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General insight on how to and how not to pray.

I may have touched on specific examples of prayers that I have seen answered. The clear teaching from James is that we shouldn't focus on things to satisfy our own "lusts" ( James 4:3). Another specific prayer that we need to be cautious with is praying for any individual to be saved. This is likely to elicit a hotbed of controversy in regard to those who are called; chosen and predestined. But it shows PRESUMPTION; that our desire for someone's spiritual fate must line up with God's plans. Whether we follow this viewpoint or not; we simply do not know whether someone is going to respond to the message of salvation or not.

What we CAN do in this case is ask for God to show favor so that a person is able to hear about the Gospel from other individuals; as well as have circumstances come up that force them to think on spiritual things. Another problem is that short term we tend to be impatient rather than waiting on God's timing; allowing difficult trials to do their work; or thinking we have to be the ones to be used by God to convert someone. If we obsess too much on those we know and love; of course we can be ignoring those who in the flesh we either wouldn't consider or we find repulsive; not thinking in terms of how God would transform someone and they would become part of our family in Christ as adopted sons or daughters.

Anyway; back to general prayers. Many pray for the "peace of Israel" ( Psalm 122:6) but without realizing the prophetic plans God has in the time of Jacob's trouble ( Jeremiah 30:7) we can only see a temporary fix with such a prayer. When we pray for everyone to be healed we surely can't ignore scriptures even in the time of Paul the Apostle which indicated that indeed people would become ill. And in terms of a general praise and such; it is a prelude to prayer in order to demonstrate how we are getting to know Christ and vice verse and alone isn't a prayer per se.

An overview of Psalms and David's prayers (and those of others).

In a chronological overview of David's life; I have briefly touched His life in the first stage from when he was a young shephard boy until he was crowned king and all the struggles he had dealing with Saul. The next stage of his life could be listed as early kingship and would involve the initial debacle with Bathsheba and then further military campaigns. It would then focus on the struggle with Absalom and Amnon; his other major infraction taking the census; and finally his later years when he focused attention on preparations to build the Temple and transition power to Solomon.

Looking at the Psalms; it not only is out of sequence with 1 and 2 Samuel; for instance and the other O.T. books describing this series of events in order; but also makes many prayers unclear as to what they specifically were referring to as to a particular struggle David was having. Psalm 3; for instance refers to the struggles David was having with Absolom; specifically when he had to flee when his son was attempting to usurp the throne.

I am not a scholar; so perhaps some insight and discussion is in order as to what exactly denotes a prayer. Psalm 1 as an example is a very general sort of wisdom as to those who are deeply rooted and as with much of scripture; contrasts the righteous with the wicked. Such a general statement is more like Proverbs than a prayer; but it raises the question just how general a scope of prayer should be. I think it behooves us to be just as cautious with a general prayer as with a specific one. There are differences as to the reasons for this; as I would say that a general prayer can be said that contradicts scripture perhaps more clearly than a specific one. In either case; of course reverence toward the Lord is required if indeed He is to intercede and answer in heavenly places. Let me continue this thought in the next post.

hey Oseas, since the waters represent nations, tongues, basically a "populated" area.. I have understood the beast coming out of the "earth" as being a sparsely populated place. I don't see the "Israel" connection in that. Would be glad to see your input on that, in the interest of edification mind you, I'm not "arguing" the point, it's just, the "Israel" symbol seems out of place here.

Your comments are of course; well thought out and-if I wanted to corner you on an issue it would be next to impossible (not that I'd want to do that).

As to creating anything in God's image; that I think speaks to your original point in that God has uniqueness in His essense that can't be properly duplicated. It also would be inferior any image man makes of Him. Such is the case perhaps with the Shroud of Turin; which is another "can of worms" so to speak. My point is that even if we get a fair comprehension of what Jesus actually looked like we need to see Him as Peter did when inspired by the Spirit He said that Jesus was the Son of God; and of course "doubting Thomas" also believed without actually having to touch Jesus after his request Post Resurrection. (He said "my Lord and my God") To worship Jesus as a great prophet or sage even when on earth was dangerous and without recognizing who He really was through the Spirit resulted in eternal separation from God. I would use John 16:8 once again here in examining the role of the Holy Spirit to show us who Christ truly was. Without the Spirit and such knowledge man is reduced to his own concept of who Christ was; the essense of what he taught (as a bunch of "do good" moral statements such as would be interpreted with the Sermon on the Mount or perhaps the 10 Commandments. Man also would do as some I won't mention by name and attempt to separate the God of the Old Testament and His ways from what the New Covenant represents.

This likely feeds into this lukewarm; feel good Jesus who of course was loved by all and never said anything divisive.

Back to the main idea. I would suggest that man's best attempt to make an image or portrait of Christ would likely instead draw Satan himself. The fact is without spiritual discernment we cannot differentiate between the shining one (Lucifer) or his angels and God and His angels. Perhaps this is beyond what you intended with this subject..so carry on.

Ps.110:1 "My right hand" (3 of 3)

"And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;"(19:17)

The soul aspect of Trinity sets symbols and allegories each of which has a body when the Mind of God is transcribed into words. It is thus the seed in itself set in the everlasting covenant is presented as a tree of righteousness. Things of the natural world is given a body as the tree so correct interpretation shall be comparing spiritual with spiritual. "And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither" What is stated in the covenant has its natural body as the Word can be the Word become flesh as well as a spiritual body,("To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days," -Ac.1:3). The same tree is established as the tree of life compounded as the throne of God is compounded as the Throne of God and of the Lamb. (Re.22:1-2)

Angel standing in the sun invites fowls and the Spirit gives its significance in the phrase,'"that fly in the midst of heaven." Compare it with this saying of Jesus, " For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be./For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together." (Matt.24:27-28) The lightening refers to the final where kings of the east consist of the beast, "And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army."(Re.19:19)

God is a Spirit and without clear understanding of Trinity the imposter church setting hermeneutics is an exercise in bad faith. They also have their place in the lake of fire.

Ps.110:1 "My Right Hand" (2 of 3)

Tree of life denotes Jesus Christ as Christ is the true vine. The body of New Jerusalem made up of true worshippers has Christ the head, Zion. The everlasting life is signified by leaves that do not wither.

Coming back to the Psalm quote, It is God who does the fighting and at the end the enemies are made the footstool.

This we shall see in the opening of the book with seven seals. "And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see./And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer." The four beasts serve as the MC so the rider sent out is sent by God. Michael and his angels represent the great congregation, everyone of them a witness from the clouds of witness. So their fight is against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Ep.6:12). In this struggle where do we come in? "Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." The entire array of God's armoury is at disposal, we have a prayer life, "Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;" (Ep.6:13-18)

Instead whom are the imposter church serving?

" The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath."(110:5)

It is thus we see the rider that sets out to conquer in Re.6:1-2 has morphed into the king of kings the Lord of lords. The name Word of God tells all. "And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God."

Trinity gives us the spiritual battle coming under the Spirit where the Word of God fighting under the banner of the slain Lamb which gives us Will of God; The Word, which is God has a body, so vesture dipped in blood explains the blood of martyrs from Abel onwards.

Ps.110:1 "My Right Hand" (1 of 3)

"The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." God is a Spirit. The Psalm quote refers to 'thine enemies.' In Re.12:7 we read of a war Michael and his angels are waging it.So ask ourselves what does "There was war in heaven," mean? St Paul also refers to it, "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." (Ep.6:12) Spiritual wickedness is not fought with conventional weapons and it is to which our key verse indicate. It is God who fights it. What has begun in heaven must be explained from earth as well as from the lower parts as well.

The body as memorial where 24 elders represent all three regions. Everlasting gospel is thus preached from heaven and on earth as well as the time Jesus Christ visited the lower parts and preached the gospel to the spirits in prison. The dead who can hear the voice of the Lord has a body so to speak.(1 Pe.3:19) It is thus the number of elders are set in heaven. (8x3=24)

This analogy explains the nature of body, spirit and soul. The slain Lamb ("as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."-Re.5:6; 13:8) is in the Mind of God. Spirit aspect of Trinity establishes it. The Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world ( John 1:29) is the Son given a body. The Word is God and given a body is the glory of both Power and Wisdom in the Lord God which is one. So spiritual body as distinct from Word become flesh serves as the soul.

God planted trees of righteousness (The world of the Spirit) The true worshippers in the world of the body are the branches abiding in Christ the true vine. In eternity the tree of life is Christ (The soul) and the overcomers "and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations" .

Richard again,

AS to your thought about the persons of the Trinity being interdependent on each other, this is true. What I was stating that God is not dependent on anyone or anything outside of His Being. Yet within the Being of God there is relational interdependence the persons in an eternal way. The Father would not be Father without the Son, and the Word would not be the Son without the Father. The Spirit would not be spirated (breathed out) from the Father and the Son if the Father and the Son did not exist or did not choose to spirate him. There would not be love and agreement exchanged in the Being of God if there were only one person. But there is only one God-He is One in Being but three in persons who are eternally united as One-echad in Hebrew.

Another way to view His Being is that the three persons are interrelated to one another (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) interpenetrated in one another (I am in the Father ad He is in me. The Spirit will dwell in believers and the Father and the Son will dwell also) and integrated with one another inaction in the one Being of God.

On May 17, 2021 I posted in another site that South America is ONE of the 7 heads of the Beast of sea,and is wounded to death, much strongly Brazil.

Re.13:11: I beheld ANOTHER Beast coming up out of the earth; HE has two horns like a lamb,and speaks as a dragon.

So,in near future ANOTHER Beast will rise up of the earth(earth here is Israel,the clay,the dry land),and the first Beast rises up out of sea-it means peoples,nations,multitudes of all tongues)

With the appearance of Man Beast of earth(of Israel),then there will be two powerful Beasts reigning in the Planet Earth.

What I see is that ONE of the SEVEN heads of the first Beast,Beast of sea,it will be wounded to death henceforwards- Revelation 13:3.In my vision,the wounded head by the Sword(a sharp Sword)is/will be South America,much STRONGLY Brazil.The other six heads will be astonished/impressed with the surprising event.

Because of this surprising and mortal religious event,will rise of the earth the Beast like lamb,speaking as a dragon,doing great signs and wonders,he will make fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,and the esoteric,and kabbalistic,and spiritist Judaism will acclaim the Beast like a lamb as their messiah,in fact he is an IMPOSTER,a false messiah- John 5:43-47-and they will enthroned him in the temple of GOD-JERUSALEM.



Then the Beast like a lamb will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God,or that is worshipped;so that he as God will sit in the temple of God,shewing himself that he is God,Even him,whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.2Thes.2:9

And the false messiah of the Jews,as is described above,will try to heal the deadly wound of the Beast of sea,then he will give his Power,and his Seat,and great Authority to the Beast of sea-Re. 13:2-and the deadly wound will be healed:and all the WORLD-Europe,and Asia,Africa,Oceania(Australia),and the three America will stay wondered after the Beast.

Get ready

Perfect, you are right. The Holy Spirit is a Person, the Paraclete, the Comfort - John 15:26 and John 16:12-15 - not a force (a ghost) or power from God. JESUS revealed (through His angel, and John testified) that the person of the Holy Spirit is the God of the earth- Revelation 11:4 combined with Zechariah 4:11-14.

The two olive trees(source of oil -the OT and NT, two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of THEMSELVES- Zechariah 4:11-14) , and the two candlesticks(two Churches: the Gentile Church and the Jewish Church- Hebrews 12:22-24) are standing before the God of the earth-the person of the Holy Spirit.

1John 5:7 - There are three that bear record (testify) in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8), the Father(GOD Father), the Word(the Word made flesh-JESUS), and the Holy Spirit (who is a Person, not a ghost as is written in English language due to translators' carelessness): and these three are One. (Great mystery. Would not he be the younger brother of JESUS- Luke 15:30-32 combined with prophecy of Isaiah 7:15-16. Take a look. Great mystery.)

Richard,

Your comments do not cause any difficulty. I purposely did not include information on Jesus humanity because I was speaking only to His divinity in the Godhead in my posts on Him being God. I agree that He is forever God and man in one person and that He will forever have a human body with His scars but glorified as our bodies will be in the eternal state.

Also, when the Bible speaks of God seeing, hearing, and smelling and any other sensing as a body made of matter will do, the Bible is speaking anthropomorphically so that we can understand Him more easily. Can God take on an appearance of having a body? Yes, He did so in the Old Testament times with Abraham and Jacob, Isaiah and Ezekiel and Daniel. But these forms are not what God is eternally like. He is Spirit, but able to make Himself visible to mankind as having a body.

For God in His essence to have a body eternally would interfere with his limitless, infinite, boundless Being. He is not limited by time, space, or matter. But as a Spirit, does He have a permanent form? His commandment to not make any physical representation of Him is one clue that He does not. Does He have an image as it says we were made in His image? I really cannot say that He does or does not eternally in His essence, but since He eternally chose for the Son to become man, this knowledge would avail Him to make ma in the image of the Son made man.

Thanks for bringing this up. In trying to stick with the topic and not go sideways into other biblical aspects, it will inevitably leave some truths unstated or unexplained. I believe that we will see God in Jesus. Whether we will see the Father alongside Jesus, it seems that Jesus said that He was in the Father and the Father was in Him and that if one sees Jesus they are seeing the Father.

This is unfortunately a drawback to singling out aspects of God's Being because He is a unified whole. Some have said that He is His attributes. They are not something He acquires or changes

J,

There is nothing impossible with God. Just now I prayed for your complete healing. I am also on insulin and have an eye damaged, and with legs barely holding up. Despite of it all God helped me so far and for complete recovery I have placed my need into His hands. His grace has been sufficient to me. May God fully restore your health and of your son and bless your family. Amen..

Ps.40:9 "The great congregation"

Before we move onto the topic let us consider the significance of Selah in Ps.87. The Spirit uses to mark change in an idea. vv.1-3 refers to Zion. Selah. vv.4-6. Selah. "And the highest himself shall establish her"(v.5). This is annotated elsewhere as being planted by God. "But he (Jesus) answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up."Matt.15:13) So predestination gives us a position in the divine Will we are trees planted by God in the divine Will. So in the everlasting covenant we are referred having the seed in ourselves. The third day refers to the Son. God command and "And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good."(Ge.1:10-11). Those abiding in Christ(the true vine) produces fruits in the Spirit 'Without me you can do nothing Jesus. What St Paul speaks of natural and wild olive trees must be considered from the covenant of the seed in itself.

So what does the tree planted by the river denote? "And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither." We are compared to trees of righteousness,"and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations."(Re.22:2) Isaiah compares Jesus as a tender plant out of 'dry ground' signifying his heavenly antecedent(Is.53:3) The Spirit uses the same tag in the valley of dry bones. It is about the church and not of Israel per se. The leaves that do not wither refer to the same great congregation. In the new earth they are kings and priest so healing of nation must explains for the nations in the outer darkness.

We shall see the same great congregation following the rider on the white horse. " And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean." (Re,19:14)

Ps.40:9 "The great congregation" (1 of 2)

"I have preached righteousness in the great congregation"

In the vision of John we are given them responding to the memorial in heaven. This body signifies Trinity which this psalm alludes to. 'A body hast thou me prepared' refers to the Son so those who are blessed are his brethren. "Saying, I will declare thy name unto my brethren, in the midst of the church will I sing praise unto thee," refers to the Son of man."The Lord shall count, when he writeth up the people, that this man was born there."(Ps.87:5-6) So let us be specific the memorial in heaven is about the last Adam. True worshipers are born there in Zion. By the same token where the false worshipers are born? "I will make mention of Rahab and Babylon to them that know me: behold Philistia, and Tyre, with Ethiopia; this man was born there," Cursed are they who made flesh his arm.

There is a number given to those who are thus counted. "And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands."(Re.5:11). Compare this with the number given in the vision of Daniel. " A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him." These angels are clouds of witnesses and they represent all those who are born in Zion. It is thus we need to consider the world of the Spirit and of the earth in real time. Now is the day of salvation refers both. One third of the stars in heaven could be cast down because man on the earth proved to be a false worshipper. " And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth."

What does the tail signify? The prophet who teaches lie is the tail. (Is.9:15). So our salvation explains the spiritual bodies.

I am posting this in the wee hours since I woke up around 3.0 AM with this revelation

Sorry to crash your study series but wanted to clarify a few things.

There were; as you know several times that Christ was said to appear in His Preincarnate form in the Old Testament. Whether it was God Himself or Christ can be a tricky affair. We also see indications that God indeed has eyes; ears; and smell as humans do in various passages. We also have Christ; Post Resurrection who now in a glorified body still has the marks from His crucifixion since he saw no decay as the prophecies indicate ( Psalm 16:10 also stating that He wouldn't remain in Sheol). I suppose in summation we could say that since He created man in His image there are some things that would appear similar; albeit His unique position as Deity.

I suppose one could surmise how we will appear in our glorified bodies. I have stated how interesting it is that only He will have any marks on His body as opposed to anyone else in heaven.

As to Him not being dependent on anything or anyone; I suppose I could look at the Trinity as a concept and say that there is a sort of interdependence there. Christ could do nothing at least on His earthly ministry; God was to exalt Him in time and basically delegate ruling over the earth even though of course Christ was involved with the Creation in the first place. Of course God had to remain in heaven at that time; or the whole universe would cease to exist. The Holy Spirit; of course works as comforter and convicting men of sin as well as reminding us of all He taught us. Perhaps we could say that the Holy Ghost has no body or substance even like the Father and Son.

Anyway I don't want to cause any difficulty here in you communicating your message. (Just thought of another corroborating text in the sixth seal of Revelation where the world hides from He who sits on the Throne and the wrath of the Lamb (Christ).

I guess I am being difficult. I can avoid commenting if you prefer as I realize there ain't much I can say you don't know already.

The Holy Spirit is God, a divine Person, not a force or power from God.

He is eternal as God is: Heb. 9:14. He gives eternal life: John 6:63, 2 Cor. 3:6 ( Rom. 6:23 says that God gives eternal life and Jn. 10:28 Jesus says He gives eternal life) Only God can give eternal life.

He was with the Father and the Son "in the beginning" and created all things with them ( Gen. 1:3; Ps. 104:30)

He knows all things: 1 Cor. 2:20. Therefore, he is omniscient and has an intellect (mind). He is able to control a believer's mind ( Rom. 8:6).

He sent the Son into the world with the Father (Is. 48:16)

He regenerates sinners to come to faith and be saved ( Jn. 3:3,8). He baptizes believers ( 1Cor. 12:13, Acts 11:16).

He can be blasphemed ( Mt. 12:31, Mk. 3:29) Only God can be blasphemed.

He vindicated Jesus in raising Him from the dead ( 1Tim 3:16). The Scriptures teach that God raised Jesus from the dead ( Acts 2:24; 10:40; that Jesus raised Himself from the dead ( Jn. 2:19), and that the Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead (2Cr. 4:14).

He is a person just as the Father and the Son are Persons. Not as we think of person in that each human is an individual being, but that He is a divine person unified in the One God.

As a person, He has emotions. He can be resisted ( Acts 7:51), can be pleased ( Gal. 6:8), quenched, grieved ( Eph. 4:30; Is 63:10), insulted ( Heb. 10:29).

As a person, He acts. He speaks ( Rev. 2:7; Acts. 13:2). He inspired Scriptures to be written ( 2Pet. 1:21). He teaches ( Jn. 14:26). He guides ( Jn. 16:13). He convicts of sin ( Jn. 16:8). He contends with man (Gen, 6:3).

In Acts 5 he is called God in the account of Ananias and Sephora, saying they lied to the Holy Spirit in vs. 3 and then reframes the statement by declaring that they have lied to God in vs. 4. Here the Holy Spirit is called God by God's inspiration to Luke.

The Holy Spirit is not a force, nor an emanation from God, not something God created-but a divine Person who united in the Being of God.

To continue with studying Who God Is:

God is "Spirit" and God is the "holy spirit".

Jesus told the women in Samaria clearly that God's essential nature is that of pure Spirit. He has no earthly or physical matter as we have and all of creation has. We know that angels and the heavenly hosts are of celestial substance, not earthly. Yet, I do not think that the pure Spirit of God is the same as the substance of their nature. No created being can have the same essential nature as God has. Since God is pure Spirit and exists without any hindrance from any form of matter or substance He created, He can be everywhere present at once. Yet Scripture does say that the Father dwells in unapproachable light, so He must have uniqueness in His living existence that is beyond what has been created.

Since God is only Spirit, he is not composed of parts or different things that are combined to make His Being. If this was so, then He would be dependent on these components for His existence. He said He is altogether NOT like us. ( Ps. 50:21). We should not think He is anything like anything He has made. He is altogether different in essence, nature, and existence as pure Spirit.

"But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus." Philippians 4:19 KJV

I stand in agreement, as a believer, with this petition before God.

"And the LORD, he it is that doth go before thee; he will be with thee, he will not fail thee, neither forsake thee: fear not, neither be dismayed." Deuteronomy 31:8 KJV

"There shall not any man be able to stand before thee all the days of thy life: as I was with Moses, so I will be with thee: I will not fail thee, nor forsake thee." Joshua 1:5 KJV

"Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee." Deuteronomy 31:6 KJV

I stand in agreement with the believers petition before God.

"(To the chief Musician on Neginoth, A Psalm or Song.) God be merciful unto us, and bless us; and cause his face to shine upon us; Selah." Psalms 67:1 KJV

"Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:" Philippians 2:5 KJV

"Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots." Luke 23:34 KJV

"He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them which hated me: for they were too strong for me." Psalms 18:17 KJV

"In the fear of the LORD is strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge." Proverbs 14:26 KJV

Standing in agreement with you for peace during this time. Amen.

I pray God provides the good and right resources you may need to aid you in overcoming these different matters and that God gives you peace during this time.

"Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you." 2 Corinthians 13:11 KJV

"And the LORD shall help them, and deliver them: he shall deliver them from the wicked, and save them, because they trust in him." Psalms 37:40 KJV

Believe God, "He is faithful and just to deliver" only believe. I stand in agreement with you and regarding your and others needing deliverance because God is "no respect of persons." "only believe" and walk in the deliverance that Jesus has provided. Amen.

"Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me." Micah 7:7 KJV

Hi,

You are asking a very good question.

We say death, however it is a transition into eternity. Eternity means No end. Death on earth means we no longer exist on earth or in the land of the living. Our life on earth or earthly existence is temporary, like a temporary job. Our flesh or human bodies are temporary houses or homes for our spirit. Our spirit ("spirit person" or "spirit being") is eternal and will transition to "heaven" where God is if we are holy "as He is holy" or to "hell" away or separated from God if one transitions and is not holy or righteous in the sight of God (or not meeting God's requirements). Our life on earth is considered a fleshy or earthly existence. Life here on earth is very precious because it is limited, we have a limited time to connect with God and be delivered from Adam's sin, so that God will accept us. You can look at the scriptures that speak on after Jesus rose from the dead, where Jesus was in a glorified body, (a spirit form of his natural body) that is why the disciples recognized Jesus. When a person transitions (or dies) they will be in spirit form however the question is where will they spend eternity when they die?

Always know that Jesus loves all of us no matter and that it's Gods will "that no man perish" everyone is free to choose for themselves where they will spend eternity, by taking action.

Here are some scriptures that came to mind you might want to search on this website, and use the button Similar Verses to review other scriptures that may aid in your question.

"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." Philippians 2:12 KJV

"Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls." Matthew 11:29 KJV

(there are scriptures in the bible that speak more about about death, dying, being raised from the dead and eternity)

"Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience." James 1:3 KJV

God being all knowing. How long will the test or trying of faith last? When will the trying of your faith end? When will tests and trials end. It will last as long as God allows it to last. Why so long? Because God knows how much a believer an bear (even though the believer, themselves may not realize how much they can actually bear). The trying of our faith comes from God. He (God) created the test therefore He knows how long it should last. God created and administers all tests according to each ones ability. The testing of our faith comes from God. If the test lasts longer than we think it should then the believer needs to exam and question themselves as to why God saw fit to give a test that does not seem to end. A believer should be glad if God allows some relief or happy times during the trying of their faith and if the trying of faith lasts a long time or seems like it will never end then know that God is working things out for the good of the believer (you want to go to heaven right?). If a believer wants to see God's face in peace, a believer (with God's help) must endure to the end, wavering or wanting nothing (in other words you want to live a right according to the word of God), "be steadfast" "be unmovable" "continue in the faith" "be Christ minded" "focus on the things of God" God knows where a believer (or sinner is) at all times "he never sleeps nor slumbers" "the only wise God." It's not so much that the test is so trying it's that sinful flesh is so corrupt...and it will take the trying or testing of a believers faith to ensure a believer qualifies to exist in the presence of God, here on earth and then in eternity. "be still and know that He is God"

Ps.2:2 "Why do the heathen rage?"

"The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,"

The heathen are the false worshippers who want only literal context and also hermeneutics fit with their flesh: politically correct is one way they muzzle truth. So when one polician speaks of 'migrant caravan' the mouthpiece of imposter church repeats the lie from his radio show. It is a conspiracy nevertheless. The Psalm faults their conspiracy being against the Lord and his anointed.

There is nothing hidden so when one speaks truth it shall so happen that it is as one shouted it from roof top. "Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops."( Luke 12:2-3). The false worshippers, the heathen forget that those who are counted as being born in Zion have their own life in the world of the Spirit. The Psalm calls them as the great congregation. A clue of which we have in Re.5. The 24 elder well knew who was worthy to break open the book with seven seals. The Memorial in Heaven is the body of heaven. The elders and the four beast know the mind of God and when they worship God we hear the great congregation responding. "And I beheld, and I heard the voice of many angels round about the throne and the beasts and the elders: and the number of them was ten thousand times ten thousand, and thousands of thousands;"(Re.5:11-14) We have another incident where whatever war plan the King of Syria discussed the prophet would get the wind of it.

This congregation shall establish truth in that day when soul of man is before the white throne. So do I worry if what I post here in this forum, as 'tares'? If truth is lie to them it is God who shall defend me. I am heard and what the Spirit has had shall reward me accordingly. " Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling."(Ps.2:11)

Everlastig covenant: everlasting burnings

Is.34:8

"For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion." What was the controversy of Zion? It is what made the sinners in Zion afraid. God counted everyone born in Zion. True worshippers were glad and those who made flesh his arm made a lie of the promises of God and of his holiness. It is thus we see who are the blessed and who are the sons of perdition. The latter would not enter into the day seven. So the beast with the number 666 denotes the body is from Adam who disobeyed God and was expelled from His presence. His spirit and soul are equally tained so 666 fits these sons of perdition.

In an earlier post we discussed the lie the imposter church used to further their earthly glories. Satan tempted the sinners of Zion the earthly glories. They took it with both hands. Jesus rejected the tempter. "Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."( Matt.4:10) So the sons of Adam are a different for whom their inheritance is cast in the outer darkness. (De.32:8). What was 'the curse of Ham?

The first written use of the Curse of Ham to justify slavery appeared in the 15th century, when a Portuguese historian, and In the American colonies the Curse of Ham served as the ideological justification for African slavery. The Puritan colonisers of the New World bought slaves in large numbers to turn Providence, Rhode Island, into a Christian "city on a hill". All were deemed the progeny of Canaan. Of the many ways that Christians have invoked the Bible to justify their actions, none has exceeded in cruelty and wilful ignorance their appropriation of the "Curse of Ham" to justify slavery. Government officials and slave traders were instantly sold to the idea: Moralizing effect of salvation to the soul of a slave as though depended on systematic violence. Do you not see Ro.5:12 in action?

What happens to u when u die?

Everlasting covenant- the lights to rule (2 of 2)

There cannot be everlasting burnings without the everlasting covenant. Where does the true worshippers dwell?"He shall dwell on high: his place of defence shall be the munitions of rocks: bread shall be given him; his waters shall be sure."(Is.34:14-16). So the nations that dare not come to the true light because their deeds are evil are interchangeable. Cursed are they so the light to rule in the everlasting covenant shall be till their second death.

"And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified." (Re.11:8) Jerusalem is cursed as much as Egypt is. Coming back to the emerging nations in Ge.10 they are moving farther away "as they journeyed from the east" (11.2) are all under the curse. So what does Noah cursing Canaan would indicate? Canaan as with every other have made flesh his arm. "And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth./He was a mighty hunter before the Lord" Jeremiah's verse tells the true facts while "sinners in Zion" underpin the evil of slavery on the basis of color. They dare not come to the light because they have a culture war to fight.

1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.

This darkness shall have the days and nights and the light is provided from the new earth. God is merciful and for the sinners lake of fire is the last stop.

For the saints redeemed from the earth God gives them light. "And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever."(Re.22:5)