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It is interesting as Spurgeon was strong on Predestination; as was George Whitfield who weeped during prayer before going out on his extensive revivals.

I am sure that I will continue to hammer this concept home as I continue through Psalms; as it seems in many churches if hell is even mentioned and believed in; the frequent contrasts between the righteous and the wicked in scripture seems overlooked at least from my experience. I could quote something else related to this from C.S. Louis in the Dawn Treader

So I just lay flat down on my back to let him do it. The very first tear he made was so deep that I thought it had gone right into my heart. And when he began pulling the skin off, it hurt worse than anything I've ever felt. The only thing that made me able to bear it was just the pleasure of feeling the stuff peel off. You know-if you've ever picked the scab off a sore place. It hurts like billy-oh, but it is such fun to see it coming away."

This showed how the character Edmond had a dragon like skin because of the evil that had come into him after; I think greedily eating some magic sweets that were addictive. There is also a scene in another book where the lion (representing Christ) was told to have someone tear into him as well; indicative of how deeply Christ had to suffer for our sake.

It seems the Lord provides the contacts in our lives; and the proper time(s) to give opportunity to witness. It is ok to weep with people; I have seen it myself in regard to street ministry. I would argue with the person you describe that we all are beyond redemption apart from His saving grace and of course today is the day for salvation. Nonetheless we need to trust His timing; and also that suffering in others He is calling serves a purpose.

Anyway; no need to respond to all of this; I tend to "wax eloquent" as it were. This is my social outlet in many ways aside from my church fellowship. I am also hoping to take this to heart and preach to myself.

Hi RedLady.

You stated; "all teachins have both a heavenly & literal meanin..

Ok, Here is what I said,

"We are to understand the Bible in its normal or plain meaning, UNLESS the passage is obviously intended to be symbolic or if figures of speech are employed.

I don't understand why you feel there is a disagreement so I won't get into that.

You stated; "

biggest problem is the bible has been so altered & butchered no one knows the truth"

Do you believe that what was supposedly excluded from the Bible was all important?

Do you believe what is written must be absolute truth and the truth is vital for our salvation?

Do you believe God's word is important to him?

Do you believe there is any other way to know God outside his Word?

Do you believe God is omniscience?

Do you believe God is omnipotent?

If you answered yes to these last two questions then how can a worm such as humans thwart his all important message to those he loves by contaminating his word?

I think much more of him than that and he expects us to.

That's an insult to who he is!

Isaiah 40:6-8. "The voice said, Cry. And he said, What shall I cry? All flesh is grass, and all the goodliness thereof is as the flower of the field:

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: because the spirit of the LORD bloweth upon it: surely the people is grass.

The grass withereth, the flower fadeth: BUT THE WORD OF OUR GOD SHALL STAND FOR EVER.

1 Peter 1:23. Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.

For all flesh is as grass, and all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away:

But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.

I hold that to be truth.

Did God have to write to Moses and the Prophets?

G has no problem getting out his word, he made Balaam's donkey speak.

He can make a rock sing out.

God bless.

Further thoughts on Psalm 2

As we apply these verses to prayer; we may consider that His victory means our victory; in the sense of our eternal future living with Him forever in heaven as well as now; when we suffer for His Name's sake we are fulfilling the Great Commission; and are assured of a reward in heaven as Jesus alludes to in the Sermon on the Mount. All of our life should therefore be wrapped up in the greater purposes; sowing in tears to reap later in joy ( Psalm 126:5-6). The meaning and purpose of earthly blessings common to man is only appreciated in the light of the weight of eternal glory. We ask for good things so that we can further His Kingdom; especially in regard to the filling of the Holy Spirit ( Luke 11:13). In praise; we ask that the King be exalted; and of course that starts in our hearts.

We look at Christ who suffered and His visage was marred more than any man ( Isaiah 52:14). But He shall see and be satisfied with His travail ( Isaiah 53:11). He willingly suffered in our place to fulfill the wish of the Father; but also came to serve and not be served as an example to us. ( Mark 10:45). We shall see Him exalted and victorious and no longer suffering; and no doubt He will rejoice for us as well. Therefore; we endure knowing that patience will have it's perfect work ( James 1:4).

This doesn't mean we don't long every day to see an end to suffering; but we know that we are gaining further eternal rewards in continuing to live faithfully until death or He comes on this earth. This should be a motivation primarily for others; we see the beginnings of what surely will be increasing numbers of Christians persecuted and martyred as we approach the end. We weary having not only to deal with our own sin and the terrible conditions of the last days but the spiritual warfare which is no doubt at fever pitch today. We must continue to boldly declare His coming conquest and victory even when looking like fools ( 1 Cor. 1:25)

Psalms/Prayer-end of Psalm 2

Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

9Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

10Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

11Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

12Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

I should mention verse 7 which mentions the Son begotton of the Father. He was always existent; but as the Son (glorified in a human body) forever He would be God incarnate; in a man in who would overcome death for all men to be able to gain victory through His sacrificial atonement.

The rest of this Psalm goes into the Millennial period where Christ is to rule with unquestioned authority and not tolerate any nonsense. We should note that TRUST is a key issue here; many will see Christ rule and reign but true faith involves trust that following Christ is the best thing to do and that our well being is paramount in His essense. Trusting what He says in the Word which is alive being spoken and breathed by God Himself is also imperative.

These statements remind us that things aren't always going to remain the same. As incredible as it seems; this event is literal and it will one final time repeat itself at the end of the Millennium when there is one final attempt at rebellion against God which results; of course in eternal damnation with the ensuing Great White Throne Judgment. Sadly this shows how men who don't know Christ will view a world that He reigns over thinking either that it will be a life that never ends; or thinking 1000 years is too long to concern themselves with anything but self interests. As a prayer; we see in later Psalms such as Psalm 22 that David suffered in many cases like Christ the Holy One.

Study in Psalms/prayer Psalm 2

Starting in verses 1-3 we read:

1Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? 2The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, 3Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

This prayer is basically synonymous with Revelation 19; and a host of other prophecies related to Christ's return in victory to rule and reign over the earth. The Tribulation itself begins just 7 years earlier with the Daniel 9:27 covenant "with many". The covenant with "death and hell" ( Isaiah 28:15 describing what the authors of this contract themselves proclaim at its inception).

It appears that the world may very well praise God if we take the verses in Revelation 5:3 literally. Once we get to the sixth seal in Revelation 6:12-15 we see men running from God's judgment; but after the Revelation 13 beast rises up and the False Prophet does his thing the world will take their mark of allegiance and in the end will be deceived by the 3 demons ( Rev. 16:13) and decide to fight against the Lord. That will be a consummation of a number of battles; not the least of which is the Ezekiel 38 war where everyone meets at Meddigo; probably beginning to fight one another; then turning on each other and fighting Christ.

Moving on; verses 4-7 say: He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

5Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

6Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

7I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Trying to focus this as it applied to David's understanding of what was a clearly prophetic message; we see how David was a sort of forerunner of the Messiah who would indeed be victorious over His foes and rule and reign. David is promised to rule with Him as well ( Jeremiah 30:9).

Hey Jaz,

Amen to you, all of Scripture is the truth for those who have ears to hear.

God bless,

RLW

RUTH 4

Then went Boaz(by allegory,the Holy Spirit)up to the gate,and sat him down there:and,behold,the kinsman of whom Boaz spake came by;unto whom Boaz said,Ho,such a one!(that is the Lord JESUS)turn aside,sit down here.And he turned aside,and sat down.And Boaz took 10 men of the elders of the city,and said,Sit ye down here.They sat down.Boaz said unto the kinsman:Naomi that come again out of the country of Moab,sells a parcel of land, which was our brother Elimelech's:And I advertise thee:Buy it before the inhabitants and the elders of my people.If thou wilt redeem it,redeem it:but if thou wilt not redeem it,then tell me,that I may know:THERE IS NONE TO REDEEM IT BESIDE THEE;and I AM after thee.And he said,I will redeem it.

Boaz said:What day thou buy the field of the hand of Naomi,thou must buy it also of Ruth the Moabitess,wife of the dead,to raise up the name of the dead upon his inheritance.And the kinsman said,I CANNOT REDEEM IT FOR MYSELF,LEST I MAR MINE OWN INHERITANCE:redeem thou MY RIGHT to thyself;I CANNOT REDEEM IT, buy it for thee.And Boaz said unto the elders and all the people,Ye are witnesses that I have bought all that was Elimelech's and was Chilion's and Mahlon's,of the hand of Naomi.And Ruth the Moabitess(by allegory the Gentile Church) have I purchased to be my wife,to raise up the name of the dead upon his inheritance.And all the people that were in the gate,and the elders,said,We are witnesses,do thou worthily in Ephratah,and be famous in Bethlehem.So Boaz took Ruth,and she was his wife:and when he went in unto her,the Lord gave her conception, and she bare a son.And Naomi took the child,and laid it in her bosom,and became nurse unto it.And the women her neighbours gave it a name,saying,there is a son born to Naomi;and they called his name Obed,father of Jesse,the father of David.These are the generations:Pharez begat Hezron,and Hezron begat Ram,begat Amminadab,begat Nahshon,begat Salmon,begat Boaz,and Boaz begat Obed,Jesse,Jesse begat David.

RUTH 1

In the days of the judges there was famine in the land,and a man of BethlehemJudah called Elimelech and his wife Naomi went to sojourn in the country of Moab,he,his wife and two sons Mahlon and Chilion,Ephrathites of Bethlehemjudah,and they continued there.Times after,Elimelech died,Naomi was left,and her two sons took wives of the women of Moab;one was Orpah,the other Ruth,and dwelled there about 10 years.The two sons of Naomi died,so Naomi arose with her daughters in law that she might return to Bethlehem,she heard the Lord had visited His people and gave them bread,she went forth out of the place where she was,and her two daughters in law with her to return unto Judah. Naomi said unto her two daughters in law,Go,return each to her mother's house,she kissed them and they lifted up their voice,and wept,and they said unto Naomi:Surely we will return with thee unto thy people.Naomi said,Turn my daughters:why will ye go with me?Turn again,my daughters,go your way, they wept again, and Orpah kissed her mother in law. But Ruth clave unto Naomi, and said:for whither thou goes,I will go;and where thou lodge,I will lodge:thy people shall be my people,and thy God my God.Where thou die,will I die,and there will I be buried if ought but death part thee and me.Then they two went to Bethlehem,when they arrived to Bethlehem all the city was moved about them,and they said,Is this Naomi?Naomi said unto them,call me Mara:for the Almighty has dealt very bitterly with me.I went out full and the Lord has brought me home again empty:why then call ye me Naomi,seeing the Lord hath testified against me,and the Almighty has afflicted me?So Naomi and Ruth returned out of the country of Moab and came to Bethlehem in the beginning of barley harvest.Ruth is revered as a figure of faithfulness and virtue,a symbol of the true Gentile Church-true GOD's people.Through her marriage to Boaz,she becomes the great-grandmother of King David,giving Moabite's lineage into the genealogy of JESUS.

WOW! Read yur posts & think & U have the best perceptions I've seen on the Bible on the whole internet. NOT bad considerin U R usin only what's LEFT of the Bible to decipher from.

One of the biggest deceptions taught is the Bible only applies to Christians & the one tribe of so called Jews which Rev 3 says R lyin & not really Jews. Both religions act like all other ppl came from some other God or somethin & not even part of the Bible & been tryin to figure out what happened to all the Lost tribes of Israel? They have been sittin right n front of ppl all along. Both Christians & Jews refuse to acknowledge them as part of the Bible.

God has 12 tribes of Gentiles/white children & 12 tribes of Jewish/black-brown children & God scattered ALL the children across the world givin EACH their own portion of land. When U look at Gods Chosen Ones they R a "tribe" of Jews NOT a religion. One tribe of ppl & there indeed is a huge connection between Israel America & Egypt N these end times. All those Biblical teachins have a literal & heavenly meanin.

The Harbingers I & II by Johnathan Cahn R extraordinary bks to read & history is repeatin itself n USA & it has fallen under great judgment. 9/11 a warnin from God to USA it better repent & change its ways.

From the butchered bk of Remembrance of ENOCH tablet of Seth 3:61 "And the Lord said that ALL the religions of the world would issue forth from these two stones for there is save TWO religions ONLY. One is drawn to the LIGHT of TRUTH & the other LOVES VIOLENCE & DARKNESS & ALL the righteous need to give diligent heed & the Lord said look & see with me how all of this began..." MANY great bks butchered from the Bible which n itself is deception to hide truth. Satan IS the Father of Lies & deception & is his works/conduct that seperates him from God & false prophets & their followers from true followers. Not a Christian badge. Look at Christian history/conduct vs Bible says for TRUTH of it.

Great insight & glad U shared.

Good day, Momsage,

In many ways I agree with you that God is heaven (eternal life) and being in His presence is what we will be so happy to abide in in the life to come. Heaven as a place would not be desirable to believers if God is not preset there.

I also remember that Jesus told the apostles that He was going to prepare a place for them in His "Father's house".( John 14:2)

So, if Jesus was speaking literally, then there is a place called heaven. If He was speaking figuratively, then He is most likely indicating that this place is where ever Jesus is because in Him all the Godhead dwells bodily.

It is hard to truly imagine what heaven as a place would be like, but we can readily imagine what heaven as being in God's Presence may be like in some ways. The Bible tells us so much about who God is, so we can be assured that being "in" Christ for all eternity will be so very satisfying and wonderful.

Good to hear from you. I hope we can talk more often. God bless you this day. My first grandchild will be born sometime in the next 10 days or so. I am excited and feel honored to have been asked to attend and be my daughter-in-law's support person along with my son. Please pray for everything to go well with the labor and delivery. Thanks

Oh Diana,

So sorry to hear of your loss. I will keep you in prayer. How hard this must be for you. May God comfort and give you solace in a time that is heart-wrenching. May He uphold you in His love and strength. May He place people in your life to help you and be the best kind of friend to you.

Acts chapter one verses 6+7 , chapter 28 verses 30+31 , Revelation chapter 21+chapter 22 . Ezekiel chapter 34 . And I the LORD will be their God , and my servant David a prince among them ; I the LORD have spoken it .Even so , come , Lord Jesus .

It's as I said being in heaven is being in God's presence no matter how that looks and since Jesus and God are one He was on earth as Jesus. However, if you are someone who doesn't accept the Trinity then I can understand your comments. God Bless :)

So u r sayingl when god says do not build yur house upon the sand he means do not build on oceans lakes & rivers where every christian is buyin up all they can?

that jesus's bride is a literal person to? maybe mary magdalene his beloved & goddess of wisdom sophia that the roman empire that killed jesus butchered from the bible should b placed back n it bcz she is a literal person?

biggest problem is the bible has been so altered & butchered no one knows the truth of anything & winners n any war write the history bks & make up the rules. its literal here but not there... no question the bk got butchered bcz the bible itself reflects it & has 66bks left n it & over 120 found & n existence & claim to b part of it. a very deceptive bk now & lack of truth to anything no matter how u look at it.

u now have a library full of altered bibles created by men to better fit some man or branches opinion. should b one bible with gods words only & not a buffet of bibles full of mens words u can pick from.

read rev 22:26-21 the warning the bride gives u when signin the bible off. read mat 23 bcz all rome did was change the word rabbi to father preacher pastor & minister & synagogue to church to decieve u & read jesus's opinion of yur scribes leaders & pharisees that follow them. ministers r not rabbbis n conduct.

from the butchered book of remembrance of enoch tablet of seth 3:61 "and the lord said that all the religions of the world would issue forth from these two stones for there is save two religions only. one is drawn to the light of truth & the other loves violence & darkness & all the righteous need to give diligent heed & the lord said look & see with me how all of this began..."

all teachins have both a heavenly & literal meanin & christians have a inability to grasp anything but literal & only where it serves them the heavenly. one need only look at the bible & the history of christianity & its conduct for 2,000 yrs to see which religion it is. keep it simple.

Hello. I am not sure if answering these questions will create a lot more or not.

It seems you have two questions. The first is; unfortunately true as what I was saying at the time Christ was in the grave that God the Father was in heaven. Let me attempt to repharase it; as you bring up God's omnipresence. In God's mind the future is already in the past; hence all prophecy is a "done deal" as it were at least to what was clearly fulfilled by Christ. In the cross; Christ was brought to the earth in human form; thus had to have; more or less the limitations we all have as man in order to die in our place. So I suppose we could say that He came from a timeless dimension to one confined by time; as well as one that confined him in human flesh and necessitated His death at a certain place in a certain way to fulfill these prophecies. At this point to be more precise; once He said "it is finished" He would have sealed the victory and thus was back to an immortal existence. He had to preach to those who were disobedient in Sheol as well as those fallen angels imprisoned under the earth; then release the captive souls who until that time could not go directly into God's presence. His sacrifice therefore was fully efficacious for them; so that they could be atoned for. I can reference the verses in Peter and Jude etc.; I have done this before so feel it isn't necessary. The key factor here is that SIN (ours) is what forced Him for that brief time on the cross to be separated from the Father since God cannot look on sin (Habukkuk 1:13) He had to turn away from His Son as part of a predetermined plan (see Deut. 29:29).

As to heaven; I take the descriptions in Revelation 22 as literal; there are undoubtably other verses expressing these things such as Psalm 48. The earthly temple was a shadow of the real thing ( Heb. 8:5) thus parameters were very specific. I could do a study on this at some point.

Anyway; keep reading the Word. Agape.

RIch P

God had to stay in heaven during Christ's time of humanity. Is that what you meant? If it is please explain why. Heaven isn't a "place " it's when our soul is in His presence; God is heaven. He is omnipresent so how can He not be somewhere and since Christ was God incarnet I guess He was there. God Bless :) Bye the way, anyone is welcome to post anytime on this site so you didn't crash anyone else's post, especially the one's who make numerous posts one after the other.

Reply to Richard's quote:

Psalms 116:1&2

I love the Lord because.

Reply to Richard's quote: If Hell must be filled, let it be filled in the teeth of our exertions, and let not one go unwarned and unprayed for." (Charles Spurgeon)

I love that quote.

When I am challenged by unbelievers, in our conversation I always tell,

" You know what, you may not love God but he still loves you. I know this because he loved me before I found that out for myself. Praise the Lord, Hallelujah. Amen."

Some of them think they are "beyond redemption."

Thank you for opening that up !!!

Pray God's will in this situation for we, as true believers, may feel we know what is best and probably do, but not as God does.

Finishing up on Psalm 1

My first admittedly challenging part of analysis dealt with presenting the Gospel and demonstrated a typical initial response as well as challenged our own boldness in sharing. A second point I felt was necessary here is that as a corporate Body of believers such a message of preservation of our souls in heaven as opposed to the rest of the wicked as a whole is something that also; no doubt brings overall hatred of the church. However there needs to be a comprehension here of that aspect of the Word. This helps to demonstrate my point from the other day about there being no emphasis on a particular individual being saved at least in prayer. Jesus would; at least when speaking to anyone besides one on one encounters give an overall call; often spoken in parables; or what we call the Sermon on the Mount. To the unregenerate mind; of course such a speech sounds like general "do good" practices that they feel they can; more or less accomplish. We can turn to Christ's warnings of hell; which were usually focused on the Pharisees and hypocritical religious leaders at the time. We learn from the Bible that there are two types of sorrow; one leading to repentance and salvation (Peter) and that leading to death (worldly sorrow with Judas Iscariot as the prime example). The truly frightening thing is that it seems many haven't even gone this far in their salvation experiences; that is genuine sorrow that is truly heartfelt. Of course we all have different expressions of emotion and experiences. But in the end His Holiness is something we must desire and as Romans 11:14 shows; we should provoke others toward jealousy. What draws sinners is despite their resistance that it cannot be denied that they are wicked and the Lord is righeous. That incorporates a TRUE understanding of how individual believers and the whole true church are exalted and blessed; and is augmented with their persecution and hatred ( Matt. 5:11-13).

Agape. RP

"If sinners be damned, at least let them leap to Hell over our dead bodies. And if they perish, let them perish with our arms wrapped about their knees, imploring them to stay. If Hell must be filled, let it be filled in the teeth of our exertions, and let not one go unwarned and unprayed for." (Charles Spurgeon)

I couldn't find from the source online which particular sermon this was from or writing.

This study is going to be hearder than I thought in light of the next Psalm; Psalm 2.

Further thoughts on Psalm 1 and practical applications

Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

2But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

3And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

4The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

5Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

6For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

This is going to be another painful exercise here; as to the topic discussed. A nonbeliever seeing either these verses or an affirmation from those calling themselves believers to such scripture and a lot of others besides no doubt will be offended.

From their perspective; who dares to tell me that they are righteous in God's eyes and they are not; that in fact they are hellbound without Christ. Before examining the offense of the cross ( 1 Cor. 1:18) it is important that we look at ourselves as well as speak the "oracles of God" so to speak. ( 1 Peter 4:11). Do we love others enough to tell them the hard truth if indeed it has turned us to worshipping the living God from our dead works? Can we be real about the fact that life is as a vapor; and the enemy is going to waste no time in destroying the soul of a man-anything the Lord allows him to do will be done. Are we as faithful ourselves as Satan is with the time available to us?

Another issue with ourselves is to accept that the most loving person; especially those we are close to is still in dire jeopardy and can by no means justify an exception from a righteous judge as anyone else. Let us do as Charles Spurgeon stated (no room here read my next post) UGH

STUDY ON PRAYERS-GOING THROUGH THE PSALMS

Psalm 1 reads:

Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

2But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

3And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

4The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

5Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

6For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

This Psalm is what I would call wisdom; much like we find in Proverbs. We could say "like father like son" in regard to the similar writing here. This Psalm certainly can't be defined as a prayer per se; and really isn't a praise primarily. It is; however an attestation to God's character revisiting a theme we find throughout the scriptures; particularly with Deuteronomy where blessings and curses were found in chapter 28 and 29 (I think I have the right 2 chapters). David would use this theme in other Psalms where he would remind the Lord; perhaps of His covenant promises; and use these concepts to request protection from his enemies who were pursuing him.

Verse 2 reminds us of the entire Psalm 119 which has the longest number of verses (172 I believe) focused entirely on the law and in an acrostic sort of poetic pattern when we see the first letter of each sequential one in the Hebrew alphabet beginning each "stanza". Again; we are reminded that these Psalms were to be sung.

The type of prosperity of verse 3 when considered focuses more on eternal treasures rather than earthly ones; which Solomon sadly succumbed to and nearly destroyed his life. David with his sins never seemed to allow that issue to control him.

Futher insights on prayer in regard to spiritual warfare.

INTERCESSORY prayer is something which frankly I haven't really studied in the Old Testament; but is also an important if not necessary act of spiritual warfare as Ephesians 6 in particular emphasizes. Perhaps it could best be compared to the wars of conquest of Israel for several reasons. First of all; it identifies the enemy and in no uncertain terms. The Lord would call for destruction of Israel's neighbors at the time because of their sinful religious practices; which included child sacrifice and in the case of at least one king; killing babies in the womb ( 1 Samuel 15:33 in regard to killing king Agag). The enemy of our souls comes to "steal; kill and destroy". ( John 10:10). We are called to love our enemies in regard to the sinner; but not the sin. Satan and his hordes are unredeemable and constantly coming against God's people and blinding the unregenerate. Just WHY believers seem so tepid in confronting this menacing enemy is a real conundrum in my mind; and sadly I can't help think it is because their walk is so compromised that they dare not face such a foe and find it easier to put it in the back of their minds as a lesser threat for some reason.

Of course there is no reason to hate sin and not the author of confusion; or vice versa. We can't put all the blame on Satan but not using our one offensive weapon the sword of the Spirit is both; well stupid and detrimental to the mutual well being of the saints. This may be the only time I would use such an offensive approach in terms of a general rebuke; and of course I have to face my own myopic prayer life when saying this to others. David had a sling and a stone to use as his armor was untested; a criminal would have only perhaps a file to whittle at his prison cell bars; we have only one offensive weapon in the Ephesians 6 inventory; that of the sword of the Spirit. NEVER go after Satan in your own strength that is also dumb.

Yes Brother , there are very many more scriptures you could have chosen , Amen to you .

Re.13:11-18 The false prophet

First we shall focus on the genuine Lamb wh is worthy in the sight of God. " seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." The Number Seven is the blessedness of man who has entered according to the everlasting covenant, (Ge.2:1-3). The Lamb slain has a testimony from heaven. " for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;/ And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth." (Re.5:9-10)His power and wisdom (seven horns and seven eyes) is from God. The book with seven seals attest to it. He was in the mind of God as the Lamb slain) He was the Lamb of God composite image of Spirit and body made to appear so faith gave him a mind which for obedience ears him a name above every other name. So the composite image of Lamb and God has a throne also composite, The Throne of God and of the Lamb. He is the same.(He.13:8)

What does the two horns of the anti-christ indicates. He "had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon." State and religion and we can narrow it down further: Christian nationalism. He has culture wars to butt in whenever the beast gives him the eye. He has also his cloth and vestments and a congregation to which he can expound Hermeneutics in literal terms so the beast has an image, like that of the golden calf made by Aaron." And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast,"(Re.13:14). Their worship is God literally explained a cut and paste job, so divinity of God is photoShopped, AI may yet help his cause, "the name of the beast, or the number of his name" is thus becomes the official religion. His end is however in the lake of fire and for everlasting burnings.

A correction,

The lamb comes out of nations representing ecclesiastical wing of the state: Israel as well as spokesman for the imposter church. They belong to the earth while New heaven and new earth are being prepared in heaven.

Just one point: Re.13 "The beast and the false prophet"

"And upon his heads the name of blasphemy," seven as a number renders the heads representing every heresies of which we may mention Divine rights of kings, Calvin's city of God, Workers paradise where holiness of God is bandied and dragged through muds. Not to mention the Papal infallibility which covers inquisition to sex abuse of the clergy. Calvin's city tainted with his horrible murder of Michael Servetus. Luther's role in the manner gave a handle to the Nazi regime should not be forgotten. In Re.11:7 we have the beast coming out of the outer darkness associated with lower parts of the earth. " the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them." The two witnesses are a label for God's testimony . What is unnamed by the Spirit shall be left alone. The beast is son of perdition whose body spirit and soul giv him a compound number 666.

The false prophet represent nations .

Just Scripture,

Malachi 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

Mark 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

Romans 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

1 John 2:22-23 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Acts 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

Luke 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

God bless,

RLW

Just one point: Significance of "Dry"

Three examples where the Spirit uses the adjective 'dry"

1. "O ye dry bones, hear the word of the Lord."(Ez.37:4) Dry bone can hear the word

2."For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground"(Is.53:2) Dryness associated with dry ground.

3."When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places,"(Matt.12:43)

Unclean spirits belong to Satan and spiritual wickedness in high places. (Ep.6:12)

Taken together Ezekiel's vision leads to the creation of man. "And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the Lord." Ezekiel is annotating Ge.2:7. "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

Dry ground in the second instance refers to God planting the Garden where the tree of life is implied.

Third instance refers to the unclean spirit and the prince of the power of the air.