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Sister Glenda, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Age is in YOUR favour; because, you can look back at more experiences of LIFE, than your daughter.

The SPIRIT has CAUSED you (through the CHOICES he CAUSED you to make) to have those experiences of LIFE (good and evil) because it is necessary to become like God. ( Genesis 3:22)

God KNOWS how to USE EVIL for GOOD.

God CAUSED Joseph to have a silly little dream and to tell his brothers about that dream.

God CAUSED his brothers to be envious and hate Joseph.

God CAUSED his brothers to rise up and do EVIL against their brother Joseph.

But look what THE WORD SAYS:

Genesis 50:19 And Joseph said unto them, Fear not, for I am in the place of God (where God purposed him to be).

Genesis 50:20 But as FOR YOU, you thought EVIL against me, but God meant (caused) it (evil) unto GOOD, to bring to pass, as it is this day, TO SAVE MUCH PEOPLE ALIVE.

God is STILL DOING this TODAY; Man just does't BELIEVE IT.

Did Judas have a Choice outside of what God had purposed him TO DO.( Zechariah 11:12)

Did Peter have a Choice outside of what God had purposed him TO DO (deny Jesus and flee)( Zechariah 13:7).

Did Pharaoh have a Choice outside of what God had purposed Him TO DO ( Romans 9:17).

Did David have a Choice outside of what God purposed him TO DO.

2 Samuel 24:1 And AGAIN the anger of the Lord was kindled against Israel, and he MOVED (CAUSED) David against them, to say, Go, number Israel and Judah.

God PURPOSED that you are going to become the IMAGE of HIM ( Romans 8:29)( 1 Corinthians 15:49), Do you think you have a CHOICE outside of what he has purpose you TO DO.

Ezekiel 36:27 And I will put my Spirit in you, and CAUSE you to walk in my statues (good or evil), and you shall keep my judgements, and DO THEM.

God's WAY is not man's WAY.

You are replying to a comment by "Terry"

Hello Terry,

Eve explained to Satan the serpent

that God told her you shall not eat.

Genesis 3:1,3

Hope this helps

According to Genesis 3:22-24, I would say that God spoke to neither of them about not eating from the Tree of Life. Because they disobeyed God by eating from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil, God drove them out of Eden & set guards against the Tree of Life.

Daniel 7:9 says "thrones were cast down" , if we were to consider this meaning, seats were set up. Seats for both Old and New Testament believers whom overcame forces of evil, kingdoms of the world, and understood and were kept spiritually safe in the church in the wilderness. True authority has one Throne and only one seated at the Throne. Lightenings and thunderings are the powers of God. How close can saved men be to this Throne, the Throne of Righteousness? As close as the New Covenant the rainbow. This rainbow is the hope and peace between God and saved men.The sea of glass is ahead of the Throne. The redeemed could stand on this sea of glass because their sins were now transparent. The light of God could pass through them completely because of the one seated at the Throne. The twenty-four elders fall down to worship him that sat on the throne. Living representations (beasts) of all of creation witness with the elders to the Truth upon the Throne as their creator too in their continued and everlasting worship saying, "Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come". The connection to the Cherubims of Genesis 3:24 which were living creatures to Ezekiel 10:20 "This is the living creature that I saw under the God of Israel by the river Chebar; and I knew that they were the cherubims." This chapter of Ezekiel helps to understand chapter 1 of Ezekiel where the beasts had the likeness of man, where man was the crown of God's creation in Christ Jesus.

My meditation would lean towards that these Cherubims are the beasts and are at the four corners of the earth as borders to keep men ,because God so loved the world, on the straight and narrow way towards Salvation by the One on the Throne of God, Jesus Christ.

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Satan was a created archangel. When he was ejected from Heaven (with 1/3 angels; turned demons)

They have no bodies. They have to borrow bodies to do their evil. Evil humans give their bodies to do evil. Demons can borrow animal,reptile, etc.

Satan didn't have Dominion or Authority to do anything to born again Christians; but the Christians must be taught what they have in Christ. Ephesians 6

Look at Hollywood! Way more movies on occult, sci-fi, and humans hurting humans. Very very few scriptural Bible films.

Humans were given Dominion in Genesis by God.

Only Bible readers would know that. Jesus defeated Satan by being crucified and then Resurrected. Christians have the same AUTHORITY to defeat Satan's strategies against us. It's done in prayer on our knees.

Most people just want to come home and watch tv or play online games.

Bad things happen to good people/Christians because we don't want to do the hard stuff that produces salvations, healings, deliverance from Satan's attacks. We don't need to be blaming God for our inability to follow the example of Jesus.

What would happen if we walked out on the back porch and yelled out loud: in Jesus Name, by His power and Authority, I take Dominion over every demonic strategy to hurt me and my family and loved ones. I bind your evil plans and cast you OUT OF THIS HOUSE

OUT OF MY FAMILY

OUT OF MY WORK PLACE

OUT OF MY CITY

OUT OF MY GOVERNMENT

GO NOW INTO OUTER DARKNESS TO WANDER. DO NOT RETURN

IN THE NAME OF JESUS. AMEN

I ask the Lord, to release warring angels to enforce and protect this prayer; minister to and guard those this prayer covers. Cover me and favor my family, Lord Jesus,

I give you thanksgiving, my praise to you, worship and honor. Impart to me discernment so I may stand in the watchtower and be vigilant against Satan's attacks. I rebuke the Spirit of Slumber! Holy Spirit teach me how I should pray for all my concerns. I receive it, in the Name of Jesus. AMEN! HALLELUJAH

Brother Sonny, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.

Most people are taught by the traditions of man, very few study themselves and let the Spirit reveal the truth to them.

Romans 8:20 For the CREATURE (CREATION) was made SUBJECT TO VANITY (evil), not WILLINGLY, but by REASON of him who hath SUBJECTED the same (creation) in HOPE. (Becoming ONE with their CREATOR).

Ponder on the tree of KNOWLEDGE of good and evil.

That knowledge exist TOGETHER, you can't have the KNOWLEDGE of good without also having the KNOWLEDGE of evil.

After partaking of this KNOWLEDGE of good and evil, God said, behold they (creation) have become like one of us to KNOW good and evil.

This KNOWLEDGE is necessary to become LIKE GOD.

John 17:21 That they (creation) ALL may BE ONE; as thou Father, art ONE IN ME, and I IN THEE, that thou also may be ONE IN US: that the world MAY BELIEVE that thou has SENT ME.

Colossians 1:27 ... this mystery....CHRIST IN YOU.....

Revelation 4:5 And out of the throne (you are the throne of CHRIST)( Revelation 20:4) proceeded lighting, and thunder and voices: BURNING ( Isaiah 4:4) before the throne (you are the throne of CHRIST)( Revelation 20:4), which (lighting, thunder, voices) ARE the SEVEN Spirits of God (now in you).

Isaiah 11:2 And the (first is the) SPIRIT of the LORD (Father) shall rest upon him (Christ (in you)), the (second) spirit of WISDOM, and (the third spirit of) UNDERSTANDING, the (forth) spirit of COUNSEL and (the fifth spirit of) MIGHT, the (sixth) spirit of KNOWLEDGE and (the seventh spirit) of the FEAR of the Lord.

When we no longer have to SUFFER IN THE FLESH we will BE ONE WITH THE FATHER AND SON.

I still do not understand, if creation was do perfect and the world newly created and all was godly, just where exactly did evil come from?

Since it was newly created and there was no other place mentioned again so seems like there was an error in some form, and then from the research I've done, a serpent was also referred to as an elder, and in more research there's a discussion of other forms of life, which other religions such as in India.

The serpent races are recorded thru history as are the ocean going mermen and merwomen which a race was discovered by Jaque Cousteau son a few years back on digital camera actually coming up and peering in the the underwater sub as well as three remains found in California on the beach.

I believe whatever exists living is created by God. If there are aliens it's just something else created by God.

When it comes to creation there's alot of gaps in time, books added, books removed, politics.

Example, Romans crucified Christ, the Sadducees and Pharisees were the ruling religious political parties of the times, I'd suggest they wanted Christ out of the way more then the Romans.

Genesis 3:19 In the sweat of thy (Your) face shalt (should) thou eat bread, till thou (You) return unto (to) the ground; for out of it wast (was) thou taken (taken): for dust thou (you) art (be or are), and unto (to) dust shalt thou return. (Dust you should/shall Return)

So the Dead returns to Dust. But again Jesus will judge the Dead. And resurrect the Dead. Back to their original human self. Back here on earth. John 5:28,29; 2 Peter 3:13; Revelation 21:3-5

Hope this helps

@Grace- You said:

"Musta been, since we 'know' "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living." ( Genesis 3:20"

The big question everyone asks is: who did Cain marry? Many people assume that there were only the 3 of them (Adam, Eve & Cain) on the entire planet.

(This is after Cain killed Abel and God punishes him:)

13And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.

14Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.

15And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.

16And Cain went OUT from the presence of the LORD, and DWELT IN THE LAND OF NOD, on the east of Eden.

17And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.

My question is:

".....that every one that findeth me shall slay me." WHO IS EVERY ONE???

".....Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain....." WHO IS WHOSOEVER????

'.....And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived..." Where did he get his wife from, if there were only the 3 of them (Adam, Eve & Cain) on the entire planet?????? Did his mother become his wife??

Cain married one on of the descendants of the 6th-day-created people.

To David and Adam from Dgjot:

I wasn't the one that said "The Bible seems to contradict itself sometimes......"

I was replying to Donna Pittman.

Keep in mind that in the Bible, things aren't always as cut and dried as they seem.

(eg. Jesus talked in parables and then had to explain to his disciples what they meant.)

For over 2000 years, godly men have studied, studied, studied the scriptures. They wrote books & commentaries and explained things we wouldn't have noticed or understood. Right? I'm no Bible scholar but I've read some of those books/commentaries or listened to Bible teachers. In the Bible, things aren't always as cut and dried as they seem.

(Like in Revelation 12:3 where it talks about, "a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads." C'mon man. It's not an actual dragon. It's symbolic of a political system, or something.)

Regarding Eve: Genesis 3:13 "And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

Beguiled = wholly seduced. There's a good chance Eve was already pregnant with Cain when "Adam knew her".

More than likely, Cain was the offspring of Satan and Eve. By murdering his brother Abel, he did HIS FATHER'S bidding.

Abel was the offspring of Adam and Eve, as was Seth. Abel was murdered and God replaced him with Seth.

Genesis 3:20 "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living."

That doesn't necessarily mean that everyone "living" came strictly from Adam and Eve. Since all the great men of the bible came from Seth's bloodline, including Jesus- "all living" could mean "Spiritually" living. As opposed to the Spiritually dead like Cain.

I know this all sounds insane but there's a chance there might be a grain of truth in it.

dgjot: "The world wasn't populated by just two people. God created all the races on the 6th day...I don't understand why people disregard this and think Adam and Eve were the only two people on the planet."

Musta been, since we 'know' "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living." ( Genesis 3:20) Amen?

Robin reed Robin I apologize in my comment After Ecclesiastes verses should be and in Genesis 3:19 from dust thous art and from dust thou shalt return. Helps to closely proofread. In His Service

IMKane The Gospel or the good news consist of Everything God has done in his word to bring to pass the birth the ministry the sacrifice and resurrection of Jesus christ so that fallen man could be redeemed and God would have the family He always wanted from the Beginning in Genesis. Jesus Christ is the main subject matter from Genesis 3:15 to Revelation 22:21. In His Service

I would suggest that you start in the new testament, starting with the four gospels, as this is the ministry of Jesus, and the salvation of the cross, as Jesus says in Matthew 5:17 "Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil". in other words fulfilling of the old testament and its laws and prophecy, and starting from the book of Acts to up to Revelations is the spreading of his gospel, But wherever you decide to start may God bless you on that journey.

any place is a great place to start reading God's word

Michael may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS truth and His understanding.

Genesis 2:8 ..... the tree of THE KNOWLEDGE of good and evil

The fruit would have to be; knowledge of good and evil.

Genesis 3:21 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man has become like one of us (gods), to know good and evil .....

Since we will eventually be the FULLNESS of Christ (gods) ( Ephesians 4:13), it was necessary that man eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

Larry Who or what was the serpent in eden, that is a description of operation of our adversary the devil. Here are some other scripture references, Revelation 12:9 notice called the devil, satan that old serpent also 1 Peter 5: Be sober be vigilant for your adversary the devil as a roaring lion walketh about seeking whom he may devour notice in two verses we have 5 different descriptions devil satan serpent adversary roaring lion, these are different descriptions in Gods Word of His methods of operation and there's more. So your question is not a cut and dry answer.

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:" Was the serpent crawling on it's belly prior to being cursed? Did God create the serpent? Was the Serpent in a different form? Was the serpent deceived by Satan? Was Cain also deceived or over comed by Satan's power to be also known as the evil seed?

Larry Sin is broken fellowship with God I.E. going against His Word, the word serpent in genesis is figurative language for the slyness by which Eve was deceived, the two who first broke Gods word were Adam and Eve there actions went against the only thing God told them not to do. The consequences of their actions man has paid for ever since but was paid for by Jesus Christ.

Larry Jacobs , hi , sin is disobedience to a command from God , some thing is not a sin until God says : don't do this , and then you do it , that is sin . Where there is law there is disobedience , where there are no laws there aren't any sins . We only know for sure what has been written and preserved for our benefit , other than that we may speculate but that's all .

The bible states that Adam is Cain's father my question was concerning other sins before Cain Slew Abel. Did the serpent have another form before he was cursed? Was the eating the forbidden fruit and Adam being deceitful toward the initial sins or were there other sins' committed by man prior to Cain slaying Abel?

Ted.

Satan is the prince of this world and The world also hate Jesus.

Here's why the world hated Jesus.

This persecution Started in Genesis and on through us today. Genesis 3:15.

John 7:7. The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, BECAUSE I TESTIFY OF IT, THAT THE WORKS THEREOF ARE EVIL

And the world presently hates Jesus disciples as well as any people who has a role in God's redemption program.

The Lord called out Abraham and blessed him and Made an unconditional covenant with him. And he would be the Father of many nations Genesis 17:4-13.

Galatians 4:28. Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.

Galatians 3:28-29. There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

God is not done with Israel as some think,

And the Church did not replace Israel.

They play a role in the future.

Acts 15:14-16. Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.

And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,

( AFTER THIS I WILL RETURN, AND WILL BUILD AGAIN THE TABERNACLE OF DAVID, )

which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:

This is a spiritual warfare!!

That's the short of it. Perhaps someone can go into more detail.

God bless.

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I started from Genesis. Take your time. I make annotations and sometimes I have to go back to make sure I understand. I think that will help you understand why other things happened later on the Bible.

Since Jesus is our Savior, it makes sense to read the 4 Gospels: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John.

To learn who Jesus is, and every moment of his life on earth.

You might want to pause and consider Matthew24 and Luke 21, Because these are the passages Jesus speaks of the End Times.

This website has a link: Become a Christian with some reading suggestions on it that you might want to view also.

I want to start reading the holy Bible but idk if I should start to read the new testament or the old.

Larry Jacobs Gen. 3 There are those that believe that Eve had sex with the serpent, that's not possible because of physical law spirit cannot have sex with five senses flesh. That being said cain committed the first murder the shedding of innocent blood, then look at the punishment Gen. 3:11-16 cain became cursed from the earth and when you tillest the ground it will not yield its strength, he became a vagabond or wanderer no place to hide. Just as we are born again of Gods seed holy spirit, cain was the first man spiritually born of seed of the serpent spiritually totally corrupt. In the bible they are known as men of belial, the word belial means worthless reckless lawless wicked men, men of the earth and many other names, In the gospel of John 8:44 Jesus Christ went up against these men verse 43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot here my word. Next verse Ye are of your father the devil and the lust of your father ye will do, it is not flesh and blood it is spiritual which is why they will die in there sin it is seed. Remember Ephesians 6:12 this is a spiritual battle not senses. I've met Christians that got born again who were satan worshppers but that doesn't mean they were born of the devil.

Was Cain slaying Abel the second sin of man and for this reason was Cain known as the evil seed.

( Revelation 7:14-15) The first resurrection:

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

( Revelation 21:3-7) The second resurrection:

1 And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away; and there was no more sea.

2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of Godiswith men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them,and betheir God.

4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.

5 And he that sat upon the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he said unto me, Write: for these words are true and faithful.

6 And he said unto me, It is done. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely.

7 He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.

"One of Us" comes full circle:

Genesis1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness...

Genesis 3:22And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us...

Genesis 3:14 View whole chapter

And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Genesis 3:15

And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between (Satan) thy SEED and her seed (Jesus), it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Comment: Jesus crushed Satan's head on the Cross. This prophesy was fulfilled. Jesus took the keys of Death, Hell and the Grave. Jesus destroyed Satan's power and authority over the Children of God. (Us). Jesus gave us authority to use His Name and Authority.

If he's trying to make someone sick unto death, the Christian has the authority of Jesus Name to enforce the devil's lack of authority. He has no authority to take someone's life, who has a believer standing upon the authority of Jesus: to stop that attack.

It's like a situation of a baby's parent standing between their tender innocence and a frothing pit bull type of dog. you're gonna fight back with all your might and shield the innocent, the sick, those weakened with disease.

Spiritual warfare is just as bitter as real warfare.

Being a Christian is NOT PASSIVE. Got your armor on, the Words of Jesus in your mouth___the mongrel loses.

Dear Vera,

It is most certainly God's will that you and all of us work if we are physically and mentally able. He even put Adam to work in the Garden of Eden Genesis 2:15 - "And the LORD God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it." And when Adam and Eve sinned, God put Adam to work as a farmer as is evident in Genesis 3:17-19 "And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return." And so man began to work, and God has intended all of us to work. 2 Thessalonians 3:10 "For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat."

The point is, in that He wants you to work, he will help you find a job, but you must get out there and hunt for one.

God bless.