Hello Simon. Your reference to Genesis 3:19 is correct, though when we consider the Hebrew word for 'dust' (as given in the KJV), it is 'aphar', and this includes dust, earth, ashes, powder, even rubbish. And then we have Abraham speaking in Genesis 18:27, "And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes". So even here, Abraham uses that word, aphar, to show that his body is truly of the earth ( 1 Corinthians 15:47), which the LORD God used to put together humankind, identifying him with the ground upon which he would walk, and into which his body would one day return.
So, these references could show that whether soil & dust is referred to, it must also include other substances and elements that comprise the earth, of which ash forms a part (as ash doesn't remain in that form for very long - it will integrate with the soil in which it is mixed). As much as a biblical pattern of dealing with the deceased is most preferable, it must be admitted that quite often that is not always possible, whether because of personal choice or constraints, or through dealings by others or beasts coming against the unfortunate. None of this should prevent the righteous soul from sharing in the resurrection, for not one of the Shepherd's sheep will be lost. GBU.
The bible clearly states that man was formed out of dust of the ground and by dust man shall return.It is not right for the dead to be burned and cremated. Genesis 3:19 This was God"s word before casting them out of Eden.
There are different covenants which exist; some are case specific for national Israel and others affect all mankind. Thinking about this a bit further, I would say that in addition to God's provision for Adam and creation of a covenant of marriage (which man merely participated in with the consummation) He also had the conditions of remaining in the garden of Eden whose terms of course were broken. What we learn from the fall of man is that death came to Adam and Eve; which started with the fall of the soul of man followed by eventual physical death that caused all of creation to groan to this day ( Romans 8:22). This caused the need for the "second Adam" ( 1 Cor. 15:45) to be necessitated; as prophesied in the first prophecy in scripture in Genesis 3:15 about Christ's atonement for sins; which had its first foreshadowing with the first animal sacrifice by God Himself in Genesis 3:21 for clothing.
Because we are all under what is termed "original sin" which in fact causes a fallen nature of the soul and spirit of man none of us can escape God's judgment as HE DID ALL THE WORK in creating us as eternal beings ( Ecclesiastes 3:11 "eternity in their hearts). The universal marriage covenant; however formal or informal the ceremony is holds men accountable for the vows they make; Numbers 30:2 is just one example: If a man makes a vow to the Lord, or takes an oath to bind himself with a binding obligation, he shall not violate his word; he shall do according to all that proceeds out of his mouth. Ecclesiastes also discusses this; and for marriage specifically we see in 3 of 4 Gospels God's original design of making two into one flesh and what God joins together man is not to tear usunder. ( Mark 10:9).
The case specific covenants for Israel and its Sabbath day restrictions certainly point to Christ as He is Lord of the Sabbath ( Matt. 12:8). He has a new covenant because of His atoning death ( Heb 9:16-17) for us.
In my understanding so far, the mind is the representative part, the leading part of our soul, which is the psyche.
Man has the body, which is the part of biological law, like eating, exercising, aging, etc. This is described in great detail in ( Genesis 3:18-20). I have some doubts about what a "living being" is, because until the coming of Jesus to earth, there were only living souls. But they also had a spirit, like David. Reading about the weight of the judgment that fell upon David afterward-the sword never departed from his descendants again-because the Creator loved David very much, even though he was a man after His own heart. And all the prophets who lived during the Old Testament wanted to please God.
But reading the Apostle Paul say this in ( Romans 7:19-22): even being regenerated, he lives in sin, unfortunately. Clearly, it's not iniquity, but it is, unfortunately, the tendency to sin.
In Romans 8, it talks about "thanks be to God, through Jesus Christ our Lord." Here, for me, he says how to free oneself from the ego of weaknesses and how to protect oneself from sin. To educate oneself according to it, but without diluting the blood of Christ or [repeating] "God is powerful"-because even the devil knows that God is powerful-like slogans or ready-made phrases that come out of my mouth. In verse 2: "Because the law of the Spirit of life, in Christ Jesus, has set me free from the law of sin and death." This reminds me of ( Ephesians 2:8-9: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-not by works, so that no one can boast.") To understand His sovereignty, we must understand our own incapacity. And in ( Matthew 10:11-12), Jesus is speaking to his disciples.
3. The Voice of the Enemy (Satan, Demons, The World)
The Bible clearly identifies a voice of temptation, accusation, and deceit that opposes God.
Genesis 3:1-5: The serpent (Satan) is the first voice of temptation and deceit, questioning God's word: "Did God really say?... You will not certainly die."
John 8:44: Jesus said about the Devil: "He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
1 Peter 5:8: "Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour." The "roaring" represents the voice of intimidation, fear, and accusation.
1 John 2:15-16: The voice of the "world" (value systems contrary to God) is also an influence: "Do not love the world or anything in the world... For everything in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life-comes not from the Father but from the world."
As we all are aware; man after Creation was in a sinless state and in theory could have remained that way in perfect bliss forever. Now God in His infinite wisdom knew what would happen in the fall; as His plan for redemption is seen in Genesis 3:14-15 so that Satan was defeated from the get go after his efforts to destroy the destiny of mankind. This also foreshadows the sufferings of Christ with the holes in his feet.
After Lucifer's rebellion there were two results; fallen angels and the rest who were still walking with God and serving Him and His purposes. They were then able to strengthen men and be in the backdrop with certain abilities they were given; but always putting the attention on the Lord and not themselves. Like the Godhead they will never lose their glory as they forever serve the living God. But the Godhead has ultimate and unique characteristics that elicit worship.
If we consider men early on there really even wasn't much worship happening as we see it now. Eventually with Cain and Abel we see the concept of an animal sacrifice reflecting the original animal killed to cover men's sin; most likely. There seems to have been a lingering communication with Adam and his progeny; even to Cain at this point. He; of course failed to heed the warning of not succumbing to sin crouching at the door.
It seems quite paradoxical given the whole wicked history of men and even the separation of Christ from the Father as something that was allowed to occur and be part of God's plan for redemption. All this suffering from the past all the way through to the end of the Tribulation ultimately spells doom for the lost; but for God's people necessitates; therefore ultimate trust in God and His future promises; even a new heaven and earth.
Even knowing the Lord this is more than I can bear thinking about in my own feeble strength. The Lord must therefore BE our life not just the center of it to live.
These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes. ( Psalm 50:21)
Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil. ( Ecclesiastes 8:11)
When we go back to the garden; we have the first idea that presumption is at play. We see in Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves. After this they continued briefly it seems until they heard the Lord; realizing it seems that their covering was insufficient. Then of course they were discovered and God had to give them a covering and they passed along blame down the line to Satan. In reality of course the serpent got the worst end of the deal; having to crawl on its belly in the dirt forevermore after the event; although things weren't exactly stellar for man either. Guess it was no skin off Satan's back in regard to the serpent's fate (if you get my drift).
Or; as the words to the song from what is said to be the band Squeeze
Tempted by the fruit of another
Tempted but the fruit was discovered.
Now of course that stanza is talking about infidelity; but in a sense they were spiritually acting that way with the fruit in the garden.
Anyway; my point is presuming things would be the same was a fool's errand and flopped from the onset. We move on to the book of Job (although I have examples starting in Genesis chronologically Job was said to be perhaps the oldest book in the Bible). Anyway; we see in Job 1 and 2 what was going down in the spirit realm with Satan and then the presumption or perhaps assumption that God was the cause of all his problems and of course his friends also with the presumption he must have done something to deserve his plight.
My emphasis here is on the more subtle forms of influence which Satan causes in the Body of Christ. It isn't focusing on gross doctrinal error and obvious deception rife in many churches today. HOWEVER in Genesis 3:1 we read:
Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Has God indeed said, 'You shall not eat of every tree of the garden'?"
Here we see Satan coming as a sort of "confidante" of hidden wisdom as it were to cause the woman to sin; and bring subsequent falling of her husband Adam as well. What we can gather here is that whether doctrinal error or betrayal of a friendship through gossip; etc. destruction results.
I am very careful here to offer sound doctrine with a heavy influx of scriptures to back things up. This isn't enough to stop one from becoming a legalist; no doubt or the error the Ephesian church had of losing their first love (or leaving it) in Revelation 2.
I always get that mixed up someone can correct me on it it seems just looking at the verse isn't enough to retain the proper context.
What I say here is with a caveat; doctrine isn't always necessary to fully understand for someone to have a real heart for God.
Just look at Christ; He wasn't interested in getting into debates with the Pharisees; it seems the only time that may have happened was when he was 12 years old and there was actually back and forth dialogue going on since they actually respected His unique wisdom and authority at the time. As with the danger of being a legalist for those into heavy studies of this or that Institute shall we say; there is the other extreme where someone may not listen to the Lord and consider their own errant beliefs on a particular subject. This happens; sadly enough to those who have compassionate hearts and their emotions override the check in their Spirit about sleeping around; for example. Read the WORD!
A Series on Covenants of God and how all men are affected
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. ( Luke 19:27).
This passage follows the parable of the "talents" and is slightly different than the parallel account in Matthew 25 where the servant that buries his talent is cast out of God's presence. Here there is loss of reward; and then a focus on those who rejected Christ as Master or King over them; which would infer unbelieving Israel specifically; and more broadly all those who would fight Him at Armageddon.
God's original covenant was; as with all others instigated by God Himself in the institution of marriage; so maligned today. One could say that man's original design to take care of the Garden of Eden by Adam and later by he and his wife also was as a covenant. Thorns and thistles would mar the once perfect environment there; and the contentious behavior and jealousy to compete with the headship of Adam over Eve was also a negative effect of original sin on their part.
Our Lord; of course is always one step ahead in His love for humanity in general and for His chosen people in particular. This is; of course brought out in the prophecy of the seed of the woman in Genesis 3:15 which is pronounced on the serpent after God dealt with Adam and Eve.
One could only surmise as to any like covenant arrangement by Lucifer and God before the fall. The auspicious worship and music leadership detailed in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 show the role of authority granted to Lucifer which apparently went to his head. It is interetsing to contemplate on the fact that enjoying the role God gives also disappears when we don't keep God in His place and it becomes more burdensome approaching God with the weight of sin. Thus; in general the wicked and unregenerate can no longer enjoy the presence of the Lord without submitting to the TERMS of reconciliation. We were all enemies ( Rom. 5:10)
I don't understand Bennymkje. Are you asking if I made that statement with an earlier comment from you in mind? Or, because of someone else's comment?
I was just expressing my view on this question to the original poster, that the Bible doesn't speak of any other human creation aside from the two first people revealed in Genesis 1:27. And Genesis 3:20 adds to confirm this, "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the MOTHER OF ALL LIVING". There were two points I was making: that Adam & Eve were the first humans of God's Creation and their lineage only is given in the Bible without any reference to any other non-Adamic-derived humans. Therefore, Cain would have married within his near or extended family as others did in that era. If someone chose to believe that two races were in existence at that time, then their belief is without any biblical warrant and problems of sin and salvation arise as well.
But I did find your comment to me on this, and I quote it: "Does it? (referencing my comment against another race of people). God framed the worlds by the word of God and the Spirit is not giving us a treatise in ethnography but of faith, the one language and one speech. God planted the garden and set man and woman as representational examples so with one man's fall sin enters into the world etc. It is neither on earth or in heaven as literal minds would make of it. So man after the fall chooses according to their free will. In the story of Noah we have the dove coming with an olive leaf plukt of and nations populating the new earth and these are to be understood as the Spirit has stated it. Where faith is the one speech and one language either we believe the word as inerrant. This is merely my understanding of the Bible. We explain the spiritual with spiritual passages." (End of your comment to me). That's all I have as your response and found that your answer did not address my comments, rather you took it into another direction.
In John 5:38-40 we have Jesus speaking to the Pharisees.
And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
Jesus is referring to the old testament scriptures. The new testament haven't been recorded yet.
I mention this because the old testament/covenant established under the Levitical priesthood was a foreshadowing of the new covenant that Christ brought in on the cross.
So you see, the Gospel of salvation is mentioned throughout the Bible starting with Genesis. Most notably ( Genesis 3:15 )
You may be able to parallel John 5:38-40 with Hebrews 10:5-10.
Genesis 3:15 - And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Genesis 12:3 - And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Genesis 22:18 - And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Jeremiah 31:33 - But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Mark 12:29-31 - And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30, And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31, And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Acts 17:11 - These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
1 Corinthians 13:13 - And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 - Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2, By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3, For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4, And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Satan inherit the earth and universe when Adam sinned in the garden of Eden.
Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which theLordGod had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
God had to buy us back from Satan .
1 Corinthians 6:20
For yeareboughtwithaprice: therefore glorify God in your body,and in your spirit, whichare God's.
Our kingdom is in the third Heaven where Jesus Christ dwell .
2 Timothy 4:18
And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenlykingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Romans 14:17
For thekingdomof God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
1 Corinthians 15:24
Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up thekingdomto God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
I believe we will have some part in the kingdom of heaven on earth, because where Christ is, we will be with him. One day we will see Apostle Paul in the heavenly kingdom where Jesus Christ dwell .
Why did Jesus call Mother Mary woman ? ? Was Jesus Christ being disrespectful to His earthly Mother ? ?
John 19:26
When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother,Woman, behold thy son!
Now, back in Genesis, Jesus Christ was the spoken word talking to Adam and Eve. I believe Jesus Christ was reminded Mother Mary of Genesis. It was victory that was going to happen for mankind.
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and betweenthyseed and her seed; it shallbruisethyhead, and thou shaltbruisehisheel.
If anyone would of known that the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ would of been for Salvation for all , Satan would of stopped it.
1 Corinthians 2:8
Which none of the princes of this world knew:forhadtheyknownit,theywould nothavecrucified the Lord of glory.
Because the gospel of grace, the women became free from bondage and can work in the workplace. Apostle Paul recognized that a women was important to the ministry.
I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea:
Romans 16:1
That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.
Romans 16:3-4
3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:
4 Who have for my life laid down their ownnecks: unto whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles.
May we all remember the gospel of grace in the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 only Apostle Paul was given the secret of the mystery of the resurrection for Salvation by believing only
"So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life." Since God placed the Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way at the "east" of the garden of Eden, it seems likely that there must have been a wall surounding it on the north, west, & south that did not need to be guarded. Otherwise why even place them only on the east side, or metion that's where they were stationed? It's also interesting to note that the wall of Jerusalem currently has a eastern gate that is sealed & will not be opened until the Messiah comes & enters through it... Ezekiel 44:1 "Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut. 2Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut. 3It is for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate, and shall go out by the way of the same." The east is also the side where the entrance into the temple of God & the outer & inner courts were. They were also walled with an opening on the east side.
Apostle Paul always writes to believers. Remember, Jesus Christ is ascended in Heaven. If Jesus Christ didn't have the Godhead, he couldn't of died on the cross, it would of been impossible.
Philippians 2:5-6
5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Because of the sinful flesh Jesus Christ had, God was in Christ Jesus as one.
2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, thatGodwas in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us thewordofreconciliation.
Jesus Christ was the voice and Word in Genesis .
Genesis 3:14-15
14And theLordGod said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Jesus Christ spoke in Genesis about bruising Satan's heel.
Romans 16:20
And the God of peace shallbruiseSatan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
Jesus Christ was always the Son of God and took on flesh by the virgin Mary.
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Jesus Christ is our Saviour God.
Titus 1:3
But hath in due times manifested hiswordthrough preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandmentofGodour Saviour;
Jesus Christ is the Word.
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, theWord, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
May we all believe that Jesus Christ is a Man, Sevant, King , Saviour, and our God in three persons.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 BELIEVE ONLY
The most controversial word in the Bible is , " dispensation " and it's mentioned in the Bible four times by Apostle Paul.
The best meaning of " dispensation " is ... In the Bible, dispensation refers toa period of time when God governs the world in a particular way or Dispensationalismis a method of interpreting history that divides God's work and purposes toward mankind into different periods of time. Usually, there are seven dispensations identified.
The first dispensation is called theDispensation of Innocence( Genesis 1:28-30and2:15-17).
The second dispensation is called theDispensation of Conscience, and it lasted about 1,656 years from the time of Adam and Eve's eviction from the garden until the flood ( Genesis 3:8-8:22).
The third dispensation is the Dispensation ofHuman Government, which began inGenesis 8.
The fourth dispensation, called theDispensation of Promise, started with the call of Abraham. During this dispensation God developed a great nation that He had chosen as His people ( Genesis 12:1-Exodus 19:25).
The fifth dispensation is called theDispensation of Law. It lasted almost 1,500 years, from the Exodus until it was suspended after Jesus Christ's death. That's why the four gospels are a extention of the Old Testament. The Mosaic Covenant, or the Law, found inExodus 19-23.
We are adopted to the family of God. The minute we get save, we are adopted in the family of God
We do not become Jews, we will have the blood of God through the Spirit.
1. Let's start in Genesis, God said it will start with the seed of the woman.
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thyseedand herseed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Galatians 4:4
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of awoman, made under the law,
Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of theseedofDavidaccording to the flesh;
2 Timothy 2:8
Remember that Jesus Christ of theseedofDavidwas raised from the dead according to my gospel:
2. Jesus Christ's father is God in Heaven. The Father carries the identity of the child. Marry carried the identity of Jesus Christ through the flesh by the seed of Daved in the woman in Genesis.
Matthew 1:18
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his motherMarywas espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
3. We get adopted the minute we believe the finished work of the cross that Apostle Paul calls my gospel. We are circumcised in the family of God.
Colossians 2:11
In whom also ye arecircumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Ephesians 1:5
Having predestinated us unto theadoptionof children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Romans 8:15
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit ofadoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Romans 8:23
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for theadoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1CORINTHIANS 15:1-4 believe only
I am not familiar with what the Quran says, but I will say that, as a Christian believer, I stick with what God has revealed in the Old and New Testaments of the Bible as to what is true and what God wants us to know concerning ancient history and spiritual matters. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the God's revelation to mankind. He is the one promised in Genesis 3:15 to Adam and Eve that this person will be triumph over the evil one and restore fellowship with God for mankind. Jesus is the "Seed" promised to Abraham through Isaac (not Ishmael) who will bless all nations and in whom all the promises of God to Abraham are fulfilled.
Read Galatians 3:6-17 and Galatians 3:22-29. Those who believe the gospel of Jesus (Read the book of Romans), not Muhammed's Quran, and then one places their faith in Jesus Christ (not Allah) will be saved and reconciled to God, will receive eternal life because such a believer is in union with Jesus Christ and thus also with the Father, by the working of the Holy Spirit within this believer. This is the one and only way to have salvation from sin, death, hell, and the evil one.
I urge you to be reconciled to God in Christ if you do not already believe in Him. I recommend that you stick with reading only the Bible for Spiritual truth. May you be brought to Christ by the Father and place your faith solely in the God of the Bible, forsaking Allah, Mohammed, and the Quran or any other non-Christian religious writings.
Further thoughts about the body and blood of Christ.
Romans 1:20 and no doubt scores of other scriptures speak of Christ's eternal Godhead. It was known due to the council of the Godhead beyond our understanding ( Deut. 29:29) that God the Son was to come to die to atone for the sins of men; and was first found in Genesis 3:16 (or thereabouts) to finally crush Satan's seed. It is impossible for Christ's sufferings to occur outside His appointed time when He came in the form of a man and had limitations brought about so that He could be overcome through death as the rest of us are to make the sacrifice legitimate. Clearly even glorified men are no longer subject to death; certainly more so for the Son of God! No one can say that in His eternal state now seated at the right hand of God the Father that He is still suffering. This is seen also in the Transfiguration; God indeed is beyond time and perhaps this can be seen as looking forward or beyond the limitations of time and space during His earthly ministry. All in all; of course Christ was involved with the Creation and surely is not subject to repeatedly suffering especially since the sacrifice is once for all ( Heb. 10:10). Satan is defeated and cannot cause Him any more grief; neither can the enemy affect those who are walking in the Spirit now; albeit they can be a thorn in the flesh and if we allow sin to give an opening he loves to torment our souls.
In general many seem to obsess with the fact that God is beyond time and make the overriding assumption that heaven is totally like that today. God Himself chose to allow the rules of time and space so clearly He desires to have times and seasons; and that will be apparent during a literal 1000 year Millennial reign on earth and there is no reason to expect it will be totally obliterated once the new Heaven and earth is created. Finally whatever the Spirit does because of His sacrifice it is available toall; a human Priest isn't in charge.
The Bible teaches that in the beginning man was created in the image and likeness of God. God immediately placed man in a beautiful garden and told him that he was free to eat the fruit of every tree in the garden saving for the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. God warned him that in the day he ate of the fruit of that tree, he would surely die. ( Genesis 2:15-17)
Man failed the test and became spiritually dead, and was driven from the presence of God. ( Genesis 3:24) That condition continues right to the present day. Mankind is by nature in rebellion against his creator and unless God himself intervenes to save him, he will die in his sins. Sin is the trangression of the law, and the wages of sin is death. The Bible is God's lawbook.
The only antidote, the only remedy, is if God himself provides a substitute, a stand-in, someone who is without sin and qualified to bear the penalty for sin in place of man and fully satisfy the demands of God's law. That someone is the Lord Jesus Christ, God Himself, who gave his life in order that God's elect might have the gift of eternal life.
There is absolutely nothing that natural man can do to contribute to or guarantee his salvation. Salvation is 100% the work of God according to God's foreordained elective program and according to God's own timetable. The churches regardless of denomination have set up a Do-It-Yourself salvation plan by which they teach that man can make some contribution to his salvation. The Bible insists that salvation is 100% the work of God and that God sovereignly chose those whom he would save before the foundation of the world. Man can not contribute one iota to or effect his salvation in any way. He is entirely at the mercy of God. Only God can save him. No church, no pastor, no evangelist, no priest, can guarantee anyone's salvation.
Yes I stated "God's requirement of what must be believed is based on the amount of revelation He has given mankind up to that time."
I also emphasized Salvation is by faith in the crucifixion of Christ.
The knowledge we have is what already happened and we believe and have faith in that. It's hindsight!
At best the old testament saints didn't have that knowledge.
They did sacrifices that pointed ahead.
They didn't have 1 Corinthians 15:3-4, "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
They was saved by faith and believed in what was given to them at that time.
As for the passage you mentioned in Romans 1 that applies to God Glory and his existence.
It contrast the idol worshipping of all sorts and the Idea that there is no true and living God!
Genesis 3:15 "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; IT SHALL BRUISE THY HEAD, AND THOU SHALT BRUISE HIS HEEL.
That's the first mention of a coming savior.
I may be wrong but I believe Adam believed that, That's why he called her "The mother of all living"
Adam lost dominion and everyone after Adam and Eve inherit death.
Adam didn't name her that until AFTER they sinned and fell under the penalty of death.
Before then she was called Woman in Genesis 2. "..she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Adam called her Eve "The mother of all living" After Adam hears the prophecy of Christ in verse 15 and his fate in Verse 19, "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
There's another Adam coming! A life giving Spirit!
You write, "Adam believed the promise God gave in Genesis 3:15 that the Seed of the woman would conquer Satan. Adam believed Him, demonstrated by the name he gave Eve verse 20. ( The mother of all living)
"And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. Before Adam would name her God had brought all His creation to him. It was with regards to His helpmeet, that was his free will. "And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof./And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him."(vv.19-20) His helpmeet ('partner') is not what a mother is. He made him a living soul so that would meet the requirement of creature comforts. The Spirit instructs us what His breath has done. (It explains Rom.1:19-20) Adam called her Eve. Nothing there says Adam believed or called her mother as such. The Spirit is referring to the line, "over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." in Ge.1:28
Ro.5 the passage you cited explains why it encapsulates the very Spirit of Christ. One represents all. many sons of God on account of one man's obedience. May sons of Adam on account of Adam's disobedience. Now figure out where you will place the nation of Israel."When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, When he separated the sons of Adam, He set the bounds of the people According to the number of the children of Israel."(De.32:8)
Death entered into the world because of God commanded, "In that day"(Ge.3:17) that happens according to Re.20:12)
The basis of salvation has always been the death of Christ.
No one, either prior to the cross or since the cross, would ever be saved without that singular event.
Christ's death paid the penalty for past sins of Old Testament saints and future sins of New Testament saints.
The requirement for salvation has always been faith. The object of one's faith for salvation has always been God.
Ww look back in history and by faith, believe what is written.
God's requirement of what must be believed is based on the amount of revelation He has given mankind up to that time.
Adam believed the promise God gave in Genesis 3:15 that the Seed of the woman would conquer Satan. Adam believed Him, demonstrated by the name he gave Eve verse 20. ( The mother of all living )
The Lord indicated His acceptance immediately by covering them with coats of skin verse21. At that point that is all Adam knew, but he believed it.
Those coats of skin "from a sacrifice made by God" pointed ahead to Christ sacrifice that takes away the sin of the whole world.
John 1:29.
You notice here the word "sin" is singular. This is the penalty of sin! Death. Separation from God.
the promise in Genesis has nothing to do with humanity. The seed mentioned in Genesis 22 and Galatians
is clearly identifying Christ as the one promised.
You stated, "We do not know if this was referring that women have "seed" as in ova
I can assure you this has nothing to do with "seed" as in ova. In Genesis 22 its Abraham's seed!
I also don't believe God had to created male DNA in a sperm He put into marry to fertilize her ovum or if God placed the male DNA directly into her ovum to conceive Jesus. God didn't have to do that with Adam.
The Scripture states that the Angel of the Lord came to Joseph in a dream and said "for that which is CONCEIVED in her is of the Holy Ghost. Conceived "Gennao in the Greek" means to procreate.
In Isaiah 7:10-14 Jesus's birth was to be a miraculous sign!
"Moreover the LORD spake again unto Ahaz, saying,
Ask thee a sign of the LORD thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above.
But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the LORD.
And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also? Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Satan is declared here as having a seed also, so this is definitely talking about something other than biological birth. It's a title of a being.
They are Identified in the same passage as a "it" and "his"
(Here follows; And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between "thy seed" and "her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.)
I believe this goes beyond Eve and also Mary as we see it climax in Revelation, Particularly in Revelation 12:5-17.
The woman mentioned in Genesis 3:15 is also to be persecuted! "And I will put enmity between thee "AND THE WOMAN", and between thy seed and her seed;
In scripture when identifying a man and his genealogy it's always the seed of the man.
It's a contradiction with the Hebrew usage of the term when saying "Seed of the woman.
We know he's not talking biologically because that would be Abel or Seth or another one of their unnamed children.
Identifying the genealogy of someone in scripture is always Identified through the man.
What's interesting is Adam is left out!
Christ was to be born of a woman in the lineage of Israel and his father was God.!
There is no need for a biological seed here. It wasn't a biological birth, Christ came from pre-existance origin.
This is amplified in Isaiah 7:13-14.
Elsewhere the seed is mentioned and identified in relation to Genesis 3:15 is Genesis 22:18 "And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
"And confirmed in Galatians 3:16 "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
I would to give my thoughts on "The temptation or testing/proving of Satan" and whether he knew Jesus was the Son of God or not in Luke 4:1-13.
First I would like to say I believe he knew Jesus was the Son of God.
I also believe he knew Jesus was coming to this world by way of the Prophet's and perhaps the first prophecy recorded given to him in Genesis 3:15. "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and HER SEED; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Immediately the line by which the seed would come was persecuted from there on.
The seed of the woman is biologically wrong and should raise eyebrows.
This is directly spoken to Eve but also depicts Israel.
Seed of the woman also depicts the father of this child would be God.
When we come to the prophets he can see a clear picture.
So why would Satan even try to test the Son of God?
There's two things here to consider.
1) We have to consider verse 1 if Luke 4. "And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and WAS LED BY THE SPIRIT INTO THE WILDERNESS,
This was orchestrated by the Spirit! Jesus was presented to be tested!
Not to see if he would fail it was to show he was who the Scripture say he was.
2) Satan used the same method he used on Eve knowing she was flesh.
He knew Jesus was the Son of God but he tried to see if there was a kink in his humanity.
Adam was made a living soul; naked and no knowledge of Good and Evil. Adam was to multiply man on earth.
The last Adam (Christ) was a life giving spirit who came so that those men can have a new birth.
He was clothed with his own righteousness and was referenced in Genesis 3:22, "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become AS ONE OF US, to know good and evil"
He was also a life giving spirit.
The first man Adam was to multiply man on earth, he was never meant or able to give life.
Look at their origin in comparison with the emphasis on the last Adam.
1 Corinthians 15:47, The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the LORD FROM HEAVEN.
(To be born Again means (Born from above)
So yes we certainly disagree "that the first Adam and the last Adam came into this world without a sinful nature or vulnerable to sin.
You stated "The shame they now felt was due to the sinful nature that entered them and now they no longer perfectly perceived things"
I agree that "The shame they now felt was due to the sinful nature", but I don't agree that nature entered them when they bit of the fruit. I believe it was already in them to disobey.
This is why Christ was foreordained as of a lamb without blemish and without spot before the foundation of the world, 1 Peter 1:19-20.
Also I believe the shame they experienced was CAUSED by their "Knowledge" of Good and Evil. They were shame because they "NOW" knew they were naked.
For instance, what if they would have disobeyed God in any other way?
Would they have known they were naked without the knowledge of Good and Evil and responded with shame and try to cover themselves?
Is scripture conclusive that this was their first act of disobedience?
However, even if it were their first act of disobedience, it still applies.
They were uncovered/ vulnerable, absent from the blood of the Lamb which is to atone for sin.
Notice where the emphasis is placed after the act.
Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were NAKED..
Verses 9-10, And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou;
And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was NAKED; and I hid myself.
11.) And he said, Who told thee that thou wast NAKED?..
21) Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins and clothed them.
22) And the LORD God said, BEHOLD, THE MAN IS BECOME AS ONE OF US, TO KNOW GOOD AND EVIL: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever:
BTW, you stated, "our sins covered and cleansed by the blood of Jesus that makes it spotless and white as long as we continue in faith and overcome. I'm not sure if you're saying that Christ clothing us covers our conscience or sin?
So, these references could show that whether soil & dust is referred to, it must also include other substances and elements that comprise the earth, of which ash forms a part (as ash doesn't remain in that form for very long - it will integrate with the soil in which it is mixed). As much as a biblical pattern of dealing with the deceased is most preferable, it must be admitted that quite often that is not always possible, whether because of personal choice or constraints, or through dealings by others or beasts coming against the unfortunate. None of this should prevent the righteous soul from sharing in the resurrection, for not one of the Shepherd's sheep will be lost. GBU.
The bible clearly states that man was formed out of dust of the ground and by dust man shall return.It is not right for the dead to be burned and cremated. Genesis 3:19 This was God"s word before casting them out of Eden.
There are different covenants which exist; some are case specific for national Israel and others affect all mankind. Thinking about this a bit further, I would say that in addition to God's provision for Adam and creation of a covenant of marriage (which man merely participated in with the consummation) He also had the conditions of remaining in the garden of Eden whose terms of course were broken. What we learn from the fall of man is that death came to Adam and Eve; which started with the fall of the soul of man followed by eventual physical death that caused all of creation to groan to this day ( Romans 8:22). This caused the need for the "second Adam" ( 1 Cor. 15:45) to be necessitated; as prophesied in the first prophecy in scripture in Genesis 3:15 about Christ's atonement for sins; which had its first foreshadowing with the first animal sacrifice by God Himself in Genesis 3:21 for clothing.
Because we are all under what is termed "original sin" which in fact causes a fallen nature of the soul and spirit of man none of us can escape God's judgment as HE DID ALL THE WORK in creating us as eternal beings ( Ecclesiastes 3:11 "eternity in their hearts). The universal marriage covenant; however formal or informal the ceremony is holds men accountable for the vows they make; Numbers 30:2 is just one example: If a man makes a vow to the Lord, or takes an oath to bind himself with a binding obligation, he shall not violate his word; he shall do according to all that proceeds out of his mouth. Ecclesiastes also discusses this; and for marriage specifically we see in 3 of 4 Gospels God's original design of making two into one flesh and what God joins together man is not to tear usunder. ( Mark 10:9).
The case specific covenants for Israel and its Sabbath day restrictions certainly point to Christ as He is Lord of the Sabbath ( Matt. 12:8). He has a new covenant because of His atoning death ( Heb 9:16-17) for us.
Man has the body, which is the part of biological law, like eating, exercising, aging, etc. This is described in great detail in ( Genesis 3:18-20). I have some doubts about what a "living being" is, because until the coming of Jesus to earth, there were only living souls. But they also had a spirit, like David. Reading about the weight of the judgment that fell upon David afterward-the sword never departed from his descendants again-because the Creator loved David very much, even though he was a man after His own heart. And all the prophets who lived during the Old Testament wanted to please God.
But reading the Apostle Paul say this in ( Romans 7:19-22): even being regenerated, he lives in sin, unfortunately. Clearly, it's not iniquity, but it is, unfortunately, the tendency to sin.
In Romans 8, it talks about "thanks be to God, through Jesus Christ our Lord." Here, for me, he says how to free oneself from the ego of weaknesses and how to protect oneself from sin. To educate oneself according to it, but without diluting the blood of Christ or [repeating] "God is powerful"-because even the devil knows that God is powerful-like slogans or ready-made phrases that come out of my mouth. In verse 2: "Because the law of the Spirit of life, in Christ Jesus, has set me free from the law of sin and death." This reminds me of ( Ephesians 2:8-9: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith-and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God-not by works, so that no one can boast.") To understand His sovereignty, we must understand our own incapacity. And in ( Matthew 10:11-12), Jesus is speaking to his disciples.
continuation - part 3
3. The Voice of the Enemy (Satan, Demons, The World)
The Bible clearly identifies a voice of temptation, accusation, and deceit that opposes God.
Genesis 3:1-5: The serpent (Satan) is the first voice of temptation and deceit, questioning God's word: "Did God really say?... You will not certainly die."
John 8:44: Jesus said about the Devil: "He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
1 Peter 5:8: "Be alert and of sober mind. Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour." The "roaring" represents the voice of intimidation, fear, and accusation.
1 John 2:15-16: The voice of the "world" (value systems contrary to God) is also an influence: "Do not love the world or anything in the world... For everything in the world-the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life-comes not from the Father but from the world."
As we all are aware; man after Creation was in a sinless state and in theory could have remained that way in perfect bliss forever. Now God in His infinite wisdom knew what would happen in the fall; as His plan for redemption is seen in Genesis 3:14-15 so that Satan was defeated from the get go after his efforts to destroy the destiny of mankind. This also foreshadows the sufferings of Christ with the holes in his feet.
After Lucifer's rebellion there were two results; fallen angels and the rest who were still walking with God and serving Him and His purposes. They were then able to strengthen men and be in the backdrop with certain abilities they were given; but always putting the attention on the Lord and not themselves. Like the Godhead they will never lose their glory as they forever serve the living God. But the Godhead has ultimate and unique characteristics that elicit worship.
If we consider men early on there really even wasn't much worship happening as we see it now. Eventually with Cain and Abel we see the concept of an animal sacrifice reflecting the original animal killed to cover men's sin; most likely. There seems to have been a lingering communication with Adam and his progeny; even to Cain at this point. He; of course failed to heed the warning of not succumbing to sin crouching at the door.
It seems quite paradoxical given the whole wicked history of men and even the separation of Christ from the Father as something that was allowed to occur and be part of God's plan for redemption. All this suffering from the past all the way through to the end of the Tribulation ultimately spells doom for the lost; but for God's people necessitates; therefore ultimate trust in God and His future promises; even a new heaven and earth.
Even knowing the Lord this is more than I can bear thinking about in my own feeble strength. The Lord must therefore BE our life not just the center of it to live.
These things hast thou done, and I kept silence; thou thoughtest that I was altogether such an one as thyself: but I will reprove thee, and set them in order before thine eyes. ( Psalm 50:21)
Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil. ( Ecclesiastes 8:11)
When we go back to the garden; we have the first idea that presumption is at play. We see in Genesis 3:7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made coverings for themselves. After this they continued briefly it seems until they heard the Lord; realizing it seems that their covering was insufficient. Then of course they were discovered and God had to give them a covering and they passed along blame down the line to Satan. In reality of course the serpent got the worst end of the deal; having to crawl on its belly in the dirt forevermore after the event; although things weren't exactly stellar for man either. Guess it was no skin off Satan's back in regard to the serpent's fate (if you get my drift).
Or; as the words to the song from what is said to be the band Squeeze
Tempted by the fruit of another
Tempted but the fruit was discovered.
Now of course that stanza is talking about infidelity; but in a sense they were spiritually acting that way with the fruit in the garden.
Anyway; my point is presuming things would be the same was a fool's errand and flopped from the onset. We move on to the book of Job (although I have examples starting in Genesis chronologically Job was said to be perhaps the oldest book in the Bible). Anyway; we see in Job 1 and 2 what was going down in the spirit realm with Satan and then the presumption or perhaps assumption that God was the cause of all his problems and of course his friends also with the presumption he must have done something to deserve his plight.
My emphasis here is on the more subtle forms of influence which Satan causes in the Body of Christ. It isn't focusing on gross doctrinal error and obvious deception rife in many churches today. HOWEVER in Genesis 3:1 we read:
Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Has God indeed said, 'You shall not eat of every tree of the garden'?"
Here we see Satan coming as a sort of "confidante" of hidden wisdom as it were to cause the woman to sin; and bring subsequent falling of her husband Adam as well. What we can gather here is that whether doctrinal error or betrayal of a friendship through gossip; etc. destruction results.
I am very careful here to offer sound doctrine with a heavy influx of scriptures to back things up. This isn't enough to stop one from becoming a legalist; no doubt or the error the Ephesian church had of losing their first love (or leaving it) in Revelation 2.
I always get that mixed up someone can correct me on it it seems just looking at the verse isn't enough to retain the proper context.
What I say here is with a caveat; doctrine isn't always necessary to fully understand for someone to have a real heart for God.
Just look at Christ; He wasn't interested in getting into debates with the Pharisees; it seems the only time that may have happened was when he was 12 years old and there was actually back and forth dialogue going on since they actually respected His unique wisdom and authority at the time. As with the danger of being a legalist for those into heavy studies of this or that Institute shall we say; there is the other extreme where someone may not listen to the Lord and consider their own errant beliefs on a particular subject. This happens; sadly enough to those who have compassionate hearts and their emotions override the check in their Spirit about sleeping around; for example. Read the WORD!
But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me. ( Luke 19:27).
This passage follows the parable of the "talents" and is slightly different than the parallel account in Matthew 25 where the servant that buries his talent is cast out of God's presence. Here there is loss of reward; and then a focus on those who rejected Christ as Master or King over them; which would infer unbelieving Israel specifically; and more broadly all those who would fight Him at Armageddon.
God's original covenant was; as with all others instigated by God Himself in the institution of marriage; so maligned today. One could say that man's original design to take care of the Garden of Eden by Adam and later by he and his wife also was as a covenant. Thorns and thistles would mar the once perfect environment there; and the contentious behavior and jealousy to compete with the headship of Adam over Eve was also a negative effect of original sin on their part.
Our Lord; of course is always one step ahead in His love for humanity in general and for His chosen people in particular. This is; of course brought out in the prophecy of the seed of the woman in Genesis 3:15 which is pronounced on the serpent after God dealt with Adam and Eve.
One could only surmise as to any like covenant arrangement by Lucifer and God before the fall. The auspicious worship and music leadership detailed in Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 show the role of authority granted to Lucifer which apparently went to his head. It is interetsing to contemplate on the fact that enjoying the role God gives also disappears when we don't keep God in His place and it becomes more burdensome approaching God with the weight of sin. Thus; in general the wicked and unregenerate can no longer enjoy the presence of the Lord without submitting to the TERMS of reconciliation. We were all enemies ( Rom. 5:10)
I was just expressing my view on this question to the original poster, that the Bible doesn't speak of any other human creation aside from the two first people revealed in Genesis 1:27. And Genesis 3:20 adds to confirm this, "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the MOTHER OF ALL LIVING". There were two points I was making: that Adam & Eve were the first humans of God's Creation and their lineage only is given in the Bible without any reference to any other non-Adamic-derived humans. Therefore, Cain would have married within his near or extended family as others did in that era. If someone chose to believe that two races were in existence at that time, then their belief is without any biblical warrant and problems of sin and salvation arise as well.
But I did find your comment to me on this, and I quote it: "Does it? (referencing my comment against another race of people). God framed the worlds by the word of God and the Spirit is not giving us a treatise in ethnography but of faith, the one language and one speech. God planted the garden and set man and woman as representational examples so with one man's fall sin enters into the world etc. It is neither on earth or in heaven as literal minds would make of it. So man after the fall chooses according to their free will. In the story of Noah we have the dove coming with an olive leaf plukt of and nations populating the new earth and these are to be understood as the Spirit has stated it. Where faith is the one speech and one language either we believe the word as inerrant. This is merely my understanding of the Bible. We explain the spiritual with spiritual passages." (End of your comment to me). That's all I have as your response and found that your answer did not address my comments, rather you took it into another direction.
In John 5:38-40 we have Jesus speaking to the Pharisees.
And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
Jesus is referring to the old testament scriptures. The new testament haven't been recorded yet.
I mention this because the old testament/covenant established under the Levitical priesthood was a foreshadowing of the new covenant that Christ brought in on the cross.
So you see, the Gospel of salvation is mentioned throughout the Bible starting with Genesis. Most notably ( Genesis 3:15 )
You may be able to parallel John 5:38-40 with Hebrews 10:5-10.
Here's just a few notable verses.
Genesis 22:16-18.
Galatians 3:6-9.
Galatians 3:16-19.
John 3:16-18.
Acts 4:12.
Romans 10:9-11.
Ephesians 2:8-10.
Revelation 22:17.
I hope this helps.
God bless you.
Genesis 3:15 - And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Genesis 12:3 - And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
Genesis 22:18 - And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Jeremiah 31:33 - But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Mark 12:29-31 - And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30, And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31, And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Acts 17:11 - These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.
1 Corinthians 13:13 - And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
1 Corinthians 15:1-4 - Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2, By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3, For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4, And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Satan inherit the earth and universe when Adam sinned in the garden of Eden.
Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which theLordGod had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
God had to buy us back from Satan .
1 Corinthians 6:20
For yeareboughtwithaprice: therefore glorify God in your body,and in your spirit, whichare God's.
Our kingdom is in the third Heaven where Jesus Christ dwell .
2 Timothy 4:18
And the Lord shall deliver me from every evil work, and will preserve me unto his heavenlykingdom: to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
Romans 14:17
For thekingdomof God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
1 Corinthians 15:24
Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up thekingdomto God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
I believe we will have some part in the kingdom of heaven on earth, because where Christ is, we will be with him. One day we will see Apostle Paul in the heavenly kingdom where Jesus Christ dwell .
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
John 19:26
When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, he saith unto his mother,Woman, behold thy son!
Now, back in Genesis, Jesus Christ was the spoken word talking to Adam and Eve. I believe Jesus Christ was reminded Mother Mary of Genesis. It was victory that was going to happen for mankind.
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and betweenthyseed and her seed; it shallbruisethyhead, and thou shaltbruisehisheel.
If anyone would of known that the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ would of been for Salvation for all , Satan would of stopped it.
1 Corinthians 2:8
Which none of the princes of this world knew:forhadtheyknownit,theywould nothavecrucified the Lord of glory.
Because the gospel of grace, the women became free from bondage and can work in the workplace. Apostle Paul recognized that a women was important to the ministry.
I commend unto you Phebe our sister, which is a servant of the church which is at Cenchrea:
Romans 16:1
That ye receive her in the Lord, as becometh saints, and that ye assist her in whatsoever business she hath need of you: for she hath been a succourer of many, and of myself also.
Romans 16:3-4
3 Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:
4 Who have for my life laid down their ownnecks: unto whom not only I give thanks, but also all the churches of the Gentiles.
May we all remember the gospel of grace in the resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 only Apostle Paul was given the secret of the mystery of the resurrection for Salvation by believing only
"So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life." Since God placed the Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way at the "east" of the garden of Eden, it seems likely that there must have been a wall surounding it on the north, west, & south that did not need to be guarded. Otherwise why even place them only on the east side, or metion that's where they were stationed? It's also interesting to note that the wall of Jerusalem currently has a eastern gate that is sealed & will not be opened until the Messiah comes & enters through it... Ezekiel 44:1 "Then he brought me back the way of the gate of the outward sanctuary which looketh toward the east; and it was shut. 2Then said the LORD unto me; This gate shall be shut, it shall not be opened, and no man shall enter in by it; because the LORD, the God of Israel, hath entered in by it, therefore it shall be shut. 3It is for the prince; the prince, he shall sit in it to eat bread before the LORD; he shall enter by the way of the porch of that gate, and shall go out by the way of the same." The east is also the side where the entrance into the temple of God & the outer & inner courts were. They were also walled with an opening on the east side.
Philippians 2:5-6
5Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
Because of the sinful flesh Jesus Christ had, God was in Christ Jesus as one.
2 Corinthians 5:19
To wit, thatGodwas in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us thewordofreconciliation.
Jesus Christ was the voice and Word in Genesis .
Genesis 3:14-15
14And theLordGod said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Jesus Christ spoke in Genesis about bruising Satan's heel.
Romans 16:20
And the God of peace shallbruiseSatan under your feet shortly. The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you. Amen.
Jesus Christ was always the Son of God and took on flesh by the virgin Mary.
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Jesus Christ is our Saviour God.
Titus 1:3
But hath in due times manifested hiswordthrough preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandmentofGodour Saviour;
Jesus Christ is the Word.
1 John 5:7
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, theWord, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
May we all believe that Jesus Christ is a Man, Sevant, King , Saviour, and our God in three persons.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 BELIEVE ONLY
The most controversial word in the Bible is , " dispensation " and it's mentioned in the Bible four times by Apostle Paul.
The best meaning of " dispensation " is ... In the Bible, dispensation refers toa period of time when God governs the world in a particular way or Dispensationalismis a method of interpreting history that divides God's work and purposes toward mankind into different periods of time. Usually, there are seven dispensations identified.
The first dispensation is called theDispensation of Innocence( Genesis 1:28-30and2:15-17).
The second dispensation is called theDispensation of Conscience, and it lasted about 1,656 years from the time of Adam and Eve's eviction from the garden until the flood ( Genesis 3:8-8:22).
The third dispensation is the Dispensation ofHuman Government, which began inGenesis 8.
The fourth dispensation, called theDispensation of Promise, started with the call of Abraham. During this dispensation God developed a great nation that He had chosen as His people ( Genesis 12:1- Exodus 19:25).
The fifth dispensation is called theDispensation of Law. It lasted almost 1,500 years, from the Exodus until it was suspended after Jesus Christ's death. That's why the four gospels are a extention of the Old Testament. The Mosaic Covenant, or the Law, found inExodus 19-23.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1 Corinthians 15:1-4
We do not become Jews, we will have the blood of God through the Spirit.
1. Let's start in Genesis, God said it will start with the seed of the woman.
Genesis 3:15
And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thyseedand herseed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. Galatians 4:4
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of awoman, made under the law,
Romans 1:3
Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of theseedofDavidaccording to the flesh;
2 Timothy 2:8
Remember that Jesus Christ of theseedofDavidwas raised from the dead according to my gospel:
2. Jesus Christ's father is God in Heaven. The Father carries the identity of the child. Marry carried the identity of Jesus Christ through the flesh by the seed of Daved in the woman in Genesis.
Matthew 1:18
Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his motherMarywas espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.
3. We get adopted the minute we believe the finished work of the cross that Apostle Paul calls my gospel. We are circumcised in the family of God.
Colossians 2:11
In whom also ye arecircumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Ephesians 1:5
Having predestinated us unto theadoptionof children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
Romans 8:15
For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit ofadoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
Romans 8:23
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for theadoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.
Ray, in Christ Jesus 1CORINTHIANS 15:1-4 believe only
I am not familiar with what the Quran says, but I will say that, as a Christian believer, I stick with what God has revealed in the Old and New Testaments of the Bible as to what is true and what God wants us to know concerning ancient history and spiritual matters. Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of the God's revelation to mankind. He is the one promised in Genesis 3:15 to Adam and Eve that this person will be triumph over the evil one and restore fellowship with God for mankind. Jesus is the "Seed" promised to Abraham through Isaac (not Ishmael) who will bless all nations and in whom all the promises of God to Abraham are fulfilled.
Read Galatians 3:6-17 and Galatians 3:22-29. Those who believe the gospel of Jesus (Read the book of Romans), not Muhammed's Quran, and then one places their faith in Jesus Christ (not Allah) will be saved and reconciled to God, will receive eternal life because such a believer is in union with Jesus Christ and thus also with the Father, by the working of the Holy Spirit within this believer. This is the one and only way to have salvation from sin, death, hell, and the evil one.
I urge you to be reconciled to God in Christ if you do not already believe in Him. I recommend that you stick with reading only the Bible for Spiritual truth. May you be brought to Christ by the Father and place your faith solely in the God of the Bible, forsaking Allah, Mohammed, and the Quran or any other non-Christian religious writings.
Romans 1:20 and no doubt scores of other scriptures speak of Christ's eternal Godhead. It was known due to the council of the Godhead beyond our understanding ( Deut. 29:29) that God the Son was to come to die to atone for the sins of men; and was first found in Genesis 3:16 (or thereabouts) to finally crush Satan's seed. It is impossible for Christ's sufferings to occur outside His appointed time when He came in the form of a man and had limitations brought about so that He could be overcome through death as the rest of us are to make the sacrifice legitimate. Clearly even glorified men are no longer subject to death; certainly more so for the Son of God! No one can say that in His eternal state now seated at the right hand of God the Father that He is still suffering. This is seen also in the Transfiguration; God indeed is beyond time and perhaps this can be seen as looking forward or beyond the limitations of time and space during His earthly ministry. All in all; of course Christ was involved with the Creation and surely is not subject to repeatedly suffering especially since the sacrifice is once for all ( Heb. 10:10). Satan is defeated and cannot cause Him any more grief; neither can the enemy affect those who are walking in the Spirit now; albeit they can be a thorn in the flesh and if we allow sin to give an opening he loves to torment our souls.
In general many seem to obsess with the fact that God is beyond time and make the overriding assumption that heaven is totally like that today. God Himself chose to allow the rules of time and space so clearly He desires to have times and seasons; and that will be apparent during a literal 1000 year Millennial reign on earth and there is no reason to expect it will be totally obliterated once the new Heaven and earth is created. Finally whatever the Spirit does because of His sacrifice it is available toall; a human Priest isn't in charge.
The Bible teaches that in the beginning man was created in the image and likeness of God. God immediately placed man in a beautiful garden and told him that he was free to eat the fruit of every tree in the garden saving for the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. God warned him that in the day he ate of the fruit of that tree, he would surely die. ( Genesis 2:15-17)
Man failed the test and became spiritually dead, and was driven from the presence of God. ( Genesis 3:24) That condition continues right to the present day. Mankind is by nature in rebellion against his creator and unless God himself intervenes to save him, he will die in his sins. Sin is the trangression of the law, and the wages of sin is death. The Bible is God's lawbook.
The only antidote, the only remedy, is if God himself provides a substitute, a stand-in, someone who is without sin and qualified to bear the penalty for sin in place of man and fully satisfy the demands of God's law. That someone is the Lord Jesus Christ, God Himself, who gave his life in order that God's elect might have the gift of eternal life.
There is absolutely nothing that natural man can do to contribute to or guarantee his salvation. Salvation is 100% the work of God according to God's foreordained elective program and according to God's own timetable. The churches regardless of denomination have set up a Do-It-Yourself salvation plan by which they teach that man can make some contribution to his salvation. The Bible insists that salvation is 100% the work of God and that God sovereignly chose those whom he would save before the foundation of the world. Man can not contribute one iota to or effect his salvation in any way. He is entirely at the mercy of God. Only God can save him. No church, no pastor, no evangelist, no priest, can guarantee anyone's salvation.
Ephesians 1:1-5
More in part 4
Thanks for responding.
Yes I stated "God's requirement of what must be believed is based on the amount of revelation He has given mankind up to that time."
I also emphasized Salvation is by faith in the crucifixion of Christ.
The knowledge we have is what already happened and we believe and have faith in that. It's hindsight!
At best the old testament saints didn't have that knowledge.
They did sacrifices that pointed ahead.
They didn't have 1 Corinthians 15:3-4, "For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
They was saved by faith and believed in what was given to them at that time.
As for the passage you mentioned in Romans 1 that applies to God Glory and his existence.
It contrast the idol worshipping of all sorts and the Idea that there is no true and living God!
Genesis 3:15 "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; IT SHALL BRUISE THY HEAD, AND THOU SHALT BRUISE HIS HEEL.
That's the first mention of a coming savior.
I may be wrong but I believe Adam believed that, That's why he called her "The mother of all living"
Adam lost dominion and everyone after Adam and Eve inherit death.
Adam didn't name her that until AFTER they sinned and fell under the penalty of death.
Before then she was called Woman in Genesis 2. "..she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
Adam called her Eve "The mother of all living" After Adam hears the prophecy of Christ in verse 15 and his fate in Verse 19, "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.
There's another Adam coming! A life giving Spirit!
And he's coming through the Woman of all living.
The first Adam plays no role.
God bless.
You write, "Adam believed the promise God gave in Genesis 3:15 that the Seed of the woman would conquer Satan. Adam believed Him, demonstrated by the name he gave Eve verse 20. ( The mother of all living)
"And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living. Before Adam would name her God had brought all His creation to him. It was with regards to His helpmeet, that was his free will. "And out of the ground the Lord God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof./And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him."(vv.19-20) His helpmeet ('partner') is not what a mother is. He made him a living soul so that would meet the requirement of creature comforts. The Spirit instructs us what His breath has done. (It explains Rom.1:19-20) Adam called her Eve. Nothing there says Adam believed or called her mother as such. The Spirit is referring to the line, "over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." in Ge.1:28
Ro.5 the passage you cited explains why it encapsulates the very Spirit of Christ. One represents all. many sons of God on account of one man's obedience. May sons of Adam on account of Adam's disobedience. Now figure out where you will place the nation of Israel."When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, When he separated the sons of Adam, He set the bounds of the people According to the number of the children of Israel."(De.32:8)
Death entered into the world because of God commanded, "In that day"(Ge.3:17) that happens according to Re.20:12)
The basis of salvation has always been the death of Christ.
No one, either prior to the cross or since the cross, would ever be saved without that singular event.
Christ's death paid the penalty for past sins of Old Testament saints and future sins of New Testament saints.
The requirement for salvation has always been faith. The object of one's faith for salvation has always been God.
Ww look back in history and by faith, believe what is written.
God's requirement of what must be believed is based on the amount of revelation He has given mankind up to that time.
Adam believed the promise God gave in Genesis 3:15 that the Seed of the woman would conquer Satan. Adam believed Him, demonstrated by the name he gave Eve verse 20. ( The mother of all living )
The Lord indicated His acceptance immediately by covering them with coats of skin verse21. At that point that is all Adam knew, but he believed it.
Those coats of skin "from a sacrifice made by God" pointed ahead to Christ sacrifice that takes away the sin of the whole world.
John 1:29.
You notice here the word "sin" is singular. This is the penalty of sin! Death. Separation from God.
Jesus came to redeem what was lost.
Read Romans 5:12-21.
God bless.
Thanks for responding.
Yes, Christ humanity comes from the woman but
the promise in Genesis has nothing to do with humanity. The seed mentioned in Genesis 22 and Galatians
is clearly identifying Christ as the one promised.
You stated, "We do not know if this was referring that women have "seed" as in ova
I can assure you this has nothing to do with "seed" as in ova. In Genesis 22 its Abraham's seed!
I also don't believe God had to created male DNA in a sperm He put into marry to fertilize her ovum or if God placed the male DNA directly into her ovum to conceive Jesus. God didn't have to do that with Adam.
The Scripture states that the Angel of the Lord came to Joseph in a dream and said "for that which is CONCEIVED in her is of the Holy Ghost. Conceived "Gennao in the Greek" means to procreate.
In Isaiah 7:10-14 Jesus's birth was to be a miraculous sign!
"Moreover the LORD spake again unto Ahaz, saying,
Ask thee a sign of the LORD thy God; ask it either in the depth, or in the height above.
But Ahaz said, I will not ask, neither will I tempt the LORD.
And he said, Hear ye now, O house of David; Is it a small thing for you to weary men, but will ye weary my God also? Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Satan is declared here as having a seed also, so this is definitely talking about something other than biological birth. It's a title of a being.
They are Identified in the same passage as a "it" and "his"
(Here follows; And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between "thy seed" and "her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.)
I believe this goes beyond Eve and also Mary as we see it climax in Revelation, Particularly in Revelation 12:5-17.
The woman mentioned in Genesis 3:15 is also to be persecuted! "And I will put enmity between thee "AND THE WOMAN", and between thy seed and her seed;
Good night and God bless.
I realized I left out an important point.
We know "The seed of the woman" is Chris.
In scripture when identifying a man and his genealogy it's always the seed of the man.
It's a contradiction with the Hebrew usage of the term when saying "Seed of the woman.
We know he's not talking biologically because that would be Abel or Seth or another one of their unnamed children.
Identifying the genealogy of someone in scripture is always Identified through the man.
What's interesting is Adam is left out!
Christ was to be born of a woman in the lineage of Israel and his father was God.!
There is no need for a biological seed here. It wasn't a biological birth, Christ came from pre-existance origin.
This is amplified in Isaiah 7:13-14.
Elsewhere the seed is mentioned and identified in relation to Genesis 3:15 is Genesis 22:18 "And in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed; because thou hast obeyed my voice.
"And confirmed in Galatians 3:16 "Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
God bless.
I would to give my thoughts on "The temptation or testing/proving of Satan" and whether he knew Jesus was the Son of God or not in Luke 4:1-13.
First I would like to say I believe he knew Jesus was the Son of God.
I also believe he knew Jesus was coming to this world by way of the Prophet's and perhaps the first prophecy recorded given to him in Genesis 3:15. "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and HER SEED; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
Immediately the line by which the seed would come was persecuted from there on.
The seed of the woman is biologically wrong and should raise eyebrows.
This is directly spoken to Eve but also depicts Israel.
Seed of the woman also depicts the father of this child would be God.
When we come to the prophets he can see a clear picture.
So why would Satan even try to test the Son of God?
There's two things here to consider.
1) We have to consider verse 1 if Luke 4. "And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and WAS LED BY THE SPIRIT INTO THE WILDERNESS,
This was orchestrated by the Spirit! Jesus was presented to be tested!
Not to see if he would fail it was to show he was who the Scripture say he was.
2) Satan used the same method he used on Eve knowing she was flesh.
He knew Jesus was the Son of God but he tried to see if there was a kink in his humanity.
God bless.
Part 2.
Adam was made a living soul; naked and no knowledge of Good and Evil. Adam was to multiply man on earth.
The last Adam (Christ) was a life giving spirit who came so that those men can have a new birth.
He was clothed with his own righteousness and was referenced in Genesis 3:22, "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become AS ONE OF US, to know good and evil"
He was also a life giving spirit.
The first man Adam was to multiply man on earth, he was never meant or able to give life.
Look at their origin in comparison with the emphasis on the last Adam.
1 Corinthians 15:47, The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the LORD FROM HEAVEN.
(To be born Again means (Born from above)
So yes we certainly disagree "that the first Adam and the last Adam came into this world without a sinful nature or vulnerable to sin.
There's only one did and that's Christ.
God bless.
Thanks for responding!
You stated "The shame they now felt was due to the sinful nature that entered them and now they no longer perfectly perceived things"
I agree that "The shame they now felt was due to the sinful nature", but I don't agree that nature entered them when they bit of the fruit. I believe it was already in them to disobey.
This is why Christ was foreordained as of a lamb without blemish and without spot before the foundation of the world, 1 Peter 1:19-20.
Also I believe the shame they experienced was CAUSED by their "Knowledge" of Good and Evil. They were shame because they "NOW" knew they were naked.
For instance, what if they would have disobeyed God in any other way?
Would they have known they were naked without the knowledge of Good and Evil and responded with shame and try to cover themselves?
Is scripture conclusive that this was their first act of disobedience?
However, even if it were their first act of disobedience, it still applies.
They were uncovered/ vulnerable, absent from the blood of the Lamb which is to atone for sin.
Notice where the emphasis is placed after the act.
Genesis 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were NAKED..
Verses 9-10, And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou;
And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was NAKED; and I hid myself.
11.) And he said, Who told thee that thou wast NAKED?..
21) Unto Adam also and to his wife did the LORD God make coats of skins and clothed them.
22) And the LORD God said, BEHOLD, THE MAN IS BECOME AS ONE OF US, TO KNOW GOOD AND EVIL: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever:
BTW, you stated, "our sins covered and cleansed by the blood of Jesus that makes it spotless and white as long as we continue in faith and overcome. I'm not sure if you're saying that Christ clothing us covers our conscience or sin?
GB.