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Like how v 16 conforts the soul, that judgment will be found dwelling in the wilderness along with the righteousness of the field.

I'm an old street preacher too. Lately I have noticed unique ways people distribute Chick Tracts and others:

Outside of a goodwill store I saw one on top of a trash can. Looked brand new. First I almost wept because someone threw away Gods Word. Got in my car and was praying out the pain; and I saw someone throw paper in the can and pick up the tract and take it with them.

I see tracts on the sidewalk (out of the foot traffic somewhat) and people pick them up!!

I've seen them on park or bus benches.

I know street ministry is still alive and well!

Almost everyone will read a Chick comic type booklet. They're inexpensive too.

I know they pray over them and ask God to lead people to them. He is the Lord of the Harvest! I hope more people will do this.

There's even space on it to write your Church's name and address on it.

Then be praying for your Pastor to hear from God every time he prays and gets his sermon ready for whatever day your Church chooses to assemble on.

Makes me think of John 3:8

The wind Blows where it listeth , and Thou hearest the sound thereof, but cannot tell where it comes from or where it goes; so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

All of us older folks should bless the church teens with what they need to spread some love around the neighborhood; if the Church will allow it.

If you scroll down to the 1-100 pages of comment history, in past months; you will find many comments about the catching away (caught up in the clouds).

Removal of dead and the now living Church of Jesus. Write down all the scriptures given so you can study it too.

I was sorry to read of your 'thorn in the flesh'. I'm sure that His measure of Grace to you thus far has kept you strong both physically & spiritually. I will lift you up before His Throne in prayer, to be included with the other "vials full of odours, which are the prayers of the saints".

Our early Christian ministry on the street sound similar, as I too, with a team from the Fellowship back in the early '80s, 'hit the streets' with preaching, singing, tract distribution & personal sharing. It was based & styled on the work of Open Air Campaigners (OAC). And yes, it was difficult then as we received verbal abuse & being spat upon, but we knew our messages were vital to the many on their way to entertainment & eventually to hell. I remember one ex-pastor of a C of C saw me sharing the word on the street. He quickly looked away, I imagine embarrassed & convicted, as I heard that he had left the Lord & his wife & had another woman in his arms. Maybe at the sight of us standing for the Lord might have brought him back to the Lord - we don't know.

But street work did get more difficult, with our (Australian) govt. prohibiting this type of work yet allowing devilish music by buskers to sound out in the name of entertaining the passing public. We really felt discouraged & could envisage the seeds of the anti-Christ spirit already at work. Some believers still go out distributing tracts, though my ministry is from home these days & sharing one-to-one as the opportunity arises (mainly to RCs). Your marching about with a Cross was a bold witness indeed. I remember a dear brother (now with the Lord), who had a billboard strapped to his front & back with a couple of pertinent challenges to passing motorists - & he perched himself in the centre median strip so all could see the Word. Believers would honk their horns & encourage him! You know Robert, our ministry & zeal will never fade - they just take on a different form as we age & as divinely directed. Blessings to you.

where in the king james verson, that say, even these herbs i give to you?

Going through 3John, I understand that what Diotrephes did in his days has been happening today in our midst. But to do good work is what every Christian must be looking forward to do.

Robert, I think that this thread will be shut down shortly as it's getting too long - I will start a new one, using your name in the first line.

Greg, again, I appreciate your ongoing comments here & fully realize & accept that we both have our own understanding on this matter basing it on the Word.

I think that you will agree that there are many things in the Word that are either not fully explained or require us to make inferences to try & bring together: especially on eschatology, to which there are numerous divergent opinions, many of them well supported. So, my issue is not whether a believer chooses to keep Saturday as their day of rest & worship, to the exclusion of any other day; my concern is to the ramifications of that belief, i.e. if a Saturday (Sabbath) is not recognized, then what is the result to the believer & before God?

Col 2:16: "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days". So, it seems clear that 'in Christ', the believer is free to do a number of things, including appointing his worship day & this should not be a cause for judgement or division. "All are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ". When in ministry in Pakistan, believers there were compelled to have Friday as their day of worship, simply because of the Muslim holy day & generally people worked for six days in the week. This felt strange at first, but it was after all a day set aside to worship the true God & an opportunity to minister. We could have refused to do so, saying that only the Sabbath or a Sunday is holy & to be observed. So I ask, what then are the implications to those who don't keep the Sabbath, just as I have mentioned to those who insist on it ( Gal 3:10-12)? Is it just another sin that is to be repented of, or a divider of those who are granted eternal life & those who are rejected?

I can't get into the 'solar calendar' argument: in the light of my understanding, the actual days are unimportant for worship & it would only lead to a strange observance of days given the calendars we now need to abide with.

May the Lord bless you Tiffan in your spiritual endeavours & your daily walk with Him. Thank you too for your comments: they warmed my heart & revealed your singular desire to love & serve our Great & Loving Father with your whole life. His Spirit rejoices in your devotion to Him. Every blessing.

John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Thanks for your input here; indeed, this is a great place to visit to maybe learn more of God's Word or even to share your thoughts & revelations from the Spirit. Though our discussions can get quite 'spirited' at times, hopefully keeping them in the bounds of holiness & decency. I too have used KJBOnline often, as my 'Go To' when working on a message at my desk, but became interested further when checking out the Discussions Tab: a great way to share, learn & even unknowingly, helping someone struggling in their faith - it can become quite an effective ministry if soaked in prayer & the Spirit's guidance. The Lord bless you too & trust that your eye issue will be sorted out.

what was the main point in St. Luke 2:39-52?

That was an interesting read; thanks for your insights into this very important teaching.

For Gloria and those interested, Every man and "Womb"man or woman have their own spirit or Ghost. Jesus is different, He has the same spirit or ghost as His father, so even though they are two people and have life in themselves, they are the totally connected by the one spirit. How many times have you heard "That boy is just like his father", well Jesus is so much like His father that He is His father only in a visible form. All things were created through "the Son" and He visited, walked and talked on the earth long before He was known as Jesus. This is important for JW's etc to understand as it will transform the way they read scripture in the King James and answer many questions for those who do not understand the deity of God and free them from the watchtower society views and its alteration of scripture due to not understanding the simplicity of Gods dominion. Father who cannot be seen (way too big), Son who can be seen..creator..visitor...saviour....same spirit.. same in every way..

Regarding Noah and those critters who went in two and two, if you read carefully, you will find there were 4 of every kind, two females and two males, except for the ones who were 7 boys and 7 girls. The ark was the size of a modern aircraft carrier from world war 2. It could easily carry all those animals and have a whole deck just for people. Amazing stuff for his day. Imagine looking at that ark all finished after around 110 years work...Phew..all done ..nearly.

This is not Ecclesiastes, this is Ecclesiasticus, see the difference?

Kathy F. The Most High calls us a treasure. You are a treasure and a precious gem to HIM. When you've received a gift is it on display or is it neatly wrapped with a beautiful ribbon. How do you dress if you were going to have dinner with the president? How would you dress if you were going to have dinner with some one you respected and looked up to. You would dress with respect for yourself respect for the person whom you're having dinner with. Let the holy spirit teach you how to dress. I've never seen a princess running around half naked. You don't have to dress like every one else modesty is beautiful!!!!

12 And they brought the young man alive, and were not a little comforted. Acts 20:12

Translation, please.

Chris,

I appreciate your comments and thoughts on this matter.

The many different views and ideas that come from this type of discussion are valuable to the overall understanding of Scripture.

I will leave you with this concerning the Seventh Day vs. the First Day.

I will hold to my understanding that if God or Jesus wanted us to change His day of rest, They would have made it abundantly clear. Correct interpretation of Scripture will justify a position. Any application to other thoughts or ideas may be welcome, but it cannot alter the interpretation. Inference is not the best way to justify a position. I have to remind myself of this all the time.

If Christ foretold us ALL THINGS ( Mark 13:23), why did He not clearly explain this changing of the 7th day to us as everything else we needed to know was.

Acts 18:4 can be used as an example that after Christ died, and rose from the dead, Paul was continually teaching in the synagogues on every Sabbath day, to both Greeks and Jews.

I believe that there is no particular day in which you worship more than any other day. That is a 7 day a week plan.

I believe that one day out of seven (the 7th day) the body should rest (as per instruction by our heavenly Father).

According to our current (Gregorian) 365 day calendar, the days slide (so to speak). For instance, your birthday might be on a Monday this year, but will slide to Tuesday (or possibly Wednesday) the following year.

So then, technically, this year's Sunday was last year's Saturday.

Is it Sunday because we are told so?

Among the findings of the Dead Sea Scrolls was the book of Enoch.

The book of Enoch contains the priestly Solar Calendar (ch. 72, 82). It is a 364 day calendar based on 52 seven day weeks.

It is a perfect solar priestly calendar used by the Israelites for thousands of years. This amazing calendar resets every year.

The DSS are a wealth of (seemingly untapped) information for Biblical students.

in Galatians 6:2 it says "Bear ye one another burdens. in Galatians 6:5 it says " for every man shall bear his own burden." I'm confused.

Isaiah 1 v 13 Comments about the Sabbath and the works of the LAW as in Isaiah 1 v 13. Bring no more Vain oblations, incense unto me ; your new moons and Sabbaths, i cannot, calling of assemblies ( Churches ) I cannot, away with it ; it is iniquity,Even your solemn assembles. Your new moons and your appointed feast my soul Hates.Now Paul said he was afraid of them, they observed Sabbaths and months and times and years they were just like the Israel of old, they honored God with their mouths but their Hearts were far from him Jesus said . Always remember there was none righteous no not one . The LAW was just a school teacher to lead us to Christ. The law was Screaming mankind needed to be bornagain of an incorruptible seed which was the seed of Promise the living WORD OF GOD .Abraham and issac and Jacob pointed to this situation as Issac was the Child of Promise, just as ABRAHAM had to be multiplied in Jacobs seed ( resulting in the nation of israel ) so in Christ seed the H.G will be multiplied in humanity the Israel of God as the field is the world,being bornagain of an incorruptible seed etc We do not need circumcision OF THE FLESH any more nor do we need a 24 hr. sabbath we need circumcision of the HEART and a Sabbath that neva ends ( his kingdom will neva end ) That day of rest IS in CHRIST JESUS HE IS OUR SABBATH DAY WHICH WILL NEVA END. Abide in me and i in you forever an eternal REST. A new Jerusalem which is the Kingdom of God as old Jerusalem was like Hagar and in bondage with her children .

Is the Lord going to come before the Antichrist and Tribulation and us having to take the mark of the beast.

Chris, absolutely! Paul speaks wisely. If we know nothing about Satan and his sudle ways, many of whom , I have watched fall right into his trap. I have said many many times and will always say it, " I am in this world, not of this world". I am not perfect, however, I follow what the bible teaches me, I do not take part of the bible that suit my life. I read and try my best everyday to implement my life according to every word written! Satan has fouled so many over the years, they argue with you bc if they were to not do the things they are doing then they would have to deny their flesh! My eternal life in Heaven is more important than anything or anyone on this earth! Amen, God Bless!

Spirit. John 4:24. God bless you.

I remember at one time in Karachi, Pakistan, my team were out on our daily book sales & tract distribution to Muslims. I wasn't having a good day, so thought to try for a sale at a bookshop. The owner was so interested in my literature, he bought my whole shoulder bag full of books & tracts! So, I went back to the team empty-handed & with praise for what the Lord had done. But, the Lord's Ways were beyond my limited sight at that time. On my way back from that sale, I turned around for some reason & noticed that that wasn't an ordinary bookshop, but was one attached to a Mosque & the central point for the sale of Islamic literature. Had I been aware of this fact, I would have quickly retreated, but the Lord had other plans for me & them. So, the Lord in His Providence had directed me to a Mosque to sell Christian books, they bought everything, they then sold those books unknowingly to other Muslims responding to the call for prayer (i.e. they helped in getting out the Word when I couldn't), & there may well be lost souls now finding the Saviour's Love. Jer 32:27: "Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me?" What an amazing God we serve, Who just needed a pair of hands & legs to get His Word out to those appointed to Life. And a little 'icing on the cake': I got out of there with my life & He also answered our prayers that morning as we had all but run out of cash to survive.

What the Lord can do with His trusting children!"

Awesome! Have you ever wrote this down in article form- like 2 to 5 pages long? I would love to send this out to my email-blast readers in Ohio and beyond. I try to encourage people to share their faith. Most are not risking their lives adn should be willing to share the gospel with those around them but 98% do not share their faith regularly.

"Hi Robert, good to catch up again. I fully realize that we all have many commitments so wasn't expecting any responses, though I had thought about you in the interim & trusted the Lord that you were well. So thanks for the added comments & no, I haven't heard of David Wood - will check him out.

I could use prayer for stomach problems and back. Found out I was born with a mild form of spina bifida and now understand why I started dealing with back issues as early as my early-30's. I will be 53 soon. Prayers appreciated. I do believe God still heals. He did heal me of a problem in my early walk. David's ministry is called Acts17apologetics. he has almost 500,000 subscribers now. maybe you can team up with him on evangelism. He does debates also.

I'm sure you too have many great stories to tell in your encounters with those of other faiths. And all these are not to bring us into the limelight, but all praise to the Lord Who superintends our ways.

My best stories were in my youth. I hit the streets with gospel tracts when I was 16 with two other hippies at that time. People were so much more receptive back then. Hearts are getting hard with many. It's cool when the Holy Spirit shows up with a divine appointment or you get a word of knowledge. I've been doing most of my evangelism online for about 10 years now. Built a 12 x 6 cross in 2007 that we went around with. that was interesting. "Hey, Jesus didn't have a wheel." It opened up doors as people came to you. My zeal isn't where it was when I was younger in the Lord. I want thta back. I think about, "Why bother anymore? People don't care about the things of God or care to repent and come to Christ" and then I think what if Jesus had that attitude int he Garden of Gethsemane? I guess I and maybe you too don't always feel like sharing the gospel but we must press on even on the days we dont' feel like it. Pray for me for more zeal.

This is all I have in response because it all boils down to God's word and faith.

God didn't say to have faith in objects and he speaks against any idolizing of objects.

God said clear and simply trust in him. Through him all things are possible.

If you choose to put your faith into a government organization who uses practice of the khabal for evil and lying about facts, I will pray for you my friend to open your eyes.

Is God a Spirit or human

Thank you Onyekachukwu for your beautiful comment. It is very explanatory. Let me add that the serpent is a very sensitive creature. Though very harmful is wise enough to be able to survive in the most unfriendly habitat. I also think that Jesus Christ was telling us that in a world that is often at variance with the belief and doctrine of the church, we must apply great wisdom just like the serpent often does, to survive without conforming to the world. So when we go out there to fulfil the mandate of the master, chances are that some will definitely resist us. However wisdom demands that we leave quietly when rejected but dust our shoes out there as a witness that they have heard the gospel but rejected it.

In chapter 15 v51 is wrong you put trump when the Bible says trumpet will sound !!! Stop changing Gods world !! Ppl read your paper back this being stating wrong God is not please !!! This is not about Trump!!!! Chapter 15: 52

To God is power,Jesus is love comment above.jesus said ,I have come in my father's name.if you see the son you see the father.Jesus said ,all power is been given to me.for there is no other name under heaven where by we must be saved.Do every thing in word and deed,do everything in the name of Jesus.we pray over the sick in that name.we bless our meals in that name.we suppose to baptize in that name,but a lot of us dont.we need to pray over everything in Jesus name.you see Jesus is the Father,He is the Son and He is the HolySpirit.because these three are One.