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Genesis 3:20. And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the ""MOTHER OF ALL LIVING.""

It's apparent Cain wife was either his sister or niece.

God told Adam and Eve to be fruitful and MULTIPLY.

Which seems to imply the world wasn't multiplied.

Adam and Eve probably had a thousand kids Men and Women..

Genesis 4:16-17. And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden.

And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

The scripture doesn't say Cain took a wife "from" Nod. It says he went out from the presence of the Lord and dwelt in the land of Nod, Adam and Eve could have been 100's of years old and their children children had kids, Perhaps he may have been married before he slew Abel and he brought over a wife to Nod.

I can go on and on!

You see we can speculate and go on and on about what we don't know but that don't change what we do know.

And that's Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the ""MOTHER OF ALL LIVING.""

God bless.

God will work against those that don't honor him.



love your weaknesses like Paul. if Satan is telling you of your lack then you know he is covering up the greater thing that you posses so you'll lose it.

godliness with contentment is great gain.

bow your heart to your king.

Hi Walt.

Yes, no reason to believe otherwise.

Genesis 3:20 (KJV) And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of "" ALL living.""

Love you Jesus

Rebecca, the fast that the Lord wants is found in Isaiah 58

Isaiah 58th chapter is a great commentary by God on fasting.

Genesis 3:13

"And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

1 Peter 2:22

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King James Bible

Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth

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Jesus saw Nathanael coming to him, and saith of him, Behold an Israelite indeed, in whom is no guile!

My comments addressed all the godless humanist "ISM's - among which, ZIONISM, 1896, and NOT the book of Genesis, which is also God's living Word prophesying the coming of Christ Jesus Messiah Lord God Savior Redeemer in GENESIS 3:15, KJV, where Christ is referred to as THE SEED OF WOMAN, and not as "descendant" or "offspring" that begs focus and concentration on carnal biological genealogical flesh lineage that contradicts God's Word in the Book of John that we are BORN OF GOD and that THE FLESH IS OF NO AVAIL ( JOHN 1: 1-18; JOHN 3:16; JOHN 6:63; JOHN 17:3; HEBREWS 8:13; HEBREWS 13:8; REVELATION 1:7; REVELATION 20, 21, 22, KJV 1611, HOLY BIBLE). ***

The Scriptures about the Godhead. Sometimes called "Let Us..." in some passages. These scriptures are evidence of all 3 persons of the Godhead speaking to each other.

Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7

Isaiah 6:8

Romans 1:20

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:27-30

1 John 5:7

John 10:30

Mishael

Hi Victor! You are blessed. You have discovered the first of many Godhead scriptures in the Bible.

This is proof of the 3 persons consulting with each other, concerning mankind.

The Father purposes

The Word (Jesus) speaks. ( John 1:1)

The Spirit (Holy Spirit) executes the spoken word. Action.

Together, they created everything that we see, know, feel, and are still discovering every day. Through Jesus's cross, we can speak/pray/praise them with the words of our mouth, the meditations of our hearts, and our souls; which came from God. That in scripture He says ALL souls belong to me.

For me personally, there is no better feeling or knowing, that I belong to God. He is mine and I am His. (Song of Solomon). All we must do is to possess that love with all of our strength. If strength is weakened by daily sin, we have only to call upon God for cleansing, rescue and restoration; salvation. If God is for us, who can be against us?

Talking to Him is the greatest pleasure I have ever known! With the finished work of the Cross of Christ: I can walk with God as Adam once did in the garden.

Satan's lies no longer have POWER to distract and destroy our relationship with God. If sin occurs, we have only to confess it and turn away from it. Gods strength is made perfect in our weakness.

Doubts that God doesn't love or forgive us, are mind bombs from the Devil and his workers of iniquity. Resist it and run straight to the Cross.

In the Center of creation and Revelation, is the power and victory of the Cross of Jesus: savior and Messiah.

The Sting of Death cannot touch us anymore. Absent from the body; present with our Lord. In Christ, there is no fear. We step outside of Time, and step into Eternity; in a second.

Today if we hear Him knocking on the door of our heart: answer the door! Invite Him inside.

Don't be afraid of the one Person on this planet who loves and accepts you, as is. His blood sacrifice was enough to cleanse.

M.

GENESIS 3:22 the man is become as one of us

how to understand "one" here? thanks.

One of Jesus's names is the tree of life.

Eden was protected by an Angel after Adam and Eve were driven out of it.

If they had eaten of the Tree of Life, they would have lived eternally in their fallen state.

Search the Book of Revelation. The Tree of Life was moved from earth to Heaven.

GENESIS 3:22

And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

REVELATION 22:2

In the midst of the street of it (heaven)and on either side of the river, was there the tree of life, which bare twelve manner of fruits, and yielded her fruit every month: and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

GENESIS 3:24

So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

REVELATION 2:7

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the TREE OF LIFE, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

Mishael

Pa Ba,

There are two pieces of scripture that cover this. First of all, in 1 Corinthians 14:34, it says let your women keep silence in the churches: The word woman in scripture is also the word for wife, which meets the criteria for here.

Let your women, or wives, keep silence in the churches:

What does this mean? Well, in the early church, they had the men on one side and the women on the other. Men could not be with women, and women could not be with men. So somebody is up there teaching, and somebody's wife is over on the other side of the room going "Hey Fred, do you agree with that? What do you think?" And they are talking across the room.

She's not permitted to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. That's back in Genesis 3:16 under the woman. Remember after they sinned, God said I will greatly multiply your sorrow and your conception. In sorrow you shall bring forth children and your desire shall be to your husband, and he shall rule over thee.

So to solve this problem in the church, Paul says in 1 Corinthians 14:35 "And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." It's not that they can't speak at all. It's just that they were being disruptive.

The second piece of scripture in 1 Timothy 2:12 says, "But I suffer not, that is I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man. So we've got two things here: I do not allow a woman to teach. There's one. It doesn't say anything about men. Nor, to usurp authority over the man, which is why they shouldn't teach.

The term usurp authority over the man, to usurp authority is the word authenticate. And it means that the woman is not to take the authenticity of man, what the male was created to do.

two questions:

1. Genesis 3:3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden,

does this mean tree of life and tree of the knowledge of good and evil are the same?

2. Genesis 3:5 and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

how to understand "gods" here?

Genesis 3:22 LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us.

which ONE?

First I will post about someone saying "God doesn't have hands". We all Know God is Spirit. For someone to say He doesn't have hands is absurd. God can have, and be, anything He wants. Here is some Scriptures to consider for the one who stated this:

In Genesis 3:8 the Lord was "walking" in the garden of Eden. In Exodus 33:20 He said no man shall see my "face" and live. Exudus 33:23 speaks of His "hand" and "back parts". The vision of Daniel 7:9 seeing the Ancient of Days(God) "sitting" on His throne wearing a "garment" and having "hair". Many other details in Revelation of one who "sat" upon the throne.

Did God not make us in His image?

Just because we in this physical body cannot see the spirit realm, unless God chooses to send someone a revelation or vision etc, does not mean it is not there.

God Bless.

So when Eve is told Adam will rule over her - is it like A L Harrison wrote - as Christ ruled and rules over churches?

If so how does that translate to marriage? Like Adam makes sure Eve keeps the sanctity of marriage and doesn't fall prey to dodgy things of this world?

How does one interpret this?

Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.

Genesis 18:27 And Abraham answered and said, Behold now, I have taken upon me to speak unto the Lord, which am but dust and ashes:

Job 4:19 How much less in them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation is in the dust, which are crushed before the moth?

Psalms 103:14, Psalms 104:29 , -- Ecclesiastes 3:20 All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.

Ecclesiastes 12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

We haven't cremated any of our family, no plans to. But I wouldn't think it makes a difference.

Adam,

I agree with most of what you say. "Shall we continues to sin that grace may abound? God forbid!" And, yes. Progressives want to cherry pick, redefine reality and justify sinful behavior.

Remember, though, that although written by some 40 different authors across 1500 years, there is ONE timeless Author. The Bible CANNOT support opposing views as being true. The writer of Hebrews was addressing Hebrew believers who were being tempted to return to the old sacrificial system. He was arguing that Jesus was better than angels, better hope, better covenant, better promises, better sacrifice.

In Hebrews 6:4, he is warning about Jewish people going back to the old system. There is no sacrifice for sin there. Jesus' sacrifice is better. The ones that did leave and go back were never really saved to begin with. That's why he says in vs 9, although I'm talking like this, in your case I'm confident of better things about your salvation. Gotta read the whole passage.

In Hebrews 10:26, he's again saying that in the old sacrifice systems, "there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins." The Law was an instrument of judgement and death. There's no hope in The Law! Our only hope is in Jesus Christ!

Anyhow, I think that we are in agreement about much more than you think.

Thank you for correcting me Adam. God Bless you.

2 Corinthians 5:10

For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. Just letting you know it does. (This is for the comment that the Bible don't say Christians have to be judged). (KJV)

Selective focus and cherrypicking seems to be the common root of the argument for once saved always saved. Otherwise, scripture clearly refutes that through so many scriptures, like Hebrews 10:26, Hebrews 6:4, etc. And the next layer of selective focus is ignoring obedience to Jesus, but putting more focus on it being bad to do good 'works' and be 'legalistic' as if that's sin to be obey God. That twisted idea sounds awfully familiar as if it doesn't come from God, but the opposite of God. The father of lies absolutely loves twisting things- that it's 'bad' to do good. Does Jesus say it's 'bad' to obey Him? John 14:15.

So, who will I listen to? Man, satan, or Jesus? Easy decision for me. It's good to do good, despite what 'progressive' Christian culture may claim. Doing good doesn't mean you're trying to 'earn' your way into heaven, as some claim. And some falsely assume you don't believe in grace either if you believe doing good is good. I hope people don't try to slander Christians who try to obey Jesus. If Jesus was alive today, some would probably accuse Him of being legalistic and works based too. The works vs grace is already explained in the Bible, James 2, Romans 11, etc. People end up being disproportionate emphasis on one or the other, but the Bible already predicted this difficulty which is why they wrote so much about it in the Bible to explain. Pray for God for wisdom and understanding and read the Bible not to confirm what you want to believe, or what you were already taught by men, but to understand what God's Word actually says. God bless.

Yes, it does. Read 2 Corinthians 5:10.

This week's Bible study is Genesis 37 & 38.

Genesis 37 is Joseph's dreams and Joseph sold into slavery.

Genesis 38 is Judah and Tamar.

It's strange that the Joseph story gets interrupted by this sordid incident in Judah's family.

It's significant that Tamar is one of the few women referenced in genealogies and these are the in the lineages of David, King of Israel and Jesus, The Messiah. Other women in these genealogies are Rahab, the Canaanite harlot, Ruth the Moabite and Bathsheba, the wife of Uriah, the Hittite.

It's amazing that Moses recorded this about 400 years before David and 1400 years before Jesus. Chuck Missler of Koinonia House points out that the names of Boaz, Ruth, Obed, Jesse and David appear in order in the characters of the Hebrew text at 49 (7*7) letter intervals in chapter 38.

The specific incident was that Judah fathered twin boys by his daughter-in-law. So Pharez would be considered to be illegitimate.

"A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:"Deu 23:2-3

Turns out, according to Ruth 4:18-22, that David was the tenth generation from Pharez. Yet "I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine own heart, which shall fulfil all my will," ( Act 13:22) despite the edicts of The Law.

"He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end." Ecc 3:11

"I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him." Ecc 3:14

I welcome your insights and comments.

In my own experience the Holy Spirit helps us not to sin. I may have a sinful thought at times but I have rebuked myself and that thought goes no further. Thus stopping me from putting my thought into action. This is the Holy Spirit guiding me away from sin.

The Bible does not say that we will all be Judged. Jesus has saved us from the wrath of God. Now there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ.

Hello Skip, I am happy that the Lord in His righteousness continues to cover my sin, even today. I am glad that I still have the opportunity to look by faith and be led by His Holy Spirit. However, I remain in the flesh and my flesh remains in this life, in time. Eternity is at the end of the race for my body, though my soul now has entered into his rest by faith. But more rest is to come for a changed body into immortality to match the peace of my soul in eternity.

These verses speak to me related to our discussion.

2 Peter 3:10

1 Timothy 5:24

Romans 4:25

We will always sin, saved and unsaved, till the day we die. The difference between a saved person who sins and a unsaved person who sins is, the saved ones are always uncomfortable living in sin and constantly warring in the flesh against his sins. Like Paul said," the things I don't want to do I do, and the things I do want to do I don't,"(paraphrase).

We all can relate and agree that's what makes the Christian life hard. The unsaved on the other hand, is very comfortable in sins and actually looks forward to doing more. Look what anointed King David did with Bathsheba; adultery and murdered her husband. God bless you

Hello, maybe you've already made up your mind on this which is different than how some others interpret it. The verses you quoted before don't indicate anything different and support my interpretation. Scripture like 1 Peter chapter 1 are clear to me and countless other verses instruct Christians to not sin.

"They are not able to live according to their old nature."

Some believe that for Christians it's impossible to sin, which I think is a misinterpretation of the Bible that plays into the hand of the enemy. There are Christians who sometimes look at pornography- so does that mean that's not a sin, or some cheat on their wives- not sin? Some have probably even killed- not sin? Seems like a tough argument to make to claim that sin isn't sin. Or that Christians no longer have freewill to sin? We all likely know Christians who have drifted from the faith and have sinned or even denounced the faith.

Not sure if you believe this, but I think the belief of "impossible for Christians to sin" originates from 1 John in 1 John 3:9 and 1 John 5:18, but if you read the context it doesn't say what some are assuming it says. The keywords are who is born of God don't 'practice' sin. Genuine followers won't continue to sin on an ongoing basis.

If you read the whole book of 1 John it explains and shows the context, like right out of the gate in 1 John 1:8-10. So, which is it, can a Christian sin or not?

In chapter 3, it clarifies that its only those who follow commandments. So, an action is required for Christians. It's not like you already won and can disobey and do whatever sin you want. ( 1 John 3:23-24) says that to dwell in Jesus the Christian must obey. If it was a given (automatic) then Jesus wouldn't have kept telling his followers (Christians) to avoid sin. He absolutely pounded this message in them. A true follower should not sin, they should hate it and avoid it at all costs. Matthew 5:30, John 14:15. God bless.

Carleton,

The fact is that believers sin every day, maybe even every moment of every day.

"This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us." 1Jn 1:5-10

In this instruction, John uses WE/US throughout: WE believers.

If WE walk IN THE LIGHT, the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth US from all sin. IN THE LIGHT, I believe, refers to the knowledge that has been given to us by The Word of God enlightened by The Holy Spirit.

If WE say that we have NO SIN, we are self deceived and are NOT walking IN THE LIGHT. Then if WE confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive US our sins, and to cleanse US from all unrighteousness.

But WE haven't lost the WE/US relationship to God. We still HAVE ETERNAL LIFE.

How can you HAVE eternal life and then NOT. That's not eternal. That's CONDITIONAL eternal life, if you can keep it.

"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand."Joh 10:27-29

Are you His sheep or not? Today but not tomorrow?

Can YOU remove yourself from God's Hands?

Jesus said, "MY sheep." How can a regenerate mortal remove him or her self from Jesus' Fold: MY sheep!