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When will Israel be forgiven at the second event

Please explain

Well written Charley - great Scriptures.

That's a good observation & worthy of consideration, Maria. In Revelation 1:10, we see John being found "in the spirit on the Lord's Day" & then in the next verse, Jesus tells him, "What thou seest write in a book".

I have always imagined that the Lord wanted John to see & learn things of Heaven & of future events, & what he saw should be published for the benefit of the "seven Churches", which of course comes as a pressing warning & concern to us today. So I see John caught up in a 'trance', not as in the occult or Hinduism, where human faculties are overpowered by spirits, but in a Holy Spirit induced vision of the 'other world & of Earth's future'. If John's spirit left his body to enter Heaven, you would be right to assume that he faced a temporary 'death', but I somehow don't see that as what happened here.

And in that vision, he was given all that the Lord Jesus wanted to reveal to him & subsequently to reveal to us. He not only heard the Voice of Jesus, but saw in graphic detail (with imagery) the events that "would shortly come to pass" ( Rev 1:1). So I don't see John spiritually or physically in Heaven, but the vision given to Him was so real (as when one has a vivid dream prior to waking up), that he must have believed he was standing before the Lord. What an experience, which one day will be ours.

No comments? Well then, maybe Romans 19:14, 1 Timothy 2:7 & 2 Timothy 2:11 might give some help.

Is Ephesians 4:11 what you're thinking of?

Both Psalm 91 and 1 Thessalonians 4:14-18 are precious as they are both found in God's Word. Amen.

Thanks Richard !

First off I am what I am by the grace of God . I'm a very different person now then before . I trust the Lord to be my judge on how I serve him .

God is love at heart , but trust me he can be terrifying as well . So better to be on Gods good side because he is going to destroy his enemies.

I can tell you have very little knowledge of the Bible in truth . But that's nothing unusual these days . Keep at it and always pray to God in Jesus name that He teach you and make you what he wants you to be . His will not ours , like the lord Jesus said and did !

When I first started reading the Bible , all I knew was it was the truth and Gods word .

They said a lot of bad things about the Lord and we will get it to . Fear not man but God .

If, from your request, you are seeking a verse to show the utter destruction of mankind, then we only see God's Hand that does it. Whether in particular judgements (as in the history of Israel, where God judged both Israel & the nations that opposed her) or in the outpouring of God's Wrath, as in the Great Tribulation & final judgement, reconciling all unbelievers into the Lake of Fire, is when we see such annihilation. I don't believe that there will be a worldwide extermination of mankind through of the efforts of man, as opposed to man's instigation of wars & skirmishes which results in many deaths.

Is this kjv bible and specifically 1611 version any way revised wording to match current times or is this exactly how the actual physical bible reads?

Zechariah 4:6 and Matthew 24:13 have those words but not together as you seek.

If you understand that God said this is my beloved Son! What more does a person need ?

Even though the Israelites murmured against God, he still showed them love and provided for them.

Verse 5:The Egyptians still failed to respect and fear the true God. The were still selfish in their reasoning.

Verse 5:Sacrifices to God must be unblemished and we should give God our very best.

Verse 3:Pharaoh's lack of humility was his downfall and if we don't develop the quality of humility we will experience downfall as well.

Verse 3:Jehovah God allowed Pharaoh's heart to become hard but Pharaoh had many chances to adjust his attitude.

Galatians 6:17. The statement by Paul: let no man trouble me I guess that is what should be explained first

Verse 11: We often place limits on ourselves, but Jehovah God can equip us for any task that we need to accomplish.

Hello! Where is the scripture in the King James Version that states, "It is not by power not by strength but to those who endures to the end.

Verse 7:God takes note of the affliction of his people and he will act in their behalf.

same because i love god and he is still alive

Verse 12:Moses wanted to help his people but he went about it the wrong way. We must do things God's way if we truly want to be successful.

Verse 17:The Hebrew midwives feared God more than man and this kept them from becoming blood guilty.

God is not mad at you:

And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. ( 2 Corinthians 5:18-19)

Though innocent, the Lamb of God Jesus suffered exceedingly:

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds. ( Hebrews 12:2-3)

Faith endures:

...And others had trial of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and imprisonment: They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being destitute, afflicted, tormented; (Of whom the world was not worthy:) they wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and caves of the earth. And these all, having obtained a good report through faith, received not the promise: God having provided some better thing for us, that they without us should not be made perfect. (from Hebrews 11)

Jesus said:

These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world. ( John 16:33)

The LORD has a wonderful purpose in trials and suffering:

That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ: Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory: Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. ( 1 Peter 1:7-9)

Indeed to find the Bible verse that says man will destroy hisself

"I[Jesus] am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last" Revelation 1:11

"I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Revelation 1:8

Listen to the Scriptures: Ephesians 4:4-6 ( v.5 ) one baptism. 1st Corinthians 12: 12-27. Ephesians 5:30 Trust the Holy Spirit for direction not man, man has opinion The Word ( Bible ) has facts 1st Corinthians 2:9-14. Also our Lord talks about the Holy Spirit John 14: 16-26 and John 16:7-15. You have to do your part 2nd Timothy 2:15. Hope it helps.

God will never forsake us his children. He is so gracious to answer our prayers. It doesn't matter how big or how little our problems are, he is always there to forgive and help. I just needed to be reminded of Psalms 3 today. He is the lifter of our heads. We are not to bow down to this world because we are not of this world. David knew his God and how he had come through for him in the past from the time he was a little boy. WE HAVE A HISTORY with God. We KNOW he can do anything for us because of that. He may not answer right then and he may not answer how we want, but rest assured he will answer and it will be the right answer and the right time. I can look back when I lost my mother, father and brother in less than 7 months and my father and brother in less than a week. God's timing was perfect as each one stepped out of this world. If you are not saved reading this, I would ask you to just believe in Jesus and ask him to save you. He will do that for you because you are loved by him and you are important to him.

rapture isn't, but Psalm 91 Is AMEN

An observation:

Revelation 5: Did John leave his body at Patmos & went up in his spirit when he saw the throne? Did he entered heaven???? If so, then his body with no spirit would be left lifeless & would later come back to his body & return to life. Or was He filled with the spirit & had a vision of the throne through the open door & saw the revelation of things to come from the scrolls but was not actually in heaven???