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Jim Given everything you showed you are correct He was both, but also their is a physical seed man and a spiritual

seed which is what Genesis 3:15 is talking about because physically a woman does not produce seed. This what

occurred when Mary said to Gabriel be unto me according to thy word and God created in Mary that seed to produce

by the flesh Jesus Christ who Had to have perfect sinless blood because the life of the flesh is in the blood! Therefore

also the line of the physical traced back to david and eventually the believing line to abraham and to the original Adam.

So the first adam corrupted in blood line the second adam sinless blood and never sinned and perfect sacrifice for ours.

You may find what you're looking for in Genesis 1:1. In the beginning Elohim created the heaven and the earth.

Elohim is used in the plural form.

Genesis 1:26. And Elohim said, Let "US" make man in "OUR" image, after "OUR" likeness: The us and our being used here is embodied in the Elohim. They're not angels. Angels did not assist in making man but the word of God did!!

John 1:1-3. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

The same was in the beginning with God.

All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Elohim is used throughout until you get to Genesis 3:21. Unto Adam also and to his wife did the "LORD God" make coats of skins, and clothed them.

After he made coats of skin from that day forward I believe he uses the covenant name LORD GOD "YHWH ELOHIM."

In Genesis 3:15. we come to the seed of the woman. That's a reference and title to the Lord Jesus Christ. The term itself is a contradiction Biologically and according to the Hebrew grammar. Biologically the seed is of the man. BUT JESUS WASN'T CONCEIVED BY MAN!! Jesus wasn't tied to Adam genetically. He was the 2nd Adam directly out of the bosom of the Father, meaning out of Everlasting. He's part of the Elohim.

In the Hebrew Genealogies the seed always referenced the man but Jesus Genealogy links directly to God. That's why it doesn't say seed of Adam.

In the Torah Moses referred you to him.

Deuteronomy 18:18-19.

Acts 7:37-38.

And this is how Jesus refer to himself,

Revelation 1:8. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

As Moses said, "Like unto me, Hear you him.

God bless.

Hello Rick. You've raised too many issues here to properly deal with, so I might just throw in a few things.

You wrote: "If I'm gonna take a chance of worshipping another God...". There is no other God - God is One God, none beside Him & Who will not give His Glory to another ( Isaiah 42:8). If Jesus was a separate creation, a product of human sexual union, & you worshipped Him, then yes, you & I should fear worshipping another god. But this Jesus to whom you have given worship & made petition, did not enter the world by that means, but from within God's Being. John 8:42, Jesus said: "If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me." The word used here for 'proceeded' & 'came from', is 'ek or ex'= to come out of, meaning that Jesus is stating that His coming was from within God, that it was God's Initiative to send Him & not His.

Yet your pressing search is for the mention of Jesus in the Torah. I'm not sure why, since the Jews themselves will search not only the Torah, but the Prophets, & the Writings for their Messiah. If we remember this aspect of Jewish history: Israel was a special people; they were still sinners before God; God provided a sacrifice system to appease Him & keep Israel always conscious of their sins; this sacrifice would continue until the coming Messiah, Who would become God's only acceptable Sacrifice to redeem them. But what happened? What was written about God's Provision was given to Israel in the Tanakh (TNK) (T=Torah; N=Neviim; K=Ketuvim) ( Luke 24:44), but they could not see it/they could not discern the messages (right from Genesis 3:15). No, we don't see Jesus' Name in the Torah or anywhere else in the OT; Jesus only became Jesus at His Birth ( Luke 1:31,32); but we see God in the whole Bible & His Plan to bring HIS Salvation to all. We could ask, 'why did God bring forth a human (a Son) to be sacrificed? Wouldn't a perfect spotless lamb made by Him suffice?'

Hi Kimberlee.

I believe you are referring to this verse.

1 Timothy 2:11-14.

I believe that refers to Pastoring the Church. " Where men and women gather in a group setting".

I don't think this is necessarily the church building, If the building was destroyed the church still exists in the gathering of the people. In 1 Corinthians it mentions Churches. "Plural" perhaps meaning, where ever they gather.

1 Corinthians 14:33-36. For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all "CHURCHES" of the saints.

Let your women keep silence in the "CHURCHES": for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.

And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only?

That doesn't say they don't minister or teach other women.

Titus 2:3-4. The aged women likewise, that they be in behaviour as becometh holiness, not false accusers, not given to much wine, TEACHERS of good things;

That they may TEACH the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children,

I don't think it's because they can't teach.

When you look at 1 Corinthians 14:1-40.

It seems it's to keep things orderly is the context. And then It may have more to do with Genesis 3:16. Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; "AND THY DESIRE SHALL BE TO THY HUSBAND," and he shall rule over thee.

Some say this is to rule over.

My assertion is speculative.

God bless.

Here are several scriptures I hope answer your questions

* Psalms 139,

Genesis 3:8, Genesis 4:16, Jonah 1:3, 2 Corinthians 3:17, Psalms 95:2, Psalms 16:11,

Deuteronomy 11:10-13, Leviticus 22:3, Psalms 114:7, Psalms 68:8, Psalms 97:5, Romans 8:16, 1 Kings 9:3, 2 Chronicles 2:16-19, Job 10:4, Psalms 11:4, Psalms 34:15, Psalms 145:14-16, Proverbs 5:21, Proverbs 15:3, Hebrews 4:11-14, 1 Peter 3:12, Ecclesiasticus 15:19, Ecclesiasticus 17:15,19, Ecclesiasticus 34:16, Ecclesiasticus 39:19,

Hebrews 9:24,

Jude 1:24,

Revelation 19:6,

Genesis 1:26-27, Genesis 2:15,18,22,23, Genesis 3:20, Genesis 5:1-2, interesting it appears by this GOD called them Adam, it was man that named her "Woman & Eve"

Hopefully this is helpful

Through the Adam Genesis 4:25-26, Genesis 5:1-32, comes the line of the living, physically & Spiritualy, Matthew 1:1-16, Luke 3:23-38, John 1:1-5, John 3:15-16, Mark 12:27,

A day unto the LORD,

Genesis 1:5, in chronological order of the Bible, maybe not exactly Chronological of actual dates of oldest to newest. 1st reference of day is evening & morning 1st day. Also light day & darkness night. Scientificly can be referenced to earths rotation being a day, approximately 24 hrs. That also in itself isn't completely finite, that's why we have time changes throughout the year spring & fall & leap-year in addition. In that day of creation was the determination as the rotation of the earth? Interestingly the sun & moon were not yet created, Genesis 1:16, therefore was the light from GOD? It does not specify the rotation nor exact hours. Yet classified as "the first day"

Genesis 2:4, it is quoted "in the day that the LORD God made the earth, and the heavens" as you ask? Here may possibly be the 1st time we can differentiate day being a moment of time, because the previous chapter already clarified/classified 1st day, 2nd day, etc.

Genesis 2:17, Genesis 3:5,

Genesis 3:8, this may be the perfect example of clearly being 1 actual moment of a 24hr day. It would be interesting to know the different words used for each example from ealier translations & languages. To really study this more thoroughly.

Genesis 3:17 appears to be the 1st time in our translation & English wording that day is plural in multiple yet it was assumed previous as multiple yet as a single moment therefore classified as "a day" Genesis 5:2,

Again we see it Genesis 5:4,5,

Going further outside of Genesis; Luke 6:22-23, also being a moment not necessarily 1 rotation of earth. Luke 10:12, Luke 12:28, Luke 12:46, Luke 17:24, Revelation 6:17,

2 Peter 3:8,10, reading in context 2 Peter 3,

1 Corinthians 13:9-13, Colossians 1:26, there are principles here that help us understand we don't know everything here on earth in the flesh.

Hopefully this is helpful

It might help your studies to get

A King James Reference Bible WITH center of EACH page, Reference columns.

Each verse may have other scriptures in later pages that shed light on the verse you are currently studying. More info, future tie-in's, past tie-in's; fulfilled prophesies.

Moses wrote the first 5 books of the Bible. He'd be writing along and might have been interrupted? He was writing on scrolls. In some chapters the continuity is flowing; it picks up another idea, then it refers backward.

I always advise to take notes in Genesis and leave room for your own references. Read all the Geneologies.

There is no such thing as evolution which is what Satan tries to get us confused with.

By Genesis 3:15, the Godheads' plan to introduce the SON OF MAN, was activated.

Satan Took Adams dominion. Adam could have evicted Satan right then__but he protected Eve, and lost it. What we miss is that Satan WAS NOT HUMAN. He had to get permission from God, every time. Job 1.

If you stand back a little and look at what God had purposed already. He readied the earth. Provided creatures and food for all. Formed Adam to have dominion over all of it. Of course satan was jealous. But he was a snake and crafty. Isa.14 says he's short and covered in snakes, with a I WILL bad attitude.

Generations flow by and Creation waited for Jesus to be born. He had to be born Human. The whole Bible is Gods gift to you. Read often. You'll see the patience of God.

Jesus as a human, shed his blood over humanity and the earth; to win back dominion and authority over evil. He gives that to US HUMANS.

Antichrist will submit to be possessed by Satan. Losing his own soul.

We are living in exciting times! May we all follow Jesus to that Final Battle! Hallelujah to our King. He's taking us to heaven soon; CAUGHT UP in the clouds. Be Ready & look for the sign: abomination of desolation in Jerusalem.

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Satan stole Adams authority in the Garden, when Adam and Eve ate the fruit. God already had a plan in place to get it back: Genesis 3:15

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed;

IT shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise HIS heel.

[the word IT refers to Jesus in the future on the Cross. Jesus died for our sins on the Cross. He bruised satans head (power and authority to use it), and Jesus WON BACK The Authority for His Church. We have legal power and authority to destroy satans attacks and sicknessesas in COVID, and all VARIANTS of Covid. You're going to have to fight satans illegal attempts to convince you Jesus's Name and delegated AUTHORITY, is not enough.

That is where THE HEALING CONFESSIONS help us to keep our FAITH STRONG, as we keep our eyes on Jesus.

A little dot of oil on your head, and ask the Holy Spirit to ANOINT you for battle. Ephesians 6.

"Infirmity, Spirit of Lies, Pestilence and Destroyer.

You bind their illegal work and cast them into outer darkness forever to wander, IN JESUS NAME.

Ask the Holy Spirit to Help you and give you the names. Write them down.

In the same way pray for others who are sick, afraid, frightened or depressed.

Satan and evil spirits are NOT HUMAN. They have no authority! Stand on that and get rowdy

The Bible does not teach eternal conscious torment. The consistent testimony of scripture is that "the wages of sin is death," and not eternal life. Romans 6:23; Genesis 2:17; Ezekiel 18:30-32; 1 John 5:12. It was the devil who first taught that one could sin and still have eternal life. Genesis 3:4. Jesus came to save us from perishing, and to give us eternal life, not to save us from living forever. John 3:16.

Hellfire is something that takes place at the end of this world, and not at death. John 5:28,29; Matthew 13:40. In it, soul and body are completely destroyed. Matthew 10:28; 2 Thess 1:9. It will consume the wicked into ashes. Revelation 20:9; Malachi 4:1-3; Psalm 37:20. Even the devil will be consumed to ashes. Ezekiel 28:18,19; Isaiah 47:14.

In the new earth, when all sin has been eradicated, there will be no more suffering or pain or death. Revelation 21:4.

Anthony,

The promise of salvation through the gospel of Jesus was given to all mankind in the garden of Eden ( Genesis 3:15) when God told the serpent (evil one) that about the promised Seed (Jesus) from the woman. Although he (evil one) will strike the heel of the promised Seed (Jesus), the Seed (Jesus) will crush his (evil one) head (which is defeating the dominion and authority of the evil one -the head) The promised Seed (Jesus) will have victory over Satan and all of is evil works.c

The promise was given to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, that all nations will be blessed through the Seed (Jesus) that comes from the lineage of Abraham.

Therefore, at the appointed time, the eternal Son of God was conceived in Mary's virgin womb by the power of the Holy Spirit and born in human flesh while still retaining his deity, also. So the plan was for the Messiah (Jesus) to come through the Israelites, and the order was that He would go first to His people, the Jews, to preach the news of the kingdom of God, and they, as a whole rejected them. After Jesus ascended, He appeared to Saul on the way to Damascus and converted him outright and commissioned Saul/Paul to take the gospel of the God's kingdom arrival in the person of Jesus Christ, the Messiah to mankind. The Godhead intended for the gospel to be offer salvation to all in humanity who believe by faith from before the creation of the universe. So, although Jesus preached primarily to the Jews in his day before He ascended to heaven, He also ensured that the gospel be preached in all the world until He returns by the power and call of the Holy Spirit on believers to preach of Him.

Hope this helps. By the way, Anthony, if you grew up in Burien and have a sister named Luanne, I knew you in high school. If not, I will know you in glory anyway. Blessings.

WHEN WAS THE GOSPEL SET IN MOTION? OR PERHAPS THOUGHT OF.

Here's a few scriptures perhaps something to help or give thought to several topics.

1 Peter 1:19-21.

I make this 1st Scripture a significant point of interest because if all get saved in the end regardless then that renders the word Salvation obsolete. So we righteously argue that if that was the case why spill the blood of our Precious Lord as Brother Chris has stated?

I believe here's another factor when combining the above verse with this one.

Hebrews 10:7.

Psalms 40:7.

I believe When considering all scripture it ties some way or another to the Lord's redemption plan.

Sense the plan of salvation was drawn up before the foundation of the world and the volume of the book is written of Christ it don't only render salvation obsolete it render the volume of the book obsolete.

We would no longer have scripture to reason with.

Part 2.

Also when considering the 2 trees in the Garden we must consider this redemption plan was purposed to come by Christ before either of these trees were made! And also consider the volume of the book was written of Christ. I believe that eating of the tree of life has its role in this as well! Atleast in a way to set the plan in motion.

" My thought here is inconclusive "

But here is why I mentioned it. Look at the results from eating of the tree.

Genesis 3:21. I believe this significant piece of scripture is part of the volume of the book mentioned and the first blood atonement sacrifice pointing ahead to the Lord Jesus Christ.

Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. John 5:39.

God bless.

WHAT happened to the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil??

Revelation 22:2

1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.

2 In the midst of the street of it, and on either side of the river, was there the TREE OF LIFE which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

God had two trees in the Garden of Eden. The Trees were FOR A CHOICE.

One Tree was for Eternal Life.

One Tree was for the Knowledge of Good and Evil.

All of the OTHER trees were given for food and enjoyment

[The first 2 trees were forbidden to be eaten from.]

TEMPTATION entered the Garden. Lucifer in the body of a snake. He wasn't human, so he had to borrow a body. Adam was with Eve. Lucifer approached the woman (help meet).

See, God gives us choices. We are responsible for our choices. Eve was drawn to choose separateness from God; knowledge apart from God, leverage and personal gain. (things Lucifer was suggesting). Maybe Eve craved TO BE EQUAL to God or Adam?

She didn't choose Eternal Life. Eternity in sin and separation. Satan was after the Dominion given to humans. He went after "the weaker vessel."

God immediately protected the Tree of Life with a flaming sword. To protect them from spiritual death and separation. And you can read of the judgments of Adam having to cultivate and provide their own food; Eve suffering through childbirth, etc. And the history of mankind on earth, separated from God, began for all peoples.

However, in Genesis 3:15, is told of a future day (the Cross of Jesus) of restoration of relationship to God, would be paid in blood, by Jesus Christ__who was and is, THE TREE OF LIFE.

Revelation 22:2 (where the Tree is now).

The tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is inside of us. Either we CHOOSE LIFE ETERNAL; or we live until we die, separated forever, spiritually dead.

Hi ChucK Genesis 3: 19 From dust thou art and unto dust thou shalt return because we started

Genesis 2:7 God formed man of the dust of the ground. In true science nothing is ever lost it changes state like

when were gathered together in perfect bodies incorruptable the best state.

Genesis 3:1,13, Revelations 1:7,8, Genesis 3:15,

Serpent : Genesis 3:1, Revelation 12:15,

Revelations 2:9-13, Revelations 2:24, Revelations 12:4, Revelations 12:9, Revelations 20:2, Revelations 17:18,

Deception : Genesis 3:1,13, Genesis 3:15, Revelations 20:7-8,

Tree of Life: Genesis 3:22,24, Revelations 2:7, Revelation 2:21-22,

Judgement: Genesis 3:17-24, Revelations 20:10,12-15, Revelations 14:8-11, Revelations 19:15,

GOD casting out: Genesis 3:24, Revelations 12:9, Revelations 2:5, Revelations 3:16, Revelations 12:13, Revelations 20:3, Revelations 19:20, Revelations 22:19,

Angels, Cheribs & others obeying GOD: Revelation 8:2-13, Revelations 14:6-9,15-20, Revelations 16, Revelations 19:3-6, Revelations 4:10,

Redemption : Revelations 18:4, Revelations 21:6,27, Revelations 22:14,17, Revelations 5:9, Revelations 7:14, Revelations 20:6, Revelations 14:1-5, Revelations 12:10, Revelations 3:5, Revelations 3:12,

Another place of dwelling : Revelations 20:10, Revelations 21:2,

Hopefully these help

The "New" John? Perhaps you're asking abut Paul whose name was Saul? Acts 9:4-5,19,20, please read the Book of Acts, if you want the full account in context.

Revelations 1:1-2, John

Hopefully this is helpful.

I need to see where in the book of revelations does it show the discipal that is the new leader on earth

Please show me where in the book of revelations

Earl They could not have knowledge of death or anything dealing with confusion fear or destruction because of

that source the adversary. Don't think the adversary didn't know what God told them Also what's the difference

they knew about death or not

is if you disobey me your Father you deal with the consequences of your unbelief. Also who made Eve

question Gods Word was it not the great liar. By the way they died in the worst way they no longer had their

spiritual connection with God and Adam lost all authority Given him by God. That's why in Genesis 3:10 Adam

said I was afraid, that's a bad position to be in with your father yet look who God blamed. Neither Adam nor

Eve.

Brother Earl,

You said it was unbelief that caused the fall of Adam and Eve, but it doesn't say that in the Bible. The Bible already tells us exactly what they did wrong, so there is no mystery and no guessing. The answer is in this verse...

Genesis 3:17

"And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;"

God's response is in the format of: "Because" [you did this] ... [this is the consequence]

God gave Adam and Eve a command, they disobeyed that command, and they received the consequences. It was not unbelief. You said they didn't believe God's command, but it doesn't say that in the Bible. Maybe that was just an assumption on your part? I believe that they believed God's command, and they chose to disobey anyway.

Have you ever had a child disobey you? Is their motive 100% of the time for disobeying a child's unbelief?

God bless...

This book is by far the best book ever written. I love reading the stories about the characters in the Bible. Thanks for sharing this story about Adam and Eve and others. Have a fantastic day .

Agree more with Glenn, because Genesis 1:26, "them" "over all the Earth"

Rick, please read : Mark 12:27, Luke 20:36-38, Hebrews 9:14-15, Luke 9:60, Genesis 2:17,

Genesis 3:20,

John 3:3,5,6,

Numbers 23:19, 2 Thessalonians 2:10-12, Leviticus,

Nowhere, is that stated in Scripture. Colossians 2:8

Revelations 22:19,

Hi Mathew Cains wife was his sister which may sound odd but your dealing with purer blood line back then,

to this day Amish marry as close as second cousins. God's Word doesn't say Cain was afraid he was too defiant

also every human back then were descendants of Adam and Eve because Eve is known as in Genesis 3:20 the

mother of all living. When Adam and Eve were deceived one of the things that were affected was the

blood i.e. sin in the blood. The genetics became contaminated and eventually the end result is death. That's the

reason for our Saviours sacrifice he had sinless blood. The first Adam Flesh the second Adam from Heaven

Jesus Christ. Any inhabitants of Nod would have come from Adam and Eve.

Perry

In the beginning Adam and Eve were immortal they had no need of protein, vitamins, or minerals in their bodies. So, the fruit of the trees and the herbs of the field were enough for them, even all of the animals ate grass the lions, tigers, etc. the list goes on. But after the fall of man (taken of the forbidden fruit) Adam and Eve died to the spirit (they lost their immortality) they had to start eating meat and vegetables. The body now needed the protein and minerals to survive. Recall Genesis 3: 17, 18, & 19 God told Adam he would have to eat of the ground that includes animals that feed off the ground.

God Bless

stay prayed up and ready to go up

cowboy

We Do, We put it on.

With it we're well equipped.

If we think we can do anything more than that, We're taking it off!!

We would fail like Peter did when the Desciples were absent of the Holyspirit.

Redemption has been settled on the cross.

The Armor is to do exactly what it says it does.

Ephesians 6:11. Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may BE ABLE TO STAND AGAINST THE " WILES " ( Schemes )OF THE DEVIL.

Satan doesn't come to you as a wolf! He comes to you as a wolf in SHEEP'S CLOTHING.

Satan is subtil. That's how he approached Eve. " Now the serpent was more " SUBTIL " than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. Genesis 3:1."

But the Lords sheep don't hear his voice!!

Jesus is the chief shepherd and those who shepherd his flock will show the fruit of the Spirit not the works of the flesh.

"No coveting the glory in Christ victory"

When someone is in the Spirit they want speak much of themselves, They will speak of the Work of Christ on the Cross.

Worshipping in truth and in Spirit is CAUSED by the Holyspirit.

Here's the only weapon we have, The word of God!!

And it's not given to you to use to bind Demons!!

It's given to you to minister the gospel and "IT" will divide asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, I believe That happens when you are QUICKENED by it..

Our flesh is also our enemy. The flesh can become super sensual when ministering in the flesh and lacking the spirit.

I'm Sorry but we're just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

1 John 4:4. Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

God bless

S. Spencer It has to be it bro because in Genesis 3:20 She's called Eve the mother of all living, that's God

establishing what he did.

Dear "J Parker". U have right it was many ppl on earth, and evan angels. But in the Garden Eden it was only Adam, Eve and the Lord and the serpent.

Ill hope u see the Spirit of Jesus in there too. When u do u understand that He Is. And tell us I Am. He was with the beginning of the foundation of the earth.

Genesis 2:15 And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

The confusionion are when ppl only look Adam and Eve.

From the very beginning they are really the pedigree of Jesus, if you can see that it will be profitable for you. Please remember that Adam was made of dirt, and God blows His breath into Adam who gave Adam life. But Jesus is from the Spirit, very simple explanation.

1 Corinthians 15:45

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Adam get the word from God.

Genesis 3:19 "In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return."

That was when God close the Garden for men.

And the darkness come.

Ill hope u get som answer on the confusion. Be blessed in the Holy Name of Jesus Christ. Please read the Holy scripts for undersanding. Not only the old testament.

Christians have a decision to make: whether to trust and follow God's morals or the world's morals? Christianity (folllowing Jesus) isn't a one time event, but a lifelong pursuit. 1 Corinthians 9:24. It says to run the race (effort); it doesn't say the race is already finished. Some get off course and don't care.

Some Christians follow God's morals only to the point where it conflicts with the world's morals, then proceed with the world's morals instead. The result is following the world ( 1 John 2:15).

Despite Acts 2:38 saying to be baptized, some say "don't" be baptized.

Despite John 14:6 saying to go to Jesus, some say to go through a 'prophet' or pope.

Despite James 4:17 saying to avoid sin, some claim it's bad and 'legalism' to avoid sin.

Despite Psalm 139:13 saying unborn babies are special, some claim killing them is ok.

Despite Ezra 7:13 saying people have freewill, some claim they "don't" have freewill.

Despite Matthew 7:13 saying most people will go to hell, some say most will "not" go to hell.

Despite Matthew 10:28 warning us about hell, some say "there is no hell."

Despite 1 Timothy 2:12 saying women shouldn't teach, some say they "should."

Despite Leviticus 20:13 saying homosexuality is a sin, some say it's "not" a sin.

Despite John 15:10 saying to obey, some say it's ok to "not" obey.

Despite John 1:1 saying Jesus (the Word) is God, some say Jesus is "not" God.

Despite 1 John 5:7 saying 3 are one, some say the 3 are "not" one.

The rationalizing pattern seems to be: "No, the Bible doesn't say [what it actually says], but says [something I'm more comfortable with]". This format seems awfully similar to Genesis 3:4 where satan says "Ye shall NOT surely die." Satan is called the father of lies for a reason and some Christians assume they are immune to it.

Rationalizing the world's morals over God's morals seems to require ignoring scripture. Does anyone agree?

So, should we follow God's Word or man's word (which might be satan's word)?

God bless...

Hi Glen, Let's say that a human race was created before Adam and Eve, then these people could have lived in Nod. When Cain went there and took a wife (from them) then he mixed the seed of promise ( Genesis 3:16) with that which was not of the promise. (Like Ishmael and Esau did later). God may have done this as you said. He would have known that these humans and Cain's descendants would not survive the flood and that Noah and is family were of the seed of promise, the line of Seth.

Either way, when the flood came, all of the humans, whether from Seth's line or Cain and the other people's line died, except for Noah and his family. So after the flood, The seed line of the promise was the only line to repopulate the earth.

Abraham The revealed word and will of God concerning creation and mans and from Genesis 3:15 to revelation 22:21 the bringing to pass of his only begotten Son our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It is the only book with all truth on mans redemption and what man needs to be complete body soul and spirit to Walk with God. Luke 4:4 man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

It is the only book that gives the truth about heaven, the world to come and the spiritual battle that is Going on between God and the devil or Satan. It is the only book that gives the truth on the supernatural the spiritual

operation of God and satan. It is the only book that when you confess with your mouth and believe in your heart Romans 10:9+10 that you receive the spirit of God and get Born again. It Is Perfect and no other book in the world can make that claim, it is written by men that were told what to write by the Spirit of God 2 peter 1:20+21. It is perfect scientifically

laws of physics mathematically all of creation is answered and penned by Gods Hand. If you choose to believe you can't really live without it!