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"Biblical Greek Perspectives."

Continuation in Matthew, (Part 8):

Matthew 6:1 - Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.

Here it says to "Take heed," which literally means pay attention. Pay attention that you do not your alms, and the Greek word for alms means acts of mercy. Some transcripts have righteousness.

Matthew 6:9 - After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.

Here's where the Greek enhances the meaning of this verse. Hallowed means sanctify or set apart. Set apart your name in my life today. May your name be glorified and may all that the people see in my life today is your name. May it be represented correctly!

Matthew 6:25 - Therefore I say unto you, take no thought for your life, what ye shall eat, or what ye shall drink; nor yet for your body, what ye shall put on. Is not the life more than meat, and the body than raiment?

Jesus says, "take no thought for your life." This comes from the Greek word MERIMNAO. If you've never heard that word before, it means to occupy the attention of the mind. If we connect this with what the bible teaches, and we take the phrase "take no thought" understanding that it means to occupy the attention of the mind, it shows us that we only have the capacity to serve one thing. So, if our minds are occupied with other things, and we are only supposed to be serving the one person (Christ), we have a problem! In Matthew 6:25-30, Jesus goes on to say, and He mentions three necessities. He says why are you anxious about what you eat, or what you drink, or about your clothing? He says that even if you don't have clothes or food or drink, that we are not to be occupied with it, (MERIMNA).

Matthew 6:27 - Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

Again, the word for "taking thought" is MERIMNA, worries and cares that are occupying the attention of our minds.

Momsage,

As far as I know, I have no German ancestry. I am not German. The word Commandant is also used in the US Military. For instance, in the Marine Corp, their highest ranking officer is called the Commandant of the Marine Corp. The Air Force Academy also has a Commandant. The same for West Point.

I have no guess as to what you're getting at on the spelling of the name Jesse. Most males (as myself) they spell it Jesse. For females, it is usually spelled Jessie.

Blessings to you also!

Bennymkje

Red Dragon

If we analyze deeply Scriptures,we will see there is difference between how was the Devil,the old Serpent,in Adam's time,and how he is in this time of Apocalypse.The difference is great.By the way,the new name of the Devil now is red Dragon.

In the time of Adam,the Devil still hadn't 7 HEADS and 10 HORNS, much less his TAIL.It's important detail.

Re.12:3-4->3 another wonder appeared in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8);behold a great red dragon,having 7 heads and 10 horns,and 7 crowns upon his 7 heads.

4And his TAIL drew the third part of the stars of heaven("drew to the Dragon's Orbit"),and did cast them to the earth:(through the apostasy)

Satan's body started to develop or take shape in the first century of the Church.As time went on(centuries),Satan's body was growing more and more in the WORLD;in Asia,and Europe,frica,Oceania (Australia),North America,Central America and South America,his 7 heads geographically

At the same time, the spirit of antichrist grew within the Churches of the Lord,as is written in 1John 2:18-20,mainly in the Church of Rome,actually the cradle of Antichrist.From there the TAIL of the red Dragon started to growth in the environment of the 7 heads of the Dragon,i.e. in the world at that time

Around 95AD,1st century,the Beast of sea was in the embryo in the belly of the apostate Church of Rome,through Church Satan developed exceedingly his satanic body having 7 heads.John saw that in this current time of Apocalypse,the body of the Beast of sea,whose roots is described in Revelaton 13:2,was complete,having 7 heads,10 horns,and upon his 10 horns 10 crowns, and upon his 7 heads the name of blasphemy

Furthermore,Israel was banned from their land from 70 to 1948AD,i.e. during 1878 years,this terrible event prevented the manifestation of the false messiah before the current time of Revelation, the development of the 10 horns stayed in stand by until this current time.This last event will happen from now on

Get ready

Brother Jesse what I find interesting is as you stated "Jesus the representative of God's love.

That love was displayed on the cross.

If it was a way that Christ would have gave in to Satan when Satan offered Jesus the kingdoms of the world, The unchangeable attribute of God towards the world would have not been displayed or represented on the cross.

There would be no cross.

Also all the sacrifices in the OT that foreshadowed Christ would have been for nothing.

Thank God that his attributes doesn't change and his representation of those attributes doesn't change.

God bless.

Hey Jesse,

Thank you, brother, for your reply I understand we may not agree but if you want to discuss it, I will get back to you tomorrow it is late.

Hello Jaz,

To begin with, there is no evidence that Paul wrote Hebrews. In fact, Hebrews 2:3 would indicate that it probably was not Paul. I can explain that if you wish. We are not told who wrote the book of Hebrews.

But to answer your question, we see Aaron mentioned, and we also see Melchisedec mentioned. But in both Hebrews Chapters 5 and 6, the writer giving us the superiority of Jesus Christ to Aaron.

The writer of Hebrews at the beginning is making a comparison and contrast between Christ and all of the people that the Jews and Hebrews hold to be "special" within the religious system.

Aaron was a family in the tribe of Levi. There were 12 tribes, and you probably know that God commanded that the tribe of Levi, and only the tribe of Levi, should serve in the temple. They are the only ones to serve as priests, and singers, and the attendance in the temple. But specifically, within the tribe of Levi was the family of Aaron. Only those from the family of Aaron directly could serve as high priest.

So, if you wanted to become a priest, if you were not from the tribe of Levi you could not become a priest. And you definitely could not become a high priest unless you were from the family of Aaron.

So, the writer of Hebrews is going to make a contrast between the superiority of Jesus Christ and Aaron, the Aaronic priesthood and the priesthood of Christ.

Sorry if this is not the answer you're looking for, but without knowing why you are asking me this, I'm just left guessing!

Blessings!

Hey S Spencer,

Thanks, brother, I agree God knew all before it ever was and he knew Adam would do what he did, it was part of God's plan the same as Jesus was in His plan, but the sentence of surely die meaning die die was not put on mankind until Adam was disobedient and the sin nature entered him, remember Jesus was manifested to undo the works of the devil.

God bless,

RLW

Hello brother Ronald,

Thanks for sharing your understanding. We do disagree on this one. You mention John 3:34-35 which are very important verses. Literally, that second part of Verse 34 is that God has poured out His Spirit in its fullness upon Christ. He is all God! So, the principle is that He's the only one that has and speaks the words of God. In Colossians 2:9, Paul tells us that in Jesus is all of the Godhead in bodily form, everything there is of God and bodily form! God did not pour out His Spirit by measure but rather in His fullness. In order for me to believe that Jesus could have sinned, I would have to deny His deity. I would have to deny that He is God.

Now, in John 12:49-50 which you gave, I do agree that Jesus is saying these aren't my words. These are the Father's words. And the last half of Verse 50, Jesus says, "whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak." Exact words! Not independent, not on His own, but they are the Father's words. When Jesus came, He didn't represent Himself. He represented God.

I'm sorry, but I do have to disagree with you on "why Jesus's name is called the Word of God." He was not called the word of God because He spoke God's word. There is no correlation between John 3:34-35 and Revelation 19:13.

The word "word" in Revelation 19:13 is the word LOGOS. It is the same word used in John 1:1, and also throughout the beginning of Chapter 1. LOGOS is the Greek word for the word "word." Jesus is called the word because He was the great thinker behind the universe and was already in existence at the time of physical creation. He was always in existence. He was the great thinker behind the universe, and He created all things.

Blessings!

Thanks Brother Jesse, I just read over your material!

That was very helpful.

Thanks again.

God bless.

Hey Brother Ronald.

It appears I did it again!

I left out several consecutive words.

Here's what I meant to say midway through on my previous message.

You asked;

If the first Adam was created with a sinful nature could God say He saw everything was good?

Yes Ronald, Absolutely. He made Adam just the way he planned to make him, and Adam did exactly what was expected. Christ wasn't a afterthought. God knew Adam would sin before he made him.

Thanks again.

God bless.

Hi Ronald.

Thanks for responding.

You said, "Temptation or testing is for an answer to whether someone will be obedient or disobedient,

Ronald here's a silly illustration. When a salesman at a car dealership let's you test drive a car, is he testing to see if the car is obedient? No. He's proving the car is what he say it is.

That's why the Spirit led Jesus into the wilderness to show Jesus is who the father said he was in the previous verse.

Here's how it's read straight through.

And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil. Matthew 3:17 - Matthew 4:1.

You asked, How can one be obedient if they cannot be disobedient?

That would be a good question for you and I.

We have a rebellious nature.

Disobedience is our fleshly nature. That's not so with Christ.

If you have to resist sin, you have a sinful nature. That's not so with Christ.

You asked;

If the first Adam was created with a sinful nature could God say He saw everything.

Yes Ronald, Absolutely. He made Adam just the way he planned to make him, and Adam did exactly what was expected. Christ wasn't a afterthought. God knew Adam would sin before he made him.

That is the long answers I have for you Ronald.

Again, My short answer is, Jesus is God and God cannot sin.

Thanks Brother Ronald,

We both know we don't agree on this.

I just thought it was necessary to give my thoughts.

God bless.

Momsage,

Thanks for the reply. I will say again, I was not necessarily addressing you directly because if I was I would have messaged my reply to you, not Sean Paul. My point was that, just as you might use "whatever" there are many more words or phrases commonly used in our society today that can be used sinfully and we need to be careful of not only our speech but also be sure our intent is not sinful. That is my main point of what I said to Sean Paul. Have a good evening. I think we can exit this discussion now. God bless.

Hey S Spencer,

Thank you, brother, I know we have discussed it before and I think we both respect and care for each other as brothers. I will try not to rehash that discussion forgive me if there is some overlap, but could Christ have sinned your answer is no, I will just use this verse James 1:13, your answer, according to this verse He could not even have been tempted but Jesus was tempted or tested and Jesus stayed obedient to the Father. Temptation or testing is for an answer to whether someone will be obedient or disobedient, Romans 5:19.

1 Timothy 3:16 the word manifest is the Greek word phanero meaning to make visible, make clear. Jesus did that. In the flesh, I ask when did this happen? Did this happen when Mary conceived or when Jesus was anointed with the Holy Ghost and became the Messiah/Christ?

Hebrews 1:1-3 God spoke to us by His Son every word Jesus said was the word of God, not His. Jesus shunned Philip when he asked Jesus to show them the Father, John 14:9-10, every word Jesus said was the Father.

As I have said when God placed Adam in the garden he did not have a sinful nature but he sinned and was disobedient. Jesus was not conceived by man but by the Holy Ghost, Jesus did not have the sinful nature past down by the first Adam, but He was obedient and did not sin.

I did not say anything about the cross but after Jesus prayed in the garden asking the Father if there was any other way Jesus was obedient to the end, being beaten, nailed to the cross, and giving His life for us.

If the first Adam was created with a sinful nature could God say He saw everything He had made, and it was very good? This sinful nature has a sentence of death, and it was after Adam ate the fruit that it was applied, and it spread to all. Adam was the figure of him that was to come, Jesus, the last Adam who by His obedience we have hope. How can one be obedient if they cannot be disobedient? To say Jesus was sinless and obedient becomes a farce.

God bless,

RLW

Re.12:3-4 "The Red dragon" (2 of 2)

Seven heads of the red dragon indicate what this verse signifies, " Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire."(Ps.104:4). God created angels by his breath. " By his spirit he hath garnished the heavens; his hand hath formed the crooked serpent."( Job 26:13). So the Spirit gives the command number Seven a seat in heaven which is tagged as powers, principalities as St Pauls says, "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places."(Ep.6:12)

The tail of the red dragon represents heresies with which one the third of the stars shall be cast off into the earth. "The ancient and honourable, he is the head; and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail./ For the leaders of this people cause them to err; and they that are led of them are destroyed."(Is.9:15-16)

Re.12:3-4 "The Red dragon" (1 of 2)

"And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads./And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth"

Both wonders occur in heaven. This is clearly based on the everlasting covenant." And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness." (Ge.1:4) So both wonders are separated only after the Spirit of God moved on the face of the waters. Darkness which was upon the deep showed resistance knowledge of the holy. When God sends Jesus Christ the true Light into the world this rebelliousness in spirit was obvious. John 1:4-5 sums up the quality of the children of darkness. "In him (Jesus Christ) was life; and the life was the light of men./And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." This also shall explain predestination is tied to the bedrock of the Word. Either you believed and made the seed sown in your heart grow or rejected it. "Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up."(Matt.15:13)

The red dragon is not the serpent but the body of the children of wrath.

The two wonders signify two nations namely children of light and children of wrath. Respectively their crowns indicate their origin.

The twelve stars indicate the Gospel of God working on the woman; meanwhile ten horns stamp the red dragon as a creature of the Law. "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin."(Ro.3:20; Gal.2:16) The beast's authority came from this dragon. "having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."(Re.13:1). This demagogue is backed by sons of perdition and this spirit of disobedience is evident in our own times. His ten crowns signify the knowledge of sin. Seven heads of the red dragon indicate

Ronald.

Part 2.

Tempted of Satan.

Matthe 4:1. "Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

Here's my understanding.

In Matthew 3 we see Jesus being baptized by John the baptist.

Then, in verse 17it reads, "And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased"

That brings us to Chapter 4 where we see the tempting of Satan in which the word for tempted is "peiraz" which means to to test (objectively) that is endeavor 6

scrutinize entice discipline: - assay examine go about to prove.

( Matthew 4:1-11)

Verse 1 says it was the Spirit which led Jesus up into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

What is Important to note in this section is that the DEVIL WASN'T BEING USED TO TEST TO SEE IF JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD. HE KNEW JESUS WAS THE SON OF GOD!

In verse 3 where it says "if thou be the Son of God"

It should read "And when the tempter came to him, he said, "SINCE" thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.

Again, It was the Spirit that led Jesus into the wilderness to EXHIBIT this truth that was declared in Matthew 3:17.

That's my understanding on Christ being tempted.

Also; There is nowhere in scripture that says Christ had a inherited sin nature. .

I don't hold the view that Adam was created "Without" a sin nature. Adam was made a living soul;

Christ was made a Life giving spirit. Neither had to become that or hold on to it. Adam sinned and it proved he had that in him.

Christ proved he didn't.

HERE'S HOW THEY CONTRAST; "Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual

The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

1 Corinthians 15:46-47.

Christ was ordained to be the Lamb that takes away the sins of the whole world before the world began! He didn't have to qualify.

God bless.

Hi Ronald.

Part 1.

You stated; "We are told

our Savior our priest and the only mediator between us, and God was tempted as we are tempted, would not this temptation only be valid if he could succumb to temptation and was able to sin?

As you said,

I know we have discussed this in the past and yes we know each other stance on this.

However, let me share my understanding on this from what I have gathered and some from this very site.

When dealing with whether Christ could have sinned, the short answer is no He's God. I know we don't agree on that so no need for a debate there.

Now, one would ask "how could God (IN THE FLESH) be tempted? That's who Christ was here on earth. God in the flesh. 1 Timothy 3:16.

You referenced Hebrews 4:15. It reads "For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

This doesn't say Jesus was tempted to sin as if he had a sin nature inherited from Adam.

The word tested here is "peiraz" which is to test (objectively) that is endeavor, scrutinize entice discipline: - assay examine go about to prove.

Christ was tested while in the flesh and "can be touched with the feeling of our infirmities;

This doesn't mean he is fighting back the urge to sin! It means he's being enticed but yet his testing was to prove him.

You see an example of the word temptation being used this way in James 1:12. The word here is peirasmos. It means putting to proof (by experiment [of good] experience [of evil] solicitation discipline or provocation); by implication adversity: - temptation.

Also;

The mocking Christ on the cross was not a test. He was where he wanted to be and doing what he came to do.

They had no power over him and the nails didn't hold him to that cross, love did.

He could have come down any time he wanted to.

He was in control, not them! John 19:9-11.

See Part 2.

The tempting of Satan.

Re.12:1 Triadic motives

"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:"

Primarily the sun of righteousness and moon are taken as one. The standing of any believer is by the grace of God of which we received grace for grace. Secondly the two great lights taken as one signify the glory of God,"the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ." As the covenant stipulates they are to give light to the earth." And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,"(Ge.1:15-16; 2Co.4:6) This tableau presented by the Spirit looks to Ge.1:2 as well as to the new heaven and new earth. The holy city of God gives light of the Lamb to the earth where nations are placed. "And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it."(Re.21:23-24) The body of the woman clothed with the sun is not what it seems. She was called before the foundation of the world. But she shall not make it to the throne. The man child is the body instead. This body is comprised of all saints redeemed from the earth, (By the same token inner man is what benefits from predestination. The glory of God gives it a body as it pleased him This triadic motif of body is after the likeness of the Son. The Sun moon and the stars in short are the triadic motives,They are represented by the 12 stars . "A crown of 12 stars" is a kangaroo image signifying single measurement: man angel.

Col:3:1-3 "If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.

This begs a question: are we to strictly live our lives in heavenly places for his glory or making coverts, which as Jesus warned, "Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves."(Matt.23:15)

MotherMac

Hi Richard: Just a "Hi" note.

Hope you are abiding in a good place.

Hope your parents are comfortable and safe.

Would like to share this scripture that

I enjoy reading. Psalms 104:33,34,35.

Victory is ours.!!!!

Matt.15:15-16 "Parables" (2 of 2)

Jesus knew beforehand who are they as he knew Judas what he would do. But as the Word become flesh his Spirit to give a chance to redeem himself. "Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?/He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him."( John 6:70-71). We have an example what good it did to those disciples stayed the course learning from the Master. "His disciples said unto him, Lo, now speakest thou plainly, and speakest no proverb." ( John 16:29)

" Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is."( 1 John 3:2).

So the Spirit present parables as in the case of Blasphemy( of which we discussed in an earlier post from the Father Son relationship of God- Matt.12:31-32) to indicate the kingdom of the Son and kingdom of God. We shall see the Son as he is since we have the same glorious body and our soul establishes His mind working through the body. He is the Head and we belong to one body, the church. What made it all possible? Gospel of God is tagged as 12. When he presented the gospel it was gospel of Christ but the tag remains same. Even where Judas lost his place among the twelve it was necessary to keep the number as same.

In the upper room disciples gathered as commanded, "the number of names together were about an hundred and twenty,"(Ac.1:15)

"And the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles."(Ac.1:26)

The Gospel is everlasting gospel is the same so tag 12 shall be basis by which the holy city is measured (12x1000). The single measure man-angel makes Paul, Peter and Matthias of whose ministry we know nothing are interchangeable. We have a clue. "And when they did mete it with an omer, he that gathered much had nothing over, and he that gathered little had no lack; they gathered every man according to his eating"(Ex.16:18)

Matt.15:15-16 "Parables" (1 of 2)

"Then answered Peter and said unto him, Declare unto us this parable./And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?"

Parables are meant to separate those who are born of the flesh from those who are born of the Spirit. Jesus asking his disciples as mentioned in the key text reveals his disciples were of the same league as that of Nicodemus. But one thing which was crucial for being born of the the Spirit was in favour of St Peter. When many disciples turned away from him Simon Peter believed. " Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life./And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God."( John 6:88-69). This was before the outpouring of the Spirit and his lifeline was alone the word of God as the voice and the sign before him. This is what the Spirit means of having the seed in itself.' Israel made light of it so Jesus castigated them, as blind guides. "Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up./Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch." (Matt.15:13-14) Here we have the Spirit giving a reason why Jesus spoke to them in parables. "Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying,/This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me./But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." Their heart was far from God. Tell this to the pastors who preach 'prosperity'. In our very midst we have such specimens, Pharisaical in garb of TV preachers. Heaven help us!

Jesus knew beforehand who are they as he knew Judas what he would do. But as the Word become flesh his Spirit to give a chance to redeem himself. "Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?/He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him."

Dear Brother Jesse , with love and respect to you , who do you think that Paul is talking about in Hebrews chapter 5 ? Aaron ? Melchizedek ? Or Jesus ? Love in Christ .

John 3:12-13 "Born of the Spirit" (2 of 2)

How does one quantify what is spiritually understood? The Spirit renders such unquantifiable with numbers that are called Command numbers. The Holy City of God is a cube, "And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth: and he measured the city with the reed, twelve thousand furlongs. The length and the breadth and the height of it are equal."(Re.21:16). The Spirit sets a tag 100 for the generation of Jesus and 1000 is the tag for end times.(End times in the day of Salvation is the beginning of the day of Regeneration so everlasting life promised to believers is continuation of now but in glory0John 3:16). Coming back to 144,000 we shall break it up as thus: 12x12x1000. This has nothing to do with Israel. In Re.7 the left out church redeems by stepping in the place of Israelites, a quality of Jesus Christ is stated here, "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven." Seth for this reason doubles for the Son. Ze.3:15 refers to the intercessory role of Jesus Christ. However Joshua is a Hebrew variant for Jesus. This usage of the variant is significant. It is used to represent the believers tagged with 144,000 who barely escaped the great tribulation "Is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?/Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel." The fire refers to the great tribulation.

The two disciples going to Emmaus were like Nicodemus and also spiritually blind "And it came to pass, that, while they communed together and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them./But their eyes were holden that they should not know him." ( Luke 21:15-16)

If such is the case should we be surprised if the imposter churches whatever names one may call them are turning out from their assembly line such half-baked witnesses for Christ. They deny Christ's deity to mean something less and it shows up in their flock.

Dear Brother Jesse , I'm a bit confused by your last sentence in this post : I do not believe.....is that correct or are the computer gremlins at work ? I ask this because the thing that you said that you don't believe is exactly what I do believe . It's true that Jesus had no biological human father but he did have a human mother . The first Adam had neither , he was born totally by the power of God without any humanity in him and yet he was capable of and did indeed sin .

What is Jesus's victory if not the victory over sin ? Sin which is the powder of death , or rather sin which causes physical death ? The wages of sin is death as we know . Christ did not earn those wages . If it was impossible for him to do so then where is his victory ? He has won nothing he has accomplished nothing he didn't submit he didn't have any choice in the matter he didn't have to make any effort .

In the garden if Gethsemane his humanity is very evident . He is afraid . Afraid of the physical mental emotional and spiritual pain and humiliation . He asks that the cup might pass from him , that the crucifixion might not have to happen . Isn't there another way Father ? God says no , there is no other way , I want you to do it this way . Jesus submits but right up to the last second he is tempted . Come down and we will believe you ! He could have done that ! His human nature that was in agony , would want to do that . He resisted temptation because he knew that it was God's will and plan for him to do it this way , he is he lamb slain from the foundation of the world ! He had to do it willingly , he had to submit which means he had the choice not to submit . He learned obedience , those two words are so important , learned obedience . Dear Brother , your last sentence that explains what you don't believe , that's exactly what I do believe . With respect , we shall have to differ .

John 3:12-13 "Born of the Spirit" (1 of 2)

If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?/ And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

"How can these things be?" Problem of Nicodemus was that he grew up in physical terms, His understanding was licked into a shape to get through life among his peers, without jeopardising his position. He looked up unto the hills 'whence cometh my help' and singing the song of the degrees did not make him see the mountain of God anymore than plain speech of Jesus made sense to him. For instance if being born of the Spirit I were to say, for example the statement that was made in the discussion forum "The 144,000 are male, virgin Jews, 112,000 from each tribe of Israel. Revelations 7:3-4 and 14:3-5" is wrong, no amount of debate is going to settle the matter. Where is faith called for reason must be inadequate. Faith is born of hearing, and as Paul says,"So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." Without it no amount of my saying otherwise shall help the other person. One is born of the Spirit so one is not only negotiating the present world but also 'the world to come.' Jesus Christ has both day of salvation and day of Regeneration, the Alpha and Omega aspect. If we gather with Christ here and now, we shall be gathering with him in his glory. So the Spirit uses tags where 12 signifies the gospel of God. St Paul's prayer, "May be able to comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height;/ And to know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge, that ye might be filled with all the fulness of God."(Ep.3:18-19).How does one quantify what is spiritually understood? The Spirit renders such unquantifiable with numbers that are called Command numbers. The Holy City of God is a cube, "And the city lieth foursquare, and the length is as large as the breadth:

Hello Momsage,

Once again, I found humor in your post, at least with how your spell checker keeps sabotaging you. Darn spell checkers! Being prior military, your spell checker put in a word (Commandant) that gave me a visual and reminder of being in military parade formation and having "10 Commandants" in charge of the formation. There's always only one which is enough because that individual is usually an intimidating high-ranking figure. I can't imagine 10 of them! Just a visual. I know what you meant!

I do have to ask you though; I have seen you mention a book of Revelations on several occasions. Does your Bible have a book of Revelations? Or is it just Revelation? I understand it to be titled Revelation, singular, being the Revelation of Jesus Christ. I hope I am not being too critical. I don't mean to be. If you think I am, please tell me so!

May the Lord continue to bless you and may your hunger for His word never be quenched!

Hi there Brother Ronald,

I was not ignoring you. I do agree that Jesus lived a perfect sinless life and that He was (and is) a Lamb without spot, or spotless. Jesus was tempted by Satan, but He did not give in to the temptation because it is impossible for Him to give in to Satan's temptations and commit sin. At no time did Jesus ever have a sin nature. Since Jesus did not come from a human father, His blood was pure with absolutely no stain of sin which we are born with. I am not completely sure if you believe Jesus was able to sin or not? It sounds like you believe He could have given in to temptation and sinned, but I could be misunderstanding you. If so, please forgive me. However, I do not believe that Jesus purposely avoided sin so He could go to the cross as a perfect sinless sacrifice for our sins in order that we might be saved.

May the Lord bless you also!

Brother Chris,

Thank you so much for your words of encouragement!

I posted in another site: post #82-Oseas3, Sep 5, 2019

Which of these TWO Beasts is the main Beast?

1- John saw a MAN Beast rise up out of the sea(Gentile Beast), having 7 heads and 10 horns, and upon his horns 10 crowns, and upon his (7) heads the name of blasphemy. WHO IS THIS BEAST FROM THE SEA? Is he the main Beast for you?

2- John saw another MAN Beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb(a false lamb, of course), and he spake as a Dragon. WHO IS THIS BEAST FROM THE EARTH? Is he the main Beast for you?

Which of these TWO Beasts cited above is the main Beast for you?

We are interpreting the book of Revelation- chapter 13

1 - Which are the 7 heads of the devilish Beast from the sea, and what they represent?

2 - Who are the 10 horns having 10 crowns which united themselves to the Beast of the sea?

3 - What is the name of blasphemy upon the 7 heads of the Beast of the sea?

4 - Who is the another Beast like a LAMB that was seen by John, who came up out of the earth?-a dry land-

5 - Why does this another Beast have 2 horns, what they represent?

The Word of God says: The FIRST religious and blasphemer MAN Beast, the Beast from the sea- Revelation 13:1-10, will rule the Antichrist's Empire for 42 month. For now, the FIRST religious and blasphemer MAN Beast has not Power to establish the Antichrist's Empire ALONE, therefore, this MAN will sit as a ruler of the Antichrist's Empire only and only after the manifestation of the Beast of the earth- Revelation 13:11-18,and both will make a deal to establish an Empire,a religious Antichrist's Empire.

Then there will be TWO Beasts operating/working on the Earth.

After the end of the 42-month rule of the first Beast,who will assume the throne of the Empire of Antichrist for another 1,290 days is the Bleak Abomination through the Beast that has risen from the earth,the Beast as a lamb,but this man speaks as a Dragon.In fact,this Beast as a lamb is a false lamb, a false messiah, an IMPOSTOR.

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Matthew (Part 7):

Matthew 5:22 - But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

In Greek, RAKA means good for nothing. It is an insult! So first you have inward anger. And then you begin to express it, and it becomes an insult, "you good for nothing!" And then you say, "thou fool," and if you say thou fool, that is slander. It's the Greek word MOREH where we get our word moron from in English. So you go from inner anger, to insult, then it comes to slander when you say you fool or more literally "you moron."

First, when you say Raca, you are in danger of the council, and that would be the supreme court of the Jews, the Sanhedrin, who's the head of all of the civil and religious affairs of the Jews. We see the word council and we may not catch that this is the Sanhedrin. The Greek text has the word SUNEDRION which is the word for Sanhedrin. The translators could have used Sanhedrin instead of council. So, the first one for anger, you come before the judge. If it is insult, then you come before the Supreme Court, the Sanhedrin. If you say, "thou fool" or "you moron," you are in danger of hell fire.

Matthew 5:48 - Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Here is where many disagree with what the word "perfect" means. People will say that you can become perfect just like God because it says so right here. But this is why you have to love the Greek text!

The Greek word for perfect means to function in purpose. It doesn't mean to be perfect. It means to function in purpose! Jesus is saying that we, under the influence of God's Spirit, should be functioning in purpose like Him, because that is what Jesus does. He's the representative of God's love.

I'll stop here and pick back up perhaps tomorrow, Lord willing!