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Hello Ronald,

Thanks for posting this series on the Last Supper Discourse.

In Part 2 you said several ideas that I don't find supported by the text or the teachings of Scripture concerning Jesus Christ.

In the passage that speaks of "giving eternal life" it states that Jesus was given power and authority by the Father AND that "he" (Jesus) gives eternal life. It is true that it is God who gives eternal life, but Scripture states clearly that both the Father and the Son, Jesus Christ give eternal life --- John 10:28; 1 John 5:11-13; 20; John 6:27, 54; 1 John 1:2.

John 17:2

"even as You (the Father) gave Him (Jesus, the Son)authority over all flesh, that to all whom You (the Father) have given Him (Jesus), He (Jesus)may give eternal life."

When we look at the truth of this verse it clearly states that Jesus give eternal life to all the Father gives Him.

To say of this verse that it is the Father who gives life is not exegeting this verse properly and it diminishes the deity of Jesus.

Also, you state that it was through the Holy Spirit that Jesus knew the Father's will and what to say. But this is not what Scriptures say. In John 14:31 it says that Jesus does all that the Father commands Him (Jesus) to do. No mention of the Holy Spirit here. John 5:19 says that Jesus does all that He sees the Father do. So He knows what the Father's will is and what God is says and does through His own divinity and not through the Holy Spirit.

In His human nature, Jesus relied on the Holy Spirit to be obedient to the Father, but His divinity, being unified with the Father and the Holy Spirit, knew all the will of God, all that the Father does, all that the Father says.

John 10:15 says that "even as the Father knows Me and I know the Father; and I lay down My life for the sheep."

To speak as though Jesus needed the Holy Spirit to know what He was to do or say denies His divinity and oneness with the Father. See part 2

Part 8

John 17:1-5,

All pre-existed in the mind, thoughts, reason, and doctrine of our God the Father, the definition of logos. Revelation 3:14, the beginning of the creation of God, the starting point, the predetermined position of authority that God would give to His Son at the point in time that God planned before creation.

Jesus understood all the Scriptures that foretold the glory destined for Him in the mind of God the Father before creation. God's thoughts and plans began with Jesus, who became the tabernacle of God in flesh on earth. Through Him, eternal life can be bestowed upon all who believe in Him. Every word Jesus spoke was God's word: John 7:15-16, John 12:49, John 14:24.

How should we understand verse 3? Jesus, in prayer to the Father, states that eternal life is dependent on knowing the Father, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, the Messiah whom God sent.

Jesus knew who He was. He said in John 20:17, He had a Father and a God. Jesus is praying to His Father, He had no power of himself; all he did and said was the Father working in him. Jesus perfectly submitted to God's will by choice and obedience; the glory Jesus was praying for was yet to be realized, only in the knowledge He had from Scripture and the Holy Spirit He was anointed with, without measure of what it would be.

We must confess Jesus is the Son of God.

I am sorry for this long post; read it, study it, or ignore it. I love you guys.

God bless,

RLW

John 17:1-5,

Part 7.

Hebrews 4:3 references Psalm 95, which describes the Israelites' journey with Moses through the wilderness, enduring dunes, rocky paths, and scarce food and water. Those who did not remain faithful, trusting in God's promise, did not enter God's rest. This passage stresses faith and the rest God has promised to those who, in faith, overcome the trials of this life filled with challenges, temptations, and struggles.

Revelation 3:5 shows us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ. We cannot earn our salvation through our actions; rather, this rest is dependent on accepting the grace and redemption offered in Christ, works that were finished from the foundation of the world.

Revelation 13:7-8 states that all who dwell on the earth will worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. This time is still to come; only true believers will be able to resist this hour of temptation that is foretold in Revelation 3:10. We see this same language in the concept that the Lamb was slain before the foundation of the world.

The challenge and reward are found in Revelation 2:7 and Revelation 13:9-10, "He who has ears, let him hear." We can read and study the Bible without grasping the truth of its message for different reasons, truth comes from prayer. Our ears are connected to our eyes; if we cannot hear, we are also blind.

We have these verses to consider.

Before being ordained, Jeremiah 1:5, Acts 13:48, 1 Corinthians 2:7, Ephesians 2:10, Galatians 1:15

The foreknowledge of God, Acts 2:23, Ephesians 3:9, Colossians 1:26-27, 1 Peter 1:2, 1 Peter 1:20

Predestination, Acts 4:27-28, Romans 8:29-30, Ephesians 1:5, Ephesians 1:10-12

God's plan.

2 Kings 19:25, Psalm 33:11, Isaiah 14:27, Isaiah 22:11, Isaiah 25:1, Isaiah 37:26, Isaiah 46:10, Jeremiah 29:11.

See last part 8

John 17: 1- 5,

Part 6

Trust and dependence on the Son of God, believing in His sacrifice on the cross and His resurrection, Romans 5:8-10. Titus 1:2 states that God has promised eternal life to us from before creation, but it is our future hope in Jesus through faith, as seen in Romans 1:16. This hope has been established for us in Jesus before time; this hope is eternal life. It is not seen or enjoyed now; that is not hope, Romans 8:24-25.

Is Jesus praying for just the disciples or also future believers? This was determined before the foundation of the world, as we see in John 14:3, and Paul confirms it in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18. We will see the glory of Christ that the Father has given Him when He returns to establish the kingdom.

Ephesians 1:4 tells us that God chose us in Jesus Christ before the foundation of the world, and salvation was part of God's plan. The word " chose, " from the Greek word eklego, means to pick out for oneself, to choose, elect, or select. God's plan and purpose for humanity was for us to have eternal life in Jesus Christ.

1 Peter 1:19-20 explains that Jesus, through His obedience to the Father and His sinless life as a lamb without blemish and spot, shed His blood for us. This was foreordained before the foundation of the world. The word " foreordained " is derived from the Greek word proginosko, meaning to know beforehand, representing the foreknowledge of God, a plan manifested in the last times for us. Various verses refer to the foundation of the world, meaning from the creation of the earth and humanity.

Matthew 25:34 speaks of the glory in God's plan, in the mind of God, encompassing all things from beginning to end, something we as humans cannot fully comprehend. We see the culmination of this verse in Revelation 20:11-15.

See part 7.

John 17:1-5,

Part 5.

5, And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

On the surface, it can be seen that Jesus is asking to be glorified by the Father with the glory He shared before creation, indicating the eternal nature of Christ, who existed before time began. Does Philippians 2:6-8 justify this request? Jesus, for His obedient earthly ministry, He rightfully deserves?

Does all of Scripture agree with this? We have these verses with similar wording. Were the things in these verses physically present before the world was? Were they all in the mind, thoughts, and the plan of God? Can we say some were and some were not? Are they confirmation of God's eternal plan and foreknowledge?

Verses that say before the world was, before the world, and before the foundation of the world. God's foreknowledge, purpose, and plan were before creation.

1 Corinthians 2:7 This wisdom is the gospel of Jesus Christ, hidden in the thoughts of God from before the world was. It was ordained from before the world that would be revealed in the fullness of time, as stated in Ephesians 1:10 and Colossians 1:26-27. There are hints of it throughout the Old Testament, but hidden from the Gentile world, it is now revealed through the preaching of the apostles who were with Jesus from the beginning of His three-and-a-half-year ministry, and Paul, after the leaders of Jerusalem said no to Jesus being the Messiah and killed Stephen, Acts 7:54-60.

2 Timothy 1:9 Our calling and salvation are given not by anything we have done or can do to earn. It is according to God's grace and for His purpose. This grace, which was given to us in Jesus, is part of God's plan before the world began, as we see in Ephesians 2:8-10 and Romans 8:28-29.

Salvation through Jesus Christ is available to everyone who accepts it, it is received by faith in Jesus Christ, the Son of God alone.

See part 6.

John 17:1-5,

Part 4.

4. I have glorified thee on the earth: I have finished the work which thou gavest me to do.

Jesus tells His Father He has finished the work that the Father gave Him to do. Jesus was obedient to the Father in everything; He lived a life doing the Father's will, not His own, John 4:34, John 5:30. Jesus glorified His Father by living a sinless life, fulfilling the law, and completed the works of the Father by the Spirit of God, John 14:10.

He manifested His Father's love, goodness, justice, mercy, and truth, as Jesus in John 14:7-11 told the disciples, if you have seen me, you have seen the Father, I am in the Father, and the Father in me, the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works. Later in this chapter, Jesus says more than once, "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me and I in thee, that they also may be one in us', "that they may be one, even as we are one".

Jesus knows He must face His crucifixion, and stating that He has glorified the Father and fulfilled His work is not a boast but a reflection of His love and dedication to God's purpose. Jesus prays this prayer in front of His disciples to demonstrate the importance of obedience, emphasizing that all we do is to glorify God.

See part 5.

Part 3.

3, And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

This is one powerful verse: "And this is life eternal." This was the primary purpose of Jesus' mission: the immortality of the Father came to earth, manifested in Jesus, and eternal life which God the Father alone possesses, 1 Timothy 6:16.

God was revealed in the flesh of His only Son, Jesus. What is eternal was manifested in the world and is now available to us. This eternal life is given that we might know the only true God and His Son Jesus Christ, whom His Father sent, 1 John 4:7-16.

There are 38 times in the gospels where Jesus said God sent Him, the most expressive is in John 7:16-29. When Jesus was sent, it was first for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, Matthew 15:24, at the fullness of time, for those under the law, Galatians 4:4-5. This was part of God's plan from the beginning and happened at the fullness of time.

In 1 John 5:20, John says Jesus gave them understanding that they should know the Son of God, the Messiah has come, and that we should know the true God, and we are in Him, the true God, and in the Son of Him that is the only God from whom eternal life comes. Paul says the same in 1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. God, the Father, of whom are all things, "of whom are" Greek ek" or "ex" indicates the origin or source. "Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, Greek dia ho, he, to pas, on the account of Jesus are all things.

See part 4.

John 17:1-5,

Part 2.

2, As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

Jesus confirms that the Father has given Him power over all humanity and that, through His redemptive work, God grants eternal life to all those whom He has given to Jesus. Jesus understood the Scriptures, including what had been said about Him and what He would do and suffer, as illustrated in Isaiah 53:1-12. This indicates that all of humanity has been entrusted to

Christ, beginning with the lost sheep of Israel, and that anyone who believes in Jesus will not perish but will have eternal life.

This was God's plan to make salvation possible, man had to pay the penalty, the only way humanity can be reconciled to Him, as indicated in John 14:6. The word " power " is derived from the Greek word " exousia, " meaning authority. Through the Spirit of God, He granted His power and authority to Jesus Christ over humanity, John 3:34-35, John 5:26-27, Acts 10:38.

The Holy Spirit enabled Jesus to speak the words the Father had given him to speak, John 14:24. After God raised Jesus from the dead, the Father placed all heaven and earth under Jesus, Matthew 28:18, Ephesians 1:19-23, and Philippians 2:9-11.

Jesus's mission was to do the will of the Father. In John 5:19-23, Jesus says He can do nothing by Himself, same in John 5:30. God has committed all judgment unto the Son. The word committed is the Greek word didmi, to give, to grant, to bestow; it was deliberately transferred to Jesus to do the will of the Father who sent Him.

This highlights God's plan being fulfilled, emphasizing Jesus' role as the Messiah appointed and given authority by the Father.

See part 3.

John 17:1-5.

Part 1

John 17:1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:

Jesus has come to the end of His earthly mission, the time of His crucifixion has come near, John 13:1. Jesus said, "glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:" Jesus has been obedient to His Father and has finished what He was sent to do, except for the last hours of left in Passover day when He will suffer and die.

The words that Jesus spoke are written in John 13 through John 16; all five chapters were written about while they were in the room where they had the Last Supper. He lifted His eyes to heaven. Jesus was praying to the Father, and the disciples were there. Judas left just before Jesus started this prayer. Jesus is in the upper room just before going to the Garden of Gethsemane. Jesus prays for Himself, his disciples, and all future believers.

His hour had come, as He said in Luke 22:15-16, He desired to eat this Passover before He suffered, but He would not be there to eat it. And in John 12:23, He said the hour had come that He should be glorified. In John 7:33-39, Jesus spoke of the Holy Spirit that those who believe in Him will receive, but it has not been given yet because Jesus was not yet glorified/resurrected. God glorified Jesus when He raised Jesus from the dead in His glorified body. We will also be raised in a body fashioned like His, Philippians 3:21.

Jesus knew what He would have to endure later that day: death on the cross. In this prayer, we can see Jesus' love for his disciples and his desire for them to remain in faith and purpose. His emotions in this prayer intensified in the garden, as reflected in Matthew 26:38-43 and Luke 22:40-44. All that Jesus did throughout His mission on earth was to glorify God, showing us the importance of glorifying God in all our actions.

See part 2

I looked at the comments to see what others thought about what went on in Judges chapter twenty.

I found no mention of the chapter.

Interesting commentary but way off topic in my opinion.

Hi Valmar.

This is another one of those complicated scriptures that is highly debated.

I would like to share my understanding on this passage of scripture taking it from verse 13 through verse 21. ( 1 Peter 3:13-21 )

Many associate 1 Peter 3:19-20 with Ephesians 4:8-9.

I don't hold the view that they have anything to do with one another.

Ephesians 4:8-9 there's no preaching involved.

I believed when Christ ascended he led captivity captive. "The old testament Spirits/Saints out of Abraham's bosom.

In 1 Peter the question is "When, Where and How did the preaching take place"?

I believe that answer is in verse 20. (During days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing.)

The Holyspirit presented the Gospel through Noah for 120 years in the building of the Ark.

Peter os identifying them as Spirits as who they are today as "these people who ridiculed Noah while building the Ark.

Hebrews 11:7 says "By faith Noah prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world,

This seems to fit the context of the previous verses. ( 1 Peter 3:13-18. )

Noah suffered for well doing, and so did Christ.

Blessings.

a woman activates a new amended law the old law was to stone em

Jesus 's new revised law is to 'Forgive do it no more' huge differance

he was writing on the ground as if on the face of the earth,for all on the face of the earth

similar to how his dad had initially done it

as the new amendment was put into action

Richard

Pt. 2

My feelings reminded me of Romans 8:22-24 where it says that "all creation groans" to be made new and uncorrupted and we groan inwardly to put on the newness of what we will be in the resurrection. In the mean time, we walk in Christ, desiring to know and do God's will always. Yet we cannot always know clearly what His will is nor do we obey perfectly. The time will come in eternity when we will always know God's will and will be able to do it. But for now we live within our present limitations.

This musing made me think of you as you consider what to do with your father's home, with whether or not you move back to where you lived and were employed before you came to take care of your parents. You have so much to decide and I know that you want to do what God wills. So, I will be praying for you to know way God wants you to decide and to move forward. We can comfort each other in knowing that the time for us to enter eternity will come to pass when God calls us home. Oh, how glorious that will be. But for now, we keep walking by faith, trusting the Holy Spirit to help us each step of the way.

I just wanted you to know that I was thinking of you today when I got into this yearning and musing and that I continue to pray for you often.

Hi Richard,

These verses in 1 Peter have posed a quandary for me for many years. I can see support for many of the other interpretations than mine here. And even with mine, the fallen angels that sinned before the flood with humans may or may not have been with the procreation of hybrid beings with human women. It likely entailed far more than just this or maybe other evil than procreation with human women. But whatever way they sinned it resulted in rapidly corrupting the human race to such an extent that God needed to cleanse the earth, its creatures, and the human race of the wickedness they brought into it and the wickedness done by humans by their own devising and by the influence of these fallen angels.

On another topic that I planned to share with you today, I was hoping to bring it forward.

Yesterday was a beautiful day here in the Pacific Norhtwest. Sunny-75 degrees. Perfect weather! And today, it rained all day and was much cooler. It is very typical of spring weather here. So, I was driving home today from errands and began to think about how I would love it is every day was like yesterday. I know that in this life, this won't be so. I know that in so much of our country has had storms and tornadoes. And there have been several powerful earthquakes this last week or so, as you mentioned.

It got me thinking somewhat wistfully with a longing for having perfect moments that last forever characterized by peace, restfulness, contentment, beauty, joy, love, blessedness and all other such real things. I know that I cannot have this in this life. And so I was led to long for the time in eternity when we will have ALL in Christ in actuality. How wonderful it is to contemplate how rich we are in Christ as to our inheritance kept for us in heaven. This yearning is common for me and I think that many believers also feel this way over and over again during their walk with the Lord in this life with all its wickedness and corruption.

see part 2

Dear Ruben,

Thank you for coming here again to ask for prayer. I do pray for you when you do. I am glad that you desire better things for your life in regards to obedience to God and deliverance from sinful ways. May we all desire these for ourselves as strongly and persistently as you do.

Your explanation was better than mine; I would expect wicked men not of the descendants of the Nephilim would have been aware as Revelation states everyone under the earth praises God eventually. I'm pretty distracted these days so glad you are filling in.

Meant to say, "but not them".

Telling the wicked "sons of god" that they were not included in God's redemption most likely was met not only with derision towards Jesus, hating Him, and no remorse for their sin, but with them doubling down on their rejection of God's will despite their agony and torment in this place of imprisonment.

I imagine that Jesus' voice sounded like John heard it in Revelation, and His Presence their was overwhelmingly painful for these spirits. They knew that He had all the authority and dominion and determiner of their end, which will be the lake of fire.

Hello VALMAR

Welcome back. This passage in 1 Peter 3:19-20 (and on to verse 22) has been given a handful of interpretations over the centuries of the church age.

I just finished reading a number of commentaries as well a few articles that outlined the history of interpretations for this passage.

I would suggest you do as I did and read some articles about this passage to help you come to your own conclusion on what this passage means.

For me, because of the specific words and language used in this passage I tend to agree that:

----After Jesus' death, He either in His divinity as Spirit, if before the resurrection, or, in His glorified resurrection body, went to

the place where the sinful, wicked sons of god (angels) that infiltrated and brought ruin to the human race in Gen. 6 by

procreating with human women were imprisoned ( 1 Peter 2:4-5, Jude 6) from the time of the flood onward.

----Since the text in 1 Peter 3:19-20 speaks of "spirits" who are imprisoned, but then speaks of "souls" who were saved, I think

that the Holy Spirit was distinguishing between "spirits" (angels) and "souls" (humans).

----That Jesus informed these evil angels about the victory He won over them forever by means of the cross and the shedding of

His blood, despoiling them of any authority they may have had, but now they have been made subject to Jesus Christ (1

Peter 3:22, Col.1:15, 2:15).

----The exact time this occurred is unclear. It may have been between His death and resurrection or between the resurrection

and His going to the Father after speaking with Mary in the garden ( Jn 20:14-17) or when He ascended 40 days after He

resurrected.

----The purpose of Jesus going to the place of imprisonment was to proclaim His pre-eminence, the surety of their judgment,

and to preach the gospel of how He saved the elect humans through His suffering and death (they may not have been aware

of this prior to His visit), but them.

Isaiah 41;10-Fear thou not;for I am with thee; be not dismayed; for I am thy God; I will strengthen thee; yea, I will help thee, I will uphold thee with the right hand of my righteousness. Mary, you are very much loved. The loss of a loved one is a very difficult time to get through. Hang in there and let Jesus guide you. He will never leave you.

Jesus preached to those who were in the prison as lost souls in Sheol. The others were apparently set free ( Ephesians 4:8; Matthew 27:52-53) who were righteous saints of God in the pleasant side of Sheol. The old state of the afterlife consisted of a separate area of peace from one of torment as we see in the parable of Lazarus and the rich man ( Luke 16:19-31). Now when a believer dies he or she goes right to be with the Lord ( 2 Cor. 5:8).

Hope that helps.

Agape; Rich P

Well, I guess I haven't posted in so long that the processes have changed somewhat. I was looking for discussion posts on 1 Peter chapter 3, and these postings appeared. Few have 1 Peter referenced, and even fewer are from chapter 3. Although I find the discussions presented interesting, they don't address the verses of interest I was looking for, namely v.19-20. Perhaps I'll try back at a later time. Have a peaceful Sabbath to you all.

Hi Brother Giannis.

I meant to say "whatever is required of us by God is initiated or accomplished by the blessing of Abraham that comes to us through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through FAITH not by command. Galatians 3:12-14.

This promise of the Spirit is the same Spirit/Holyspirit that will cause Israel to walk in God's statutes, and keep his judgments, and do them as a nation. ( Future)

Ezekiel 36:26-27.

The Spirit of God works in the believer the same way today.

I believe this is what Paul is saying in Romans.

God bless.

Amen.

Matthew 19:17 "And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments."

Revelation 22:14 "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."

Several things I've learned.

I will stay significantly vague here but a young man with a disability online mentioned how we don't get out of our comfort zones quite often. As for my circumstances I have put much significance into being rather self contained up until about a month ago first taking care of my ailing mother then dealing with my father's dementia. This has affected me as to routines and focus being at home and thankfully the AWANA program and possible future outreach at my church can get me out and about along with the support of friends.

With all the concerns of my mom's estate and handling my dad's affairs including ways I could sell the house and legal implications I hadn't even considered the value long term of me having the house to allow missionaries and other Christians to stay here although I did consider a friend of mine moving in and paying rent. Reading today's verse from Luke 14 I believe reading the chapter showed me how we indeed must give all things up for the Kingdom which also could be opening up my home (one can think of Matthew after Jesus called him having a feast at his home).

The last thing is that I realize whether I stay here or go anywhere else it isn't just what I do in number of Christian activities but where my heart is in all of this. The other factors above must weigh into this at well. My friend here has been helpful and discerning of my life in meeting my father as being rather broken and shattered and I told her that has helped me be sensitive to others who are hurting; but healing is in His wings ( Malachi 4:2). A general observation I have noticed lately is that many who have great potential and are very compassionate are compromised and sometimes just lazy about spiritual matters; and that includes church attendance as backed up from my friend's observations of her daughter in law the only believer in the family and this attitude has spread to her kids.

In the flesh we are all worse than anyone knows.

Hello Jesse,

Thanks for all the wonderful information you give concerning greek words.

I agree that Jesus is God, came from God, and remained God while also human.

I believe the incarnation this way. The Son, who always has been Divine with the Father and the Holy Spirit, was sent by the Father to be our Savior in the flesh. In eternity past, the Son's constitution was as Spirit, just like the Father and the Holy Spirit.

When the Father sent the Son, it was the Person of the Son who took on humanity with all of its aspects. I do not believe that the Son indwelled an existing human person. Rather, I believe that the Person of Jesus Christ took upon His divinity a humanity as a nature, therefore having two natures but being only one Person, not two persons in one human body.

Therefore, I believe we worship one Person as our Savior not two persons, a divine and another human Person.

And I believe that this One Person, Jesus Christ, had two distinct natures that were united in this one body but the natures were not mixed so as to possess a third type of nature of human/divine. Rather, I believe that Jesus had a human nature and a divine nature who abided in His one human body, being only and always, the divine Person of the Godhead, and never a second human person He took over with His divinity.

If He put Himself as a divine person into an existing human person, we would have two persons as our Savior.

I realize this is somewhat a technical matter, but I think it is very important to clarify. Jesus was God with us as a Person who indwelt a human body, not another person who was human.

I look forward to the rest of your postings on Hebrews as, next to Romans, it is one of my favorite Epistles and it is packed with so much doctrine that truly matters in our life and worship of our God and Savior.

Blessings to you today.

Hello Spencer.

There are many interpretations of the specific verses, Rom 8:9-11. Many consider that the Spirit of Christ in verse 9 is the Holy Spirit. I will not argue to that although I do not hold this interpretation. I just wanted to give emphasis on how important is for one to be obedient to God's Word/commandements. it is essential for our salvation. We have been called to follow Jesus' footsteps in our life. And Jesus walked along God's commandements. It is the only way which goes to Heaven. GBU

(Hebrews Part 3b):

Hebrews 1:4 Continued:

Who being the brightness of His glory. The word brightness is literally translated out beam from the word APAUGASMA which means the out beam of His glory. It can be described by taking a flashlight to the back of a dark room and shining it on a wall at the opposite side of the room. You can get a concept in your mind about what God did when He travelled through and projected Himself through the time/space factor, and took up residency in the person of Christ, yet while being God. APAUGASMA is the same word used for a projector, or for a flashlight shining. As it projects, there's an out beam, and you can see whatever image is being projected. This would be the out beam, and what you see on the slide would be the image.

If you combine APAUGASMA with EICON, which is the word image, it's the same terminology in the Greek language that is talking about your source of light and power remaining the same. This is telling us that Jesus Christ is the projection of God through the time space barrier, and He has taken up residency amongst us as human beings, while never being separate from the source.

This is the function of God. He is the APUAGASMA of His glory, the out beam of glory, the projection of the glory of God through time and space, becoming one of us, while never leaving or being separated from the source, God Himself.

The term for "express image" in Verse 3 is the word CHARAKTER. It's where we get our English word character from. What this is saying is that God has projected Himself through the time/space factor, and the image that was projected is the exact representation and image and substance of God. That's why Jesus said if you've seen me, you've seen the Father. The Father and I are one!

Lastly, His provision. When he had by Himself purged our sins, and the word when is literally translated after. It's an Aorist Participle. Please notice that it says by Himself. Nobody else but Jesus cleansed our sins.

(Hebrews Part 3a):

Hebrews 1:3 - Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;

Where it says the right hand of the Majesty on high, in the Greek text the word hand is not there. It literally reads He sat down on the right of the majesty on high. This shows a position of authority. He's the inheritor. He's the creator. And He's the ruler of all things.

Hebrews 1:4 - Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

Some might call this rank. His rank is above the angels. He's inherited a name that is better than they. The author is not saying that the name Jesus Christ is better than they (even though we know that's true), but he's talking about the name Son.

Of the four comparisons that he makes, the Son is the inheritor of all things. Did any of the prophets inherit the things of God? He's the creator of all things. None of the prophets created the world. He's the ruler of all things. He's now seated in the position of authority, and He is in rank the Son. He's obtained a name that is greater than the angels. So, we have Him as inheritor, creator, ruler, and rank.

If you go back to Verse 3, there are four characteristics of the Son. And these are participles in the text, which means that this Son that sat down on the right of the throne of God, He was in existence at the time, with these four things:

(Hebrews Part 2b):

Hebrews 1:2 Continued:

God has spoken to us. His last spokesperson, the last instrument that God used to minister to us, is His Son. It's very important to see the contrast between the superiority of Jesus Christ in comparison to the prophets. Those days are over. There are no more messages to various people. So, upon, or during the last part of the last days, God spoke to us in a Son. There's no more speaking to us through the prophets, or various items. In His Son, He has the last word.

It goes on to say, "by whom also He made the worlds." The word "worlds" is literally the word ages, which denote epics of time, stages of time in history. So, first of all we had Him as the inheritor. Now He is the creator. He's the one through whom God created all things.

John 1:3 tells us that all things were made by Him, and without Him was not anything made that was made. He is the inheritor of all things. He is the creator of all things.

(Hebrews Part 2a):

Hebrews 1:2 - Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

In these last days seems like it's just another phrase that we see throughout the bible. But in the Greek text, it's literally translated upon the last of these days. It's found in Daniel 10:14 and the Jews would know what it means by the phrase upon the last of these days. The believing Jews knew that we were in the last days, and we still are today. But on the last part of the last days, God has done something different.

Upon the last of these days, God hath spoken to us. And there are two things about the literal translation. The word "by" is the word in. And if you notice in the bible, the word his is in italics. There is no word his in the original text. And then it's the name Son. Why doesn't it say his Son, or in the Son? It's because he's showing contrast of instruments that God uses. When we get to Chapter 2, he will name the Son, who is Jesus Christ.



So, He was in the prophets, speaking at various times, and in various ways, but has upon the last of the last days, spoken to us in Son. What this is saying is that in the last days, the instrument that God uses is not the prophets, not various other ways like a burning bush, but He has upon the last segment of these last days spoken to us in a Son.