Bible Discussion Replies PAGE 336

  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    The Millennial Reign (1 of 2)

    This Reign shall be in the mid-air. "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection./ Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."( Re.20:5-6) was foreshadowed in the divine Will of the Father; it will be fulfilled by the Son. The Bible also directly refers to it happening in the day of regeneration. So without taking two worlds of the Spirit and of the body foolish teachers are merely treating the deep wounds of the world lightly.

    Now the Lord Go sets Noah as the double for his Son. "for thee have I seen righteous before me in this generation.(Ge.7:1) The Ark built under specifications commanded by God points to the kingdom of his dear Son. The Spirit gives another clue. "And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years."(Ge.6:3)

    Life of man has been set on the basis of the word. Gospel of God sets generation of Noah in terms of his Son. (Matt.1:1).Blessedness of the day seven continues from the everlasting covenant. "These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that theLordGod made the earth and the heavens,"(Ge.2:4).

    This is also shown as directly evident by bringing the ark to rest on a mountain than on the new earth. "And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat." By giving a specific name it is a reminder that it is not merely a symbolic value of the stone laid in Zion (Is.28:16) but that of a mountain range associated with mountain not connected with Palestine. Israel has nothing to do with it.

    Sermon on the mount and transfiguration of Jesus took place on 'mountain' or a holy mountain.
  • Prayer me - 2 years ago
    Hello as a new convert to the King James Bible i find myself absoulety overwhelmed.After much effort i find myself somewhat lost. To this end in disppear i find myself here and asking the very real question were do i start and how do i properly read the bible to do the bible justice and myself justice.I have a very real lack of understanding which leads me to panic and fear.This is causing great anguish in me and i need some advice on how to procede and to do my self and the King James Bible justice.Any advice will be graciously accepted.I have an active account with KJV.

    Thankyou.Michael Worters.
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    Revelation 5:8-10

    8And when he had taken the book,the four living beings and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb,having every one of them harps,and golden vials full of odours,which are the prayers of saints.

    9And they sung a new song,saying,Thou art worthy to take the book,and to open the seals thereof:for thou wast slain,and hast redeemed us to GOD by thy blood out of every kindred,and tongue,and people,and nation;

    10And hast made us unto our GOD kings and priests:and WE shall reign on the earth.(JESUS said:Mat.5:5 Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth).

    Revelation 11:15-18

    15And the seventh angel sounded;and there were great voices in heaven( Ephesians 1:3-8),saying,The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD(world of Devil)are become the kingdoms of our Lord,and of His Christ;and He shall reign for ever and ever. ( 1Corinthians 15:24-27

    24Then the END come,when He shall have delivered up the Kingdom to GOD,even the Father;when He shall have PUT DOWN all rule and all authority and power.25For He must reign,till He hath put all enemies under His feet.26The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death)

    16And the four and twenty elders,which sat before GOD on their seats,fell upon their faces,and worshipped GOD,

    17Saying,We give thee thanks,O Lord GOD Almighty,which art,and wast,and art to come;because thou hast taken to thee thy great power,and hast reigned.

    18And the nations were(WILL be)angry,and thy wrath is come,and the time of the dead,that they should be Judged,and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets,and to the saints,and them that fear thy name,small and great;and should destroy them which destroy the earth

    Re.13:4 & 9

    4...who is able to make war with him?with the Beast

    9If any man have an ear,let him hear

    Re.21:8

    8But the fearful(the COWARDS),and unbelieving,and the abominable,and murderers,and whoremongers,and sorcerers,and idolaters,and all liars,shall have their part in the lake which burns with fire and brimstone
  • Oseas - In Reply - 2 years ago
    MotherMac

    You said I am on time, because you also are on time, otherwise you would not say that.

    GOD bless, and remain on the time as you are, in the other hand, stay vigilant because we are living in perilous times
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    2 Samuel 12-Concluding thoughts on David's plea for his son to live

    In my last post I got into how heinous David's sin was. He already had; as the Lord told him through Nathan the prophet many wives and things the Lord gave him; and if he had asked the right way God would have given him more things. Up until this point; David had been a fearless man of God whose prayers had been answered and he had continued to make progress with the Philistines in particular as well as other factions coming after Israel. At this point; however the Lord said that his son would die.

    His pleading to God which no doubt indicates heartfelt prayer; as well as a week of fasting in sackcloth were of no avail. It is an interesting note in 2 Samuel 12:23 that David indicates he shall go to see his son; not vice versa thus an indication his son would be with the Lord someday hence not suffer forever for David's sin.

    It is noteworthy as well that Solomon would be the one from Bathsheba's later offspring that would continue to build God's Temple and be in the Messianic lineage. It is interesting that after this point there would be further family squabbles; and even competition for the throne through Absolom and other enemies the Lord would allow; after David's taking of the census; another one of his big sins. This could have even been something foreseen since it is hard to tell what God referred to originally when David was told he wouldn't be the one to complete the Temple.

    There are some other indications that David had a disease possibly a venereal one in the Psalms; likely after being with many women. (see Psalm 38). He was in no way a perfect man; but did know how to seek the Lord after being challenged; at least in this case and after the census by Nathan the Prophet. Sadly Solomon multiplied these errors even more; although he was living in a time of relative peace. He had an INSANE number of wives AND concubines. The Kingdom was soon to be divided.
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    2 Samuel 11 and most of chapter 12 discuss David's next prayer; which was a result of God's decision to strike his illegitimate child with Bathsheeba (even though at this time he was already married to her). Verse 16 talks about David "pleading" with God which I would say was a manner of prayer; perhaps equivalent to what some called a "lament" when it relates to Psalms he also wrote.

    As discussed briefly in my last post; the first phase of David's life was his struggle to survive under Saul; which as one commentator happened to say involved 21 separate attempts to kill him; many times with a javelin in the beginning. This situation with Bathsheeba occured when his troops were achieving victory; and he probably should have been out on the battlefield himself at this time. Let's take some time to discuss how heinous this sin was as related to Uriah the Hittite and taking advantage of his wife; and compare it to the behavior of Uriah.

    First off; the Hittites were; according to Deuteronomy 20:17 to be totally annihilated. This is yet another example (along with Rahab the "harlot" from the city of Jericho devoted to destruction) of someone who was preserved. How long he had been with Israel or descended from Jewish ancestry it is uncertain. His behavior certainly indicated that he was serving the Lord as an exceptional example in the army at least.

    David was called out by Nathan the Prophet as being the guilty party and Uriah as an innocent man. It is likely that David at first brought him out of battle to go to be with his wife; so that it would appear he was the one rather than David who was the father of the baby. Maybe Bathsheeba knew missing her period she was pregnant; or she would attempt to hide it. Uriah was too loyal to the army to take any liberties for himself with the army in the fields preparing for battle. Eventually David decided to send him to the front lines and feigned life's circumstances as taking him after deliberate setup
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    Prayers of David

    1 Chronicles 28:3 says but God said unto me, Thou shalt not build an house for my name, because thou hast been a man of war, and hast shed blood.

    2 Samuel 7:18 to the end of the chapter shows David's response after Nathan the prophet did an about face to his original encouragement for David to build the Temple (house of God). It doesn't state the reason as the Chronicles passage does. Here we see that David's plans were to be tabled for the next generation through his son Solomon. Being the man of God and humility David was he praised God despite what may have seemed like bad news. This perhaps gave him solace after the first son of Bathsheeba died as collateral damage for his sin of getting rid of her original husband and committing adultery with her beforehand. Divine Providence allowed the line of the Messiah to be through this lineage; just as it was with Rahab the "harlot" who was also in the family tree. In terms of answering this prayer we have much detail of the tremendous resources and talents that went into preparations that Solomon would complete but concurrently be involved with while David was still alive.

    This prayer is one of the more quoted ones; it will be too much at present to discuss all of David's prayers.

    Much of 1 Samuel and beginning of 2 Samuel involve the long and tortuous schizophrenic type (actually demonically influenced) of Saul and David's unfortunate cohabitation. Ever since the story of David slaying Goliath; and the women celebrating David as having done a greater accomplishment than Saul his madness began. His problems began from rebellion and not obeying God fully with slaying the Amalekites; as well as attempting himself to do a sacrifice which only priests were allowed to do. He had already been rejected from the throne but did all he could until his demise to attack David; and occasionally appear to have what was left of sanity; and met David with tears of remorse. I may cover this later
  • MotherMac - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Reply to Oseas__

    "Get ready. Behold the bridegroom

    cometh..". Matthews 25:6

    Before I read your post, I thought about

    you when I read Todays Bible verse.

    You are on time! Amen!!!
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    AFTER THE JUDGMENT OF BABYLON

    Re.19:1-10

    1And AFTER these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven,saying,Alleluia;Salvation,and Glory,and Honour,and Power,unto the Lord our GOD:

    2For true and righteous are His Judgments:for He hath Judged the Great Whore,which did corrupt the earth with her fornication, and hath avenged the blood of His servants at her hand.

    3And again they said, Alleluia And her smoke rose up for ever and ever.

    4And the four and twenty elders and the four beasts fell down and worshipped GOD that sat on the throne, saying, Amen; Alleluia. ( Revelation 11:15-18 also describe this celestial Event)

    5And a voice came out of the throne,saying,Praise our God,all ye His servants,and ye that fear Him,both small and great.

    6And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude,and as the voice of many waters,and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying,Alleluia:for the Lord GOD Omnipotent reigneth.

    7Let us be glad and rejoice,and give honour to Him:for the marriage of the Lamb is come,and His wife hath made herself ready.

    8And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen,clean and white:for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

    9And he saith unto me,Write,Blessed are they which are called unto the marriage supper of the Lamb.And he saith unto me, These are the true sayings of GOD.

    10And I fell at his feet to worship him.And he said unto me,See thou do it not:I am thy fellowservant,and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus:worship GOD:for the testimony of JESUS is the spirit of prophecy.

    REVELATION 1:7-8

    7Behold,He cometh with clouds{See exemple in Exodus 19:14-17,and understand the biblical chronology:we are in the 3rd Day};and every eye shall see Him,and they also which pierced Him(around 2000 years ago,or two Days):and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of Him.Even so,Amen.

    8I am Alpha and Omega,the beginning and the ending,saith the Lord,which is,and which was,and which is to come,the Almighty.
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    And now JESUS WILL RETURN AGAIN HERE IN THE SAME PLACE from where He ascended to the third heavenly environment and a cloud RECEIVED Him: Acts 1:10-11)-->10 And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went up, behold, two men stood by them in white apparel; 11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come IN LIKE MANNER as ye have seen Him go into heaven.

    yes, He will again return now IN LIKE MANNER to the same place from where He ascended, and He will reign and lead us in new celestial environment ( Ephesians 1:3) by His power, for a period of 1.000 years, the SAME CLOUD also will appear again, understand?) , as it is revealed in Philippians 3:20-21: -->20 For our conversation is in heaven (heaven: Ephesians 1:3. Take a look.)-; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto himself. By the way, He made it very clear when He said: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth- Matthew 28:18.

    Get ready,Behold, the bridegroom cometh;go ye out to meet Him- Matthew 25:6.

    Lets pray

    Unfortunately,there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

    Re.18:1-3

    According to GOD's Word,what needs to happen first? Exactly what is written in Revelation 18:1-5,i.e. the Judgment of the Great Whore,as follows:

    1And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven,having great power;and the earth was lightened with his glory.

    2And he cried(will cry)mightily with a strong voice,saying,Babylon the great is fallen,is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils,and the hold of every foul spirit,and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

    3For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication,and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her...

    Get ready
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    Everlasting covenant (2 of 2)

    Day 2. (Continued)

    In the new heaven and the new earth the tabernacle of God among men and New Jerusalem as a Bride in mid-air In place of firmament the waters flow from the middle of the Throne of God and of the Lamb (Re.22:1)

    Day3.

    "And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so./And God called the dry land Earth."(Ge.1:9-10). The waters above with tree of life for the healing of nations in the outer darkness.(Re.22:2)

    Day-4

    "And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind." (Ge.1:12) Tree of life whose seed was in itself. Saints redeemed from the earth, who are adopted in the Man component. Tree of life. separation of light from darkness in 1. Trees of righteousness (Ps.1:2)

    Day 5.

    "And God made the beast of the earth after his kind,"(Ge.1:25). Memorial of the body in heaven. (Re.ch.4-5) This is prelude to Trinity where God the Father and the Son give glory to the unseen world (heaven) So new earth has a body where their glory is of the same quality. "for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof."(Re.21:23b) The celestial lights in Ge.1:14-16 as with heaven and the earth are new. The natural light as with the earth are placed out of the blessedness of Zion. This explains the v.23a. "And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it."

    Day 6.

    "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them./And God blessed them,"

    Day.7

    "And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested"(Ge.2:3)Blessed are they who enter into the rest of God. Faith is revealed. (He.11:3)
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    Everlasting Covenant (1 of 2)

    Between God and Man. "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

    What it intends to achieve:New heaven and the new earth. (Re.21:1)

    "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.Anyone in Christ is a new creation." So in Man fulfill the divine Will .(2 Co.5:17)

    Day 1 :Separation of light from darkness. (1.4) Accordingly new heaven and the new earth is separated from the outer darkness. "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city./For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie."(Re.22:14-15)

    Day 2 "And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters." (Ge.1:6). In the new heaven and the new earth the tabernacle of God among men and New Jerusalem as a Bride in mid-air In place of firmament the waters flow from the middle of the Throne of God and of the Lamb (Re.22:1)

    "And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so./And God called the dry land Earth."(Ge.1:9-10). The waters above with tree of life for the healing of nations in the outer darkness.(Re.22:2)

    "And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind." (Ge.1:12) Tree of life whose seed was in itself. Saints redeemed from the earth, who are adopted in the Man component. Tree of life. separation of light from darkness in 1. Trees of righteousness (Ps.1:2)
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 2 years ago
    A Correction:

    In the second para the first line

    Without the everlasting covenant in the Book of Genesis Ch.1 and ch.2:1-3 we have the bowl to hold all together.

    should be read as

    "Without the everlasting covenant in the Book of Genesis Ch.1 and ch.2:1-3 we have no bowl to hold all together."
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    Literalism supplies you many verses and one shall say Israel is the centre of God's plan. Another shall say the church as a body is at the centre. Merely supplying verses is serving a bowl of soup without spoon to drink from. The Spirit has provided the needful.

    Without the everlasting covenant in the Book of Genesis Ch.1 and ch.2:1-3 we have the bowl to hold all together. Spoon is what makes the hungry soul refresh. It tells you how to rightly draw truth from the dish. Two standpoints that of the Father and the Son are needed to do the job meaningful. Two phrases' unto this day' and 'in that day' gives us a clue whether the Spirit is explaining any given passage from the divine Will of the Father or from that of the fulfillment that glorifies the Son. Both should be understood as one Holiness of God or the Name, since it is the Covenant entered between God the Father and the Son.
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Regarding the quote Re.20:8 "For without' refers to outer darkness.
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Rainwalker,

    The Spirit has clearly laid out spiritual roadmap for the rejection of Israel. "Unto this day" refers to the Son whom God sent according to the everlasting covenant. Wherever this expression is used it is consistent and Jesus Christ is in the direct frame of reference. Israel conspires with Rome to cover his resurrection. In Matt.28:11-15 "Now when they were going, behold, some of the watch came into the city, and shewed unto the chief priests all the things that were done./ And when they were assembled with the elders, and had taken counsel, they gave large money unto the soldiers,/ Saying, Say ye, His disciples came by night, and stole him away while we slept./ And if this come to the governor's ears, we will persuade him, and secure you./ So they took the money, and did as they were taught: and this saying is commonly reported among the Jews until this day." Until this day establishes the lie that was hatched by the Jews. The Bible says where the nation goes to, "and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."(Re.21:8)

    " Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city./ For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie." (Re.22:14-15)
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Israel.

    Part 2.

    Some say the Jews killed Jesus.

    He died by the hard of the Jews but all our sins put him on that cross!

    He could have resisted but that is what he came to do.

    "Even as the Son of man came not to be ministered unto, but to minister, and to give his life a ransom for many. Matthew 20:28"

    Therefore doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again. John 10:17-18.

    NO MAN TAKETH IT FROM ME, BUT I LAY IT DOWN OF MYSELF. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

    If it was any other way his prayer was not answered in Matthew 26:42-44.

    John 12:23-28 reads "And Jesus answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified.

    Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit.

    He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal.

    If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honour.

    Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.

    Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.

    Also;

    John 12:31-33. Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.

    And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

    This he said, signifying what death he should die.

    Isaiah 53:7-12 spells it out!

    Notice verse 10.

    "Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.

    More to come.

    Goodnight and God bless.
  • S Spencer - 2 years ago
    More on Israel!

    Part 1.

    I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you. Genesis 12:1-3.

    From this promise you see that God did not choose a nation, he chose a man and built a nation from this man.

    This doesn't make Israel more special; it makes God more special because he keeps his promises.

    "And the LORD said unto Abram, after that Lot was separated from him, Lift up now thine eyes, and look from the place where thou art northward, and southward, and eastward, and westward: For all the land which thou seest, to thee will I give it, and to thy seed for ever.

    Genesis 13:14-15.

    God's faithfulness and promise did not stop with the nation of Israel.

    His faithfulness to keep his Word is not just true for Israel, it is true for you and I.

    "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy" 1 Peter 2:9-10

    When you think of the nation of Israel, and the very land where Israel sits, let it be a reminder that when God says something he will do it.

    The Israelites were God's chosen people because they represent God's faithfulness to Abraham! and that he keeps his word!

    He showed his faithfulness in Egypt and he's going to do it again!

    "Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;

    But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land"

    Jeremiah 23:7-8.

    God will not forsake Israel

    Here's why: 36:19-28.

    See Part 2.
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    Mathew 25:24-30

    24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown (IT'S TRUE) , and gathering where thou hast not strawed(CORRECT):

    25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine.

    26 His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not(AMONG GENTILE PEOPLES- Matthew 15:24-28), and gather where I have not strawed(among Gentile peoples):

    27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

    28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents.

    29 For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath ... there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Bennymkje.

    Thanks for your thoughts.

    No comment from me.

    God bless.
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hey, Bennymkje.. greetings in Christ, wanted to mention, I am fully persuaded that the 1,000 year reign is in heaven. Rev 20:5 is a "clue".. " but the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished". During that time satan is marooned on the earth, "imprisoned",no one to tempt. Jer 4:23, "I beheld the earth, and lo, it was without form and void I am throwing this out there since you mentioned the 1,000 years in "mid air".. a "corroboration" as such.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Bennymkje.

    Thanks for responding, I can't engage right now I'm on the road, but I will take a look at your reply and give a response by this weekend .

    Thanks and God bless.
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 2 years ago
    "In that day"- Just one point

    This 1000 year reign mentioned in 20:6 also places the millennial reign of Christ. "Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years." This does not place it on the earth but in mid-air. Where that places Israel is not for me to answer. What the Spirit has drawn a veil over, let no man try even.
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    Ze.13:1 "In that day"

    Prophet Zechariah predicts a gleam of hope for Israel with this tag. Tag of unto this day refers to the church, the body of Christ.

    Israel while it is consigned to the outer darkness what is the future. In Abraham God had blessed all families in the earth. (Ge.12:1) The position of Israel cast off as St Paul refers, "God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew."(Ro.11:2) We shall understand their position from the Book of Joshua. The delegation from Gibeon under false pretences wrested an oath of alliance as Jacob had from his purblind father Isaac. Only after three days it came to light. The Spirit sets Command number Three to denote the Son. "And it came to pass at the end of three days after they had made a league with them, that they heard that they were their neighbours, and that they dwelt among them." Because of this oath Israel could not deny them. So they were given a servile role. This trifle of an incident was mentioned for a specific reason. "Unto this day" establishes it to show all things for him and by him consist. " And Joshua made them that day hewers of wood and drawers of water for the congregation, and for the altar of the Lord, even unto this day, in the place which he should choose." (Josh.9:27)

    This also highlights the manner the Spirit has set up signs. The numbers, the peculiar expressions, of which "unto this day" and "in that day" can be cited.

    This now leads us to the second death. " But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection./ Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years."(Re.20:5-6)

    "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death./And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Blessed is first resurrection
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Spencer,

    Ps.110:1-5 No more temple in the holy city of God. The Lamb is the glory of it. This places the outer darkness in contrast. " And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it./ And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof./ And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it." Zion New Jerusalem are for the saved. The Savior Lord made them kings and priests.(Re1:6).

    Their priestly service is after the Order of Melchizedek." The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool./The Lord shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies.

    / Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth./The Lord hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek."

    When God says the earth is his footstool (Is.66:1) does it mean they are honoured for killing his Son?
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Spencer,

    The quote "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." has significance because Jesus is not speaking condemnation in terms of himself. "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:"( John 5:22). But Jesus warns of his Father who shall. "But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him." Luke 12:5). It is in this sense God warned Adam, "for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die."(Ge.2:17)

    What does this lead to? The second death can only be explained after the redemption of man's soul. (Re.20:14) According to the Luke quote The Father has the power to cast man to hell. Those who make up the body has escaped condemnation. They belong to the new heaven and new earth. Jewish nation is cast out into the outer darkness. "There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out."( Luke 13:28-29). When new earth inaugurated the earth is left for the nations. For this reason we read 'healing of the nations mentioned' (Re.22:1-2)

    With the first Adam sin entered into the world so the nation that rejected Jesus, is already condemned in him. For those who believed the last Adam everlasting life. "There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit./For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death." Without Spirit guiding you have have fallen into error probably taught by imposter church and their foolish shepherds. When God says Jerusalem is like a dish turned upside down it is just that.(2 Ki.21:13-15)

    The outer darkness, the earth is His footstool. Is.66:1; Ps.110:1-5
  • Jaz - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen to you Brother .
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    Exodus 19:11 & 14-20

    11And be ready against the third day:for the third day the Lord will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai.

    14And Moses went down from the mount unto the people,and sanctified the people;and they washed their clothes.

    15And he said unto the people,Be ready against the third day: come not at your wives.

    16And it came to pass on the third day in the morning,that there were thunders and lightnings,and a thick cloud upon the mount,and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud;so that all the people that was in the camp trembled.

    17And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with GOD;and they stood at the nether part of the mount.

    18And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly.

    19And when the voice of the trumpet sounded long, and waxed louder and louder, Moses spake, and GOD answered him by a voice.

    20And the Lord came down upon mount Sinai, on the top of the mount: and the Lord called Moses up to the top of the mount; and Moses went up.

    John 2:18-20

    18Then answered the Jews and said unto him, What sign shewest thou unto us, seeing that thou doest these things?

    19Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.

    20Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and wilt thou rear it up in three days?

    Hebrews 1:1-2

    1GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

    2Hath in these last days (last two Days or last 2000 years)spoken unto us by His Son, whom He hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also He made the worlds;

    The third Day arrived, the clothes must be washed,the Lord shall descend from heaven(from the 3rd heaven),the dead in Christ shall rise first- 1Thessalonians 4:16 and Revelation 19:7-8.

    Matthew 25:6-Behold,the bridegroom cometh;go ye out to meet Him.
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    "Day of Regeneration" (3 of 3)

    Coming back to the key test judging the twelve tribes must be seen as label to cover all those left behind from the church and from the Jews. In Re.7 we have the sealing of 144,000 from 12 tribes. These are adopted from the left out church.This throws light into the passage from Zechariah "Even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?/Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel."(Ze.3:2-3). Joshua is Hebrew variant for Jesus signifies Christians stepping into the breach for Israel. Tribal considerations have become extinct in post exilic period. So the woman in the wilderness finding grace refers to it "And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child./ And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent." (Re.12:13-14).

    The outer darkness where weeping and gnashing of teeth are a way of life, and the nations get a new government. "Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world?" (1 Co.6:2). This part is distinct from unto this day. "In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness." (Ze.13:1)

    The tree of life is single and signifies "I am the life" So what does this expression 'on either side' mean? " In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."(Re.22:2) Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever. The river of time connect these nations. The pure water of life' proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.' cannot be hanging in mid-air. Is it not?
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    "Day of Regeneration" (2 of 3)

    Israel proved they were reprobate silver. Of Israel enemies to Christ the prophet has to say, "Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"(Is.5.20). Outer darkness therefore fits the description:" From the sole of the foot even unto the head there is no soundness in it; but wounds, and bruises, and putrifying sores: "(Is.1:6) While the earth has become new we have Zion established in mid-air so the 12 foundations of the apostles in precious stones carry on the covenant of God into the day of regeneration. "The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool./The Lord shall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies."(Ps.110:1-2) What is the footstool? Isaiah inspired by the Holy Spirit tells us: " Thus saith the Lord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool."(Is.66:1)

    "Unto this day" is an expression where Zion must be founded from where the law shall go forth. The new earth explains where the nations that are saved shall walk under the light of the holy city of God. God has turned Jerusalem as a cup over to indicate 'no more service" Because they have done that which was evil in my sight, and have provoked me to anger, since the day their fathers came forth out of Egypt, even unto this day.

    There is no more curse but we are faced with this expression, "healing of the nations." And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb./ In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations. "(Re.22:1-2)

    The set thrones of Zion refer to the house of prayer for all nations. (Ps.122:5)


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