Bible Discussion Replies PAGE 332

  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Momsage,

    "For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified." Jesus Christ perfected in his body so sin is atoned forever. The everlasting covenant commemorates Fellowship of God with Man. "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love."(Ep.1:4) We were chosen and we are sanctified when we receive him in faith and our works are faith-based. So the Parable of talents teaches who go to life eternal and who eternal condemnation. (Matt.25:40). When he ascended he has a position: when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high." He is there as "Melchizedek" the high priest for those who are sanctified. Our service is only faith and works without which merely lip-service to justification is hogwash. His priestly service on earth is done with. He brought grace and truth so our works may be as perfect as his offering.
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    "All Nations" Ro.5:12 (Continued)

    God is omnipotent who has no need for plan B. Thus everlasting covenant with Man requires no other covenant. There is a lie that is currently in circulation and what is working behind literalism is not difficult to fathom. Satan sent a strong delusion and the imposter church is sold lock stock and barrel to him. God would soon commission Israel over the golden calf " Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation." (Ex.32:10; " and will make of thee a greater nation and mightier than they"-Nu.14:12). Notwithstanding this when it came to the question of atonement for their sins, God refused him "Yet now, if thou wilt forgive their sin--; and if not, blot me, I pray thee, out of thy book which thou hast written./And the Lord said unto Moses, Whosoever hath sinned against me, him will I blot out of my book."(Ex.32:32-33). God has a book already where His covenant is with the Son. It is to which St Paul refers,"so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous."(Ro.5:19) The blood of Jesus Christ on earth refers to the slain Lamb in the Mind of God. It also explains how God made coat of skins for Adam and Eve despite of their transgression. Israel has no claim to what they had rejected. So eternal burnings are on the basis of the everlasting covenant.

    "And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth."(Matt.25:30) One unprofitable man owed to one man's disobedience. "Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life."(Ro.5:18) Justification of llife does not come by itself as imposter church teaches, Faith with works means, "Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." Works is Christ-based
  • Momsage - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I'm sorry GiGi but frankly what you've said in this comment is the most unbelievable stuff I've ever heard in my 50 years of being a Christian. Jesus DIDN'T have a human nature because He wasn't born of man let alone drag the thing along with Him when He ascended into heaven. God is God and in no way does He have a "human nature " as part of Him. Sorry. :(
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    Ro 5:12 "All nations"

    All nations have one common father. Adam as the son of God.( Luke 3:38) "Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:"(5:12)

    In the body of Trinity memorialised the man ("and the third beast had a face as a man,"-Re.4:7) we have the last Adam so when St Paul refers to him "so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous." (5:19) one does denote nation but last Adam. When God says 'let us make man in our image and after our image the original already existed before the throne.The 24 elders signify the body of Christ. Jesus as the Word become flesh was in the Mind of God. Their golden crowns and white raiments attest that he did no sin and knew no sin. God's rest ("and he rested on the seventh day"-Ge.2:2) mentioned at the conclusion of the everlasting covenant proves this. In short spiritual bodies refers to both sets. The eagle, the lion and the calf are associated with the quality of the Last Adam. The tables of stone and circumcision have no place in heaven.

    Moses broke the first set of stones. "and he cast the tables out of his hands, and brake them beneath the mount."(Ex.37:19) This second set is written by God signifying that it shall be on the tables of heart. Moses was only to bring up with stone tables into his presence. He himself writes them as before. But the tables of heart is the covenant he made with Moses and not with Israel. "And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."(34:28b)

    Covenant with Moses was consequential. The glory of God required a veil meaning of the glory to follow. "the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ." It foreshadows the advent of Jesus Christ. Moses stood there as the double for the Son. Also significant is that God only showed Moses 'his backparts'. At every level we are shown Israel's role was in relation to the Son.
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    Matt.25:31-32 "All nations"

    "And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another."

    The Son is given all authority in heaven and on the earth.(Matt.28:17)

    This verse refers to the Son of man coming in his glory. 'and all the holy angels with him,' is the fulfillment of what was shown to Daniel in a night vision. So the Spirit gives us a clue:"And, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him./ And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."(Dan.7:13-14). 'One like the Son of man' refers to the vision. It is the mind of God revealed in human speech. Similarly the night vision is distinct from day vision. What Peter at Joppa saw in a trance was of current events. The gentiles are also part of the church since the outpouring of the Holy Ghost.

    Second point is that everlasting covenant is of individuals and not of nations per se. Thus national identity of Israel being in the Mind of God is as much as a lie as the curse of Ham is on account of his color. The covenant is about man whosoever is sanctified in his Son. Thus the imposter church refusing to see truth owes to a strong delusion that they believe in the lie. For it suits them. The blessed is the man" the Ps.1 tells us. It refers to the covenant and the man is created 'in our image and af ter our likeness' He is separated as the Parable teaches us, and eternal life is for them. For this reason the covenant begins with separation of light from darkness. v,46 "everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    Psalms 115:17

    17The dead praise not the Lord, neither any that go down into silence.

    And JESUS said (around 2000 years ago): let the dead (they which have not the Spirit of GOD, Spirit of life) bury their dead. Matthew 8:17

    Daniel 12:1-2 combined with 1Thessalonians 4:16

    Michael comes first, and after of him comes Lord JESUS.

    12:1 at that time(at this current time, or at this Day, the Lord's Day, the seventh and last Day/millennium)shall Michael (the archangel) stand up, ...

    12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake (RESURRECTION), some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

    1 Thes.4:15- For this we say unto you by the Word of the Lord (the Word is GOD, self-executing), that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent(precede) them which are asleep.

    1 Thes. 4:16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel-Michael- , and with the Trump of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first.

    And 1Corinthians 15:51-54 reveal:

    51 Behold, I shew you a mystery;We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,(Compare with Philippians 3:20-21)

    52 ...at the last trump:for the trumpet shall sound,and the dead shall be raised incorruptible,and we shall be changed.

    (the trumpet shall sound:Re.11:15-And the seventh angel sounded;and there were great voices in heaven(heaven??? Ephesians 1:3-8), saying, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. Matthew 5:5-JESUS said: Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth).

    53 For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. (CAUGHT???)

    54 So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written,Death is swallowed up in victory.-Hallelujaaaah!!!

    Get ready --> Matthew 25:10
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Good evening, Richard.

    I understand that you may be being led by the Spirit to step back from posting. Or, maybe there are things that God wants you to give more attention to and so you will post less often. I hope it is the latter because I do enjoy what you post. I t is helpful to me as it makes me consider topics that have not been brought to my mind before I read your post.

    Be encouraged, you are appreciated here.

    Going to the doctor tomorrow with my daughter-in-law to check to see how ready she is for labor to start. I think she will probably go to her due date on Friday or later. She goes up the stairs in our house far too comfortably and she doesn't have the "waddle" with the grimace holding her belly when she walks around. She and the rest of us hope she doesn't go into labor until Wednesday or later. But according to what I've read, it is the baby that sends the signal to the uterus and brain to begin labor when the lungs are ready to breath air. It is so amazing how God created all of this to work without any one interfering (because such "assistance in starting labor" is rarely helpful).

    Would appreciate your prayers for her and baby in these last days and for the labor and delivery to go well without problems.
  • GiGi - In Reply on Genesis 1 - 2 years ago
    Hello, Adam, You are missed. Hope to hear more from you.
  • Cingoodstanding - 2 years ago
    Food for thought:

    I believe we as Christian should stop and decide not to speak on things we do not know. We as Christians should never argue Christ with a non believer. The bible clearly states you should state what Christ means to you and then allow the Holy Spirit to do it's good work on the non believer. I sometimes believe Christ puts us in a place or time to spread the gospal based on our belief not the un-believer. There is nothing wrong with directing them to the bible. But make sure you explain to them how to read the bible.

    In the pass, I have spoken and tried to convince someone about Christ. I now alway try to remember that they cannot see it from my point of view because they have not accepted what I have accepted to to see clearly Christ is all in all.

    I'm always aware that I could be conversing with a demon , etc. Reason that I stay prayed up and I'm always in a state of mind that I through Jesus Christ have the power to do anything. Speak and Declare, Cast out and Rebuke, etc. But most of all pray without ceasing until my answers comes.

    So, until Christ comes, I truly believe we should study the bible to make ourselves approved, mind our own business, step up to the plate to defend our Faith in Jesus Christ when and where necessary and ask GOD who is able to open the bible to you and give you wisdom, knowledge and understanding to live this great life he gave us.

    GOD is no respector of person. So if he calls you to do somethng, go and do it!

    GOD is awesume and worthy to be praised.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi Momsage,

    Good to hear back from you.

    As to your first concern.

    We know that Jesus is forever our high priest and mediator between mankind and the Father. ( Heb. 510; 6:20; 8:6; 1 Tim. 2:5.

    The doctrine that Jesus will forever remain God and man is commonly held doctrine throughout the centuries. If you have not heard of it, perhaps you can try to learn more about it historically before dismissing it.

    At Jesus' ascension, the angels told the disciples that Jesus would return in the SAME manner as He ascended. This not only means "on the clouds" but in the same body.

    As to your second concern about Jesus being everywhere present. His divine nature is not confined to within His human body. As the divine Son of God, He can be everywhere present because He always has the divine spirit nature as the Father and Holy Spirit.

    He told the disciples that He would always be with them, EACH of them individually. ( Mt. 28:20) He said that the Father and the Son will come and make their abode in the believer who loves God and obeys His commands. ( Jn. 14:2). Jesus' divine nature is limitless, but His human nature, though glorified is limited. He can live as God in His human nature AND also fill the universe as His Father and the Spirit can. His divine nature can be everywhere present but His human nature is limited. Jesus sits on the throne in heaven as "God made flesh" and also abides in every believer in His divine nature.

    As the your third concern about Paul's instruction. He was many years in the Arabian desert where he was given the gospel message from the risen Jesus Himself (see Galatians 1:11-17; 1Cor. 11:23).
  • Jaz - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Yes Brother , we call ourselves Christians but we are Israel ! Physical Israel was born of the covenant of physical circumcision and the law of Moses , spiritual Israel is born through Christ , the circumcision of the heart and the law of love !
  • Richard H Priday - 2 years ago
    I am going to attempt to slow down here; and focus attention on my personal walk; a more comprehensive study of the Word and evangelism opportunities.

    As to the Psalms study and prayer; Psalm 3 seems to begin an actual prayer of David and is case specific as stated in the intro. as relating to the troubles with Absolom. I will have to seek the Lord as to whether I should go through each Psalm whether it is a prayer or not. I think I may have started something with Psalms a year or two ago and didn't complete it on this site. There are certain Psalms that should be grouped together according to the way they were originally constructed. Some stuff like Psalm 22 is applicable to David and the Messiah but we should basically look at is as any other inspired scripture; we can repeat it to reassure ourselves of His promises or learn the text; but it is not a prayer uniquely. Finally; of course I don't want to place undo focus on the end time ramifications, although understanding the big picture is helpful.

    As much as I enjoy this site; I fear that it may be at the expense of me growing in other areas as well as keeping me from facing situations that need to be dealt with. The focus should always be on scripture reading as well as the subject at hand; prayer. I probably am as guilty as anyone else in just forging ahead with a topic; or in my case in particular a concept and bolstering it with scripture. I need to consider if at the time it is edifying; and possibly undo questions it will raise. Trying to use whatever cleverness I have rather than Godly wisdom is not the best approach.

    That being said; as Paul said the love of Christ constrains us ( 2 Cor. 5:14). The verse goes on to describe how we die to self in an analogy to Christ's sacrifice and a life of service. I appreciate all the input; as well as love and support. The love of many is said to grow cold in the end times; and that would also I would argue include professing Christians.
  • Dochon10_7_2 - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hello,

    The Holy Bible is a Unified Story Leading to Jesus! The other matters you inquire you will need to reference Britannica et al (and others). Because The Holy Bible is for believers it does not need to be all-inclusive with the other aspects of life/living. There are more than a plethora available - hardback and digital!

    Perhaps this will eliminate your quest for finding non-correlated "evidences" @ Holy Bible. :)

    #Serve The One True Yehovah-God Jesus! Se'Lah

    Sh'ma Israel: The LORD our God is One
  • Momsage - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Hi GiGi: It is good to be back to posting again. I hope all is well with your daughter-in-law and the baby. I know the thrill of having grandchildren, I have nine and my first great-grandchild was born a few months ago. Her family lives in Alaska and I'm in Tennessee so I haven't seen her in person yet.

    I have enjoyed reading the comments between you and Richard about the Godhead. They are pretty good, however, you said something I don't understand. You might be totally correct about it, I never thought of it before but what did you mean when you said " He will forever have a human body." I know His scars were visible when He walked on earth before He ascended into Heaven but then didn't He go back to being God without anything "human" being a part of Him as God? God is a spirit or else how could He be all knowing, all powerful and everywhere at all times so how does a human body fit into that? These are honest questions because, as I said, I've never heard of this before.

    Also, I probably misunderstood you, but it seemed in one of your other postings you indicated Paul sat under the teachings of Jesus during His earthly ministry; "but as a born again person and after spending many years in the desert learning from Jesus and the Spirit." This is what i am talking about. God Bless :)
  • Ronald Whittemore - 2 years ago
    Just a little on when Jesus returns.

    Scripture tells us Jesus returns only one time, Zachariah 14:4 Matthew 24:30 Acts 1:11 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 Hebrews 9:28 Rev. 1:7 Rev. 6:15-16. When Jesus returns those who are chosen and faithful are resurrected to reign on earth with Jesus, Rev. 17:14 Daniel 2:44 Daniel 7:26-27 2 Timothy 2:12 Rev. 5:10 Rev. 11:15.

    This reign on earth begins after the tribulation and the armies of Satan, the beast, the false prophet, and the ten kings/countries of the beast who destroy mystery Babylon come to battle Jesus in the battle of Armageddon, Zachariah 14:1-3 Ezekiel 39:17-22 Rev. 19:17-19 Rev. 16:13-16. In Rev. 20 we see Satan bound and sealed in the bottomless pit for 1000 years. Jesus then sets up the Kingdom on earth and we see the judgment of those in the first resurrection who will be reigning with Jesus on earth for 1000 years Rev. 20:4-6.

    The 1000-year Kingdom will be on the earth, but it will be very different from the world today without the temptation of Satan, Isaiah 65:25 Zechariah 14:16 It will be a time when Lord Jesus and those chosen to rule the nations with an iron rod so that all the promises of God be fulfilled, all the boundaries of land God promised Abraham have never been, Genesis 15:18-20 Numbers 34:1-12 but they will in the future.

    We know from Rev. 20:7-10, that there will be nations after the 1000 years that Satan will go out to deceive and bring them together to battle. After this battle, a fire burns up the earth and Satan is cast into the lake of fire, "the earth and the heaven fled away" The final Judgment of the white throne is not just for the lost, and all in this judgment who is not found in the Book of Life will be cast into the lake of fire, Rev. 20:11-15, Daniel 12:2 Matthew 25:32-46 John 5:28-29.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Amen Abebatabat.

    Romans 11:30-32.

    For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

    Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.

    For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

    God is speaking of the NATURAL BRANCHES. Paul's Kinsman of the flesh!

    God bless you.
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    Ps.110:5-7 Annotated (2 of 2)

    (Continued)

    "The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath."

    These kings are labeled the heathen, "Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?/The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against theLord, and against his anointed,"(Ps.2:1-2) "He shall judge among the heathen, he shall fill the places with the dead bodies; he shall wound the heads over many countries."(v.6)

    7He shall drink of the brook in the way: therefore shall he lift up the head.

    This evokes the test God gave Gideon and it is confirmed by the clue the Spirit has consistently followed. "Every one that lappeth of the water with his tongue, as a dog lappeth, him shalt thou set by himself; likewise every one that boweth down upon his knees to drink./And the number of them that lapped, putting their hand to their mouth, were three hundred men."(Ju.7:5-6) The Command number Three refers to the Son. (3x100) attests it. In the case of man 3x10 applies to the service "And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age" ( Luke 3:23) when he began his ministry.

    "he shall wound the heads over many countries."

    Another interesting parallel we have in the life of Gideon in the manner his illegitimate son Abimelech was killed "And a certain woman cast a piece of a millstone upon Abimelech's head, and all to brake his skull."(Ju.9:53) Speed forward we find the angel similarly throwing a stone 'like a great millstone' to finish off Babylon, the generic name for the nations in the outer darkness. (Re.18:21)
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    Ps.110:5-7 Annotated (1 of 2)

    "He shall wound the heads over many countries."(v.6)

    This is precisely what is happening about us. Nations are yet to get a grip on the manner conspiracy theories have thrown a monkey wrench over their works. There are news reports of that human brain is shrinking at a faster rate and with change in life styles, -ultra-processed foods and recreational drugs dementia is everywhere. Apart from nature taking a toll what of moral havoc sown by his attitudes to truth? Alternate reality spun by man in his bubble has a way of splintering his society. Jotham's fable is more likely to play out our very eyes. "Let fire come out of the bramble, and devour the cedars of Lebanon. " (Ju.9:15). We shall come to that while we discuss the next verse.

    One way God has shown his wrath is in the epistle to the church of the Thessalonians. "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"(2 The.2:11). How does Satan work? He has a way of working with those who are lackadaisical toward truth. Loving God 'with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." (De.6:4) Ever studying and yet not coming to truth is a sure sign. What imposter church has taught to take the Bible with a pinch of salt becomes a stony heart. Deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish, is to interpret literally so textual criticism calls for historical context and many distractions besides. The seed sown in their heart is like seed sown by the wayside. "the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:/Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it."(Matt.13:45-46). Comparing spiritual with spiritual needs grace, -and patience and humility which have been given a short shrift in a society where style over substance is favoured. In short Satan has scored a hit because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
  • Oseas - 2 years ago
    Our Lord JESUS said: John 15:1-2

    1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.

    2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit He -the Father- taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, He purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.

    2Peter 3:7- But the heavens(spiritual environment of the OT & NT) and the earth(Israel), which are now, by the same Word are kept in store, reserved unto FIRE against the Day of Judgment (the Lord's Day, the current seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium in which we are living) and perdition of ungodly men.
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 2 years ago
    I am reminded, who is the "Israel" of God? Gal 3:28,29.. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29) And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the "promise" amen to that.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Abebatabat

    Speaking on'Gentiles and the Olive Tree',you'highighted the unity and interdependence of both groups within God's redemptive plan', and"The natural branches(Israel)were broken off due to unbelief, and wild olive shoots(Gentiles)were grafted in'.

    The Word of GOD shows us the existence of two Olive Trees and Two Candlesticks:The two olive trees(source of oil -the OTand NT-, two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of THEMSELVES- Zechariah 4:11-14),and the two candlesticks(two Churches:the Gentile Church,and the Jewish Church- Hebrews 12:22-24)are standing before the God of the earth(the person of the Holy Spirit).

    Many Jews attended the Church in Rome,there were dissensions among them,so Paul wrote:Ro.2:1-11:

    1Therefore thou art inexcusable,O man,whosoever thou art that judgest:for wherein thou judgest another,thou condemnest thyself;for thou that judgest doest the same things.

    2But we are sure that the judgment of GOD is according to truth against them which commit such things.

    3And thinkest thou this,O man,that judgest them which do such things,and doest the same,that thou shalt escape the Judgment of GOD?

    4Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering;not knowing that the goodness of GOD leadeth thee to repentance?

    5But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself WRATH against the Day of WRATH and REVELATION of the righteous Judgment of GOD;

    6Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

    7To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality,ETERNAL LIFE:

    8But unto them that are contentious,and do not obey the Truth,but obey unrighteousness,INDIGNATION AND WRATH,

    9TRIBULATION and ANGUISH,upon every soul of man that doeth evil,of the JEW first,and also of the GENTILE;

    10But glory,honour,and peace,to every man that worketh good,to the JEW first,and also to the GENTILE:

    11For there is no respect of persons with GOD.
  • Abebatabat - 2 years ago
    Romans 11 is a chapter in the New Testament where the Apostle Paul addresses the relationship between Israel and the Gentiles within the context of God's salvation plan. It serves as a theological treatise on God's sovereignty, mercy, and the mystery of His grace.

    The Remnant of Israel

    Paul begins by asserting that God has not rejected His people, Israel. He cites his own identity as an Israelite and references the story of Elijah to illustrate that God always preserves a remnant of faithful believers ( Romans 11:1-5). This remnant is chosen by grace, not by works, underscoring the continuity of God's promises to Israel.

    Gentiles and the Olive Tree Metaphor

    Paul introduces the metaphor of the olive tree to explain the relationship between Israel and the Gentiles ( Romans 11:17-24). The natural branches (Israel) were broken off due to unbelief, and wild olive shoots (Gentiles) were grafted in. However, Paul warns the Gentiles against arrogance, reminding them that they stand by faith and could also be cut off if they do not continue in God's kindness. This metaphor highlights the unity and interdependence of both groups within God's redemptive plan.

    The Mystery of Israel's Salvation

    Paul speaks of a "mystery" regarding Israel's partial hardening until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in ( Romans 11:25-27). He prophesies that all Israel will be saved, referencing the Deliverer coming from Zion to turn godlessness away from Jacob. This eschatological promise affirms God's unchanging covenant with Israel.

    Mercy and God's Wisdom

    In the concluding section, Paul extols the depth of God's wisdom and knowledge, marveling at His inscrutable judgments and unsearchable ways ( Romans 11:33-36). This doxology reflects Paul's awe at the inclusiveness of God's mercy and the mysterious ways in which He orchestrates salvation history for both Jews and Gentiles.
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    Ps.110:4 Annotated "Forever"

    "TheLordhath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek."

    Here we have an oath stated here. It did not begin with the Levites or with Aaron. It began with the everlasting covenant so the day decreed for the Man has a beginning and the ending and how long it is also mentioned her. "Thou art a priest forever."

    So Melchizedek blessing Abraham is merely a confirmation of what is stated in day 6 and day Seven in which God sanctified it. Thus holiness of God is Person specific. "And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God."(Ge.14:18).

    In the light of the above what is Aaron but the poster boy for the nation of Israel? In his failure we must explain the failure of the Levitical priesthood. Over the golden calf episode the nation corrupted themselves and Aaron facilitated it and "he built an altar before it; and Aaron made proclamation, and said, To morrow is a feast to theLord."(Ex.32:1-8). Since then idolatry never left them. It has continued in the imposter church unto this day. So when the false prophet urges his congregation to worship the image of the beast (Re.13) what does it tell you? Holiness has a face, the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ'(2 Co.4:6). It is what the heart of true worshipers bear. Without holiness none shall see God and it is what outer darkness would mean. So God reveal only his backparts' to Moses.

    The literalism of the imposter church must be attributed to bad faith. Thus evil is made to appear as good and darkness for light.(Is.5:20). The MAGA movement that the white evangelicals spearheads is the spirit of the times.
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    Ps.110:3 Annotated (2 of 2)

    "Thou hast the dew of thy youth"

    (Continued)

    In the covenant we read thus. "And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good." (Ge.1:11-12)" And the next verse is what leads us to the morning star. "And the evening and the morning were the third day."(v.13) This verse repeated at the end of day indicate the day decreed shall race inexorably towards a morning that is when the morning star arises. "Ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:"(2 Pe.1:19)

    Jesus promised "And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:/ And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father./ And I will give him the morning star."(Re.2:26-28) This shall explain the significance of ' Thou hast the dew of thy youth."
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    Ps.110:3 Alpha and the Omega (1 of 2)

    "Thy people shall be willing in the day of thy power, in the beauties of holiness from the womb of the morning: thou hast the dew of thy youth."

    From the term, 'the womb of the morning' we have three concepts,- the day, holiness as well as the dew and these must be fixed as the basis for the beginning and the ending. Simply put the Alpha Omega aspect of Jesus Christ gives the morning star, the light of which sheds on all three, consequently shades of meaning must be understood to define in human speech the holiness of God .

    "Be ye holy for I am holy" leads to a holy nation. " But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;"(1 Pe.2:9)

    Without holiness no one shall see God speaks of the light with which it can be seen and understood. ("For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light."Ps.36:9 Jesus Christ as the true light.

    Moses gives us a meaning for the dew. Dew speaks for the words of Jesus Christ in particular, referring to the word of his grace. "And no man was able to answer him a word, neither durst any man from that day forth ask him any more questions."(Matt.22:46) In the Book of Job we have this verse, "After my words they spake not again; and my speech dropped upon them." ( Job 29:22)

    This dew ties up with the everlasting covenant. "My doctrine shall drop as the rain, my speech shall distil as the dew, as the small rain upon the tender herb, and as the showers upon the grass"(De.32:2).

    In the covenant we read thus. "And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good." (Ge.1:11-12)" And the next verse is what leads us to the morning star. "And the evening and the morning were the third day."(v.13)
  • Bennymkje - 2 years ago
    Ps.110:1-2 Annotated

    "TheLordsaid unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." (v.1)

    Re.Matt.22:43-44. This is a Messianic prophecy looking to the day od regeneration. "And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."(Matt.19:28) The writer to the Hebrews has touched upon the significance of 'my right hand', "when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high." Ministry of Jesus did not end with the earth; nor with the lower parts. At present "and upholding all things by the word of his power," tells us truth shall judge the present day wickedness' and the word of his power will not let off the wicked . His grace also is equally at work for those who are true worshipers.

    Jesus revealed what his ministry consisted of, "I go to prepare a place for you./And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." ( John 14:2-3)

    "Thy footstool",

    Compare with the Isaiah quote, "Thus saith theLord, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool." (Is.66:1a) The day decreed for his Son covers also the day of regeneration.

    "TheLordshall send the rod of thy strength out of Zion: rule thou in the midst of thine enemies." (v.2)

    The rod of iron serves two purposes. It is for smashing the nations. The heathen in particular. "Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. (Ps.2:9) secondly it is for "and he shall rule them with a rod of iron."(Re.19:15)

    'In the midst of enemies' refer to the nations on the earth formerly designated as the outer darkness,
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Richard, last post for today.

    Also, those who deny the Trintiy doctrine also separate the oneness of God by citing Scriptures that say that the Father is the one true God and that Jesus is the one Lord, and that the Spirit comes from the Father (which to them means that he is an emanation but not a distinct person). However, that is not the way the apostalic churches believed. They were known to the Romans as people who worshipped a crucified man. They sang hymns of praise to Jesus, the Father, and the Spirit. The apostle Paul used these "doxologies" as in 2 Cor. 13:14, Eph. 4:4-6; Phil. 4:19-20; Col. 1:2-3; 1Thess. 1:1-3: 1 Tim. 1:1-2; 1Tim. 6:13-16; Rom. 16:24-27: Eph. 1:3; any many others to exalt the triune Godhead, not to delienate Jesus and the Spirit as being less than divine or separate beings from the Father. That was not the teaching of the early church. Paul used these various blessings, benedictions, doxologies, and prayers to emphasize the oneness of God who was a tri-unity.

    Paul's strict Pharisaical upbringing would have made him strictly avoid associating Jesus and the Holy Spirit with God; but as a born again person and after spending many years in the desert learning from Jesus and the Spirit, he shed the Jewish concept of God and instead adhered to honoring and loving the Son as He does the Father, and believing and obeying the Spirit as he would the Father.

    John's long career as an apostles brought him to a firm stand on the deity of Jesus and the Spirit, as his Gospel and Epistles clearly show.

    I so wish I could read and understand Greek so I could learn the depth of meaning in the NT as our English language does fall short of using exact terms to match the Greek terms and meanings.

    Hopefully, Giannis and Jesse will return here soon and help us with Greek.

    Take care Richard. Thanks for responding to my posts. I do read yours and ponder them. How good it is that we have each other on here to share and grow together.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Richard again,

    As to the Spirit, Jesus said that He will take from Jesus what is His (Jesus') and reveal it unto the disciples. ( Jn. 16:14) and then said in vs. 15 that "all things that the Father has are mine."

    No one can take (share, or possess) what belongs to God but God No one can possess ALL that God is in His essence but God. So, both Jesus and the Holy Spirit are equally divine persons with the Father. What did Jesus "take" from the Father? He did not take any essence from the Father because He and the Spirit possessed this eternally with the Father. But there are some things that were given to the Son and the Spirit from the Father. These verses simply point out that Jesus and the Spirit have all that the Father is in divine essence, but they have different roles as distinct persons.

    The other point that comes to mind on this topic is that Jn. 5:21-23-Jesus says that the Father raises the dead and quickens them AND that He (Jesus), even so (just as the Father), quickens whom He wills. That the Father judges no man, but the Father has committed all judgment to the Son. That all men should honor the Son, even (the same as) they honor the Father He that honoreth not the Son honoreth not the Father which has sent Him. (Again one more instance where Jesus is teaching that He is equal with the Father in divinity and is to be worshipped as the Father is worshipped.)

    Jesus teaches that He and the Father are one-meaning unified. ( Jn. 10:30) which the Jews took Him to say He is equal with God.

    And in Jn 15:23 Jesus says that he who hateth Him (Jesus) hateth the Father. Again claiming oneness and equal standing as the Father.

    Though some who deny the Trinity doctrine will bring up many verses that seem to refute this, but often the verses are referring to Jesus' status as a human person, not concerning His deity.

    cont.
  • Oseas - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Rainwalker

    GOD gave the Revelation unto JESUS,to shew unto His servants,and JESUS revealed unto us by His angel,in fact an archangel, one like unto the Son of man,and also through John,the Apostle,who write the book.

    Revelation 13:11-And I beheld ANOTHER Beast coming up out of the earth;and he had two horns like a lamb,and he spake as a dragon.

    Rainwalker, remember:

    The dragon, the Beast that will manifest himself in this current time,he is the Beast of the earth.Who is the dragon? He is the old serpent, called the Devil,and Satan,which deceives the whole world,in other words,as JESUS said,he is the father of the Jews- John 8:44.

    By the way, I must say that this MAN Beast of the earth already was born decades ago, understand?What withholdes his manifestation is the validity of sacrifice of our Lord on the cross,the blood of JESUS,that he might be revealed only in his time.It will be soon.

    The sacrifice and the oblation will cease,the abomination of desolation will stand in the holy place,and the overspreading of abominations shall make it desolate until the consummation.

    He will manifest himself not as Devil or Satan,the prince of the darkness,but like a lamb,a false lamb,a false Messiah,of course. Furthermore,he has two horns, symbol of two kingdoms-Israel and Judah.

    2 Thes.2:7-12

    7The mystery of iniquity doth already work:only he who now lets will let, until he be taken out of the way.

    8And then shall that Wicked be revealed,whom the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of his mouth(His Word),and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:

    9Even him,whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

    10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;because they received not the love of the truth,that they might be saved.

    11And for this cause GOD shall send them strong DELUSION,that they should believe a lie:

    12That they all might be damned who believed not the truth,but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 2 years ago
    Richard,

    Good thoughts here.

    The deity of Jesus was defended again and again even before the death of all of the apostles and into the ensuing centuries.

    As my post on His deity shows, Scripture clearly teaches that He is a divine person in the Godhead as the Father is. There were many other Scriptural references I could have used but I believe that I gave plenty to make the point of what has been taught of Him since the time of the apostles and what He actually said of Himself.

    So, too, with the Holy Spirit. He is a divine person of the Godhead.

    People who do not believe that God is a trinity of persons can cite many biblical verses that seem to say that the Father is the only one God and that Jesus is just "the Lord" but not God. Some say Jesus is not God because it seems that the Bible say that He was a creation. But the eternal existence of Jesus, the Son, is well documented in the Bible. Some say that the Holy Spirit is only God's power in action, thus making Him just a force or emanation from God, yet in so many Scriptures the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all spoken of as distinct persons using pronouns such as I, You, Me, We, Us, Him, He, His, My.

    As to image making, Scripture does say that Jesus ascended to heaven in His human body and remains there as God and Man. Therefore, The human nature/body of Jesus is the only physical image of God we will see in the eternal state. But I do believe we will see angel and other spiritual beings in that state. Whether or not we will be given the ability to see the Father and the

    Spirit in their actual essential form I cannot find Scripture that speaks of that. But we may be given that ability as part of our glorification. I guess I feel that being satisfied with truly and actually seeing Jesus in a physical way will be completely satisfying and sufficient for me because He clearly said that "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father"; that Jesus is the express image of the invisible Father".


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