 144,000 aren't yet in heaven. No one is. Another lie of Rome to support humans being immortal. Only God is immortal and no one has yet ascended but He who has descended. All with hear his voice and come out of the graves on the last day at the last trump. Jesus says this 4 times on one gospel alone. It's part of the same lie as burning forever. It's NOT biblical. Search scripture DAILY to know

What God has done is allow our adversaries to HURT us when we wouldn't keep his laws and follow other gods (even SELF) like he did to Isreal with Babylon

Sorta, He's gonna allow satan to once all the remnant are sealed(learning truth and repenting-which means to turn and follow righteous spirit filled behavior, can't do it without) .God isn't too much concerned with our physical bodies as he is with spiritual ones and FOREVER. Millions have been martyred AND will be rewarded at 2nd coming. "My reward is with me". We will suffer for Him. Way it is

WOW!... God issued an Order that required the earth and sea to be hurt, WOW!.... but, before this Order of GOD is carried-out, God sealed 144,000 servants . WOW, 144,000 is sealed.

The 144,000 ,which are virgins(not in bed with harlott) came thru tribulation. washing robes(righteousness, lest he walk naked), sealed on forehead(grounded in Rev12:17 which is the ONLY way not to get mark of beast)is "spiritual"isreal-Gods chosen. Bride is same as the woman- his church. The mark is for those who don't get 12:17

False. The 144,000 Jews to come out of Israel are from the Kingdom of Heaven and not from the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom of God is still here, {why}, The Holy Spirit Tongues is still here and in effect. Those 144,000 Jews do not speak in tongues however God Himself marked each one of them alone with something else very special which only they alone have been given. The True Bride is in Heaven

The 144000 are on earth and they capture the truth and are sealed right after instead of Christ gets here or just minutes before. Anyway it will happen as it's written. Preacher's don't tell you the false Christ is coming first or they will tell you we are going to fly away but no one goes nowhere and we are all changed at the 7th trump and will meet the Lord and those that are with Him.

the 144,000 are presently in heaven. they are from the 12 tribes of Israel which the tribes no longer exist. when jesus died he went into the earth and preached to the captive because they were captive to the law and jesus fulfilled the law and the promise. they looked for him and believed and it was counted to them as righteousness. when he arose he brought them out of the earth with him.

People will follow Satan because they are deceived. And predestined by God to receive the mark.

Psalms 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. Proverbs 19:12 The king's wrath is as the roaring of a lion but his favour is as dew upon the grass. 20:2 Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. Ecclesiasticus 27:10 As the lion lieth in wait for the prey so sin for them that work iniquity.

Ask the LORD to teach you who "the lion" is. We are in a spiritual war, a war not of the flesh. In Christ Jesus, be blessed and be saved from the lion's mouth which is the wrath of God. 2 Timothy 4:17 Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion. 1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Do not be deceived. By the will of God Almighty, Satan can and does enter into men as our LORD teaches us in Luke 22:3. Satan is walking in a man TODAY as "the lion" over Syria. God bless. Jeremiah 4:7 The lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way he is gone forth from his place to make thy land desolate and thy cities shall be laid waste, without an inhabitant. 25:38 He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion: for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor, and because of his fierce anger. Amos 3:8 The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?

Revelations 13 tells us what Satan does, after he is cast out of heaven and thrown to the earth because he lost his battle with Michael.

I have to say, The dragon (Satan) in Revelations would not have to speak to people, I don't see where it says he does speak to people. " Speaks as a dragon" would be a loud animal sound.
People are deceived by him and have been since Eve including me and I have never heard an audible voice. His power and authority is what causes them to follow and worship him. All done by God Almighty hand.

bgardner;Also you call Satan a "person"The book of Revelations calls him a"dragon,beast".He comes to earth full of wrath because he knows he does not have long to live, according to Revelations. His desire is to deceive, lie and destroy, just as he has done since the beginning. God gives him the power to do it.Romans11:33"For of him, through him, and to him, are all things,to whom be gloryforever"

Bgardner, Will you give us scripture that proves what you say is true about antichrist?

The Antichrist may not look like Christ but he wants to be Christ and wants everyone to belive he is the real Christ. He will come peacefully; have great wealth; will seem to do everything with love and lead the nations as a caring person. Many people will be deceived and will worship him. He will have a spiritual leader partner with him and testify that he is Christ. And many will be deceived.

Word, you sill have not given scripture that says, Satan comes " looking like" the Lamb of God.
I don't think I wrote as though I didn't understand they said "wait". They said wait. I do not speak "dragon", as you wrote that Satan speaks. How will anyone understand him to follow him and be deceived? I do understand the English lanquage.

when the 6th trumpet will blow. This is the signs the lord our god is cominjg soon to judges us.

Lu2677 so when the first Christ that shows up looking like the Lamb of God speaking great things and calling himself God your going to rapture up aren't you? The false messiah comes first at the 6th trump and comes in peace and prosperity and obtains his throne over the whole earth so I think you should read Daniel and Revelation 6 where the first rider shows up and remember he speaks DRAGON!